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    Can anyone post links or images to legit Final Fantasy 3/6 soundtracks? I found a bunch on eBay, but I have a feeling that most of them are fake. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel923
    Can anyone post links or images to legit Final Fantasy 3/6 soundtracks? I found a bunch on eBay, but I have a feeling that most of them are fake. Thanks.
    Here's some info from Chudah's Clicky

    You may want to just ask the seller what company released the CD, that's what I usually do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VACRMH View Post
    You may want to just ask the seller what company released the CD, that's what I usually do.
    That's the smartest way to go about it, just asking for more information. That way no one is accusing anyone of anything and you'll get a straight answer. Great tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    Yeah, but they're not THAT high. Your prices are overinflated compared to the real market values. You try to squeeze good deals out of the fans on marketplace forums by giving offers so low that they're insulting, and then you try to immediately sell back the same albums to the same communities with a ridiculous price inflation.

    It's bad enough to see you constantly hawking your goods at SoundtrackCentral and Chudah's Corner, but now I gotta put up with it here too? :/ You could at least make some attempt to be a real member with posts that actually contribute to discussions, but so far, 99% of your posts are for advertisement purposes. And while you can get away with it in the forums intended for advertising, at the very least, have the decency to not crap up this forum and other discussion forums with that stuff.

    I apologize to everyone for getting off-topic and ranting. I just don't want anyone falling sucker to her misleading advertising and ridiculous prices.
    you don't have to like prices, that's your right.
    but while you complain, I actually have been selling game music for a long time, and people are extremely pleased with my service.
    I do offer legit, authentic products from Japan.
    I don't remember when I bought something off the soundtrack forums, I'm selling soundtracks imported from Japan so prices are higher.
    you're a complete jerk, I'm always helping people identifying legit soundtracks and many comes to me, just so I can help them with various game music problems.
    you're the one who doesn't actually do a single thing for the community, so get lost and stop ranting.
    better try to kick pirate sellers like custom-specialists(who record cd's and then claim they are the real thing) off of ebay.
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    I have a soundtrack from the first kingdom hearts...looks pretty darn legit..can anyone tell me who did the soundtrack...mine is from Alion, but it seriously looks like any legit cd ive ever owned... and my kingdom hearts 2 soundtrack is from miya records... can anyone tell me? im pretty sure the kh 1 is a pirate...considering it doesnt say squaresoft of square enix ANYWHERE on it or in the book..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewindera7xo7 View Post
    I have a soundtrack from the first kingdom hearts...looks pretty darn legit..can anyone tell me who did the soundtrack...mine is from Alion, but it seriously looks like any legit cd ive ever owned... and my kingdom hearts 2 soundtrack is from miya records... can anyone tell me? im pretty sure the kh 1 is a pirate...considering it doesnt say squaresoft of square enix ANYWHERE on it or in the book..
    They are both bootlegs. These are originals you can compare them to:
    http://otaku.com/cgi-bin/itemview.asp?itemid=59944f
    http://otaku.com/cgi-bin/itemview.asp?itemid=68246e


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    there is also European Kingdom Hearts OST release which is of course legit, you can even buy it at your local fry's electronics(some of them are still carrying it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess-Isabela View Post
    you don't have to like prices, that's your right.
    but while you complain, I actually have been selling game music for a long time, and people are extremely pleased with my service.
    I do offer legit, authentic products from Japan.
    I don't remember when I bought something off the soundtrack forums, I'm selling soundtracks imported from Japan so prices are higher.
    you're a complete jerk, I'm always helping people identifying legit soundtracks and many comes to me, just so I can help them with various game music problems.
    you're the one who doesn't actually do a single thing for the community, so get lost and stop ranting.
    better try to kick pirate sellers like custom-specialists(who record cd's and then claim they are the real thing) off of ebay.
    I would get the pirate sellers off of eBay if I could, but eBay doesn't care enough to listen to my complaints or anyone else's.

    So instead I try to help my fellow video game music fans by steering them away from those sellers, and that's what I'm doing here too. You can call me a jerk if you want, but I'm not aiming to be nice; I'm trying to warn the people who may not be as well-versed in soundtrack values and rarities as fans on music-focused communities, so I was never specifically looking for a response from you with my prior post.

    If people don't want to listen to me, they can check out these topics and decide for themselves:

    http://www.altpop.com/stc/forums/viewtopic.php?id=549
    http://www.altpop.com/stc/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1483

    Everything I claimed is backed up by many other people, and most of those people are also pillars of the soundtrack collecting community. The matter may not be as black and white as someone selling pirates, but clearly there are plenty of people unhappy with your business practices and possessing a view that you're leeching off of the video game music community.

    And finally, saying I don't do a single thing for the community is a silly thing to say, especially when you don't even know who the heck I am.

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    if you do want to know, many people of these aforementioned boards apologized personally for their behavior after hearing what kind of service I'm providing.
    the problem with you is you don't even know who I am as well and what I do for VGM community, you do seem unpolite because you've never dealt with me and you're backing your arguments off some silly posts which were written by the very same people who admitted were doing the same thing for a period of time - reselling with a profit, there is nothing wrong with that as long you're selling genuine items and let people know what they're getting) .
    are you a bootlegger from ebay by any chance?
    few people who read your post suggested it.
    highly unlikely, but your attitude does seem a little peculiar, that's for sure.
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    Uh, what? First of all, if you're so concerned with what I say, why does it take you over half a year to reply?

    Who on earth would think I'm a bootlegger? What could possibly give anyone that impression?

    If you don't like what I think and say, fine; to some people, business is just business. I apply some morals to how I view and conduct business, however, and I think you take advantage of your own fellow collectors. You're in the same group of people that try to convince someone new to collecting older games that a Super Mario Bros. cart is "MEGA R@RE" and worth 20 bucks. Except those sellers tend to get their copies of Super Mario Bros. at thrift stores and what have you. You weasel your items out of the same community that's collecting it. You'll go to fan communities, where people just want to trade and sell their unwanted stuff to other people that would appreciate it, and you try to snap up every reasonable or low-priced soundtrack you can find before anybody else can get to it just so you can throw it up on eBay and set a Buy It Now several times what it's actually worth and wait until a sucker comes along and buys it.

    Going back to the Super Mario Bros. analogy, what you do would be like not only selling Super Mario Bros. to a sucker for $20 but ALSO combing the Digital Press Marketplace forum for every cheap copy you can find to supply your selling habits, leaving no fair prices for the fans just looking to collect by buying and selling among each other.

    I know the buying to resell game very well, since I do it myself, but I apply some standards to how I practice. I buy my items from thrift stores and pawn shops and what have you, not fan forums, and when I list them for sale, I check completed auctions on eBay to find a fair price based on what people have already been paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess-Isabela View Post
    if you do want to know, many people of these aforementioned boards apologized personally for their behavior after hearing what kind of service I'm providing.
    the problem with you is you don't even know who I am as well and what I do for VGM community, you do seem unpolite because you've never dealt with me and you're backing your arguments off some silly posts which were written by the very same people who admitted were doing the same thing for a period of time - reselling with a profit, there is nothing wrong with that as long you're selling genuine items and let people know what they're getting) .
    are you a bootlegger from ebay by any chance?
    few people who read your post suggested it.
    highly unlikely, but your attitude does seem a little peculiar, that's for sure.
    Aussie2B a bootlegger? That's the funniest thing I have heard all day. It's too bad it wasn't meant to be a joke.

    She is/was just trying to let people know that your prices are often higher than what most would call reasonable. That's doing something for the community.

    You got a plug in for your sales, she got one in against them. I don't see a problem, it seems fair to me. She isn't accusing you of being a scammer or anything you are not. Especially considering most would probably agree with her sentiments regarding your prices. I know I do.

    That conkers soundtrack for $180? I saw one, yes the same one in the same condition, sell for something like $10 recently.

    $80 Mario Tennis CD? A bunch are going for $5-$10 each on yahoo japan.

    $130 Paper Mario OST? $30 "Buy-it-now" on yahoo japan

    $100 Majora's Mask OST? Again, plenty on Yahoo Japan for less: $12, $15 ($30 BIN)



    Those are pretty exorbitant I would say. And before you even think of mentioning deputy fees and stuff for buying from yahoo japan, know this. Even after all of that, you would still be paying a ton less than your prices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectorman0 View Post
    Aussie2B a bootlegger? That's the funniest thing I have heard all day. It's too bad it wasn't meant to be a joke.

    She is/was just trying to let people know that your prices are often higher than what most would call reasonable. That's doing something for the community.

    You got a plug in for your sales, she got one in against them. I don't see a problem, it seems fair to me. She isn't accusing you of being a scammer or anything you are not. Especially considering most would probably agree with her sentiments regarding your prices. I know I do.

    That conkers soundtrack for $180? I saw one, yes the same one in the same condition, sell for something like $10 recently.

    $80 Mario Tennis CD? A bunch are going for $5-$10 each on yahoo japan.

    $130 Paper Mario OST? $30 "Buy-it-now" on yahoo japan

    $100 Majora's Mask OST? Again, plenty on Yahoo Japan for less: $12, $15 ($30 BIN)



    Those are pretty exorbitant I would say. And before you even think of mentioning deputy fees and stuff for buying from yahoo japan, know this. Even after all of that, you would still be paying a ton less than your prices.
    @ aussie person - I'm not browsing these forums frequently, only on occasion, so my response was submitted once spotted.
    @ vectorman - well you're mentioning ost's that are now on Yahoo Japan, but I bought them when they were expensive and thus naturally I try to get some of invested $ back.
    as for Conker OST, can you give me link to auction ended @ $10?
    I'm one of the US sellers still providing genuine Game Soundtracks, many others gone out of business because it wasn't worth their time/profitable enough.
    Game Soundtracks market is states is very weak compared to Japan.
    ebay is flooded with bootlegs(about 5% of them are authentic).
    check my other prices on soundtracks/games, they are very fair, we live in states and prices are naturally higher.
    what I don't understand that there are some real losers getting hostile like crazy just because they don't like some of the prices.
    there are many people who are selling their stuff at very high prices, I do not go on message boards and keep hijacking their sales, so much about immorality.
    be polite and state your issues with the sales if you have to, - be mature about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess-Isabela View Post
    @ aussie person - I'm not browsing these forums frequently, only on occasion, so my response was submitted once spotted.
    @ vectorman - well you're mentioning ost's that are now on Yahoo Japan, but I bought them when they were expensive and thus naturally I try to get some of invested $ back.
    as for Conker OST, can you give me link to auction ended @ $10?
    I'm one of the US sellers still providing genuine Game Soundtracks, many others gone out of business because it wasn't worth their time/profitable enough.
    Game Soundtracks market is states is very weak compared to Japan.
    ebay is flooded with bootlegs(about 5% of them are authentic).
    check my other prices on soundtracks/games, they are very fair, we live in states and prices are naturally higher.
    what I don't understand that there are some real losers getting hostile like crazy just because they don't like some of the prices.
    there are many people who are selling their stuff at very high prices, I do not go on message boards and keep hijacking their sales, so much about immorality.
    be polite and state your issues with the sales if you have to, - be mature about it.
    The Conker OST changed hands at a game convention I went to. I think it was actually purchased with like 10 game promo shirts for $30, and the soundtrack was thrown in for free. I can get the specifics if you really want. I remember hearing from the seller it was like a $50 soundtrack, but he didn't really care.

    Also, my previous post was probably as mature and polite as you could ever hope for on an internet forum, without me holding back what I actually think. It wasn't meant to be mean, just point out that some of your prices are pretty crazy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess-Isabela View Post
    there are many people who are selling their stuff at very high prices, I do not go on message boards and keep hijacking their sales, so much about immorality.
    All I have to say about that is that this forum isn't for plugging your sales in the first place, so there's no "hijacking" going on. I mean, if you made a "for sale" topic in the Marketplace forum, I'm smart enough to not reply to the thread with "your prices are too high" or such, but this topic and this Import forum exist for sharing information. As far as I'm concerned, it's fair game for discussions of who people should and shouldn't buy from. I'm sure other people's information has helped me in my shopping, so I'm always willing to help steer other game/soundtrack collectors toward good deals and away from what I consider rip-offs.

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    wow. talk about a train wreck conversation!

    back on topic, so far the only game soundtracks i've got are all legit ones. i'd like more but it's so rare that i even want to hear the music from a game. often times, even if i like something the particular song or background music wont even be on it. the jet set radio has been a favorite of mine though. wish i could have got the one for phantasy star online when it was first released.

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    I take it you've been buying US releases? Yeah, they usually are "best of" soundtracks, which invariably results in good tracks being left off. Japanese soundtracks are almost always complete, though, even down to the little jingles and fanfares and other bits and pieces that most people couldn't care less about. I'd guess about 20% of the Ocarina of Time soundtrack consists of tracks that are under 10 seconds a piece. :P

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    A question I don't believe has been pondered yet is this: What's the difference between buying a pirated copy of a soundtrack and using a computer program to rip the soundtrack from the game rom itself? Not to mention that the roms themselves are technically illegal.

    As for me, I don't think any of my soundtracks are pirates, but if I found one in my (rather small) collection I doubt I'd get too mad. Sure, it's still a ripoff no matter how you look at it, but if it's bought it's bought. Especially if you got it off of eBay. I agree that they really seem to care less, considering how many pirated soundtracks get sold. Just think of how much revenue that generates for eBay. The sellers, after all, pay a percentage to eBay, so I can easily imagine them just silently "overlooking" some things while cracking down on others to keep their image looking good.

    On a side note, I tend to find pirated/unlicenced *games* (Sachen!) somewhat interesting, from a hardware perspective anyway. Doesn't mean I condone them, but they're still interesting nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narifia View Post
    A question I don't believe has been pondered yet is this: What's the difference between buying a pirated copy of a soundtrack and using a computer program to rip the soundtrack from the game rom itself? Not to mention that the roms themselves are technically illegal.
    It would be better to start with correct assumptions, which these aren't.

    - Pirated soundtracks are not usually the consumer's fault. The existence of this thread shows that we take care to avoid them. A few years back people would probably have jumped at the counterfeit Tommy Hilfiger shirt on the basis of a lower price, but might not have been so pleased when it fell apart.

    - ROMs are or aren't illegal, depending on the circumstances. I can make a bootleg game on which the ROMs are of course illegal. Downloading images of game data for a copyrighted title may well be illegal.

    To answer your question: if the game's copyrighted, ripping music out of the ROMs is probably not one of your privileges as a user. The copyright holder can say "sure, you can make MP3s out of my game music," but this rarely happens.

    More random thoughts (may or may not be wholly correct):
    Many PC games store their music as Winamp-compatible MP3s (and, increasingly, OGG) that are either in an easily browsed directory, or maybe in an easily opened data file (such as Valve's GCF) for which there are indeed legal - as far as I know - viewing tools used by mappers, modders, and curious people like myself.

    If move the music file from one part of the computer and put it elsewhere, you probably aren't afoul of any legal stuff, although the simple act of copying it might get you in trouble. The EULAs I've seen are generally "don't reverse compile our stuff" (which closes some doors), and "don't put it on another machine or medium," which you aren't.

    I suppose it'd be possible to create an insanely restrictive user agreement, but at some point consumer protections or anti-monopoly rules will be invoked.

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    Thanks for the answer! The question popped into my mind when I saw someone had mentioned he'd rather download the tracks than buy the bootlegs (page one I think).

    I actually noticed that about one of my PC games, namely my Age of Mythology game. Interesting to see that they'd leave their music so unprotected, save for the statements in the EULAs (which, as far as I know, most people never read all the way through).

    Getting back to the pirates, though. Honestly, I'd have to say I agree that ripping the songs from the ROMs for personal use are the lesser of the two evils when compared to buying a pirated bootleg. At least you're not spending money on a fake, and adding to the pockets of the pirates to boot. Still, I wouldn't do it unless the soundtrack in question were impossible to get any other way.

    Thanks to this thread I'm going to learn to do a little more research on an eBay (or other) import soundtrack purchase before I actually buy. If any of the ones I have now are fake though, I guess I'll just have to deal with it :\
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    just checked all the ones i am suspicious of. A little research and it appears I struck out 6/6.

    Miya Records x4
    SM Records x1
    K-O Records x1
    it's thinking

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