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    Pyst.

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    Kenji Eno's D was alright the first time through.

    Mansion of Hidden Souls... eh, I thought it was mediocre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorpho View Post
    If there was absolutely no skill involved and you got lucky, then yes, you absolutely should hold it against the makers of the game.
    Ehm, I dunno if how it played out qualifies as just getting lucky, is the thing.

    Okay, see... in Timelapse, there's this part where you find a stone tablet. The tablet displays these markings, next to pictures of objects--one mark is next to a dagger, another is against a basket, another against a coffin, etc. Now, I had seen these same marks in a combination lock earlier, so I knew they must be numbers, but I didn't see the relevance of the items they were beside. A puzzle involving crystals used these numbers too, but I managed to brute force that one.

    So then I come to the combination lock, and seeing as I already know "these are numbers" I try all sorts of logical approaches--maybe the top-right one is One and the bottom right is Ten? That doesn't work. So I try every variation thereof.

    Then I go back to where I saw the tablet in the first place, and look around. Earlier I had seen a treasure chest full of daggers that I didn't understand the relevance of, since you can only look at them, not interact with them in any way. Right next to that chest is some vases, and it suddenly hits me that these look just like the vases on that tablet... and that, in fact, every item on that tablet is found in the same general area as the tablet itself, in varying quantities...

    And then I'm like, "you can't be serious."

    But yeah, they were serious.

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    From your description, it sounds fine to me. The clue was there, you just didn't realize it until later. I likely would have had a hard time figuring it out too, but in games like this, I always figure it's an issue with me, not the way the game is designed and I ask myself "What have I missed? What did I overlook?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfchakan View Post
    Kenji Eno's D was alright the first time through.

    Mansion of Hidden Souls... eh, I thought it was mediocre.
    I really like both of those games. I started liking Mansion of Hidden Souls when I realized that the Saturn game was a direct sequel to the Sega CD game, and that both have ties to Lunacy on Saturn. I like Enemy Zero better than either, but it's more of a departure from the style with its action sequences.

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    I need to get a new copy of Mansion of Hidden Souls on Sega CD and D on Saturn.

    For both games, I have a disc that ends up being problematic. Mansion won't even work because apparently the previous owner stuck the disc in lava or something, and D, I can get to the second disc, but then there's a part where the game locks up.

    In both cases my case and manuals are fine, just the games themselves are issue-matic. IF anyone wants to throw some spares at me, lemme know.

    This is outside the purview of this thread, but I have similar problems with Dune and Revenge of the Ninja, both on Sega CD.

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    My Revenge of the Ninja is scratched to hell, but it was free. The store owner I bought my Saturn Time Gal/Ninja Hayate from threw it in since it was in rough shape, but it was complete. At least the Saturn game was flawless and in pristine shape all around. I may have a stray D laying around. I'll check.

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    Doesn't D have a Windows port?
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    Yep. D and Enemy Zero both had Windows ports.

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    Enemy Zero for Windows I might have to look into, since the Saturn version is kinda pricey. With D tho I'd like a fix/replacement for the version I already own. Replacing it with a different version feels wrong.

    (Though now I'm wondering if either D or EZ really count as Myst clones. Well, D I can see an argument for, but Enemy Zero has combat and stuff).

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    Not sure how much is nostalgia, but I have fond memories of Dragon Lore. Though there was a point I got stuck at one of the "puzzles" and ended up ordering the hint book.
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    Hey guys, remember that game "Timelapse" that I mentioned before?

    It's on GOG now.

    I'm actually kinda shocked that a game this obscure got picked up there.

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    So this thread had inspired me to make a late night bid on AMBER. Won it for like $3 shipped. Manual, but no case. Well last night I found my original disk. Now I have two copies of an amazing (but unbeatable) game.

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    Why is Amber "Unbeatable?" Is your disk damaged, or is there a puzzle you couldn't figure out?

    I've beaten it, twice, without a walkthru. I'm willing to go through it a third time if you're having issues and I could help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Why is Amber "Unbeatable?" Is your disk damaged, or is there a puzzle you couldn't figure out?

    I've beaten it, twice, without a walkthru. I'm willing to go through it a third time if you're having issues and I could help.
    I was reading that on modern machines you can't actually get to the end.

    I've beaten it too, years ago.

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    Did you get the fanmade patch? I understand it's darn near impossible to get it running at all without that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorpho View Post
    Did you get the fanmade patch? I understand it's darn near impossible to get it running at all without that.
    I haven't even tried to install it yet, but I'll make sure I pick up the patch.

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    Last time I wanted to play Amber (before building an old-school machine) I just used Microsoft Virtual PC 2003 and ran it in a virtualized Windows 98 environment. I don't recall if I beat the game that time or not but it seemed to be an adequate solution.

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    it's not really a Myst-like game, but it's a really really great and very hard point'n click/adventure game : The 7th Guest. And his sequel The 11th Hour.

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    Ahh, 7th Guest. Show of hands: How many of us have legitimately conquered the microscope puzzle?

    (Which is literally just Attax or Spot: the Video Game but somehow much harder. Its weird because I used to be a master at Spot but the microscope puzzle usually kicks my ass).

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