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    Default NES vs. Commodore 64 versions of games!!!

    What Commodore 64 games do you prefer to their NES counterparts?

    Here is the game that spawned this thread:

    I just received the Famicom cartridge (tape/whatever) version of Yie Ar Kung Fu through eBay. I use to love both the arcade version and the Commodore 64 version. Owning the C64 version, that was the definitive version for me, and, quite honestly, the Famicom/NES version just does not compare. The super high jumping is neutered, the colorful backgrounds are traded for a drab black dojo, the NES version has half of the amount of bosses, and, perhaps worst of all, the glorious Commodore 64 music chip isn't cranking out the tunes!!! So as not to completely bash the Famicom version, they did add a bonus stage on the Famicom version and the character design could easily be argued to be graphically superior. Still, it is not enough. The feeling just ain't right.

    So, what Commodore 64 versions of a game do you prefer to the NES version?

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    Default Commodore 64 vs. NES versions of games!!!

    *I apologize to any and all higher powers for double posting this thread. After a good few seconds of half-baked deliberation, I decided that this thread would probably do *cough* "better" in the Classic Computer Gaming section.*

    What Commodore 64 games do you prefer to their NES counterparts?

    Here is the game that spawned this thread:

    I just received the Famicom cartridge (tape/whatever) version of Yie Ar Kung Fu through eBay. I use to love both the arcade version and the Commodore 64 version. Owning the C64 version, that was the definitive version for me, and, quite honestly, the Famicom/NES version just does not compare. The super high jumping is neutered, the colorful backgrounds are traded for a drab black dojo, the NES version has half of the amount of bosses, and, perhaps worst of all, the glorious Commodore 64 music chip isn't cranking out the tunes!!! So as not to completely bash the Famicom version, they did add a bonus stage on the Famicom version and the character design could easily be argued to be graphically superior. Still, it is not enough. The feeling just ain't right.

    So, what Commodore 64 versions of a game do you prefer to the NES version?
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    The only one that comes to mind is Robocop 3. The C64 version has this AMAZING titlescreen muisc that is the epitome of awesome chiptunes. Just listen and jam out to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    Just listen and jam out to this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6PEHdQJbO8
    Awesome. I've heard this before on youtube, although I've never seen, much less played, the game. The way the C64 (sic) mimicked the screeching electric guitar from the '80s is a thing of incomparable beauty indeed.

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    I know this is a generic response, but I would say any RPG that involved text. I don't know what it is, but games like Wizardry and Bard's Tale on the NES never looked right to me.

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    Never owned a NES but I did own a C64... Those were the days... Gyruss would be another example I guess, the NES version looked better, but lacked the the challenge of the Arcade/C64 version. Sure, they added bosses and such and other extras, but I still prefer the C64 version.

    Oh, and the music on the C64 was AWESOME.

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    The Ultima ports on the C64 are a lot better than the NES versions, but the C64 still aren't the best versions around. Some games are just meant to be played with a keyboard, and these are some of those games.

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    I wonder what happened to the post I made last night? Oh well, I'll post it again.

    The C64 is a much less capable system than the NES, so its hard to think of any games that are on par, let alone superior on the C64. That said, there were a few games made for both in which the Famicom version is inferior. The game that comes to mind when I think that way is Robocop 3.

    The C64 has this outstanding titlescreen theme that is easily one of my favorite chiptunes ever. There's an NES version of the same track, but the SID chip just belts out a better chiptune than the 2A03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    The C64 is a much less capable system than the NES, so its hard to think of any games that are on par, let alone superior on the C64.
    I wouldn't call the C64 MUCH LESS CAPABLE. It's a very capable 8 Bit computer with all sorts of great in-built capabilities.

    Off the top of my head there were a few games that I recall preferring on the C64...

    Three Stooges
    Defender of the Crown
    Ivan Stewart's Super Off Road
    Maniac Mansion
    Donkey Kong (had all the arcade levels)
    Winter Games
    World Games
    California Games
    Impossible Mission II

    I'm sure there were plenty of others, in the prime of both systems I was gaming extensively on both and I can recall doing plenty of comparisons that came away with c64 being the winner.
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    I had my C64 out a couple of weeks ago and my son and I played some M.U.L.E. together on it. Last weekend, he wanted to try it again after the C64 was back in the closet so I pulled up the NES version on an emulator. What a huge letdown. Even my 8-year old son kept commenting about all of the things missing.

    Love this topic by the way...something different!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    I wonder what happened to the post I made last night?
    It's right here:
    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158204

    I apologize, Satoshi san! I reposted this thread from the Classic Gaming board to the Classic Computer Gaming board because I thought it was better suited there. Your original post is still there.

    Sorry!!!

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    As far as Capcom games are concerned, I remember 1943 and Commando being much cooler on the Commodore 64. The graphics just look so sterile and dead on the NES in comparison. Also, hitting the space bar for the grenade on Commando is awesome rather than inconvenient. Trust me. It makes the attack way more eventful that way.

    Would it be throwing salt into the wound to mention the music difference? Rock this theme song!
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    Can a mod please marry this thread with the one in Classic Computer Gaming? Sorry about this.

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    I just hope nobody ever says Renegade because the C64 port was horrible and sluggish when compared to the NES version. Even the SMS version feels kind of weird when compared to the NES version.

    On Donkey Kong... but the C64 version is so hard compared to the NES version. It's a bit less forgiving even on the first level.
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    Gyruss and Boulder Dash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k8track View Post
    Gyruss and Boulder Dash.
    I second Gyruss. Sure, the NES version has bigger, more colorfull sprites and even 'end bosses', but those end bosses didn't fit the game imho.

    Also, the SID kicks the NES's soundchip arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k8track View Post
    Boulder Dash.
    Wait, have you seen the incredible NES version? Its one of the best versions of Boulder Dash ever. I don't know how anyone could prefer the C64 version. Can you explain your reasoning?
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    MERGIFIED!

    (and since there were more responses in Classic Gaming, I figured that's the place it wanted to live.)
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    I like both and have both. Myself I go with the game that I like better on both systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    I wouldn't call the C64 MUCH LESS CAPABLE. It's a very capable 8 Bit computer with all sorts of great in-built capabilities.

    Off the top of my head there were a few games that I recall preferring on the C64...

    Defender of the Crown
    The NES version of Defender of the Crown was WAY too easy because of the extras they added. When your home castle was attacked you defended it with a crossbow shooting mini-game rather than a regular battle screen, but because of the way it was set up you could easily beat it without ever getting hit (it was a little slow and there were only a few spots where the soldiers popped up). So you could easily leave only one soldier to defend your home castle and never have to worry about it.

    The joust scene added a second part where you fought with morning stars and was fairly easy as well. If you lost the jousting part (which was still ungodly hard) you could easily beat the morning star part and win the event (you only had to win one or the other IIRC). So even a character with bad jousting skills could easily win. This made it super easy to grab other peoples land and max out your fame.
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