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    Forcing people to pay for stuff isn't screwing up anyone's hobby unless your hobby is theft

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    Forcing people to pay for stuff isn't screwing up anyone's hobby unless your hobby is theft
    I pretty much only ever downloaded PS1 ISOs to check if my scratched legit games were fully readable or not. I would use ImgBurn to load up the ISO and verify against the legit disc. So far the only disc I found with problems was with a PC game and I was lucky to find the ISO for that. I wouldn't keep the ISOs after checking the discs as they take up too much hard drive space, I only would keep patched fan translations as legit pressed discs don't exist and burned discs can erase over time.

    Otherwise I could see it as a way to test games out before buying them but I never really did this, usually watching youtube videos is enough for me to know if I want to play a game or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid View Post
    Well what a shitshow is going down concerning The ISO Zone and RetroZone -
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Roms/commen...one_retrozone/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    Forcing people to pay for stuff isn't screwing up anyone's hobby unless your hobby is theft
    Dude, can you just relax? Do you have to sideways flip off every thread where every single person doesn't have the exact same thought on a subject as you?

    I'm sure available ISO downloads are totally killing the value of LSD: Dream Emulator or Harmful Park, right? Screw playing a fan translation of Policenauts or Ace Combat 3. Nintendo isn't making a dime on NES and SNES classic consoles and inventory is clogging up retail channels because everyone is just using a Raspberry Pi with illegal downloads. We're all such thieves.

    If I can buy an old game without it being enhanced or reworked, with the money going to the people who developed it or own the IP, I do. So many people at The ISO Zone were maintaining 1:1 clean archives of entire CD based game libraries - you think developers or publishers would do that? Revision differences, unused game assets left on retail releases, regional changes, figuring out who developed what, prototype differences - it's all because of people duplicating game data and uploading it somewhere. So much is learned about the crazy wild west days of the industry from dumping ROM data and ripping disc images. So many important game-by-game video programs created by enthusiasts exist because of access to emulation. So many untranslated games have dozens of talented people working to break down the language barrier every day, all because of emulation.

    Ever rented a video game from a video store in the 1980's or 1990's? Guess what, you were breaking the law with media that was current and taking money from developers who were active.

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    Justify it as much as you want but remember that I am on the side of people who make a living deciding what is and isn't morally acceptable as well as the people whose name was synonymous with "video games" for a solid decade and a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    Justify it as much as you want but remember that I am on the side of people who make a living deciding what is and isn't morally acceptable as well as the people whose name was synonymous with "video games" for a solid decade and a half.
    Wait, there's a job where I get to decide what is and isn't moral? And I get paid big bux for it? Dude, hook me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornelius View Post
    Wait, there's a job where I get to decide what is and isn't moral? And I get paid big bux for it? Dude, hook me up!
    I assume he means lawyers working for Atari. Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    I assume he means lawyers working for Atari. Or something.
    Damn lawyers lol

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid View Post
    So many people at The ISO Zone were maintaining 1:1 clean archives of entire CD based game libraries - you think developers or publishers would do that?
    It would be awesome if a company actually did that with their old game libraries, even with a price tag of $1-5 per game, they would make a ton of money and we'd have what we need.

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    Good I hope this leads to the removal of all the fake cartridges, manuals, boxes, and multicades out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    Good I hope this leads to the removal of all the fake cartridges, manuals, boxes, and multicades out there.
    This literally applies to none of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr3tty F1y View Post
    This literally applies to none of that.
    You must not be familiar with the butterfly effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    You must not be familiar with the butterfly effect.
    No, this will have no effect on anything made (considering all the bootleg game items mass-produced come from China), or any fake games already in existance

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    I wonder why Nintendo was so quick to settle when they (apparently) had a claim worth $100 million. Heard some rumors that Nintendo was afraid of a court saying that in some situations, ROMs might not be protected. Don't think they would have gotten the $100 million anyway, though I doubt they will get the $12 either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupin View Post
    Don't think they would have gotten the $100 million anyway, though I doubt they will get the $12 either...
    100 is way over the top of course; you cant get blood from a stone. The fact that they came to an agreement makes me think the defendant is gonna have to make payments over the rest of his life, which have prob already been agreed upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bb_hood View Post
    No, this will have no effect on anything made (considering all the bootleg game items mass-produced come from China), or any fake games already in existance
    Yeah, if anything this would actually increase demand for bootlegs, repros, custom retro-pi units and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb143 View Post
    Yeah, if anything this would actually increase demand for bootlegs, repros, custom retro-pi units and the like.
    I really wish there were a retro game store with deep pockets like Nintendo that could go after a US manufacturer of bootlegs. There's a company in my town that openly sells illegal multicades. A game store in town sells $40 repros of high dollar NES and SNES carts, and there's no indication whatsoever that they're counterfeit besides the price tag.

    GameStop is about the only company who could do something about it but their retro game sales are probably a small share of their profits.

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