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    Quote Originally Posted by bangtango View Post
    What were they using for a Zelda II Level 5 boss over in Japan then?

    And what sort of EXP point system did they have?

    in the japanese version you fight a weaker version of jenefencer (helmethead) in level 2 who only has one helmet that flies around, in the japanese version you fight the two helmeted version in level 5.

    also in the japanese version you fight mazaru (horsehead) again next to the ilusionary wall instead of the blue ironknuckles.

    they also redrew barba in level 6 so he's not quite so retarded looking.


    in the japanese version you can choose what skill you level up in every time you gain enough exp (ie ou can spend your first 8 love costing levels all on attack if you want) the game will only save your levels if you are balanced (ie 2 2 2 in each level) if you were 2 1 3 when you die/save you go back to 1, alternatively if you have 5 5 6 when you save you go back to 5 5 5. max level is also easier to get to as max exp is only 4k insted of 9k

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    with all the zelda 2 talk I just decided to play straight through zelda 2, I never really had a problem with death mountain, but I remeber wasting so many lives in the last walk to the final palace.


    well this time i beat the entire game with only dying once in level 4 (because I was too lazy to go back and get magic to go fight carrock)


    still an amazing game to play, and it really is an improvment over the japanese original other than the poor late game leveling up.

    next goal to beat it without dying once

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    I'll love to see another Link style game as maybe a Wii ware download or 3DS title. I just revisited the game in a review and I still loved it:
    http://youtu.be/zEPVe5nhe08

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    To me, it's a very misunderstood game. Most people who play Zelda I've noticed get the mindset that it's a game they can sort of speed through and jump from dungeon to dungeon, but this isn't that kind of game at all. It's a side-scrolling RPG that requires patience, grinding and lots of trial and error, sort of like Faxanadu. I can appreciate this kind of game and, while I admit I didn't catch onto the concept for a long time, once I did, I fell in love with Zelda II. It's easily up there as one of my favorite Zelda games and favorite games of all time.
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    I just got it through the 3DS Ambassador program. Can't wait to play through again, though I wish the controls were configurable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by heybtbm View Post
    So after 100+ posts, we've determined that the question posed ended up being bogus. An overwhelming contingent of DP'ers don't "hate" Zelda II and most of them actually like it.
    Heck, some like me think it's one of their most favorite video games ever. That's a little more than like it.

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    It does take a beating outside of DP though. But I see at least as many supporters as well.

    I wonder what the Japanese consensus is on Link No Bouken. Did they ever get the updated version we got?

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    I should revise my earlier comments and just take the following position concerning Zelda II haters.

    People who don't like Zelda II hate it because Thunderbird or the Death Mountain monsters "sonned" some people who ain't very good at NES games and became these people's daddy.

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    The thing that urks me about the criticisms I always hear about Zelda II is the dwelling on its perceived flaws rather than just looking at the game for what it is and does well.

    Its like you don't hear people complain about the fact that you can't walk diagonally in Zelda 1 or that the combat is generally pretty easy and simple. Those could be considered flaws, but there is no reason to point that out because it really is just how they made the game and it works well so why bother.

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