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    Don't worry, bb_hood, that isn't the final design. The Engadget video shows the final three designs which are much better. I personally like the white controller the best, the black one is too generic for me, and the sea-green one looks bad in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    The controller looks pretty much fine to me, it's like most PS1-current style controllers. It's not the worst controller a console came with.



    I'm just voicing my opinion as a part of the discussion. I looked into a topic about a new console, only the details mentioned were disappointing to me so I gave my opinion.

    I usually stay away from the bigger channels too, only occasionally I watch some of Jim Sterling's stuff if they're short. Basically he talks about how the modern industry is focussing on micro-transactions, overpriced DLC, loot boxes(gambling), and treating employees like garbage(including layoffs after completing a project) all in the name of profit. They're not games anymore, they're "live services". I also just found out how Dead Or Alive 6 has it's season pass priced at $92.99, which is on top of the cost of the game. Who can afford games costing $100+?


    Copyright infringement is different from shoplifting, at least it used to be classified differently under the law in certain regions. Ashens described various anti-piracy ads from back in the day, I skipped ahead to the relevant part. It's not the same thing. Also if you can't sell something(even at a loss), lend it out, or give it away, it has zero monetary value in my eyes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFd60nCBygg&t=5m5s


    I agree that people need to be charged and held accountable for their crimes. I disagree that every piece of content that they ever touched needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Maybe remove their ability to profit from their creations. Firing people off of shows or movies so they're out of work, that's fine. Of course they're fired before actually being proven guilty, essentially having their lives and reputations ruined when there's a chance that some are actually innocent. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

    Now is the time to remove Michael Jackson's Simpsons episode, so that his dead corpse can no longer profit off of it. He didn't make the entire episode by himself though, so every person who worked on the script, animation, other voice acting, etc, no longer have their work and contributions appreciated. Possibly hundreds of people. What about their profit? This is clearly really about public opinion, if the public is upset with something and doesn't want to pay for it because of someone involved in it, then they change it or ban it to remove that negativity. When companies get involved, it's about money.

    Also nobody has mentioned banning the Naked Gun movies when OJ Simpson is in them. Although he's a murderer, so maybe that gets a pass from people compared to sexual assault. There's no consistency with backlash, basically whatever is currently trending is what gets peoples attention and outrage. There's currently no sweeping motion to go through every piece of media in existence to remove any that had someone questionable involved with.


    I'm going to question who here has ever played a fan translated game, or played an unreleased prototype? So much content would be currently lost if not for people violating various copyrights. This was all considered to be disposable at one point when it became outdated and obsolete. Also the only reason the Star Wars Holiday Special survives is because of people who copied and shared it over the years, same with the uncut Talespin pilot movie.

    I just don't see a reason to reward modern companies that keep finding ways to take away more consumer rights. With download only media you can't sell or trade them when you're done, or lend them out to friends. It's like they found ways to sell pet rocks again.

    For the most part I'm mostly talking about shows or movies rather than games, there's few modern games that interest me and my PC can't run a lot of them anyway. A lot of the time various shows are available to watch online legally for free, only they're not streaming in Canada or the site's player doesn't work in my browser, which is when I look elsewhere to watch them. Am I going to bother downloading a whole bunch of various streaming software like Crunchyroll or Netflix to fill up my hard drive with bloated unneeded software? No, I like keeping my system lean, and I hate signing up for various online accounts which could become compromised or hacked. It's just a hassle I'd gladly avoid. If I do like something, I'll still buy a legit physical release assuming one is available.

    I mostly just watch free content on youtube anyway. It's pretty much just as good as most TV shows.


    I'm not fully convinced Michael Jackson actually did it, he still could have but as nothing was actually conclusively proven it's still unknown. Sure he was weird, but he seemed more like an asexual who felt nothing sexual towards anybody, he just acted like a kid with his theme park based house. That was my impression anyway, I never met him and I doubt anybody on the forum did either so it's all just an opinion.


    Very true, it's just appreciated in a very different way now compared to how it used to be. There's more interest in new hardware to play existing games on new monitors and TVs than interest in the games themselves, or new homebrew releases for old consoles. I view it the same way as old stereo equipment, you can still buy new turntables but if you want a good quality one, it's best to just get an old one from the 70's and refurbish it. I feel the same way about video game consoles where I personally would want original hardware. People can do what they want, it's just not that exciting to me to hear about yet another way to play old console games.
    I Googled "is Michael Jackson asexual?" and this came up:

    https://www.quora.com/Was-Michael-Jackson-asexual

    So you have photographic evidence that the men is aroused by women (also, he fathered several children- hard to do if one is asexual). Is your argument that he was only asexual when he was sleeping in the same bed as minors?

    The hush money payments? I cant wrap my head around paying off people who are supposedly making up lies about you.

    Michael Jackson was a very sexual man, youd have to be living under a rock not to see that, or have never even listened to any of the lyrics in his songs. Even if we cant agree on whether he had sex with kids, can we at least agree that the man had normal functioning genitalia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nz17 View Post
    Don't worry, bb_hood, that isn't the final design. The Engadget video shows the final three designs which are much better. I personally like the white controller the best, the black one is too generic for me, and the sea-green one looks bad in my eyes.
    I hope you're right. That thing looks less like a controller and more like a generic, cutesy caricature some graphic designer cooked up so he could talk about gaming without getting C and D'd. Those protuberances at either end look uncomfortable to boot.

    Anyway, I'm not even sure how this beast is going to create interest, much less become a competitive entry in the market. Come bundled with a game-maker that exploits GIS so would-be devs can steal assets faster than ever before?

    I can see the partnership with Sega. This does sound an awful lot like the kind of quixotic denial of reality that Sega adores.
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    This article answered some of the latency questions I had...

    https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/20/wh...ming-platform/

    The article states <70ms...supposedly good enough for most people, IFF you live near one of their datacenters that is. For anyone else it's a no go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    I Googled "is Michael Jackson asexual?" and this came up:

    https://www.quora.com/Was-Michael-Jackson-asexual

    So you have photographic evidence that the men is aroused by women (also, he fathered several children- hard to do if one is asexual). Is your argument that he was only asexual when he was sleeping in the same bed as minors?

    The hush money payments? I cant wrap my head around paying off people who are supposedly making up lies about you.

    Michael Jackson was a very sexual man, youd have to be living under a rock not to see that, or have never even listened to any of the lyrics in his songs. Even if we cant agree on whether he had sex with kids, can we at least agree that the man had normal functioning genitalia?
    That's more than I spent looking into his sexuality. I guess he's not completely devoid of sexual interest so I was wrong about that, still from the link you posted he was mostly into adult women and extensive amounts of pornography featuring adult women was found at his home. That doesn't suggest he was sexually into young boys.

    He had kids but I didn't think he was the biological father, they don't look like him. Even if he was the father, a person can have sex to have kids without actually finding the process attractive. Plenty of gay men and women have families too, the same is true with asexuals.

    Hush money payments could be from blackmail. Plenty of people would just pay to keep rumours away whether or not they were true, even a rumour could damage or destroy a career or reputation. Again, it could all be true, or it still could not.

    While I was wrong about him not having any sexual drive, he could still be asexual. There's a large range with asexuals, with some not having any sex drive at all, and others wanting to do almost everything except actual penetration, and plenty in between. Plenty of asexuals view porn too, and masturbate. This is about actually wanting to have physical sex with another person, romantic attraction is also separate from sexual attraction, a person could want to be in a romantic relationship with a spouse and still not want to have sex with that person(and still might or might not have sex anyway to keep that person happy). Sexual orientation is very complex today as more of it is better understood.

    No idea why having a functional penis means a person can't be asexual. It's like saying a person can't be gay because their penis is working. It's just about who they find sexually attractive.


    This is so off topic from Google's new console. Although there's a partnership with Sega and Sega was tied closely to Michael Jackson at one point so that's something. Maybe a future port of the Moonwalker arcade game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    That's more than I spent looking into his sexuality. I guess he's not completely devoid of sexual interest so I was wrong about that, still from the link you posted he was mostly into adult women and extensive amounts of pornography featuring adult women was found at his home. That doesn't suggest he was sexually into young boys.

    He had kids but I didn't think he was the biological father, they don't look like him. Even if he was the father, a person can have sex to have kids without actually finding the process attractive. Plenty of gay men and women have families too, the same is true with asexuals.

    Hush money payments could be from blackmail. Plenty of people would just pay to keep rumours away whether or not they were true, even a rumour could damage or destroy a career or reputation. Again, it could all be true, or it still could not.

    While I was wrong about him not having any sexual drive, he could still be asexual. There's a large range with asexuals, with some not having any sex drive at all, and others wanting to do almost everything except actual penetration, and plenty in between. Plenty of asexuals view porn too, and masturbate. This is about actually wanting to have physical sex with another person, romantic attraction is also separate from sexual attraction, a person could want to be in a romantic relationship with a spouse and still not want to have sex with that person(and still might or might not have sex anyway to keep that person happy). Sexual orientation is very complex today as more of it is better understood.

    No idea why having a functional penis means a person can't be asexual. It's like saying a person can't be gay because their penis is working. It's just about who they find sexually attractive.


    This is so off topic from Google's new console. Although there's a partnership with Sega and Sega was tied closely to Michael Jackson at one point so that's something. Maybe a future port of the Moonwalker arcade game?
    If he was so into women, youd think he wouldve spent more time in bed with them, rather than teenage boys.

    Whats more logical? Multiple people lying about what he did to/with them in graphic detail or the fact that he did what countless people have done throughout history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    If he was so into women, youd think he wouldve spent more time in bed with them, rather than teenage boys.
    I was just going by the link you posted, and what you yourself commented. "So you have photographic evidence that the men is aroused by women". You're arguing against your own evidence.

    The sharing the same bed is weird but that's why he just seemed asexual to me, like he thought it was the same as sharing a bed with a sibling the way small kids do. He just seemed like a kid who owned his own arcade and amusement park. That's how he came across to me anyway.

    Just searching very quickly now, a psychology professor suggests that one of the original accusers may have false memories as he only started accusing him after he was given sodium amytal during a dental appointment with his father(who was a dentist). Like I said, it might have happened, or maybe not.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...false-memories

    Even the current accusers are people who previously tried to sue the estate and write several books for profit(only making accusations after he was dead, following years of previously defending him), and several of the things now claimed mirror stories originally claimed by Victor Gutuirrez who was discredited years ago. I basically have some doubts to their credibility, so I'm not fully convinced either way. I'm not saying it definitely didn't happen, I'm just not convinced it definitely did.

    And this is more than I planned to bother researching this subject. I'd rather not continue derailing this thread any further with non video game related discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameguy View Post
    I was just going by the link you posted, and what you yourself commented. "So you have photographic evidence that the men is aroused by women". You're arguing against your own evidence.

    The sharing the same bed is weird but that's why he just seemed asexual to me, like he thought it was the same as sharing a bed with a sibling the way small kids do. He just seemed like a kid who owned his own arcade and amusement park. That's how he came across to me anyway.

    Just searching very quickly now, a psychology professor suggests that one of the original accusers may have false memories as he only started accusing him after he was given sodium amytal during a dental appointment with his father(who was a dentist). Like I said, it might have happened, or maybe not.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...false-memories

    Even the current accusers are people who previously tried to sue the estate and write several books for profit(only making accusations after he was dead, following years of previously defending him), and several of the things now claimed mirror stories originally claimed by Victor Gutuirrez who was discredited years ago. I basically have some doubts to their credibility, so I'm not fully convinced either way. I'm not saying it definitely didn't happen, I'm just not convinced it definitely did.

    And this is more than I planned to bother researching this subject. I'd rather not continue derailing this thread any further with non video game related discussion.
    okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    can we at least agree that the man had normal functioning genitalia?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0O6SW1QHnM&t=216s

    he probably diddnt.

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