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    I need to get a new copy of Mansion of Hidden Souls on Sega CD and D on Saturn.

    For both games, I have a disc that ends up being problematic. Mansion won't even work because apparently the previous owner stuck the disc in lava or something, and D, I can get to the second disc, but then there's a part where the game locks up.

    In both cases my case and manuals are fine, just the games themselves are issue-matic. IF anyone wants to throw some spares at me, lemme know.

    This is outside the purview of this thread, but I have similar problems with Dune and Revenge of the Ninja, both on Sega CD.

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    My Revenge of the Ninja is scratched to hell, but it was free. The store owner I bought my Saturn Time Gal/Ninja Hayate from threw it in since it was in rough shape, but it was complete. At least the Saturn game was flawless and in pristine shape all around. I may have a stray D laying around. I'll check.

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    Doesn't D have a Windows port?
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    Yep. D and Enemy Zero both had Windows ports.

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    Enemy Zero for Windows I might have to look into, since the Saturn version is kinda pricey. With D tho I'd like a fix/replacement for the version I already own. Replacing it with a different version feels wrong.

    (Though now I'm wondering if either D or EZ really count as Myst clones. Well, D I can see an argument for, but Enemy Zero has combat and stuff).

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    Not sure how much is nostalgia, but I have fond memories of Dragon Lore. Though there was a point I got stuck at one of the "puzzles" and ended up ordering the hint book.
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    Hey guys, remember that game "Timelapse" that I mentioned before?

    It's on GOG now.

    I'm actually kinda shocked that a game this obscure got picked up there.

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    So this thread had inspired me to make a late night bid on AMBER. Won it for like $3 shipped. Manual, but no case. Well last night I found my original disk. Now I have two copies of an amazing (but unbeatable) game.

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    Why is Amber "Unbeatable?" Is your disk damaged, or is there a puzzle you couldn't figure out?

    I've beaten it, twice, without a walkthru. I'm willing to go through it a third time if you're having issues and I could help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Why is Amber "Unbeatable?" Is your disk damaged, or is there a puzzle you couldn't figure out?

    I've beaten it, twice, without a walkthru. I'm willing to go through it a third time if you're having issues and I could help.
    I was reading that on modern machines you can't actually get to the end.

    I've beaten it too, years ago.

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    Did you get the fanmade patch? I understand it's darn near impossible to get it running at all without that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorpho View Post
    Did you get the fanmade patch? I understand it's darn near impossible to get it running at all without that.
    I haven't even tried to install it yet, but I'll make sure I pick up the patch.

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    Last time I wanted to play Amber (before building an old-school machine) I just used Microsoft Virtual PC 2003 and ran it in a virtualized Windows 98 environment. I don't recall if I beat the game that time or not but it seemed to be an adequate solution.

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    it's not really a Myst-like game, but it's a really really great and very hard point'n click/adventure game : The 7th Guest. And his sequel The 11th Hour.

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    Ahh, 7th Guest. Show of hands: How many of us have legitimately conquered the microscope puzzle?

    (Which is literally just Attax or Spot: the Video Game but somehow much harder. Its weird because I used to be a master at Spot but the microscope puzzle usually kicks my ass).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Ahh, 7th Guest. Show of hands: How many of us have legitimately conquered the microscope puzzle?

    (Which is literally just Attax or Spot: the Video Game but somehow much harder. Its weird because I used to be a master at Spot but the microscope puzzle usually kicks my ass).
    I don't think I ever got that far. I managed the pie/cake puzzle and the one with the telescope but I think that's it, though I haven't played it since maybe 2001 at the latest.

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    I've never been able to figure out Myst or games like it, the one exception was the kiddie friendly game made by them, The Manhole. Game came with my original PC which was a Christmas gift from my grandparents in 1990, and it was the deluxe CD edition with the nicer music and the 256 or higher colored visuals with animations, looked more storybook quality. I loved to explore that as it always seemed there was something else to click you missed the other dozen times before.

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    The Neverhood was not exactly like Myst. It has been at least a decade since I fired it up, but from what I recall it was like "claymation", digitized. I want to say that it had a mix of first-person view along with the side-scrolling / top down view found in many Sierra games.

    Some people I knew raved about it around the turn of the millenium and burned me a copy - it wasn't in print at that time and was a fairly rare game. I don't remember it being all that amazing myself; I certainly never finished it.
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    THREAD REVIVAL MAGIC!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by retroguy View Post
    I have that set. Riven and Exile work fine, but Myst kept crashing on me for some reason. Oh well.
    I recently had to deal with problems with the Riven DVD from that set, with some help from Reddit. Might be unrelated to your problem but....

    https://www.reddit.com/r/myst/commen...es_on_win98se/

    ......

    Also while re-reading this old topic I saw other "related" topics from years past.... saw one guy from 2007 saying Myst was a Dragon's Lair clone. I'll never understand how people that dumb can even manage to use Windows, much less play games on anything whose controller has more than one button.

    That said, playing Myst again, I love it but I also do get behind one particular complaint I've seen on the webs--that it's a shallow experience. Even if you don't mind the type of game it is, for me it feels like its over too quick and more like a minigame I would expect to be included with a more fully-fleshed-out game than something you would spend money for on its own. Each Age only really has one puzzle to solve and then its over. And in my case at least, I never needed a walkthru.

    (Though in my case, my copy of Myst came as a special pack-in with Riven, so I DID get it as a bonus included with another game)

    This doesn't make it bad, though I wish they would endlessly port and remake Riven instead, or at least in addition to (realRiven would be absolutely mindblowing)

    ......

    Anyway, been reading up on a game called Schizm: Mysterious Journey, which I almost bought... until I read in several places that they had to remove content from the 5 CD-ROM version to make it fit, but the DVD-ROM version contains everything.

    .... and yet the DVD-ROM release is rare as hell by all appearances. That sucks -__-

    Just wanna be forewarned in advance: Are there any other Win95/98-era games where there's a DVD-ROM release, and especially one that actually has additional content not in the CD-ROM version? Riven is supposed to be just slightly better looking (personally I haven't seen a difference) so in that case the only benefit is not having to switch discs, but things like Schizm make me crazy.

    ......

    Also, I still never got a fixed/working copy of Mansion of Hidden Souls (Sega CD) or D (Saturn)....

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    The Witness is a recent release that's like myst.

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    What about The Room? I think it's only for phones or tablets, but has a nice discovery vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    THREAD REVIVAL MAGIC!!!



    I recently had to deal with problems with the Riven DVD from that set, with some help from Reddit. Might be unrelated to your problem but....

    https://www.reddit.com/r/myst/commen...es_on_win98se/

    ......

    Also while re-reading this old topic I saw other "related" topics from years past.... saw one guy from 2007 saying Myst was a Dragon's Lair clone. I'll never understand how people that dumb can even manage to use Windows, much less play games on anything whose controller has more than one button.

    That said, playing Myst again, I love it but I also do get behind one particular complaint I've seen on the webs--that it's a shallow experience. Even if you don't mind the type of game it is, for me it feels like its over too quick and more like a minigame I would expect to be included with a more fully-fleshed-out game than something you would spend money for on its own. Each Age only really has one puzzle to solve and then its over. And in my case at least, I never needed a walkthru.

    (Though in my case, my copy of Myst came as a special pack-in with Riven, so I DID get it as a bonus included with another game)

    This doesn't make it bad, though I wish they would endlessly port and remake Riven instead, or at least in addition to (realRiven would be absolutely mindblowing)

    ......

    Anyway, been reading up on a game called Schizm: Mysterious Journey, which I almost bought... until I read in several places that they had to remove content from the 5 CD-ROM version to make it fit, but the DVD-ROM version contains everything.

    .... and yet the DVD-ROM release is rare as hell by all appearances. That sucks -__-

    Just wanna be forewarned in advance: Are there any other Win95/98-era games where there's a DVD-ROM release, and especially one that actually has additional content not in the CD-ROM version? Riven is supposed to be just slightly better looking (personally I haven't seen a difference) so in that case the only benefit is not having to switch discs, but things like Schizm make me crazy.

    ......

    Also, I still never got a fixed/working copy of Mansion of Hidden Souls (Sega CD) or D (Saturn)....
    I have three copies of D for Saturn. I know one has a good second disc that I usually play on, one has a bad second disc that I bought the other to replace. The third, I honestly don't recall. I'll test it next weekend, and if it's good, I'll let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    I have three copies of D for Saturn. I know one has a good second disc that I usually play on, one has a bad second disc that I bought the other to replace. The third, I honestly don't recall. I'll test it next weekend, and if it's good, I'll let you know.
    Thanks. I'll try to return the favor.

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    I'm sure there was a game like that recently on next-gen consoles... something about discovering the case of a missing person and wandering around the wilderness... i forget the name i know there was something about talking to a girl on the radio all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by callofthemountains View Post
    I'm sure there was a game like that recently on next-gen consoles... something about discovering the case of a missing person and wandering around the wilderness... i forget the name i know there was something about talking to a girl on the radio all the time
    I dunno about girls on radios but the first part sounds like The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.

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