Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Atari 2600 Trak Ball Games

  1. #1
    Peach (Level 3)
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Providence RI
    Posts
    749
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default Atari 2600 Trak Ball Games

    Anyone know which games will work with the Trak Ball? I noticed AtariAge sells a Missile Command cart with Trak Ball support, so I'm assuming it can't just be used on *any* title...?

  2. #2
    Ladd Spencer (Level 17) Sniderman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    9,319
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    See, this confuses me. The Atari Trakball was compatible with any game that normally used a joystick or paddle. You flipped a little switch on it and it could be used for either. I do remember playing Missile Command with it before Thomas' hack, so I'm a bit befuddled. (I also remember playing Kaboom with it too. That also sucked. But Crystal castles was AWESOME.)
    Still Around...Still Gamin'...

  3. #3
    Peach (Level 3)
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Providence RI
    Posts
    749
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Now I'm really confused.

  4. #4
    Great Puma (Level 12) NE146's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    4,879
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    The deal is, the trackball COULD normally be used for any 2600 game (which is how you played it with Missile Command Sniderman). But basically all it was doing was sending the digital signal with the 8 directions as if it were a joystick.. i.e. if your roll up, it's just like holding the joystick up. roll up and to the left, it's like holding the joystick diagonally left. It worked great.. but the deal is though that there was no real ANALOG control.

    Now what Thomas' Missile Command-trackball hack does (correct me if I'm wrong), is add true analog support. So in other words, you can control the SPEED of the cursor movement with the trackball. So spin slowly, you move slowly, spin fast, you move fast. Also this allows for more directional control rather than the standard 8 directions. I could be wrong on this but that is my understanding.

    Anyway, here's an old thread I had along these same lines:

    http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14391

  5. #5
    Ladd Spencer (Level 17) Sniderman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    9,319
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Ah. That DOES clear it up. Thanks NE1. I *knew* I wasn't insane.
    Still Around...Still Gamin'...

  6. #6
    Peach (Level 3)
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Providence RI
    Posts
    749
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Thanks for the help, guys.

  7. #7
    Crono (Level 14)
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    6,077
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    The main ones I remember using it for were centipede and (I think) millipede.
    Seeking display quality copy of I Want My Mommy for the 2600... if you have one, PM me, I will pay/trade well.

  8. #8
    Insert Coin (Level 0)
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Düsseldorf, Germany
    Posts
    98
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NE146
    I could be wrong on this but that is my understanding.
    No, you are absolutely correct.

    And the MCTB hack is the only 2600 game that supports the "real" TrakBall mode.
    Have Fun!
    Thomas

    Infogrames is not Atari!

  9. #9
    Crono (Level 14) Pantechnicon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Alburquerque
    Posts
    6,711
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Xbox LIVE
    Zeno2112

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NE146
    The deal is, the trackball COULD normally be used for any 2600 game (which is how you played it with Missile Command Sniderman). But basically all it was doing was sending the digital signal with the 8 directions as if it were a joystick.. i.e. if your roll up, it's just like holding the joystick up. roll up and to the left, it's like holding the joystick diagonally left. It worked great.. but the deal is though that there was no real ANALOG control.
    That's good information. I never really thought about it that way. This probably accounts for why I generally despise playing games with my Atari trackball controller.

    Actually I've never been very good at any trackball game, analog or no. My first exposure to Missile Command, for example, was on the 2600 with a joystick. For me, the stick stuck, so to speak and whenever I've tried to play MC on a coin-op with a trackball it usually ends in frustration and a miserable score. Ditto for Centipede. I have to grant an exception for Crystal Castles. That game is properly played with a trackball and I can't see it any other way.

    I imagine that the like-minded anti-trackball contingent is a minority in this forum, but "to thine own self be true".

  10. #10
    Great Puma (Level 12)
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    4,119
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    Anybody who likes trackball games ought to pick up Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Atari Collection 1, AGH:AC2, and a Nyko Trackball for your Playstation some day and give those old Atari trackball classics another chance. The emulation is pretty much spot on, and the trackball works the way it was intended to.

    I had always suspected that the 2600 trackball didn't give true trackball control, but merely emulated an 8-way joystick. The 2600 Missile Command hack sounds cool, though.
    (\ /)
    (O.o) ---XBL GT: RHINDLE
    (><)
    /_|_\ ---PH34R TEH BUNNY

  11. #11
    Key (Level 9) RJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Oakdale MN
    Posts
    1,968
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    If you can find it, an old "catalog" of Atari 2600/5200 games which was silver & unfolded into a giant movie ticket showed what games were playable (in their opinion) w/ the trackball. After the description it had a special symbol, kinda looked like a tiny Death Star.

    Actually you can find it at Atariage.com under catalogs.
    "The big things that...nerds like to argue about might not actually matter that much."

  12. #12
    Insert Coin (Level 0)
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    South Burlington, Vermont
    Posts
    70
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Default

    As far as I know, it works best on shooters like Megamania, Space Invaders, Asteroids and so on.

    However, I don't recommend it for games that don't involve rapid movement from side to side.
    Peace, Love and Atari!

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-25-2012, 02:42 PM
  2. FS: Atari 5200 Trak-Ball NEW, Atari Players Jacket
    By zektor in forum Buying and Selling
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-21-2008, 06:27 PM
  3. FS:Atari 5200 Trak Ball Boxed
    By tommykrash in forum Buying and Selling
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-06-2007, 12:38 PM
  4. 2 different atari 2600 trak-ball controllers??
    By GrandAmChandler in forum Classic Gaming
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-26-2003, 07:57 PM
  5. FA: X-Com UFO Defense Sealed Trak-Ball, NES,Genny, PSX games
    By buttasuperb in forum Buying and Selling
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-21-2002, 04:53 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •