Nintendo's E3 2012 Official Thread

[PapaStu]

Nintendo has already done their pre E3 announcement video, but they still have their keynote on Tuesday. Please keep the Nintendo E3 conversations here!

[Ryudo]

Nintendo has already done their pre E3 announcement video, but they still have their keynote on Tuesday. Please keep the Nintendo E3 conversations here!

I hope they can save E3 because so far it's a giant flop of failure

[G-Boobie]

I hope they can save E3 because so far it's a giant flop of failure

Well, its the final year of the generation. It's not surprising that there isn't much but sequels and rehashes on offer.

I also wonder what value E3 has other than selling to retail buyers, which is, hey! what E3 is actually for. Publishers and developers can reach the gaming audience any time they want now: Twitter, YouTube videos, blogs, ARGs, podcasts... there are much more efficient ways for marketers to display their goods.

Maybe next year we'll see the new boxes from Microsoft and Sony, and some games that take advantage of the new hardware, but I think we're just as likely to see the reveals on G4 or MTV.

[substantial_snake]

I most wanna see if the 3DS XL rumors turn out to be true.

I really like the 3DS but the more I use it the less comfortable it is. I think a lot of the problems I have with they system could be remedied by simply making a bigger model. That and having a larger 3D screen "could" mean that the 3D effect has a larger viewing angle which would be great since a lot of the games gyro-styled targeting kills the 3D effect for me.

Outside of that generally more info about the WiiU would be great, it seems that Nintendo is really reaching out to third parties this time around and I'ed like to see what they reveal this time.

[buzz_n64]

Super Mario U announced, that's all I need to know.

[Leo_A]

I never cared for the graphical style they used in New Super Mario Brothers (Or the background music for that matter). Much more like the way this Wii U release appears in these shots with all the details. Doesn't look like a cheap budget release anymore and looks much more in line with how I pictured how a modern sidescrolling Mario title in the style of things like SMB3/SMW should look on modern hardware.





Hope they give the audio a makeover while they're at it. Not a single memorable song in either NSMB.

And NSMB2 on the 3DS looks set to maintain the styling they've set on the previous two games.

Super Mario U announced, that's all I need to know.

It was already confirmed.

[Bojay1997]

I've gotta say that Nintendo did a good job of selling me on the WiiU. I'm actually excited to use the controller and it seems like a very natural extension of the Wii brand.

[Rob2600]

Lego City actually looks awesome- humorous and great graphics. I'm looking forward to that one.

[RCM]

I can't wait to play old Xbox 360 games on Wii U with a knock off 360 controller. I'll have to save up to buy the 500 Mario titles they announced, but I'm not sure I'll have the time to play since I'll be too busy immersed in the wonder that is Nintendo Land.

This system will certainly test the mettle of many a Nintendo fanboy...

[Red Warrior]

So far the only Wii U games I want are Mario U and Pikmin 3, but that's not enough to warrant a $300 or $400 purchase. Boring conference this year. Nothing else to say.

[WCP]

I was very disappointed that they didn't show a "legit" Nintendo game besides Pikmin 3. Pikmin 3 does look very cool, but it's not going to make me pull $300 out of my wallet. I needed to see a real Mario game. Yeah, they had New Super Mario Bros. U, but the game just looked way too much like the Wii version. It kinda seemed like a rush job, just to get a Mario game on Wii U, but not the kind of Mario game that's going to get somebody to shell out 350 bucks (for system + game). At least not me. I would need like a Mario Galaxy game or an all-new 2D Mario that is more centered on a single player experience, with more next-level graphics. Honestly, if you put the Wii version right next to the Wii U version, I don't think there is that much of a difference. Obviously, it's a resolution difference, but for some reason I was expecting more than that.

Also, if Nintendo showed at least one other traditional Nintendo game, I would have probably been cool with it, but they didn't. No Zelda, no Metroid, no Donkey Kong, no F-Zero, no WaveRace, Starfox, Kirby, Pilotwings etc, etc. As cool as Pikmin 3 and Zombie U look, they aren't going to get me to pull $400 out of my pocket.

[Press_Start]

Also, if Nintendo showed at least one other traditional Nintendo game, I would have probably been cool with it, but they didn't. No Zelda, no Metroid, no Donkey Kong, no F-Zero, no WaveRace, Starfox, Kirby, Pilotwings etc, etc. As cool as Pikmin 3 and Zombie U look, they aren't going to get me to pull $400 out of my pocket.

Heck, we didn't get a opening price or even a retail date for that matter, no bigger bullhorn than E3. I know, I know they say they wouldn't but this left more questions than answers. It didn't feel like a real Nintendo conference, it was more like Reggie was saying "YES! YES! WE HAVE 3RD PARTY SUPPORT! wiifit. PLZ LIKE US HARDCORE GAMERZ! nintendoland. PLZ! PLZ! PLZ!" The fact they have a separate event for 3DS alone shows what should have been they're best clear-cut media event to hype-launch both their new systems for battleground '12 (Christmas) turned into a potential confusing, tepid, and underwhelming kissassia affair with mixed results. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for the games but I agree with WCP, there's room for more....A LOT more.

[Trumpman]

Really pissed that Rayman Legends is apparently a Wii U exclusive. Why, Ubisoft?

[The 1 2 P]

I just watched the show and although this year wasn't the greatest overall E3 as far as press conferences are concerned, Nintendo's was really lackluster. All I wanted was a reason for them to sell me on the Wii U. Instead we got looks at the usual legacy first party titles and mostly third party hand-me-downs from last gen(once the Wii U launches they'll be last gen). Is it just me or does this look like the Wii all over again? The only two games that interested me were the Castelvania: LOS 3DS game and Zombie U(although I really hope they change that title). Everything else was very blah to me and I was pretty disappointed by this confernce. I knew we weren't going to get a price or release date but frankly that doesn't even matter now because I have no real incentive to want this system anytime soon while I still have my 360, PS3 and Wii to game on.

[shertz]

I most wanna see if the 3DS XL rumors turn out to be true.

I really like the 3DS but the more I use it the less comfortable it is. I think a lot of the problems I have with they system could be remedied by simply making a bigger model. That and having a larger 3D screen "could" mean that the 3D effect has a larger viewing angle which would be great since a lot of the games gyro-styled targeting kills the 3D effect for me.

Outside of that generally more info about the WiiU would be great, it seems that Nintendo is really reaching out to third parties this time around and I'ed like to see what they reveal this time.

I was hoping for this too! Too bad the rumors were false. Maybe next year!

[Bojay1997]

I just watched the show and although this year wasn't the greatest overall E3 as far as press conferences are concerned, Nintendo's was really lackluster. All I wanted was a reason for them to sell me on the Wii U. Instead we got looks at the usual legacy first party titles and mostly third party hand-me-downs from last gen(once the Wii U launches they'll be last gen). Is it just me or does this look like the Wii all over again? The only two games that interested me were the Castelvania: LOS 3DS game and Zombie U(although I really hope they change that title). Everything else was very blah to me and I was pretty disappointed by this confernce. I knew we weren't going to get a price or release date but frankly that doesn't even matter now because I have no real incentive to want this system anytime soon while I still have my 360, PS3 and Wii to game on.

I guess I don't really know what people were expecting. With Sony and Microsoft likely launching their next generation consoles in 2013, it is very unlikely that any third parties are going to reveal their next generation stuff right now, even if it will be on Wii U as well as the other two platforms. As such, Nintendo is basically stuck with whatever they can show which right now is going to be current generation stuff with some enhancements. Similarly, Nintendo has historically taken the approach of waiting until closer to launch to reveal pricing, availability dates and first party launch software. Personally, I saw enough to convince me that this is going to be a really fun console with some neat first party software and hopefully some innovative third party stuff that uses the gamepad. Is it enough? For me it was and at least they didn't focus most of the time on exercise applications, streaming media, communication gimmicks and other junk I have little or no interest in using.

[The 1 2 P]

As such, Nintendo is basically stuck with whatever they can show which right now is going to be current generation stuff with some enhancements.

The 360 got launched first this gen and because of that received exclusives such as Dead Rising and Lost Planet(among others) just because they were the first to launch. Lost Planet later got ported to the PS3 so I don't see why a similiar situation couldn't happen with Wii U. You seem to basically be saying "nobody wants to reveal a next gen game on the Wii U first because it will be showing off a next gen game before Sony or Microsoft launches their systems". I don't really buy that because the title could most likely just be ported to the other systems or stay exclusive to the Wii U.

Personally, I saw enough to convince me that this is going to be a really fun console with some neat first party software and hopefully some innovative third party stuff that uses the gamepad. Is it enough? For me it was

And for me it wasn't.

[frogofdeath]

I never cared for the graphical style they used in New Super Mario Brothers (Or the background music for that matter). Much more like the way this Wii U release appears in these shots with all the details. Doesn't look like a cheap budget release anymore and looks much more in line with how I pictured how a modern sidescrolling Mario title in the style of things like SMB3/SMW should look on modern hardware.

Agreed. I have always found the NSMB games to look almost like plastic. This version looks considerably better and more artistic and cartoon-like, which is how I've felt Mario should be.

Also, if Nintendo showed at least one other traditional Nintendo game, I would have probably been cool with it, but they didn't. No Zelda, no Metroid, no Donkey Kong, no F-Zero, no WaveRace, Starfox, Kirby, Pilotwings etc, etc. As cool as Pikmin 3 and Zombie U look, they aren't going to get me to pull $400 out of my pocket.

This and more of this. Really, Nintendo games are the main reason I invest in their home console and so far those are slim pickins. Sure you don't need all of these announced, especially the big guns, but give me some more games that can be played in short bursts. Titles like WaveRace, or even a new 1080, would be great compliments to Pikmin 3 and New Super Mario Bros. Then give us glimspes of what's to come (3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc...).

[Bojay1997]

Well, Microsoft was also throwing around a lot of money in the early 360 days to get timed exclusives. Nintendo is apparently unwilling or unable to do the same thing with WiiU and given the fact that the overwhelming majority of million selling titles on Wii were first party, I kinda doubt most developers are looking to make their own WiiU exclusive commitment. I would suspect they also won't do so on the new Xbox or PS with the exception of a few very specific smaller developers that need support from the manufacturer/publisher and will become defacto first party studios. If there really is performance parity or something close to it between the WiiU and the next generation 360 and PS, I think you are going to see a repeat of the PS2/Xbox/GC generation where many games are released on all three and the exclusives are few and far between. Frankly, the economics of the current industry will make it very difficult to do anything but support all three or at least not release many exclusives and therefore limit the potential customer base.

The 360 got launched first this gen and because of that received exclusives such as Dead Rising and Lost Planet(among others) just because they were the first to launch. Lost Planet later got ported to the PS3 so I don't see why a similiar situation couldn't happen with Wii U. You seem to basically be saying "nobody wants to reveal a next gen game on the Wii U first because it will be showing off a next gen game before Sony or Microsoft launches their systems". I don't really buy that because the title could most likely just be ported to the other systems or stay exclusive to the Wii U.



And for me it wasn't.

[substantial_snake]

I was hoping for this too! Too bad the rumors were false. Maybe next year!

Thats too bad. I feel like I need to pick up another DS lite to enjoy my DS games since the d-pad is in such an awkward position on the 3DS. Indeed maybe next year.