SNES diserves a better Emulator!

[16bit_chainsaw]

Super Nintendo Entertainment System was the best Console of its time,almost every good game had its snes version,but unfortunately there is no emulator that emulates the snes console with accuracy. Everythings fine but its the picture quality Im talking about.If you turn on 2xai or super 2xai filtering,then it fails to look like the actual thing.

On the other hand Sega Genesis has the best emulator.it has good bilinear filtering just like MAME,and CVBS effect,by which the picture quality becomes closer the Genesis console's picture quality






with 2xai or super2xai filtering

[Red Earth]

i guess i dont really care for snes emulation because i have a real console with real games and it looks great everytime. i dont have to worry about someone making a better emulator, i put in my game and play as originally intended. what a concept

[kedawa]

I don't like filtering of any kind.
I have absolutely no nostalgia for crappy old televisions and their blurry images.
Give me nice sharp whole number scaling and I'm happy.

[theclaw]

Well SNES and Genesis were designed to use RGB-based graphics without filtering. They should initially (important word here) have a razor crisp purity with every pixel as distinct as possible. Before any encoding for composite/svideo users, or emulator special effects.

NES emulators that look inaccurate are due to failure to recreate that system's composite PPU.

Though problems are unavoidable on Virtual Boy or vector graphics. Those use video hardware too distinct from common TVs or monitors to quite get right.

[Cers]

Try BSNES and thank me later

[Polygon]

i guess i dont really care for snes emulation because i have a real console with real games and it looks great everytime. i dont have to worry about someone making a better emulator, i put in my game and play as originally intended. what a concept

This.

I'm not a huge fan of emulation. I get the consoles and the games that I want. I even have older computers just to play those older games. There's nothing like playing it on the original hardware. The only emulation that I like is MAME because I can't buy all the arcade cabinets that I would want. I would really like a MAME box.

[16bit_chainsaw]

Try BSNES and thank me later

bsnes sucks as well.

[Sharpking89]

pictures and stories like this make me want to hug my Nintendo/Sharp cobo tv's lol
there is no emulator that will produce what the original hardware and software did,clones systems have been at it for almost 2 decade's (all fails) so i dont think pc will hack it anytime soon.
for best pic quality in vintage carts,you need a crt/rgb or if you can find one a NES Sharp 19sv111 as they are like an 80's HD tv FOR ALL GAMES! even my Gamecubes gameplay/picture quality is enhanced by one of those!

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

If you don't like the current crop of SNES emulators that are available, then by all means feel free to go out and create your own. After all, it is not like the current emulators just appeared out of thin air.

[Kiddo]

bsnes sucks as well.

As someone who actually knows what bsnes's problems are and considering that you harped about "accuracy" (and then referred to Kega Fusion, which while better than other Genesis emulators is not as hardware-accurate to the Genesis as bsnes is to the Super Nintendo), what would you say is wrong with bsnes?

[Sharpking89]

*turns on sharp and grabs popcorn*

[SparTonberry]

bsnes sucks as well.

Why is that?
It runs almost everything (the few things it doesn't are literally a few Japanese games most people have never heard of anyways) and its sound quality is a lot better than ZSNES.
Though the only bad thing I can imagine is it requires a good CPU to run, and it won't run BS-X games directly (requiring you to actually load them within the BS-X BIOS).
I know someone at some point wrote filter plugins for it that even do attempt to recreate a CRT look, including a curved screen (including overscan cutoff, though that filter I used didn't have an option to off-center the image) and a fuzzy RF connection (though I don't think anyone's taken it to the extreme by adding random interference to really re-create the experience of playing a SNES on a crappy TV in the '90s). Now THAT is an effort to look like the real thing.

[Kiddo]

and it won't run BS-X games directly (requiring you to actually load them within the BS-X BIOS).

The method of running Satellaview ROM data bsnes has is more hardware-accurate than any of the other emulators, and as such this ROM loading method is a necessity for it. If you don't like it, then by association you'd rather sacrifice the hardware-accurate nature for convenience.

That being said, it's compatibility is still low. For the Soundlink entries a "hardware accurate" method would involve having to set up the online environment again - thankfully someone is working on that. And there's also still issues with Data Packs and their compatible games.

[Sharpking89]

"a fuzzy RF connection (though I don't think anyone's taken it to the extreme by adding random interference to really re-create the experience of playing a SNES on a crappy TV in the '90s). Now THAT is an effort to look like the real thing"

uhh...what? what if my nes is hardwired/runs straight to the tv? or im using a vcr av out no rf's? lol
now thats the real "classy way"

[Kitsune Sniper]

bsnes sucks as well.

And by that you mean your Pentium can't run it.

Sure, there are some features that could be considered "standard" in an emulator that just aren't in there, but other than that, the actual emulation is wonderfully accurate. And playable.

And the program isn't nearly as slow as it was two years ago.

[MarioMania]

Steve Snake did a great job on Kega Fusion

I been playing my games real hardwear now, But I still fire up Kega & ZSNES

[intvsama]

Haven't we sealed the 'emulator vs real thing' portal already? This is fucking 2012 people, not 1998. Play what you want in the manner that you want, no one else cares.

[theclaw]

Unfortunately it's near impossible for North American users to grasp how these older consoles were intended to look. People here carry a strong association between them and composite blur. Those who've always been exposed to RGB from the outset, whether they realize it or not have a better grasp how console visuals work on a technical level.

[megasdkirby]

Super Nintendo Entertainment System was the best emulator of its time,

Oh man, that's priceless. Never knew the Super Nintendo Entertainment System was the best emulator of it's time.

[Aussie2B]

Unfortunately it's near impossible for North American users to grasp how these older consoles were intended to look. People here carry a strong association between them and composite blur. Those who've always been exposed to RGB from the outset, whether they realize it or not have a better grasp how console visuals work on a technical level.

No, it's the other way around. Developers didn't live in some magical bubble in which they had no clue how their games would be played. Developers, if they were smart at least, would design their games based around a non-pixel perfect display. If they intended for their games to be viewed in a pixel-perfect manner, then they were just plain stupid because everyone knew that wasn't the reality.

That's why, for example, you see weird checkerboard-like meshes in some games when emulating or playing in RGB. On the expected output (RF, composite, s-video, whatever), where it would be blurred some, that pattern would look like a transparency effect. That effect is lost with a pixel-perfect display.

Personally, when I emulate (which is rare), I don't use any filters because they make games look like smeared crap (and completely unlike how they'd look on the real hardware too). But when I use my consoles, I don't at all feel like I'm getting the "wrong" experience by playing in composite or whatever.