Videos Of All Jaguar Games

**Kevincal** · 11-13-2011, 11:32 PM

I compiled the list and many of the videos are mine.

**Drixxel** · 11-14-2011, 01:31 PM

That's an impressive archive, thanks for putting it together and uploading your fair share of video! While it's a shame that there are so many unreleased/unfinished games on the Jaguar, it certainly means there's never a shortage of oddities and special finds to be had with this console.

**Kevincal** · 11-14-2011, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Drixxel

That's an impressive archive, thanks for putting it together and uploading your fair share of video! While it's a shame that there are so many unreleased/unfinished games on the Jaguar, it certainly means there's never a shortage of oddities and special finds to be had with this console.

Thanks for the compliment.

Ya so many unfinished games for the Jag, but luckily a lot of them have been released and even some of them finished by homebrewers and released. The Jag has a great mix of games, from 16 bit type games to games that really show its potential, like AvP, Battlesphere, Iron Solder, Tempest 2000, Rayman. And more.

**Steve W** · 11-14-2011, 02:51 PM

I got a little bit excited when I saw videos for unreleased games like Apeshit, but was a little let down when it was just 2 stills taken from GameFan Magazine back in the day... I would love to see actual footage.

**Kevincal** · 11-16-2011, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Steve W

I got a little bit excited when I saw videos for unreleased games like Apeshit, but was a little let down when it was just 2 stills taken from GameFan Magazine back in the day... I would love to see actual footage.

lol ya sorry about that one.

Rick Rolled ya a bit there. :P

Where's all the rest of the Jaggy fans?

This system is so cool, just check out the variety of games.

It's like the ultimate 90's system, has everything from 8 bit to 64 bit style games. Carts and CDs. And all kinds of other cool stuff.

**Leo_A** · 11-17-2011, 12:21 AM

I've a fan, even though I don't feel quite the same way that you do.

Many of the releases are pure junk in that list (Which contains quite a few things that barely even qualify as real games and at least one video that isn't even a Jaguar game - Area 51), games that were average at best, or games that represent a missed opportunity. For that last category in particular, World Tour Racing comes to mind as a prime example. With a bit of polishing, improvements to the frame rate, and a release date 5 years earlier than what it actually ended up being when Telegames picked it up, it could've been great and something still worth playing in 2011.

Instead it joins the plentiful ranks of what could've been on the system, right alongside many other games like Atari Karts and Checkered Flag (There's nothing worthwhile playing with that last one in the state that it was released in, but it was a start to a promising Virtua Racing clone just the same and I wish they had gotten another 6 months or so to spend on it instead of releasing it in the state they did).

I think there are 12 or so excellent games on the system and another 20 or so games that range from average to very good that are worth picking up (Within reason, I don't think the small handful of cd games that are actually worth playing is enough to justify buying the cd attachment and neither Battlesphere revision is worth the entrance price for someone trying to get into the system in 2011). But still, that's not a bad percentage at all in my mind for a console that only had about 55-60 games or so released during its commercial life and less than 20 games of any real value developed or published afterwards from Songbird, Telegames, the Battlesphere developer whose name slips past me, and the Gorf port for the cd drive attachment. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if the percentage of good to junk was actually close to, if not higher, than some contemporaries like the Game Boy and the 16 bit platforms.

I think it and the 3DO both are underrated systems with reputations that they don't deserve. There's no doubt that they were both commercial failures, were badly mishandled, and had plenty of junk that was published. But there's no shortage of excellent games on both platforms to be had in spite of that.

I think my personal favorite is Super Burnout. I love 2D sprite scaling racers and playing this still makes me feel like I just stepped into a arcade in the early 90's. It's not perfect, but the experience is hard to beat on a console. It still makes me wish the developers had focused on the 2D sprite scaling capabilities of this thing instead of wasted efforts on 3D games like I-War, Cybermorph, and many others. The games could've been great and it still would've set the system apart from the Genesis and SuperNes. And they'd actually be worth playing in 2011, unlike the situation with software like Hover Strike.

**Kevincal** · 11-17-2011, 01:13 AM

Super Burnout is a great game, a cult classic. Rumor has it the game was actually developed in the guys apartment on weekend with a borrowed Jag dev system!

. That was in France. But ya, this game just oozes coolness.

I guess I am pretty hardcore but even I find fun in some of the Jags worst games.

For instance I find Supercross 3d and Club Drive quite fun. I just like the early 3d stuff, because that is when I really started getting hardcore into being a gamer, right around 1994 when 3d polygon games were new.

**Leo_A** · 11-17-2011, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Kevincal

I just like the early 3d stuff, because that is when I really started getting hardcore into being a gamer, right around 1994 when 3d polygon games were new.

I do too if I think it's a good game. I love games such as Star Fox on the SuperNes, games like F-22 and LHX on the Genesis, Stunt Race FX on the SuperNes, the Iron Soldier games on the Jaguar, and a whole range of arcade games like Hard/Race Drivin'.

Sadly, I just don't think any amount of care really went into most of the 3D projects for the Jaguar. But I can certainly understand someone enjoying the early 3D era since I have an appreciation for many such projects from the time. including some that have few fans (Like those two Genesis examples I just gave, although Majesco must've agreed with me 12 years ago or so since they licensed and rereleased both of them years after their original release).

**Kevincal** · 11-17-2011, 02:09 AM

I actually think Cybermorph is better than Starfox personally. :P Its free roaming, more difficult and longer game, better graphics, decent storyline and sounds except lack of music. control is good. And it is has the sexiest green lady around, skylar!

Iron Soldier on the Jag is SO good... So many people have never played that game and they are missing out. super smooth 3d graphics on the jag, killer music, great control, cool story and weapons. Mechs, and more. Iron soldier 2 is great too.

**Leo_A** · 11-17-2011, 02:36 AM

While I can't agree in the slightest about Cybermorph even being in the same class as Star Fox, I certainly agree about the quality of both Iron Soldier releases. I need to see what Iron Soldier III was like someday on the PSOne (No interest in picking up a Nuon, so that will have to make do).

**Drixxel** · 11-17-2011, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Leo_A

...but it was a start to a promising Virtua Racing clone just the same and I wish they had gotten another 6 months or so to spend on it instead of releasing it in the state they did).

I definitely agree on this point, and I think that sentiment applies to just about any of the mediocre-to-bad games in the Jaguar library. There's a general sense of incompleteness about this console which is supported by the sheer number of unfinished games for it, projects that were undertaken by aspiring developers but ultimately abandoned for a number of reasons. The Jaguar is, perhaps, the most grievous example of what happens when the first party neglects its third party software developers. Rarely has such potential been squandered in the video games industry.

**Kevincal** · 11-17-2011, 01:24 PM

There are many awesome 3rd party games on the Jag though.

Wolfenstein 3d, Doom, AvP, Zool 2, Iron Soldier, Rayman, Myst, NBA Jam TE, Pinball Fantasies, Power Drive Rally, Super Burnout, Worms, to name some.

But ya, overall Atari didnt do a very good job supporting the 3rd party devs, to be fair though, Atari could barely afford to focus on their own efforts, let alone babysit the 3rd parties. Companies like Nintendo have the luxury of excess money, Atari was barely scraping by in the mid 90's and even had to sue Sega to keep the company alive another year or 2 in 1994 - 1995.

**Leo_A** · 11-17-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kevincal

Companies like Nintendo have the luxury of excess money, Atari was barely scraping by in the mid 90's and even had to sue Sega to keep the company alive another year or 2 in 1994 - 1995.

Seems like they still had millions in the bank when JTS acquired them. As I recall, their bankroll was one of the key reasons behind why they purchased Atari.

Edit - According to this, they had $50 million in cash when that happened.

http://www.system16.com/atari_history.php

**Kevincal** · 11-17-2011, 07:54 PM

ok, but how much money did nintendo and sega have in 1995? I bet a hell of a lot more than 50 mill. 50 mill wouldnt last long in the video game world where you are trying to sell systems and games and advertising. Not to mention I know for a fact Atari owed a bunch of 3rd party developers and Atari employees.

**Steve W** · 11-20-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kevincal

Aircars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaOjwss7Pqs
Aircars 94 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzda2kbuTes
Aircars KA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiumZNm8iZk

Why did you put up three links to Aircars? Is there any difference between the first mail-order batch and the later KA release? I'd like to know because I'm one of those people who mail-ordered it back in the day, and I'd love to know that the later re-release plays better (or at least doesn't suck quite as much).

**Kevincal** · 11-21-2011, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Steve W

Why did you put up three links to Aircars? Is there any difference between the first mail-order batch and the later KA release? I'd like to know because I'm one of those people who mail-ordered it back in the day, and I'd love to know that the later re-release plays better (or at least doesn't suck quite as much).

All 3 of these actually do have in game differences.

Regular old Aircars is the game most people (99%) got in 1995 when they bought Aircars. (aircars KA was dumped recently and something like 100 copies were made and sold) Aircars KA, is MUCH more rare, atleast the one that was sold in 1995 at the same time of Aircars, supposedly only about 5 are known to exist (100 rerelease), I actual had one of these 5 originals and sold it on ebay a week or 2 ago for $340. Original Aircar KAs previously sold for closer to 500 but only came up for sale once every 2-3 years! If that! With the bad economy it took me months to sell it for only 340. Also the rerelease didnt help... The KA version has bigger explosions, a different heads up display, and some other stuff, from what I read the KA version is a bit better, but that is not saying much for this sorry game. Though many people say this game was designed with multiplayer in mind and is much more fun when played with up to 8 other people. The same people / company who made this game also made the catbox.

Now Aircars 94 is a recent release by the Jaguar homebrew community, and is an earlier build of the regular Aircars, so I believe it is an alpha or beta but dont quote me on that.

**Leo_A** · 11-21-2011, 08:11 AM

How do you like Total Carnage? Never had the urge to buy that thanks to having the arcade version in compilation form on Midway Arcade Treasures 2 (And dual analog sticks certainly help enjoy a game like this).

I can't imagine enjoying it with the standard controller. Does it support the Pro controller so you could use 4 of the 6 face buttons to properly fire with (Ala Robotron 2084 on the William's Collection on systems like the SuperNes and Playstation)?

Edit - Looks like it does.

http://www.atariage.com/controller_p...ontrollerID=20

**Manga4life** · 11-21-2011, 09:20 AM

Great post! Man, some of these games I've never played before and now that I can see what the games are like I may just grab some Jaguar games for the ol' cat in the near future, it would be the first time I've bought a Jaguar game since 2003 when I grab a few used ones in a gaming shop. After watching some of these videos I'm now thinking there is 3-4 games that I'd like to pick up, aside from the average Jaguar "hits" I don't really have many abstract titles so this thread will certainly make a nice reference guide.

**Kevincal** · 11-22-2011, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Leo_A

How do you like Total Carnage? Never had the urge to buy that thanks to having the arcade version in compilation form on Midway Arcade Treasures 2 (And dual analog sticks certainly help enjoy a game like this).

I can't imagine enjoying it with the standard controller. Does it support the Pro controller so you could use 4 of the 6 face buttons to properly fire with (Ala Robotron 2084 on the William's Collection on systems like the SuperNes and Playstation)?

Edit - Looks like it does.

http://www.atariage.com/controller_p...ontrollerID=20

I have played TC for a total of 5 minutes maybe. I sold it. I mean, you can buy the game for the SNES for loads cheaper. Not sure of the differences between versions. Ya the controls are kinda wonky with the 3 button jag pad. Not sure about pro controller.

Still to be fair and give credit to Songbird (who got the game released) it is a good game and any new Jaguar game is cool. Its just tough to stomach the fact that basically the exact same game can be had for so much cheaper.

Originally Posted by Manga4life

Great post! Man, some of these games I've never played before and now that I can see what the games are like I may just grab some Jaguar games for the ol' cat in the near future, it would be the first time I've bought a Jaguar game since 2003 when I grab a few used ones in a gaming shop. After watching some of these videos I'm now thinking there is 3-4 games that I'd like to pick up, aside from the average Jaguar "hits" I don't really have many abstract titles so this thread will certainly make a nice reference guide.

Thanks

ya I thought it would be cool to show off Jag games this way, people can just browse and click to see a game. Some of the games in the list though were never released and you cant buy them anywhere.

**Kevincal** · 11-23-2011, 01:02 PM

Yet another new Jaguar game released

Kobayashi Maru - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0LzbjRPcvc

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