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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    I'm not up to speed on the new stuff but I have a few predictions and maybe some of you can tell me if I am right or wrong.

    What will be valuable:
    -unopened first print Amiibos

    This, but its not gonna be for awhile. I dont think the first print runs will be worth much more over secondary prints. The initial waves of amiibos werent especially rare (except for a few figs), it was just that scalpers bought up entire store stocks.

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    I'm pretty clueless on Amiibos, but is it that uncommon for them to stay unopened after they've been bought? I know they have gameplay functions, but it seems like a ton of people just buy them as collectible figures and keep them in the packaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    I'm pretty clueless on Amiibos, but is it that uncommon for them to stay unopened after they've been bought? I know they have gameplay functions, but it seems like a ton of people just buy them as collectible figures and keep them in the packaging.
    Alot of people kept them sealed, alot of people opened them also. So sealed ones arent super rare... but there are a ALOT of them now so completing sets isnt easy. The problem is they take up alot of space, a set of smash amiibos can easily fill a large shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    The bigger question would be asking if video games will still be widely collectible in the future or will people just move onto something else. Video games could become the same like beanie babies.
    Oh please don't fill me with false hopes of a day when old games are reasonably priced.

    That said personally I think our savior will be pirate repro carts.

    Probably comparably... in DVD cartoon collection, years ago Shout Factory's Transformers Matrix of Leadership used to be $200 used while their GI Joe footlocker (and Time Life's Real Ghostbusters) were like $80 and getting lower. It was assumed this was because the existance of a bootleg of the Matrix of Leadership set (there is no comparable bootleg of the other two things) had made the real thing more desirable... but years later, the situation reversed: You can now get a legit Matrix of Leadership set for sixty bucks (And in fact, I did) while the GI Joe Footlocker and the Time Life Real Ghostbusters both go for $300-$500 on used markets, and a part of me at least thinks this might be because of that same bootleg--people who really want a Matrix can get the hong kong one, while if you want a GI Joe footlocker or all the special features of Real Ghostbusters, you have only one option.

    I wonder if Earthbound will be the same in a few years.

    Right now the console I see gaining in value is the TurboGrafx, hucards specifically, because I almost never see those get bootleged. I dunno why, because its definitely possible, but it just doesn't seem to happen very often.

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    After 29 years the TurboGrafx kids will finally have one up on the Nintendo and Sega crowds.
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    I shudder to think of TG-16 games getting even more expensive than they already are. I'm just glad the system was a lot more successful in Japan, so there are tons of good imports that are plentiful and still pretty cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    I shudder to think of TG-16 games getting even more expensive than they already are. I'm just glad the system was a lot more successful in Japan, so there are tons of good imports that are plentiful and still pretty cheap.
    That's best way to way to look at it currently given how much TG16 has skyrocketed in price,is pce second hand.Beside,cheaper alternatives for playing such as the turbo everdrive flash cart and fpga clones such as the super sd system 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    While that was a concern immediately following the crash in the US, I think video games have been around for too long to ultimately be a fad.
    I said widely collectible, there will always be people collecting them just as people did before it became the cool mainstream thing to do. Even with beanie babies some people still collect them, and some are actually still quite valuable. It's just that now the majority of them are basically worthless or near worthless as most people only buy them for cheap to have a cute bear on display, not really to collect them anymore.

    I remember around 2000/2001-ish Atari 2600 games became somewhat popular to collect, even common games could be sold for $2-$5 each. Now good luck getting $1 for a common game, most people moved away from collecting that console except for a few collectors and it's just the rare games that have significant value. Barely any collectors I run across actually collect pre-NES anything, Atari, Coleco, Intellivision are all basically ignored by most collectors now.

    Here's my opinion, if something can be found on ebay at any given time then it's not that rare. Most valuable NES/SNES games are listed on ebay at any time, even if the prices are listed high they're still easy to find and available for purchase. Copies are still selling and more copies are being listed every few months, they're really not that rare compared to other collectibles. For example with actual rare stuff related to VHS tapes and laserdiscs, I have several where copies only turn up once every few months or even years, yet most still barely sell for $10-$30 when they are actually available. Value for anything really just depends on demand, something being rare isn't enough. If games aren't collectible in the mainstream anymore then the value will just drop as they're still too common to find. For most people dealing with original hardware is more of a pain than anything as most people don't have the correct TVs to even play them, using original hardware requires buying various converters and dealing with various shortfalls like having no working lightgun games, and with age more hardware needs to be repaired or maintained just to keep running. Eventually most people besides the die hard collectors will give up and move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    That said personally I think our savior will be pirate repro carts.

    Probably comparably... in DVD cartoon collection, years ago Shout Factory's Transformers Matrix of Leadership used to be $200 used while their GI Joe footlocker (and Time Life's Real Ghostbusters) were like $80 and getting lower. It was assumed this was because the existance of a bootleg of the Matrix of Leadership set (there is no comparable bootleg of the other two things) had made the real thing more desirable... but years later, the situation reversed: You can now get a legit Matrix of Leadership set for sixty bucks (And in fact, I did) while the GI Joe Footlocker and the Time Life Real Ghostbusters both go for $300-$500 on used markets, and a part of me at least thinks this might be because of that same bootleg--people who really want a Matrix can get the hong kong one, while if you want a GI Joe footlocker or all the special features of Real Ghostbusters, you have only one option.
    I mostly hate pirate carts that look near perfect to the originals, I'll make exceptions to multicarts just because they're a neat oddity and of course translations or unreleased games are a bit different. I'm pretty sure someone released an alternate version of Streets of Rage 3 with added content a few years ago and it was available for purchase on a bootleg cart from a source, though I could be mixing it up with a different game instead. Old pirates from the 90's looked odd and were pretty hard to mistake for original games, they're still neat oddities to keep if found cheap. Straight modern pirates just irritate me and make me reluctant to buy anything I can't look over in person.

    I'm not sure if bootlegs are specifically why those specific DVDs are cheaper. I thought that the Matrix of Leadership was reprinted or more widely available at some point, that's why it's cheaper now. It was in more high demand when the Transformers movies were starting to come out but now it dropped because the interest in the films dropped and the sets are more common to find. The GI Joe and Real Ghostbusters sets are harder to find and that's why they're so expensive now. I personally was waiting for the Real Ghostbusters set to drop in price before I would buy it but that never happened. Oh well. I've kind of moved on from older cartoons anyway so I'm not buying as many sets these days. Just wait until these series get released on Bluray, then the value of the DVDs will drop. As formats for video keep changing the older ones will get less valuable as long as they get re-released on the newer formats. Nobody would have thought their VHS tapes or laserdiscs would have become so worthless, people spent so much on these when they were new.

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    I wouldn't go so far as to call retro game collecting "mainstream". Modern gaming and buying AAA games digitally is what's mainstream. But retro collecting is less niche than it used to be, if only because there's more awareness of it, as there's more awareness of just about everything that's niche thanks to how ubiquitous the internet is now. Back in the day, a lot of us were more or less collecting in our own little bubbles, without talking to a ton of other collectors and making our collecting known to those who don't collect. I do think retro collecting has become something of a hipster-y fad for some, especially when the games in question are from before their time, same reason why vinyl collecting has become more popular recently. They enjoy watching AVGN and what have you on Youtube and decide to buy some retro games themselves on a whim. When the novelty wears off, their stuff will end up on the market again. But I think most people buying and selling are flippers who are aware enough of game collecting to think there's money to be made and people with nostalgia for what they're buying. Some will get their nostalgia fix and eventually dump their stuff too, likely causing prices to drop some on late 80s and 90s games as they did with pre-crash games. It makes sense that there seem to be more collectors than ever because the gaming populace grew over time. If there were more players of NES and the 16-bit systems than there were for pre-crash systems, it's only natural the ratio would carry through and result in more collectors of those games as well. And that's on top of the extra demand produced by the fact that companies like Nintendo and Sega are still around and still promoting awareness and nostalgia for their classics. It's easier to forget about and lose interest in pre-crash systems and games when they have little relevancy on the current market.

    As for eBay, it's harder to use that as a judge of rarity than it used to be. When everything was an auction and most people started low, sure, a rare game game would come and go and then not be seen again for months. But now, it's more likely to see a rare game available at any given time, just it's so overpriced it'll sit on eBay for months and months on end. When there isn't a fee to list an item, there isn't much incentive to sell it immediately. And with the greater awareness of collecting, some stuff is bought for the purpose of selling. For example, I've been selling off some of my LRG stuff, and one game I'm selling is variant of which only 600 copies exist. I'd say that's pretty dang rare. That's probably not much more than a lot of rare games that pull in huge figures. But the demand isn't there for what I'm selling, and on top of that, a lot of people bought it to resell. There are always multiple copies of that variant available on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    I wouldn't go so far as to call retro game collecting "mainstream".
    So things like the NES Classic or SNES Classic aren't available from major retailers? They're only available from specialty game stores?

    The Atari 2600 was available for sale longer than both the NES and SNES combined, there should be more players for the Atari 2600 than the more modern NES or SNES consoles. People just got bored with the Atari games sooner, it'll still happen with more modern systems once the fad dies down. It's hard to remember that consoles like the NES and SNES were only marketed for about 5 years before replacements were introduced, compare that to the PS2, PS3, or XBOX 360. Flippers and resellers are only able to profit off of games because people are willing to pay big bucks for them, mostly hipsters like you've mentioned. When they stop collecting, there won't be as much money for resellers so they'll stop buying them to flip.

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    I think one reason Atari game prices and that era of games isn't expensive now is because those games haven't aged well at all. Just looking at screenshots of them makes my eyes bleed.

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    I think it goes without saying that the Vita exclusives, the very few they are will be highly collectible. Some that aren't exclusive even.

    Soul Sacrifice Delta and Oreshika Tainted Bloodline are exclusives that were only released in English in the Asian regions, being probably the most expensive on the system. Sword Art Online Hollow Fragment is exclusive physically, originally released on Vita and that one is higher priced. Then others released in the west like Dungeon Travelers 2, Demon Gaze, etc. Then you've got ones that aren't exclusive but highly sought Vita titles, Final Fantasy 10-2 can be purchased physically on PS4, but the Vita version in the west only includes a voucher so a lot of people want this one. Then there's English Asian versions of both PS4 and Vita releases of Super Robot Wars V, SD Gundam G Generation Genesis as well as others(the Vita having many that haven't had a US release) which I'm sure will be high priced eventually on both consoles. The Vita version of SD Gundam G Generation Genesis is the only two card Vita game, install card and game card, so I think that reason alone might increase the cost of that game once more Vita collectors know about it. Obviously the NIS retail exclusives, LRG releases, etc will be expensive as well.

    The Vita might be a massive disappointment that no one bought, but because of that it'll also probably be the most collectible of all the failures.
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    The collector trend from social media seems to be vast but here are generally what people collect for

    1. Complete set collector for specific system (WiiU, Vita, switch & etc)
    2. Collect only their favorite franchise. They want to get every game release, variant and memorabilia
    3. Rare title that worth money from various system. IE: PS2 collector constantly display rule of rose, haunting ground and ku-on as their rarest games that worth money.
    4. LGR, strictly limited, and many other limited release games
    5. limited version console/handheld. Some collector aiming for complete N64, DS, 3ds and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScourDX View Post
    The collector trend from social media seems to be vast but here are generally what people collect for

    1. Complete set collector for specific system (WiiU, Vita, switch & etc)
    2. Collect only their favorite franchise. They want to get every game release, variant and memorabilia
    3. Rare title that worth money from various system. IE: PS2 collector constantly display rule of rose, haunting ground and ku-on as their rarest games that worth money.
    4. LGR, strictly limited, and many other limited release games
    5. limited version console/handheld. Some collector aiming for complete N64, DS, 3ds and etc.
    What happened to the collectors who focussed on collecting their favourite games to play on various consoles? Normal people you'd actually want to talk to?

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    People who buy any random games on any random systems just based on what looks appealing to them generally don't regard themselves as collectors. They're just regular gamers. Collectors have some sort of framework behind what they're looking to buy beyond "stuff I like to play".

    There's nothing wrong with people who collect full sets, rare games, hardware variants, etc. Those are the kinds of people that this forum was made by and for.

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    At first I wanted to collect a complete sega saturn collection. Once I started seeing the sports games pile up and looking at my listof games I still need, there are only about 5-10 games out of maybe 60 left in the library that I care to own. I'd say I am in the collector group that wants to only buy games that intrigue me and are at a good price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    I wouldn't put any money on Labo becoming collectible mostly because I see hordes of them still being sealed in the next 15 to 20 years and no one wanting to buy them because there's no nostalgia for something no one used
    Labo actually has the potential to become even more collectible than most of its contemporaries. Yes, its a dud, but A) its a dud by Nintendo; even their failures tend to become sought after and even celebrated. B) its an actual, physical object. This is kind of thing that can collect dust at a pawn shop or Goodwill until some "Nostalgia Gamer" talking head discovers it and the internet lemmings run out and invert the supply/demand relationship 10 years from now.

    Of the other modern stuff floating out there. I think that 'mini' consoles will have something of a collector status, with CIB unhacked versions being at the top of the heap. Regular modern consoles themselves will have something also, with the added wrinkle of being fragile and increasingly harder to repair as time goes on.

    As for the games themselves, anything that comes with feelies will have something of a premium. Not 'collector/legendary/GOTY' versions, I mean stuff that comes with soundtrack CDs, busts, things of that nature. How desirable a regular copy will be probably be dependent on how easy it is to play it. We might see something like consoles being sold with desirable games with all the files and patches in the hard drive, "ready to play" as collector's items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    What happened to the collectors who focussed on collecting their favourite games to play on various consoles? Normal people you'd actually want to talk to?
    Unfortunately everyone wants to be cool and hip. In most of the collectors Iíve encounter like to keep their game sealed and never play them. It is sad this is what collector has become. Everyone wants to own rare title and hope to cash it at later date.

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    has any one said Wii U stuff yet, i could see some of that becoming sought after considering it wasnt a bad console.

    Also Digimon Story games seem to be kind of flying under the radar, i could see them being like .Hack for PS2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    People who buy any random games on any random systems just based on what looks appealing to them generally don't regard themselves as collectors. They're just regular gamers. Collectors have some sort of framework behind what they're looking to buy beyond "stuff I like to play".

    There's nothing wrong with people who collect full sets, rare games, hardware variants, etc. Those are the kinds of people that this forum was made by and for.
    This forum was made because it's based on their store front for people who buy and sell games, collectors and gamers alike.

    But just because people like to enjoy the titles that they collect means they're not collectors? I want to collect anything and everything that's looks like it could be a fairly good game. Yes, it has to be something that interests me, but you don't get to have over 200 "retail" PS4 games by not being interested in collecting. What's the point in spending more money for a retail than just purchasing it for a few dollars if you were "just a gamer."
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    Uhhhhh this site was created LONG before the Digital Press store ever existed.

    Your poor reading comprehension strikes again. I never said collectors can't enjoy what they collect, nor did I ever say I would dictate who can and can't identify as a collector. If somebody owns five games and still wants to identify as a collector, that's no skin off my nose. My point is that collectors usually try to get as many games as they can get. If something is real cheap, they'll give it a shot, whether it's something they've heard of or not, or even if it's something that doesn't seem super appealing to them. They'll buy just about any game in their favorite genres, they'll collect merch for their favorite games, they'll go after full sets for their favorite systems, etc. etc. These are the kinds of things collectors do, and those are the sorts of people this site has always catered to. Anybody who has a problem with people who participate in the hobby in that sort of way is frankly at the wrong place. There are plenty of places online where people collect and play more "casually", by just looking for games they want to play, playing through them, and then finding the next game they want to play, no different than gamers who don't identify as collectors.
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    If you have one person that has 721 SNES games and only that, he's a full set collector. But if you have someone who has over 200 SNES games, over 200 NES games, over 200 Genesis games, over 200 PS1 games, over 200 PS2 games, over 1000 games, that person's not a collector if s/he only purchases the games that s/he enjoys. Who's the elitist?

    Some people just don't like wasting money on shit games. I personally want a collection of games that I can pick up and play literally any of them and enjoy them. There are some that I keep that I don't really like much or at all, but I still own them for various reasons(example is Valkyrie Profile or Vagrant Story) while there are others that I don't want in my library and sell them. With as many good games that are out there, I dont have the time or the funds to collect every pos as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScourDX View Post
    Unfortunately everyone wants to be cool and hip. In most of the collectors Iíve encounter like to keep their game sealed and never play them. It is sad this is what collector has become. Everyone wants to own rare title and hope to cash it at later date.
    It's kind of a shame really. I remember back when people created threads asking about "What are good games for <insert console>?" or "What are good <insert genre> type games?". People also bought up cheap games for a few bucks and tried them out, finding decent games that would otherwise be overlooked and ignored. Only some collectors went for complete console collections and people sold and traded stuff for cheap between collectors. Now everything is about finding rare/valuable games just to flip for a profit. Or making it seem like every random generic game has an extreme amount of historical significance.

    Of course I also kept an eye out for rare games if by chance I'd come across them for cheap, rare stuff is interesting for various reasons. But I didn't keep every rare game I found if they were really terrible to play. I mostly just kept games worth playing, with a few exceptions. Way back I focussed more on the rarity ratings using the guide here than the dollar amount of the games. It was cooler to find an R6 or R7 for $5 than a game worth $60 or $100 for $5, now the focus is almost exclusively just on monetary value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    If you have one person that has 721 SNES games and only that, he's a full set collector. But if you have someone who has over 200 SNES games, over 200 NES games, over 200 Genesis games, over 200 PS1 games, over 200 PS2 games, over 1000 games, that person's not a collector if s/he only purchases the games that s/he enjoys. Who's the elitist?

    Some people just don't like wasting money on shit games. I personally want a collection of games that I can pick up and play literally any of them and enjoy them. There are some that I keep that I don't really like much or at all, but I still own them for various reasons(example is Valkyrie Profile or Vagrant Story) while there are others that I don't want in my library and sell them. With as many good games that are out there, I dont have the time or the funds to collect every pos as well.
    See, this is how I collect. I became a collector in the first place because I was raised in a situation where I didn't rent games. I received them as presents and kept them, just replaying the same ones many times and becoming better at them. By the end of high school I had over 300. So I have a lot of favorites. I also like to try new experiences on old or new systems and add games to the list of those I desire. I'm in my early 30s now and I don't even know the rough number of games I've become attached to anymore.

    I used to collect video games more heavily but I got tired of storing things I didn't appreciate and wanted more variety in my life. With only so much room and multiple collecting interests besides video games, I have to give and take with my other hobbies. Video games are my #1 but I'd rather have room for my audio/video tape transferring equipment, my bass guitars, rare local cds, and other odds and ends I think are cool instead of one or two additional video game shelves that are just going to hold genres I don't like or games with terrible play control.

    I've become a more casual collector in the sense that I buy what I like to play, but I do spend good money on trying to get decent condition CIB copies of ultimate favorites and have at least one version of most of the US released game systems as well as multiple versions of certain ones. I will also hang onto variations of games I already have if I find them, but I also don't rush to ebay to buy every single one individually. I'd rather have the next game I want than another copy of the same thing that just looks different. I will also rebuy the same games on different consoles and use them as an excuse to play the game again.

    I will also grab cheap game consoles at thrift stores, make sure they work and resell them with extra games I found so I can get more money to buy games and systems I will never find there. If I buy 5 PlayStation 2 sets for $20 or so over time and sell them for $50 each on facebook marketplace, I can get all my money back and go buy another Neo Geo MVS game.
    [quote name='Shidou Mariya' date='Nov 17 2010, 10:05 PM' post='4889940']
    I'm a collector, but only to a certain extent.
    Not as extreme as Rickstilwell though.[/quote]


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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    If you have one person that has 721 SNES games and only that, he's a full set collector. But if you have someone who has over 200 SNES games, over 200 NES games, over 200 Genesis games, over 200 PS1 games, over 200 PS2 games, over 1000 games, that person's not a collector if s/he only purchases the games that s/he enjoys. Who's the elitist?
    If anybody in this topic had said anything remotely like that, then, sure, go ahead and call them an elitist.

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