What's your opinion on collecting sealed games or collecting for the sake of collecting

[LimitedEditionMuseum]

Why do you have to have control over a situation to have an opinion about it? I can have an opinion on anything and I think VGA collectors and sealed game collectors are foolish.

You also have to realize that people who collect stamps might think collecting video games of any type is foolish. The only thing that bothers me about game collecting is how some collectors really lie about how little they paid for certain things.

[needler420]

Can I put this in my sig?

This should be the quote on the box for King of Kong.

Sure can. I'd be honored to be in a sig about Billy Mitchell.

You also have to realize that people who collect stamps might think collecting video games of any type is foolish. The only thing that bothers me about game collecting is how some collectors really lie about how little they paid for certain things.

What's worse then that imo is when they lie about beating a game or in game achievement or lie about a high score etc. I've seen my fair share of grown people who won't only lie about it for whatever reason some of them even go out the way to hack PS3 trophies and xbox achievements.

A good example is in the movies with Billy Mitchell someone lies about beating his official score and it gets accepted. Years later the truth is revleaed and Billy is crowned the record holder again. The person that lies about it was a blue collar married middle aged man. The least type of person you'd expect to do something like that.

[bb_hood]

What's worse then that imo is when they lie about beating a game or in game achievement or lie about a high score etc. I've seen my fair share of grown people who won't only lie about it for whatever reason some of them even go out the way to hack PS3 trophies and xbox achievements.

And this bothers you why???
If you are such a hardcore gamer, why the hell do you care what other people collect, or that other people lie about high scores. Id think a true 'hardcore gamer' would shut the fuck up and play video games instead of whining about others..

[needler420]

And this bothers you why???
If you are such a hardcore gamer, why the hell do you care what other people collect, or that other people lie about high scores. Id think a true 'hardcore gamer' would shut the fuck up and play video games instead of whining about others..

Maybe you lie about what you play also just like that middle aged man that tried to lie about beating Billy Mitchells score on pac-man.

I mean how is the standard for being a hardcore gamer to STFU? At least try to make a practical realistic standard for being a hardcore gamer instead of coming off so butthurt.


And for the record I care a whole lot when people lie about scores and it affects leaderboards and tournaments and contests and even in Billy Mitchells case it affects the stealing of his title of "hardcore" I have integrity when it comes to my hobby. Nowadays with major league gaming cheating can be a serious thing for some people.

[bb_hood]

lol you're one of those people I talk about. I seen your kingsfield collection.

What? I dont even know what kingsfield is. You've never seen my collection, I don't collect sealed games. Im not hurt, I just think your opinion is retarded.

[bb_hood]

And for the record I care a whole lot when people lie about scores and it affects leaderboards and tournaments and contests and even in Billy Mitchells case it affects the stealing of his title of "hardcore" I have integrity when it comes to my hobby.

Why dont you just marry Billy Mitchell already, I think you two will make a great couple

[gameofyou]

People may collect sealed games because they appreciate the artwork on the boxes. Or they may collect sealed games as an investment. Or maybe a combination of both. It doesn't bother me a bit. Its actually a little hard to believe that anyone would be bothered by it.

[needler420]

People may collect sealed games because they appreciate the artwork on the boxes. Or they may collect sealed games as an investment. Or maybe a combination of both. It doesn't bother me a bit. Its actually a little hard to believe that anyone would be bothered by it.

I'm not bothered by it unless like others stated it directly affects me. Such as play Canada with Ni No kuni. I find it how funny how hypocritical some of you are. You'll make bashing comments about the VGA and it's fundamentals in the thread VGA reaches a new low. But on sealed games some of you are hypocrites.

The only time it would bother me is when collectors inflate the price. Specially on retro games where it's not like you even get a chance to get it from the start. The market is heavily influenced by collectors.

[Polygon]

I honestly think that collecting anything and not using it as intended is stupid. That's just my opinion. In the end, I couldn't care less if someone wants to collect video games just to look at them. If that makes them happy, so be it.

[spman]

Can someone explain to me what the purpose is of buying sealed games for 3DS, XBox 360, PS3, etc. that are still available new in stores, getting them graded as a VGA 10, and then trying to sell them for hundreds of dollars on eBay? No shit your copy of Ocarina of Time 3D is VGA 10, so is every single copy sitting on the shelf at Target, what makes yours so special?

[Bojay1997]

Can someone explain to me what the purpose is of buying sealed games for 3DS, XBox 360, PS3, etc. that are still available new in stores, getting them graded as a VGA 10, and then trying to sell them for hundreds of dollars on eBay? No shit your copy of Ocarina of Time 3D is VGA 10, so is every single copy sitting on the shelf at Target, what makes yours so special?

I don't have any graded games, nor do I want any, but most retail games new in the box are not a VGA100. Shelf wear, damage from handling in shipping or at retail and manufacturing defects result in many modern games only being 85 or so. My understanding is that there is a subset of VGA collectors looking for truly perfect copies and thus are willing to pay for a VGA 95 or 100 grade.

[jonebone]

Current Generation on a store shelf is probably 90 to 90+ to the untrained eye, and could be worst if there are store stickers or heavy scuffing. I'd say 95 is the bottom of acceptable grades on the current gen and 95+ and up are extremely nice copies.

But back on topic, where do CIB collectors who want sealed copies of their favorites fit in? Why am I not allowed to do that? I have a CIB copy available if I ever feel the need to play, and a sealed copy that shows my dedication to the series.

I get tired of the stupid stereotypes that cart collectors are gamers and that sealed collectors are pure collectors who don't care about gaming. Both sets have plenty of overlap.

And besides, you think the people with 1500+ carts are playing those everyday? You can only play games so often once you have adult responsibilities like a job, a wife, a home, kids, family, etc. My "hardcore gaming" days died long ago and I'm okay with that... it's a byproduct of growing up.

[SOL BADGUY]

I dont have a problem with people who collect to collect, even if they buy a sealed game so they can have it to be worth more in the future, thats a nice little investment maybe. Theres emulation so by keep these games locked away from being played it isnt like youre robbing someone else of ever experiencing it. They should call themselves hardcore game collectors, not gamer if they dont play games.

[wiggyx]

I know how this community feels about the VGA and the process and was wondering what do you think of people who collect sealed games or collect knowing that they will never play the games as there isn't enough time.

It seems some of these collectors play a game of commercialism rather then actually playing the video games themselves. Like it's become a bragging hobby. Who ever has the most income and the most disposable with the rarest and best stuff wins.

I bought this up because I seen a post from another site where someone had about 300 or so PSP games and half of them were sealed. The part that was stupid to me IMO was that person said he probably was never going to open them or play them.

That persons theory was I shouldn't care how someone else spends their money. Which is true. I went on to explain the silly concept about his collecting habits but someone is going to do what they want with their own money, I get that. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks this concept is stupid like me.

People nowadays shop for video games more then they are playing them. Then they play pac-man for one hour a week and call themselves a hardcore gamer just beacuse they own a lot of video games.


IMO a hardcore gamer is the dude that comes to your house and plays one of your sealed games that's sitting on your shelf for years. Neither person have played the game before. And the person who owns the game gets their ass kicked by someone who's never even heard of the game. That guy that beats your high score 10/10 times and you can never beat his score or beat him in a particular game. That is the hardcore gamer to me.

When I think "hardcore" I think Billy Mitchell and hot sauce. Not some guy with a good income that can afford to buy a lot of games they are never going to play.

You mean the rant on CAG that got you a nice little vacation from the site?

The part that is stupid to me is that you make it your mission to give people a hard time about their business practices, collecting habits, etc.

Is this all you do? Bitch and moan? I can't imagine many of us here care what you think qualifies someone as a "hardcore gamer".


With that out of the way, I collect more than play. I do not collect NIB, and I do not collect as a financial investment. I buy games that I like or want to have as part of my collection and with the intention of at least trying them at some point. I often have groups of friends over who are a mix of casual gamers, serious gamers, and not-so-much gamers all at one time. It's nice to have a backlog of stuff that's new to all of us so that everyone can participate and hopefully have fun. Plus, collecting games can be the hobby in itself, not unlike collecting comics or coins. Obviously games can do more than just sit on a shelf, but that doesn't mean that collecting just for the sake of collecting is intrinsically bad. The only time "collectors" bother me is when they grab up multiple copies of new, harder to find items with the sole intent of resale. That sort of thing just makes it tougher for others who want those games to attain them at or near to MSRP, which is lame IMO.

[Dashopepper]

I used to collect marble eggs, as in the rocks shaped like eggs and polished. I'm pretty sure whatever I do with my video games it is better than that.

[ZP3]

If I were to encounter a sealed game in the wild, heck yes I would buy it, most likely never opening it. However that said, I would never go out of my way and spend hundreds of dollars on a sealed game.

[Spartan]

I personally don't collect sealed games. I don't think it's stupid though, it's just not my style. I collect a bit more than I can play at any given time but I have the intentions to play them always. I think the act of collecting in general can be a good thing for one's soul. It gives you hope, satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment which is good on any level. It can also +Crit your wallet and become a potential problematic habit. If one was to collect in moderation and keep all priorities aligned I wouldn't see a single thing wrong with it. The only evil I see is when collectors get their sealed copies graded and sell them at astronomical prices. If you've got a sealed copy to sell, great sell at or slightly above market value. Don't grade games just for the sake of gouging others. There are people out there that just want to play that thing.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

When it comes to hobbies that don't cause anybody any type of physical/emotional harm, people have the right to do whatever they want with their money and whatever they want with what they spend their money on.

If somebody wants to own a complete new/sealed PSP collection as a "goal" or a "grail" of their personal collecting habits/hobbies, who the hell am I to judge that?

[ZP3]

When it comes to hobbies that don't cause anybody any type of physical/emotional harm, people have the right to do whatever they want with their money and whatever they want with what they spend their money on.

If somebody wants to own a complete new/sealed PSP collection as a "goal" or a "grail" of their personal collecting habits/hobbies, who the hell am I to judge that?

Preach it, brother!

[understatement]

If I was a tween, teen, or twenty something in collage I would agree with you but now that I have a life outside of playing games I just don’t have the time to be what you call a “hardcore gamer” I get to play maybe 30 minutes on weekdays and an hour or two on the weekend. I don’t want to just drop video games though as they were such a major part of my childhood. So now I mostly collect, most of my newer games are sealed and probably won’t get opened due to time and a lot of my older stuff probably won’t get played either. The newer stuff is mostly genres or series I loved as a kid if I get time I’ll open something and play it, until then why should I open it? Most of the older stuff is for nostalgia a lot of it I’ve played in the past but for my favorite systems I would like a complete set of games and I doubt I’ll play most of them but if I have some time I can.

As for sealed VGA games I’ve never understood why people get so uppity about it. I mean would you really open a sealed game that’s more than 20 years old? If not, why does it bother you when people slab them there not going to be opened anyway so what’s the deference to you? With the newer games it’s even more boggling why people get upset, just go out and get one if there still in stores why worry about it? Before you say it raises the price I don’t really think that’s completely true it makes it harder for people to list for a good price but it doesn’t raise it anymore than what someone is willing to pay.