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    For the Gamecube component crowd someone is working on it.

    http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51450
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    Quote Originally Posted by kai123 View Post
    For the Gamecube component crowd someone is working on it.

    http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51450
    I'm aware of that one, followed on gc-forever's forum. It's open source, but no one is making anything retail. You have to order the PCB, and wire everything yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupin View Post
    Wouldn't a Sony PVM with real RGB be better than this?
    yep.



    I've got a rgb to component transcoder, the Kramer FC-14. It will take analog RGB and convert it to component, but the thing that many people don't take into consideration, is that sometimes the resolution that these systems put out, can't be recognized by certain modern day HDTV's. I have a Samsung plasma that won't sync with certain old school resolutions.

    Also, sometimes the screen aspect ratio thing can be off a bit whenever you try to convert analog RGB to component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP2A03 View Post
    I just tried the zapper on my flat tube and it works perfectly, VSM on or not. It is a JVC I'Art AV-27F734.
    Well, I've tried a NES zapper and a Dreamcast light gun by Madcatz on my Samsung flat CRT. Neither work. That myth is no myth. Some flat screens are actually regular round screens with a flat glass in front of the tube. Are you sure that isn't the type you have?

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    I have a 27" flat screen SONY Trinitron. No problems with the NES Zapper, SMS Light Gun or my Saturn Stunner Guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by y9784 View Post
    Well, I've tried a NES zapper and a Dreamcast light gun by Madcatz on my Samsung flat CRT. Neither work. That myth is no myth. Some flat screens are actually regular round screens with a flat glass in front of the tube. Are you sure that isn't the type you have?
    My tube is indeed flat.

    Could you please give me the model of your TV and the effects of having VSM on and off. Also, are you connected directly to the TV? I am trying to compile a compatibility list. http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/sh...n-Support-List.


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    I have a 27" flat screen SONY Trinitron. No problems with the NES Zapper, SMS Light Gun or my Saturn Stunner Guns.

    Could we have details about your TV as well so that I may add it to my list?
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    Will Sega CD output work correctly with this cable? Don't see it mentioned on their site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_A View Post
    Will Sega CD output work correctly with this cable? Don't see it mentioned on their site.
    It should. Sega CD has no external video output, it's mixed inside the Genesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RP2A03 View Post
    Could we have details about your TV as well so that I may add it to my list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_importer View Post
    I need a model number in order to add it to the list. It is located on the back and will be something like KV-27FS13. Also, do you have VSM turned on? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RP2A03 View Post
    My tube is indeed flat.

    Could you please give me the model of your TV and the effects of having VSM on and off. Also, are you connected directly to the TV? I am trying to compile a compatibility list. http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/sh...n-Support-List.

    Could we have details about your TV as well so that I may add it to my list?
    That task of yours is daunting but worthy for those who want to hold onto or acquire these monsters.

    Samsung TSL2795HF 27" DynaFlat EDTV

    When playing, the systems were connected directly to the inputs on the back. No selector / switcher was used. NES went to composite. Dreamcast went to composite or s-video.

    As far as I know, there is no option for VSM. This is a really early 2000 TV and I don't believe that was even an option on most TVs then, but I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by y9784 View Post
    Samsung TSL2795HF 27" DynaFlat EDTV
    You have an EDTV, or enhanced definition television. These TVs display everything at 480p, and are just as incompatible with most light guns as HDTVs.
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    Default Touch decisions!

    I'm in for one but I can't decide which one. So choices for Sega Genesis are Model 1 or Model 2. If I get the model 1, I can't use my 32x. If I get the model 2, I can't use the SMS base converter. Right now I'm currently leaning more towards the model one, that way if my 32x takes a dive I can still use it. This "first world problem" is tough.

    Any opinions? I have about the same number of game for my 32x and SMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerhomer View Post
    I'm in for one but I can't decide which one. So choices for Sega Genesis are Model 1 or Model 2. If I get the model 1, I can't use my 32x. If I get the model 2, I can't use the SMS base converter. Right now I'm currently leaning more towards the model one, that way if my 32x takes a dive I can still use it. This "first world problem" is tough.

    Any opinions? I have about the same number of game for my 32x and SMS.
    32x works with model 1, and you can "mod" the PBC to work with the Model 2 by busting off the back plastic.

    Model 1 is the better model.

    ProTip: using a 32x with either model of Genesis will greatly improve the video out, as it uses its own superior video encoder even for Genesis games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerhomer View Post
    I'm in for one but I can't decide which one. So choices for Sega Genesis are Model 1 or Model 2. If I get the model 1, I can't use my 32x. If I get the model 2, I can't use the SMS base converter. Right now I'm currently leaning more towards the model one, that way if my 32x takes a dive I can still use it. This "first world problem" is tough.

    Any opinions? I have about the same number of game for my 32x and SMS.
    IMHO there's only one way to go, your going to have to get the model one to play your SMS games.
    I love my Genny model 1 and I use the power base converter to play my SMS carts too.
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    Does anyone know of a service that will RGB modify a Nintendo 64 and output it through the same pins on the multi-out video/audio port as a stock SuperNes does?

    Interested in getting this done, and hopefully having it compatible with this same cable.

    Thanks

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    AFAIK the RGB conversion on an N64 is one of the easier mods to accomplish, assuming you have the right system model.

    I'm in for one but I can't decide which one. So choices for Sega Genesis are Model 1 or Model 2. If I get the model 1, I can't use my 32x. If I get the model 2, I can't use the SMS base converter. Right now I'm currently leaning more towards the model one, that way if my 32x takes a dive I can still use it. This "first world problem" is tough.

    Any opinions? I have about the same number of game for my 32x and SMS.
    Get the model 2 and a converter/stereo cable from retro console accessories. Just tell her you want a female mini Din 9. Then you can use the cable on gen/32x and sms.
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    Model 2 while adding one of these.

    http://www.stoneagegamer.com/powerbase-mini.html

    Unless you have a card game you can't do without, I'd go this route. And for another option, if an Everdrive is part of your collection or a plan for down the road, you can just play SMS rom images via that accessory without the need of interfacing your original SMS cartridges.

    Edit: I briefly forgot that we're not just talking about physical issues of connecting a Power Base Converter into a 32X. So strike this post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_A View Post
    Does anyone know of a service that will RGB modify a Nintendo 64 and output it through the same pins on the multi-out video/audio port as a stock SuperNes does?

    Interested in getting this done, and hopefully having it compatible with this same cable.

    Thanks
    http://atariage.com/forums/topic/222...s-distributor/

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    I thought of him and already inquired, but didn't have much luck finding out if it would output a similar RGB signal through the same pins as the SuperNes. He basically told me to do it and find out for myself.

    I assume his mod has a chance of working with this component cable though, since his AA ad mentions using a RGB SuperNes cable which seems like it means it's outputting the same sort of information through the same pins on the multi video out port.

    How do I tell if my N64 is able to receive this easily? Was bought in 1999 and came with two gamepads (Gray, and a clear purple model). Have another, this time second hand model, of unknown vintage.
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