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    The problem is droning on about stuff as you're kind of doing a Let's Play going by what you said earlier. I hate those things. I don't care about some monotone discussion or pithy garbage being prattled on about so if I get into the stuff I'll go into the Long Play where it's just the game with a nice tall cool glass of STFU by the player. As far as production value goes, none of them as far as I'm concerned with retro gaming have much at all. Sure someone figured out how to use dreamweaver nicer than the next dude, whoopdeedoo. My idea of some nice production values where the effort shows, go watch the growth within the 3 seasons of the Epic Rap Battles of History as that's crazy how far they've come. Sure it's not gaming, well they did do the Wright Bros versus the Super Mario Bros, but that's about it.

    Seeing games is fine, talking about them is fine too, but I think he doesn't want to hear someone rattling on about overly discussed junk in a video any clown could have done who had a boring afternoon. Do some research, get some obscure if not new information no one else has presented, throw that up into a digestible format and you'll find a lot less bitching about more of the same.

    Homebrew videos aren't that interesting either, at least to most. Few know those things exist, but there are so few and far between that don't just blow and don't even have the quality to pass as a LJN atrocity of the 1980s NES. Usually a fair many of them much like the released prototypes tend to get a mass market version but initially are done as limited numbered runs to pound peoples wallets up front if not worse on the after market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FieryReign
    GameSack? Don't make me laugh. Joe is an egomaniac and the other guy couldn't read a script to save his life. Talk about falling asleep, it's like these guys read through every retro magazine and copy and paste reviews into their videos.
    I really enjoy Game Sack. I literally chuckle a little every time they say "...just like in real life".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanooki View Post
    The problem is droning on about stuff as you're kind of doing a Let's Play going by what you said earlier. I hate those things. I don't care about some monotone discussion or pithy garbage being prattled on about so if I get into the stuff I'll go into the Long Play where it's just the game with a nice tall cool glass of STFU by the player. As far as production value goes, none of them as far as I'm concerned with retro gaming have much at all. Sure someone figured out how to use dreamweaver nicer than the next dude, whoopdeedoo. My idea of some nice production values where the effort shows, go watch the growth within the 3 seasons of the Epic Rap Battles of History as that's crazy how far they've come. Sure it's not gaming, well they did do the Wright Bros versus the Super Mario Bros, but that's about it.

    Seeing games is fine, talking about them is fine too, but I think he doesn't want to hear someone rattling on about overly discussed junk in a video any clown could have done who had a boring afternoon. Do some research, get some obscure if not new information no one else has presented, throw that up into a digestible format and you'll find a lot less bitching about more of the same.

    Homebrew videos aren't that interesting either, at least to most. Few know those things exist, but there are so few and far between that don't just blow and don't even have the quality to pass as a LJN atrocity of the 1980s NES. Usually a fair many of them much like the released prototypes tend to get a mass market version but initially are done as limited numbered runs to pound peoples wallets up front if not worse on the after market.
    You make a lot of valid points. I agree and for most titles I research and share any information I found interesting or did not know about a game and share it in my videos. Since I am an average gamer I figure many other average gamers may not have known about what I learned.

    As for homebrews I only make videos of ones that are well above LJN quality and actually stand out.

    I know you do not watch any videos posted but if you did see them you would understand I am not just your typical flap jack screaming nonsense when playing a game. I am working on a good balance of gameplay and informative banter and until I perfect it I will just have to keep working on it. I personally find no commentary boring for most games especially ones I want to learn tips and tricks on. I do still watch longplays but not as much due to that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Megas View Post
    I really enjoy Game Sack. I literally chuckle a little every time they say "...just like in real life".
    I agree too bad the other bozo does not understand humor and rather listen to the gaming librarian.

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    The thing about so many videos is that the research is all coming from the same sources. Most of Game Sack's info comes straight from Wikipedia. Joe has said exactly that himself. There is very little going on in the way of finding old games that haven't been done to death, exploring little-discussed modes, or finding research info from different perspectives like old regional magazines or fanzines. Not only that, but the same kind of hyperbole tends to be used to laud or damn games in order to create sensationalized entertainment instead of honest perspective.

    That said, I like Game Sack. I can't say I've learned anything, but I find it to be a fun retrospective. The only other channel I really like is Happy Console Gamer, as it is less of a review show and more of a reminiscence, and feels like a conversation with a friend about old times. It's not so much informative as it is comfort food, but I like it for what feels like honesty.

    What I do agree with FieryReign about is that there is merit to using language to describe and discuss games. Good communication skills do more to relate perspective and create provocative imagery than the blunt force of footage. Footage is great and all, but it is not a replacement for creative communication. They should go hand in hand.

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    so the best un released game is mega man legends 3

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    Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 4: Summer Memories

    ...but holy shit, system seller for me.
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    KWK I watched part of two you did -- starfox up until the meteor stage with the walkers, and then one of those DOOM videos for just a little bit of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celerystalker View Post
    The thing about so many videos is that the research is all coming from the same sources. Most of Game Sack's info comes straight from Wikipedia. Joe has said exactly that himself. There is very little going on in the way of finding old games that haven't been done to death, exploring little-discussed modes, or finding research info from different perspectives like old regional magazines or fanzines. Not only that, but the same kind of hyperbole tends to be used to laud or damn games in order to create sensationalized entertainment instead of honest perspective.

    That said, I like Game Sack. I can't say I've learned anything, but I find it to be a fun retrospective. The only other channel I really like is Happy Console Gamer, as it is less of a review show and more of a reminiscence, and feels like a conversation with a friend about old times. It's not so much informative as it is comfort food, but I like it for what feels like honesty..
    I actually learned a few things watching Game Sack. I didn't know much of anything about the PC-FX, and I've never really seen many CD-i games before. I also don't know much about import games and have learned a bit about some games that never made it here. I've been a gamer for a long time, but I've never been one to research much outside of the basics that relate to my actual gaming experiences.

    For me, the sweet spot for gaming shows is a combination of personality and interesting information. It's why I really love Game Sack, Turbo Views and Lazy Game Reviews (non-Sims stuff anyway). I learn stuff, and I really enjoy their delivery and production. There's humor and quirk but almost zero profanity or angst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanooki View Post
    KWK I watched part of two you did -- starfox up until the meteor stage with the walkers, and then one of those DOOM videos for just a little bit of it.
    Hey thanks. My favorite DOOM is the 3DO video because around 5 minutes I feature a video where Kyle starts throwing up from motion sickness. Any feedback is welcome from your experience. Thanks for watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Megas View Post
    I actually learned a few things watching Game Sack. I didn't know much of anything about the PC-FX, and I've never really seen many CD-i games before. I also don't know much about import games and have learned a bit about some games that never made it here. I've been a gamer for a long time, but I've never been one to research much outside of the basics that relate to my actual gaming experiences.

    For me, the sweet spot for gaming shows is a combination of personality and interesting information. It's why I really love Game Sack, Turbo Views and Lazy Game Reviews (non-Sims stuff anyway). I learn stuff, and I really enjoy their delivery and production. There's humor and quirk but almost zero profanity or angst.
    Yeah, the angsty stuff is annoying.

    I haven't done a ton of research, but I was fortunate enough to grow up around what used to be a ton of great game stores. Until the best, last one shut down a couple of years ago, I never really had to buy online, even for imports. Like my PC-FX, I ran across it at that last awesome store several years ago, and I wasn't familiar with it, but he had a boxed one with a spare controller and Battle Heat and Team Innocent. He hooked it up for me to try, and I bought the whole lot. Just a fortunate experience that taught me something new. I miss that place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Megas View Post
    I actually learned a few things watching Game Sack. I didn't know much of anything about the PC-FX, and I've never really seen many CD-i games before. I also don't know much about import games and have learned a bit about some games that never made it here. I've been a gamer for a long time, but I've never been one to research much outside of the basics that relate to my actual gaming experiences.

    For me, the sweet spot for gaming shows is a combination of personality and interesting information. It's why I really love Game Sack, Turbo Views and Lazy Game Reviews (non-Sims stuff anyway). I learn stuff, and I really enjoy their delivery and production. There's humor and quirk but almost zero profanity or angst.
    I appreciate the same type of content for the same reasons. Anything that has constant angst and profanity that is not family friendly is what drives me away from channels now that I have a family. I do not need to be watching that garbage when my kid walks in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWKBOX View Post
    Because this is not the stone age where I tell a story and you imagine what a game looks like. I provide a video of game footage so people can better understand what I am talking about if they have never seen the game.
    So, the "stone age" is, what, 2005 now? Most people manage just fine with ordinary words.

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    You must be from the generation that thinks trying is too hard and expect someone else to solve your problems
    Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KWKBOX View Post
    I agree too bad the other bozo does not understand humor and rather listen to the gaming librarian.
    Bozo, huh? Sorry, "the gaming librarian" actually puts work and effort into his content and it shows. He doesn't just plop a camera in front of 2 fat, uninteresting slobs and hit record. While talking a whole bunch of nothing. He also doesn't spam up multiple forums with every video he does, he gained viewers and subcribers legitimately. Don't know why you wanna riff on him, I just gave an example, and could give dozens more. If I want humor, I'll watch something that's meant to be humorous. Certainly not 2 dudebros playing a game and jibber jabbering. Go ahead and continue to be the spammeister of lame let's play videos. You're only putting people off with your tactics, and gaining no more views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FieryReign View Post
    Bozo, huh? Sorry, "the gaming librarian" actually puts work and effort into his content and it shows. He doesn't just plop a camera in front of 2 fat, uninteresting slobs and hit record. While talking a whole bunch of nothing. He also doesn't spam up multiple forums with every video he does, he gained viewers and subcribers legitimately. Don't know why you wanna riff on him, I just gave an example, and could give dozens more. If I want humor, I'll watch something that's meant to be humorous. Certainly not 2 dudebros playing a game and jibber jabbering. Go ahead and continue to be the spammeister of lame let's play videos. You're only putting people off with your tactics, and gaining no more views.
    You are a fool to think it is easy. You have no clue how much is involved in putting out content. If you want to know what is easy it is criticizing other people on a forum without any clue of what you are talking about. If people want your advice they will ask for it so stop volunteering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWKBOX View Post
    You are a fool to think it is easy. You have no clue how much is involved in putting out content. If you want to know what is easy it is criticizing other people on a forum without any clue of what you are talking about. If people want your advice they will ask for it so stop volunteering.
    Not giving advice, just sayin your channel sucks and to stop spamming it everywhere. Strike a nerve did I? Why don't you respond to the others who say you're nothing but a spamwhore with useless videos? There's basically a whole poll and thread devoted to your bullshit, sly, and sneaky tactics to gain views. It's not hard to find. I'm not the only one criticising your lameasses.

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    He's right ya know, no one likes a blatant spam whore. It wouldn't be so bad if you started real topics that just happen to have a video in them. But you're posting click bait titles for threads that contain a single line of worthless text and a video plug. Plus literally no one here knows you. You are a walking billboard and it makes for a TERRIBLE first impression.

    You want to film yourself playing games? Fine, I understand that: it's fun to do. But Let's Plays are some of the least respected video content out there (next to unboxings and pickup videos). Make them for yourself and as you improve (assuming you strive to improve and not wallow in arrogant self satisfaction) other people will come to appreciate your work. The best way to grow a Lets Play channel is to reach out to other Lets Players. Forget plugging on random forums. Literally no one here is going to give a shit. Once you start watching other people's content and being supportive to other channels then your enthusiasm will be reciprocated.

    So some serious advice? Quit ramming these topics down our throats. Stick around DP if you want to discuss gaming, but join another community for your videos altogether. Honestly try reddit. /r/LetsPlay is a friendly channel that won't eat you alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FieryReign View Post
    Not giving advice, just sayin your channel sucks and to stop spamming it everywhere. Strike a nerve did I? Why don't you respond to the others who say you're nothing but a spamwhore with useless videos? There's basically a whole poll and thread devoted to your bullshit, sly, and sneaky tactics to gain views. It's not hard to find. I'm not the only one criticising your lameasses.
    You are right you are not giving advice. You are just an ignorant person looking to attack anybody for your own selfish reasons. I only responded because you gave your opinion on other channels and I gave my opinion on them. Somebody just crying stop spamming is nobody worth responding to. Now that I know you are just another one of those babies I have no need to respond anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanooki View Post
    Homebrew videos aren't that interesting either, at least to most. .
    *cough* IF they're good, like that 2D homebrew Portal game made for the DS, they're interesting to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by FieryReign View Post
    Bozo, huh? Sorry, "the gaming librarian" actually puts work and effort into his content and it shows. He doesn't just plop a camera in front of 2 fat, uninteresting slobs and hit record. While talking a whole bunch of nothing. He also doesn't spam up multiple forums with every video he does, he gained viewers and subcribers legitimately. Don't know why you wanna riff on him, I just gave an example, and could give dozens more. If I want humor, I'll watch something that's meant to be humorous. Certainly not 2 dudebros playing a game and jibber jabbering. .
    Attacking the person does not actually refute an opinion. In fact, it reminds me of an old Chinese proverb: "The first one to throw a punch, is the first one to admit he lost the argument."

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    Go ahead and continue to be the spammeister of lame let's play videos. You're only putting people off with your tactics, and gaining no more views.
    This, I mostly agree with. Not about the videos being lame, but the "putting people off with your tactics" part. Perhaps moving it all into a single thread, with the first post listing and linking to the videos and where commenting on each began in the thread, would ease that perception? It would also keep things nice & neat. People who are interested can check in on the videos and leave their thoughts about the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBenenator View Post
    *cough* IF they're good, like that 2D homebrew Portal game made for the DS, they're interesting to me.



    Attacking the person does not actually refute an opinion. In fact, it reminds me of an old Chinese proverb: "The first one to throw a punch, is the first one to admit he lost the argument."



    This, I mostly agree with. Not about the videos being lame, but the "putting people off with your tactics" part. Perhaps moving it all into a single thread, with the first post listing and linking to the videos and where commenting on each began in the thread, would ease that perception? It would also keep things nice & neat. People who are interested can check in on the videos and leave their thoughts about the game.
    I agree. Moving to a single thread would be much neater and easier. Do not know why I did not think of that in the first place. Thanks for the input.

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    Default The Destruction Derby Series

    I always wanted to do an in depth review on some retro games but it seemed the majority of them have been covered so I never got around to doing one for quite some time. Over the years I always found it hard to find much info online or in videos covering the Destruction Derby series so I decided to give it a shot and add to the gaming community. What is your favorite game in the series or in general? This is my first review video so any feedback is greatly appreciated thanks in advance.

    https://youtu.be/2p_lqis-Iro

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    Default Top 10 Famicom exclusives?

    Do you agree with this list? Did I miss anything?


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    wrong forum

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    You have a video thread, but posted your video both here and in import mania. Gaming videos in the KWKBOX's video thread.

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    Anyway, to reply to the question, I'd ditch Holy Diver (just too aggravating, derivative, and unfair) and replace it with:

    Robocco Wars
    Cocoron
    Moon Crystal
    Ninja Jajamaru Ginga Daisakusen
    Mitsume ga Tooru
    Tetrastar
    Hebereke
    Over Horizon
    Gimmick! (though also frustrating)

    The last three were released in other regions, but for people in North America, all the above would be imports all the same.

    Plus a slew of FDS-only titles can be thrown in as well.

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