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    Unhappy Original SEGA Genesis 6-button Controllers with the Mode Button Versus Other Controllers

    Where have all the original SEGA Genesis 6-button controllers with the Mode button gone? I see newer "SEGA" ones without the Mode button, and the official SEGA / Retro-bit ones with the Mode button, and unofficial Retro-bit ones without the Mode button, and other old third-party ones with or without the Mode button, and unofficial, unbranded ones without the Mode button on eBay and Amazon. However finding old original ones with the Mode button is proving to be quite a challenge, and even if you find one, the sellers want to be paid much more than for the rest.

    Are these other, newer ones without the Mode button worth it? I've heard that many of these are too small (only 75% the size of the original or less) or they have really short cords (only 3 feet long) or they have buttons that shift or rattle or the X-Y-Z buttons are lousy or the D-pad is poor.

    Which controllers are good and which ones should be avoided? Thanks.

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    I don't see any Sega Genesis controllers for sale anymore, the ones I have I purchased years ago. I mostly just use the 3 button controllers anyway but the 6 button ones I have are the old official ones from Sega, I wouldn't trust 3rd party knockoff ones to feel right.

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    Those newer knockoffs without the mode button often peddled by sellers from China and HK are absolute total garbage. The cords are like 2 feet long, the buttons are dull, milky gray that don't quite fit the holes, and the responsiveness is atrocious. I'd rather not play at all than use those.

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    I took a chance on the officially licensed Retro-Bit six-button arcade pad when I needed to pick up a second six-button controller recently. I'm glad I did. I don't know how they did it, but it's almost identical to the original. It looks the same, it feels the same, and I've had absolutely no issues with it at all. If you don't want to pay the ridiculous prices for an original, this is worth picking up.

    http://retro-bit.com/sega-collaboration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nz17 View Post
    Where have all the original SEGA Genesis 6-button controllers with the Mode button gone? I see newer "SEGA" ones without the Mode button, and the official SEGA / Retro-bit ones with the Mode button, and unofficial Retro-bit ones without the Mode button, and other old third-party ones with or without the Mode button, and unofficial, unbranded ones without the Mode button on eBay and Amazon. However finding old original ones with the Mode button is proving to be quite a challenge, and even if you find one, the sellers want to be paid much more than for the rest.

    Are these other, newer ones without the Mode button worth it? I've heard that many of these are too small (only 75% the size of the original or less) or they have really short cords (only 3 feet long) or they have buttons that shift or rattle or the X-Y-Z buttons are lousy or the D-pad is poor.

    Which controllers are good and which ones should be avoided? Thanks.
    I have like 3 or 4 of the smaller genesis 6 button controllers with the mode button. I like the smaller size, cord size is ok, and D-pad is pretty good.
    The only function of the Mode button I know of is when starting up Forgotten Worlds, sometimes you need to hold it down.

    I would avoid any 3rd party genesis controllers.

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    Isn't there a lot of variation in D pad construction between official controllers? With some being more preferred than others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb_hood View Post
    I have like 3 or 4 of the smaller genesis 6 button controllers with the mode button. I like the smaller size, cord size is ok, and D-pad is pretty good.
    The only function of the Mode button I know of is when starting up Forgotten Worlds, sometimes you need to hold it down.

    I would avoid any 3rd party genesis controllers.
    Actually the mode button can be useful for other games.... my nephew had some Power Rangers game which behaved all wonk with a six-button, unless you start up while holding down mode (which puts it in 3-button mode). I've seeen this behavior in other games too, so I usually use 3-button unless the game specifically requires six.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire 51 View Post
    I took a chance on the officially licensed Retro-Bit six-button arcade pad when I needed to pick up a second six-button controller recently. I'm glad I did. I don't know how they did it, but it's almost identical to the original. It looks the same, it feels the same, and I've had absolutely no issues with it at all. If you don't want to pay the ridiculous prices for an original, this is worth picking up.

    http://retro-bit.com/sega-collaboration
    i was going to mention this.

    these controllers are pretty damn near the OGs

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    Quote Originally Posted by jb143 View Post
    Isn't there a lot of variation in D pad construction between official controllers? With some being more preferred than others?
    Having had a few over the years I'd say there are at least a few of them out there. Some of them have especially shoddy d-pads
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb143 View Post
    Isn't there a lot of variation in D pad construction between official controllers? With some being more preferred than others?
    Yes, they gradually became worse over the life of the console. The best are the ones that first came with the system, these have red lettering. Later they switched to white lettering, and later they started shortening the cords on these. The overall build quality started to decline along with these more noticeable changes. From ones I've used over the years, the earlier the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    Actually the mode button can be useful for other games.... my nephew had some Power Rangers game which behaved all wonk with a six-button, unless you start up while holding down mode (which puts it in 3-button mode). I've seeen this behavior in other games too, so I usually use 3-button unless the game specifically requires six.
    So am I the only person this kind of thing has ever happened to? Because nobody else has described anything like it and I even see a number of other posts claiming that 6-button controllers will work just fine with 3-button games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond Dantes View Post
    So am I the only person this kind of thing has ever happened to?
    There's a handful of specific older games, maybe a dozen out of the library of hundreds, that are not compatible with the 6 button controller unless you hold the mode button in when you power the system on (which sets it into 3 button compatibility mode). Off the top of my head; Forgotten Worlds, King of the Monsters, Ms. Pac-Man, and Golden Axe II were the ones I own that required that.

    I guess if you're dying to play Ms. Pac-Man on Genesis but you only have a cheapo knockoff 6 button controller with no mode button, then you're SOL. Then again if you're in that situation you've probably died and woke up in some type of Chinese hell.

    There's a few games where the mode button is actually used as a regular action button, or the equivalent of the SNES select button, but those are rare as hen's teeth. The only one I can think of is Fatal Fury 2 (and maybe Special) that used it as a taunt button.

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    If its only older games then what was the issue with that Power Rangers game (I think it was just called Mighty Morphin Power Rangers... it was a one-plane beat-em-up like the SNES one, not a fighting game)? Cuz like I said, that one was glitching like a mofo until I tried holding in the mode button or using a 3-button controller.

    Tho I have had a weird experience where games that wonk will work fine if they're on a chinese multicart. Not sure why that would matter.

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