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    Default Sega Pico Variants

    http://www.gamegavel.com/item.cgi?show_item=958029

    I think I'm going to put a couple dozen dollars in & see if I win.
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    No one bid.
    I'm curious as to if he'll honor an exceptionally low price.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JSoup View Post
    No one bid.
    I'm curious as to if he'll honor an exceptionally low price.
    He has a reserve and makes it clear that he won't sell unless it's met. I'm guessing this is just another publicity stunt on his part. I can't imagine anyone buying 11,000 games without a comprehensive inventory or condition information all in one shot.

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    I see this auction as being a shill for Game Gavel. Why would someone who actually wants to sell something this high profile sell it on GameGavel, and not on Ebay? It makes no sense from a business side. The fact that he is giving away issues of Retro Gaming Magazine just screams direct involvement with SoCalMike. He probably set the reserve somewhere in the range of "too high for legit bidders" and "low enough that troll bids will get over that amount", to give it the appearance of "being sold". Lots of lazy news media have bit on such auctions in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSoup View Post
    No one bid.
    I'm curious as to if he'll honor an exceptionally low price.
    There's one bid on it now, according to the history it was placed at 9:42pm so a few minutes before you posted.

    The auction was just listed a few hours ago and has well over a week to go, it's going to get a lot of bids before it ends.

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    <SoCalMike> LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME

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    This is all this is. I will bet $1k that he will not sell his collection no matter what it ends at.

    I wonder how much money SoCalMike forked over to Thomasson to be able to do this, or if it was just a personal favor for the possibility of whoring out GameGavel/Retro to the mainstream.

    Since SoCalMike will be pushing hard to get this to mainstream media, try not to share it. Don't support this blatant attention whoring.

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    Uh, who's this guy again?

    No, really. Does he have a recognizable online handle like most other collectors (big and small) do?
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    Default or maybe...

    Or it could be that my mother's medical bills are over two grand a day and after Medicare and insurance pay their part it still leaves a $700 a day payment out of pocket. Maybe I want my wife to have nice things for once, want my daughter to go to a better school...
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    haha, is gamegavel still a thing?

    I used to listen to RetroGamingRoundUp before I realized how much of a dick SoCalMike is.

    every podcast would be like this:

    <vendor> Here's a copy of Contra Force for NES. It's a very rare game, I'll give you a good deal on it: $50.
    <SoCalMike> $50?! No way! I'll give you $5 for it.
    <vendor> No, I don't think so. This game is worth around $80.
    <SoCalMike> Okay, I'll give $10 for it.
    <vendor> Sir, didn't you just hear me? No.
    <SoCalMike> Okay, have a good day. (walks away) Man, that guy was overcharging like crazy!



    Shit like that made me want to strangle him through my ipod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojay1997 View Post
    He has a reserve and makes it clear that he won't sell unless it's met.
    I misread the auction when I first loaded it up, thought it said that the reserve was $1. Which made the whole thing look like bullshit in my mind.




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    You should just make a list of the games and take offers.

    Selling it all together would bring in way less than its worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    haha, is gamegavel still a thing?

    I used to listen to RetroGamingRoundUp before I realized how much of a dick SoCalMike is.

    every podcast would be like this:

    <vendor> Here's a copy of Contra Force for NES. It's a very rare game, I'll give you a good deal on it: $50.
    <SoCalMike> $50?! No way! I'll give you $5 for it.
    <vendor> No, I don't think so. This game is worth around $80.
    <SoCalMike> Okay, I'll give $10 for it.
    <vendor> Sir, didn't you just hear me? No.
    <SoCalMike> Okay, have a good day. (walks away) Man, that guy was overcharging like crazy!



    Shit like that made me want to strangle him through my ipod.
    And that is EXACTLY how he really is too! I had ONE, just ONE brush with him in the minutes before California Extreme opened one year and that was enough to sour me on anything he may be involved with. I've never come across anyone else with such a false sense of entitlement, to the point where he assumes that you already know that he's self-entitled, even if you don't know who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Thomasson View Post
    Or it could be that my mother's medical bills are over two grand a day and after Medicare and insurance pay their part it still leaves a $700 a day payment out of pocket. Maybe I want my wife to have nice things for once, want my daughter to go to a better school...
    You know, I am sorry to hear that, if that is the reasonsing for selling. But even you, after all these years in the collecting hobby, must know that your auction completely inadequate in every way. There is a lack of comprehensive listing of items, and it is posted on a little used independent auction site. And of course, the main problem is that by selling it wholesale, you are requiring that some rich guy is going to happen upon your auction and hand over what is likely to be a huge sum of money. So large that using an internet auction site is probably a bad idea from a legal point of view. If you are serious about selling this, you should be using a professional sellers service. You cannot blame the outside observer that sees this as being nothing more than a publicity stunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid View Post
    And that is EXACTLY how he really is too! I had ONE, just ONE brush with him in the minutes before California Extreme opened one year and that was enough to sour me on anything he may be involved with. I've never come across anyone else with such a false sense of entitlement, to the point where he assumes that you already know that he's self-entitled, even if you don't know who he is.
    I'm glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this. You hit the nail on the head when you said he has a false sense of entitlement. Throughout the podcasts, he constantly comes off as a giant prick, haggling sellers who are already offering deals and talking smack about people who got to things before him. He's the king of false entitlement.

    It's because of him that I absolutely HATE any _______ goes game hunting videos. I will NOT watch the gamechasers or anyone else in case they are anything like SoCalMike. I have no idea if the gamechasers are like him or not. I've never watched any of their videos and won't because they could be a whole group of SoCalMikes. I think I'm better off not knowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi_Matrix View Post
    It's because of him that I absolutely HATE any _______ goes game hunting videos. I will NOT watch the gamechasers or anyone else in case they are anything like SoCalMike. I have no idea if the gamechasers are like him or not. I've never watched any of their videos and won't because they could be a whole group of SoCalMikes. I think I'm better off not knowing.
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    For those of you that are questioning why I put the auction up on Game Gavel over other auction sites, here is the reasoning:

    Christie's wanted 30% and E-Bay about 15% when you take into account the money processing fees required through PayPal. Federal Tax 38% + New York tax 8.75% totals 46.75% - almost half. Now, add that to the auction fees and it leaves me with 24 cents on the dollar. This very well might be the only year in my life that I'll make more than 30k, so I needed to try and make the math work the best it could for my family.

    Kennedy at GameGavel has a $150 cap on auctions, and I was willing to take the bet that if someone or some organization was serious about making a bid, that they would take the extra steps to set up a GameGavel account. Even if it were to sell for less than it would on E-Bay, would it be that drastic of a difference? I suppose we'll find out...
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    Well good luck on the sale, in the end even Adol wound up not selling his stuff through ebay and sold directly to the Strong Museum probably avoiding a ton of fees.

    I enjoyed the article on you in GameInformer as well, it was neat to see that you stuck to a budget so strictly and were still able to amass such a full collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Thomasson View Post
    For those of you that are questioning why I put the auction up on Game Gavel over other auction sites, here is the reasoning:

    Christie's wanted 30% and E-Bay about 15% when you take into account the money processing fees required through PayPal. Federal Tax 38% + New York tax 8.75% totals 46.75% - almost half. Now, add that to the auction fees and it leaves me with 24 cents on the dollar. This very well might be the only year in my life that I'll make more than 30k, so I needed to try and make the math work the best it could for my family.

    Kennedy at GameGavel has a $150 cap on auctions, and I was willing to take the bet that if someone or some organization was serious about making a bid, that they would take the extra steps to set up a GameGavel account. Even if it were to sell for less than it would on E-Bay, would it be that drastic of a difference? I suppose we'll find out...
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    But I think you should avoid selling this through a site (ANY SITE, not just GG) and do it privately instead. You might get even less fees that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Thomasson View Post
    This very well might be the only year in my life that I'll make more than 30k, so I needed to try and make the math work the best it could for my family.
    You have the world record collection of video games.
    You have a family.
    You've never made more than 30K in one year.
    I feel there are some priority issues here that are only new being addressed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Thomasson View Post
    For those of you that are questioning why I put the auction up on Game Gavel over other auction sites, here is the reasoning:

    Christie's wanted 30% and E-Bay about 15% when you take into account the money processing fees required through PayPal. Federal Tax 38% + New York tax 8.75% totals 46.75% - almost half. Now, add that to the auction fees and it leaves me with 24 cents on the dollar. This very well might be the only year in my life that I'll make more than 30k, so I needed to try and make the math work the best it could for my family.

    Kennedy at GameGavel has a $150 cap on auctions, and I was willing to take the bet that if someone or some organization was serious about making a bid, that they would take the extra steps to set up a GameGavel account. Even if it were to sell for less than it would on E-Bay, would it be that drastic of a difference? I suppose we'll find out...
    You're concerned about fees yet you'll leave thousands on the table and alienating just about every buyer by selling in a giant lot? If you truly needed money for your family, you'd cut the rare titles off the top and work down. However, that won't draw attention like a large, already publicly mentioned, bulk lot.

    Seriously, it is absolutely transparent that you are not actually selling your collection and this is just a publicity stunt for you and SoCalMike.

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    It's also a pretty decent selling strategy as well. Garner attention for the entire collection, then take offers on individual units. Get the money and the attention.
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    I think this is also one of those cases where selling as a lot will actually make more money than selling as individual lots. I mean, aside from the complete 3DO, Sega Saturn and Sega CD sets, is there anything remarkable about this lot? Scanning through the list of games, I noted that the NES collection lacks common titles like Super Mario Bros 2 and 3, the Sega Genesis set is missing Sonic 3. There's a lot of filler in this collection. Just going off SNES stuff (233 games), you don't see common, but expensive games like Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 2 and 3, Yoshi's Island, etc. This collection is made up of a lot of common, inexpensive games (e.g. sports games, kids games) for a large number of systems, and is heavily weighted with games from consoles that are PS1 to present.

    Personally, I still see this as being a publicity stunt. If someone was buying this to resell, I could hardly see it being worth the time.
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    I think some of you are underestimating the value 'largest collection in the world' brings in terms of value. People will pay large premiums for status symbols. Certainly more then any single rare game is worth. Busting up the collection is foolish, when the collection itself, not the individual games in the collection , is the where the attraction lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Adventurer View Post
    Busting up the collection is foolish, when the collection itself, not the individual games in the collection , is the where the attraction lies.
    Depends on who you're selling to. Selling to collectors? Any with that kind of money to burn probably already has an established connection and, as badinsults pointed out, lots of common stuffs in there.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Adventurer View Post
    I think some of you are underestimating the value 'largest collection in the world' brings in terms of value. People will pay large premiums for status symbols. Certainly more then any single rare game is worth. Busting up the collection is foolish, when the collection itself, not the individual games in the collection , is the where the attraction lies.
    Calling this the worlds largest video game collection is dishonest at best. I'm sure that Joe Santulli and DreamTR, for instance, have thousands more unique games than this guy. Though like I said, this collection would be worth less if it was broken up, because there is a lot of filler. Don't get me wrong, having 11,000 games is highly impressive, and I can only imagine the amount of time and money required to acquire this. But is this collection worth as much as say, a complete, boxed NES collection? I very much doubt it.
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