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    Default Best console purely from a hardware standpoint?

    It is hard to give a subjective opinion without regarding a console's library but if you can, please rank your favorite consoles simply on merits of...

    - reliability
    - ease of use
    - features
    - ease of repair
    - ergonomics
    - aesthetic appeal
    - controllers

    I just replaced the clock battery on my Gamecube. It is a launch system meaning my mom bought it in November 2001. The clock just couldnt keep up. It was very easy to replace it. And it got me thinking. The system has worked perfectly beyond just the battery. The laser hasn't needed replacing, buttons all work, etc. And all in all it is a sturdy and well built system. I remember when it came out people criticized the color and the handle but it does make moving it around easier.

    The controllers hold up really well even though my Wavebirds arent working properly. But I cant knock any points for that.

    This was really the last system they made before console breakdowns became the norm. Im not sure if they had outlawed lead components at this point and thats the reason or what.

    The only other systems that I feel have aged just as gracefully and were just all around perfect for gaming are the GBA SP, and the slim PS2. The opening top door on the console meant it was less prone to failure, the system was quiet, and just all around was sturdy. The same cant be said for the Xbox which sounds like a jet engine taking off and whose capacitors have been known to leak and cause motherboard damage (havent heard of this being an issue with other consoles yet as of this typing.)

    Sega never really made a truly good system that can stand the test of time but Id say the Genesis model 2 has fared pretty well. I havent player a Saturn.

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    Based on the criteria you've mentioned then it has to be any given cartridge machine. 20 - 35 years later and you pull one of those out of the closet and they still just load a game immediately. The end. The only variation then becomes what's your preference of aesthetic? The streamlined design of the NES, or the race-car Genesis to the Porsche looking TG16.

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    well with the NES I feel I spend more time trying to get the game to work than actually playing. and it the console is bumped slightly it seems like its game over at that point. even if you leave it paused too long the system locks up

    The TG16 seems to hold up really well as does the Master System

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    well with the NES I feel I spend more time trying to get the game to work than actually playing. and it the console is bumped slightly it seems like its game over at that point. even if you leave it paused too long the system locks up

    The TG16 seems to hold up really well as does the Master System
    The NES isn't bad as long as the pin connector is cleaned properly, I have a good quality 3rd party cleaning kit that works great. I did have a system that had a graphics encoder chip die on me, at least all the graphics got screwed up no matter what game I played and no matter how much I cleaned the system the problem wouldn't go away. Everything booted right away without flashing but just looked messed up.

    Funny you should mention the Master System as I think you've reminded me that one of the systems I had needed to have the cart connector resoldered to the board as it couldn't boot cartridge games. Assuming my memory is accurate and it actually happened. It was a repairable fault though. I found a TG16 with a broken RF output once, and a defective copy of Keith Courage with messed up graphics.

    The slim PS2 has a laptop quality disc drive, it's not exactly that durable with heavy usage. As for the GBA SP, I've come across various systems with dead backlights/frontlights, dead shoulder buttons, bloated batteries, a mostly dead system board that only worked if you applied pressure a certain way, horribly scratched up screens, etc.

    Really I can't think of a console that's completely durable as I've always come across defective ones at some point, but the Atari 2600 comes to mind in terms of top reliability. Most just work fine and considering the age of most consoles it says something.

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    as far as cartridge based systems.....i've never had a problem with my super nintendo or my toploading NES model 2...disc based systems....ps2 phat still runs like a champ although the disc drive is a little noisy when opening/closing.....

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    From a randomly buying cheap consoles at the flea market and seeing if it will just plug and play standpoint, I've seemed to have had the least amount of trouble with sega genesis systems. If just speaking of Sega; the Sega CD and 32X is a different story. I've done minor DIY repairs to those. Saturns are usually fine sans the dead memory battery. Dreamcast I've just recently been noticing controller drift and other controller issues lately.

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    For all of these factors (except ease of repair, I'm too much of a pussy to open up my consoles), I'd say the Nintendo 64 would be one of the best. It's quite reliable, it looks good, and the analog controllers are quite well done.
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    You guys might think I'm nuts but for ease of repair I'd go with the original PSOne. I used to solder chips onto that board - very easy to work with, but the real truth is that most failure comes from the disc drive, which you can replace. If a cartridge based system fails you, normally the entire board is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpxl View Post
    It is hard to give a subjective opinion without regarding a console's library but if you can, please rank your favorite consoles simply on merits of...

    - reliability
    - ease of use
    - features
    - ease of repair
    - ergonomics
    - aesthetic appeal
    - controllers
    I'm going to give an answer for both consoles and portables

    For consoles it's the 60GB PS3. Sadly this thing is hot, but it plays everything the top two consoles of all time and also plays PS3 games on top of that. That alone earns the place in the top spot.

    For handheld, it's the 3DS XL or the New 3DS XL. Now the 3DS XL has better ergonomics, however the New 3DS XL still has good ergonomics while having a better screen, more power to run specific games better, and head tracking so you don't have to sit perfectly to get the 3D effect, an effect that I absolutely love. Not only that, but it plays the entire DS library. Now as long as you get the better IPS screen, the washed out color on the original 3DS is more vibrant for all games and the lower reslution DS games blown up look look excellent on the top screen, they're identical to their past selves on the bottom screen since it's the exact same as the bottom screen on the DS.

    The DS can play DS and GBA games, but while it can play both, the topic was also about the hardware, and I think the ability to play DS and 3DS games, even though combined are worse than the former, the better ergonomics and the ability to play games in 3D put it above. If going by games though, I'd definitely say the DS Phat is better than the New 3DS XL as GBA has so many amazing games.
    Everything in the above post is opinion unless stated otherwise.

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    NES has to be the worst cartage system simply because of the reliability issues. I do not know anyone who had a NES who did not have issue with the contacts going bad.

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