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    Lightbulb PSA: PS3 firmware update is live, Plus cloud storage increased [Joystiq]

    The new PS3 firmware update designed to support increased PlayStation Plus cloud storage is now live in North America. Most PlayStation Plus users will find that their systems have already downloaded the file this morning, though it will still need to be installed.

    Non-Plus users don't have the automatic download feature, but still have to install a system update that doesn't do anything for them. Sorry!PSA: PS3 firmware update is live, Plus cloud storage increased originally appeared on Joystiq on Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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    Would be nice if Sony would give the 150 to non-plus users at this point, especially since they're tasked with the arbitrary update supporting it.
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    That's such bull shit that only Playstation+ members get cloud storage. It's a slap in the face to people who paid $250+ for a PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duffmanth View Post
    That's such bull shit that only Playstation+ members get cloud storage. It's a slap in the face to people who paid $250+ for a PS3.
    But...that's not a service that existed until plus launched.

    I think that they should give standard users the low end storage and the 1G for plus.
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    While I would like atleast 50mb cloud storage or something for save files for whenever I bring a game over to a friends house, I'm not complaining that I'm not getting Cloud storage. XBL Gold has cloud storage, online play, Netflix, Hulu, NFL Sunday Ticket, MLB.tv. XBL Silver has trophies and messaging.

    Cloud storage takes space, so naturally you'd assume it's a service that you would have to pay for. Online play for games, you paid for the game. Netflix, you pay for Netflix and are using their servers.

    You should be glad you're not paying $60(or less if it's a sale) each year. Or just cry about it. I mean everyone complains every time Sony does anything, so why should this be any different.
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    So I guess this means I will have to wait a bit before I can continue playing Killzone 2 while this downloads. Or maybe I can skip this by not signing onto PSN. As for cloud storage, I don't see the point of it so far. It's such a small amount that it's only practical use is transfering your Gamertag or very small MB DLC games between consoles. I have a few small demos on mine but I pretty much keep it disabled on my 360.
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    I've never actually used the cloud save thing, but it's nice to know I'll have all the space I need if I ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duffmanth View Post
    That's such bull shit that only Playstation+ members get cloud storage. It's a slap in the face to people who paid $250+ for a PS3.
    Less a slap in the face, more a fart in the general direction.

    An actual slap in the face was removing OtherOS from people who paid $599 for a PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 1 2 P View Post
    So I guess this means I will have to wait a bit before I can continue playing Killzone 2 while this downloads. Or maybe I can skip this by not signing onto PSN. As for cloud storage, I don't see the point of it so far. It's such a small amount that it's only practical use is transfering your Gamertag or very small MB DLC games between consoles. I have a few small demos on mine but I pretty much keep it disabled on my 360.
    You can always skip updates by turning off the internet connection in your system. The only time this doesn't work is if you buy and try to play a brand new game that comes packaged with an update. Wii is the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post


    But...that's not a service that existed until plus launched.

    I think that they should give standard users the low end storage and the 1G for plus.
    Yeah I know it's a service that launched after plus, but they could give every PS3 owner a bit of free storage for buying the system and games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastProcessing402 View Post
    Less a slap in the face, more a fart in the general direction.

    An actual slap in the face was removing OtherOS from people who paid $599 for a PS3.

    Oh yeah, for sure. Also implementing "cinavia" so you can't play downloaded movies and dropping support of ps2 backwards compatibility for new units.

    It wouldn't have been a big deal if it hadn't been offered in the first place, but it was and Sony took all of it away. Sorry, but when I buy something I don't like pieces of it taken away after I have made a purchase. I thought Sony had changed over the years, should have known better honestly, they are just as underhanded as they have always been and they won't get a dime from me in the foreseeable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHvrd View Post
    Oh yeah, for sure. Also implementing "cinavia" so you can't play downloaded movies and dropping support of ps2 backwards compatibility for new units.

    It wouldn't have been a big deal if it hadn't been offered in the first place, but it was and Sony took all of it away. Sorry, but when I buy something I don't like pieces of it taken away after I have made a purchase. I thought Sony had changed over the years, should have known better honestly, they are just as underhanded as they have always been and they won't get a dime from me in the foreseeable future.
    When have they ever removed features, besides in the case of PS3?
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    I wasn't referring to them removing features in general as much as just being as underhanded as ever as far as drm and copy protection is concerned, but this time instead of hiding it under a veiled mask they decided to lead people into buying features they would remove.

    I was specifically referring to their history of copy protection shenanigans. Sony has never been up front with their users of their limitations and giving users something to work with, instead they always try to herd them in and it ends up biting them in their ass. If only Sony could learn to be honest with its consumers it would help.

    "It seems that the most recent DVDs released by Sony — specifically Stranger Than Fiction, Casino Royale, and The Pursuit of Happyness — have some kind of 'feature' that makes them unplayable on many DVD players. This doesn't appear to be covered by the major media yet, but this link to a discussion over at Amazon gives a flavor of the problems people are experiencing. A blogger called Sony and was told the problem is with the new copy protection scheme, and they do not intend to fix it. Sony says it's up to the manufacturers to update their hardware."
    The Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal concerns the copy protection measures included by Sony BMG on Compact Discs in 2005. Sony BMG included the Extended Copy Protection (XCP) and MediaMax CD-3 software on music CDs. XCP was put on 52 titles[1] and MediaMax was put on 50 titles.[2] This software was automatically installed on Windows desktop computers when customers tried to play the CDs. The software interferes with the normal way in which the Microsoft Windows operating system plays CDs by installing a rootkit which creates vulnerabilities for other malware to exploit. This was discovered and publicly revealed by Mark Russinovich on the Sysinternals blog. Other operating systems were not affected.

    As a result, a number of parties have filed lawsuits against Sony BMG; the company ended up recalling all the affected CDs; and greater public attention was drawn to the issue of commercially backed spyware and rootkits. Additionally, further investigation revealed that Sony had created its copyright protection software, in part, using LAME code, violating the GNU Lesser General Public License,[3] and VLC code written by Jon Lech Johansen and Sam Hocevar, violating the GNU General Public License[citation needed].
    "I wonder what type of copy protection will come next?" one posting on alt.music.prince read. "Maybe they'll ban markers."

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    In May of 1975, a proud Japanese company unveiled the world's first home video cassette recorder. With a TV monitor at their sides, executives of Sony Corp. popped a small cassette into their new SL-6300 VCR, pressed a button and launched a revolution.
    The world of personal entertainment was never the same. With that single invention, Sony changed the way we watch TV, the way we look at movies, the way we schedule our evening hours. Even the name that Sony gave to its device" -- Betamax," with its first and second syllables suggesting something both old and new -- blended into the language of the '70s as the generic term for video recorder.
    It is a bitter irony, then, that the Beta format is about to disappear into the attic of history. After denying rumors for weeks, and after its last ally abandoned it in the marketing war with the competing VHS format, Sony announced that it was giving up the fight and would be selling its own VHS recorders soon.
    Sony's spokesmen insisted that Beta is not dead, but everyone else in the industry believes they know better. By joining its rivals in the VHS camp, Sony is admitting that Beta couldn't make it in the marketplace.
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    In some ways, Sony itself is to blame for the decline and fall of Beta VCRs. Unlike its rivals, who advertised and promoted VHS recorders in every possible way, Sony cut back on the promotion of Beta recorders once they were selling well. When Sony introduced a new VCR format, the tiny 8mm system, it canceled nearly all of its Beta advertising.
    The result? A weak 8mm market (only 30 percent of all recorders are 8mm types) and a dead market for Beta.
    Sony also failed to recognize that many consumers buy such items as VCRs on impulse. They stroll through a store looking for one thing and end up buying something else. VHS manufacturers knew that principle well, and made sure that VHS recorders were sold in many different types of stores -- even supermarkets. Consumers who paced the aisles looking for dog food or mustard could end up walking out with a VCR.
    It is easy to imagine a different scenario. Beta has at least four solid advantages compared with VHS: The picture is a bit sharper, the tape-winding mechanism can switch quickly from one mode to another, the cassettes are small enough to carry in a coat pocket or purse, and the hi-fi sound tracks don't cause any problems for high-speed duplication.
    Yet only one of those advantages was regularly mentioned in Sony's ads-when they ran. The company fell back on word-of-mouth advertising, and when it comes to that kind of promotion, as the saying goes, they got what they paid for.
    In the 13 years since Sony's first Betamax lit up the TV screen in Tokyo, 170 million VCRs have been sold around the world. Only 20 million have been Beta. That's only 12 percent.
    At Beta's peak, other companies besides Sony were making Beta VCRs. They included Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Zenith, Radio Shack and Aiwa. One by one they fell away. The defection of Aiwa, the last to go, was especially painful for Sony, since Aiwa is one of its own subsidiaries.
    On the bright side is the possibility that Sony will inject new competition into VHS development. If Sony decides to make Super VHS recorders -- a move that Sony is denying at the moment -- it could help push the quality higher and the prices lower. It could also help establish Super VHS, which has a broadcast-quality picture, as the new standard home video format.
    It's possible that Sony will struggle on for another year or two making both Beta and VHS VCRs, but it's not likely. Areas where Beta is still popular, such as South America and the Philippines, will need new Beta VCRs for many months to come, but Sony cannot expect to support itself on those markets.
    What counts to Sony is the money it has lost in the VCR wars. Whether it can take a significant share of the already crowded VHS market is unclear. but with its reputation for quality and service, Sony has a head start already.


    I didn't even bother getting into how they design their systems to overheat. PSX, I had to buy 4. PS2, had to buy 2. PS3, I bought one and said screw it. Three strikes you out, not to mention all the stuff previously listed. They are an underhanded company, unfortunately they make some decent games, but not decent enough to keep putting up with their bs.

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