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    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bang-B...29060620484009

    Posted July 2nd, 2011 on their facebook page:

    "Bang Bang Busters Neo Geo Game Aes
    Pre-order for Treasure of Caribbean July 20th
    Limited Edition of 100 pieces,Japanese only.
    Price: 350 euros.Priority to the buyer of Bang Bang Busters from July 15th.
    Neogeo CD version is confirmed (english and japanese) for December.
    Thanks to everyone."

    then on July 23rd, 2011

    "Treasure of Caribbean AES sold out,thank you very much."

    In just 8 days, better than half of those already sold to buyers of BBBusters. This is the reason NGDEV decided to make AES version from scratch. The home cart market is a mystery to most, despite the outdated technology, people keep buying games even if it's only halfway decent.


    p.s.


    I'm not sure if Golden Shop still has it

    http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad...reasureofc.htm

    It's worth a try.

    Lame that it's sold out but thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesystick View Post
    Speaking of, my question is, how is this not Super Turrican 2 for the SNES? It actually looks like they peeled the game engine from that very game. The enemies look the same, the physics looks the same, the 360 degree laser, and the rolling dodge all look the same. The only thing that looks different is the level design. Am I out of my mind, or did they borrow the game engine from this game?

    Look for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EvIIdLWLYY

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    Exactly, they ripped off EVERYTHING, even the physics, it's ridiculous! Instead of making their own original gameplay style they chose to copy this?

    And yes, I AM DISSING TURRICAN. The movement and jump physics are atrocious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
    Are you dissing Turrican?
    I know, right!?

    At least they copied a good game, unlike the trend of major developers who xerox crap year after year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesystick View Post
    Speaking of, my question is, how is this not Super Turrican 2 for the SNES? It actually looks like they peeled the game engine from that very game. The enemies look the same, the physics looks the same, the 360 degree laser, and the rolling dodge all look the same. The only thing that looks different is the level design. Am I out of my mind, or did they borrow the game engine from this game?

    Look for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EvIIdLWLYY

    -Chris
    The game clearly was designed to basically be as much like Turrican as possible without actually using copyrighted content, yeah... but the 16-bit Turrican games are some of the best run & gun games ever, so why's that so bad?

    And no, it's not literally using Turrican music and graphics, just new stuff that looks and sounds very, very similar. For instance, this music is good, but it's just not at Chris Huelsbeck's level of greatness. Graphically it's closer (it does have better hardware than the SNES or Genesis, to have more and more detailed sprites, after all), but no, it's not literally Turrican sprites. Does it pretty much copy the gameplay, though, based on that video? Clearly yes.

    I do see one new thing, though -- I'm pretty sure that you can't jump in ball form in any of the Turrican games, but you can in Gunlord. Also, there's no sign of a grappling hook like Super Turrican 2 or a whip-grapple thing like Mega Turrican. Though of course, the other Turrican games don't have such a thing either... they do have a beam attack (Turrican 1 and 2) or freeze ray (both Super Turricans) though. GunLord seems to have a Turrican 1 or 2 style beam attack.

    Oh, as for the normal weapons, they all look like modified versions of Turrican weapons, so far, but several haven't been revealed yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bang-B...29060620484009

    Posted July 2nd, 2011 on their facebook page:

    "Bang Bang Busters Neo Geo Game Aes
    Pre-order for Treasure of Caribbean July 20th
    Limited Edition of 100 pieces,Japanese only.
    Price: 350 euros.Priority to the buyer of Bang Bang Busters from July 15th.
    Neogeo CD version is confirmed (english and japanese) for December.
    Thanks to everyone."

    then on July 23rd, 2011

    "Treasure of Caribbean AES sold out,thank you very much."

    In just 8 days, better than half of those already sold to buyers of BBBusters. This is the reason NGDEV decided to make AES version from scratch. The home cart market is a mystery to most, despite the outdated technology, people keep buying games even if it's only halfway decent.


    p.s.


    I'm not sure if Golden Shop still has it

    http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad...reasureofc.htm

    It's worth a try.
    Are you sure that Golden Shop isn't just peddling bootleg games?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectorman0 View Post
    Are you sure that Golden Shop isn't just peddling bootleg games?
    Yeah is that site legit?
    I'm thinking about placing a neo geo order but it looks kinda shady...
    Anyone ever order anything from there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    My concern is that at this point, they still sac other games for all their releases, including MVS carts, something I really frown upon. Hopefully this will change soon with NGDEV making cart shells, boards, and snap-lock boxes.
    This is incorrect; they've been producing their own carts since Fast Striker came out.

    May not be the case for AES, but for MVS they are definitely producing their own carts.

    http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/Fast_Striker

    Ninja edit: http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/La...:_Pink_Bullets

    To my knowledge, they only sac'd carts for the original run of Last Hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazuo View Post
    This is incorrect; they've been producing their own carts since Fast Striker came out.

    May not be the case for AES, but for MVS they are definitely producing their own carts.

    http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/Fast_Striker

    Ninja edit: http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/La...:_Pink_Bullets

    To my knowledge, they only sac'd carts for the original run of Last Hope.
    You're missing the point here, read the beginning of that post, I'm not talking about NGDEV, I'm talking about NCI from the start, Bang Bang Busters, TOC, all are using sac carts, including MVS and AES.

    NGDEV will be using all new parts, from shells, boards, and cases. Their new releases will be completely made of new parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Sniper View Post
    Exactly, they ripped off EVERYTHING, even the physics, it's ridiculous! Instead of making their own original gameplay style they chose to copy this?

    And yes, I AM DISSING TURRICAN. The movement and jump physics are atrocious!
    The funny thing is that this is exactly why I put in an order for this. Its more turrican-style run a gun action, I love this genera and the later Turricans were always super fun.

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    Ah, you'e right, my apologies. It was pretty late so I must've missed that.

    Definitely zero reason to sac carts now that ngdevteam can produce them.

    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    You're missing the point here, read the beginning of that post, I'm not talking about NGDEV, I'm talking about NCI from the start, Bang Bang Busters, TOC, all are using sac carts, including MVS and AES.

    NGDEV will be using all new parts, from shells, boards, and cases. Their new releases will be completely made of new parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substantial_snake View Post
    The funny thing is that this is exactly why I put in an order for this. Its more turrican-style run a gun action, I love this genera and the later Turricans were always super fun.
    To each their own. I didn't get the appeal of a game with such bad controls, so whatever.
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    Just for a quick update email from NGDEV, but their message can be viewed here

    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showth...=1#post3275650

    Pre-orders for Fast Strikers and Last Hope:Pink Bullet will open soon.

    I'm only surprised by the low numbers of productions, AES should be at least 200, MVS 100. I guess for small companies like NGDEV, they need to recoup the cost quickly and can't afford to sit around stocks of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    Just for a quick update email from NGDEV, but their message can be viewed here

    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showth...=1#post3275650

    Pre-orders for Fast Strikers and Last Hope:Pink Bullet will open soon.

    I'm only surprised by the low numbers of productions, AES should be at least 200, MVS 100. I guess for small companies like NGDEV, they need to recoup the cost quickly and can't afford to sit around stocks of games.
    I can't wait to pre-order Last Hope: Pink Bullets for the AES.
    Is Fast Strikers any good?

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    Weren't they planning on doing NeoCD versions of their games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Rockies View Post
    I can't wait to pre-order Last Hope: Pink Bullets for the AES.
    Is Fast Strikers any good?
    Mixed feedback, LHPB requires memorizing the paths and patterns else there's no way to get around.

    Fast Strikers requires fast response, much like Tiger Heli, I ended up spending more time with Fast Strikers since it's plug and play without too much thought.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
    Weren't they planning on doing NeoCD versions of their games?
    No, last batch of 500 copies (Last Hope) took forever to sell and they don't want that again, Dreamcast version is by far their best seller of all games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincewy View Post
    No, last batch of 500 copies (Last Hope) took forever to sell and they don't want that again, Dreamcast version is by far their best seller of all games.
    Too bad I heard about them only recently Maybe I'll go the DC route then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectorman0 View Post
    Are you sure that Golden Shop isn't just peddling bootleg games?
    Treasure of the Caribbean is a hacked game and not official so in essence it is also a bootleg unlike Bang Bang Busters which was licensed by Visco. NCI took the 10% complete ToC proto and programmed the rest.
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    Quick update, Analogue Interactive is adding new color for CMVS along with joysticks

    http://www.analogueinteractive.com/pages/analogue-store

    See pics of the first post.
    Last edited by vincewy; 07-20-2014 at 11:53 AM.

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