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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    Yet another remaster was announced, Xenoblade Chronicles X is one of the last Wii U games that hasn't been ported to the Switch with the exception of the Wind Waker and Twilight Princess and the very rare game like Mario Party 8 which was a terrible game yet has received several better sequels on the Switch or Tank! Tank! Tank!, the tech demo launch title Nintendo Land. and all those shovelware games Nintendo pushed onto the Wii U in the last two years of its life like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival that is hardly even a game.

    Nintendo basically said fuck you to anyone who ever supported the Wii U, and all because of their failure to popularize the console with practically nothing but a tech demo to sell the console for months and the worst drip feed of worthwhile games we've seen outside of the Vita. Passing the loss of the failed console onto everyone who supported them, thanks Nintendo, if you're not screwing us by lying to us about never having an XL version of your handheld so that we buy into the original model only to announce thee XL literally a week later instead of a couple years after that quote, you're phoning it in within two years of the life of a console that you released while you push to have a new one released ASAP, the Switch was released four years after the Wii U, but that doesn't mean that we got four years out of the Wii U as a console with the last two years having almost no releases but shovelware from Nintendo themselves. Now with all the worthwhile games on the Switch, the Wii U and the entire library of anyone who owns the Wii U, is basically meaningless. Unless you've got someone like me who sees value using the Wii U as the ultimate Nintendo emulator because of the Wii U pad and the TV being true dual screen support for DS emulation, it is by far Nintendo's worst console. It has literally no identity of its own as it lost all of that when everything worthwhile no longer exists as an exclusive.
    I never expected,Xenoblade Chronicles X to get a port since the game was a commercial failure.Still fans have been asking for a switch port of it for years now.I guess whatever monolith soft is working on next is keeping them busy so i guess a port of x is to keep fans happy until then.I completed the original on wiii-u so i don't know if i'll bother with the switch port.
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    I'll probably get Xenobade X despite having it on Wii U and never getting into it. I find Xenoblade 2 and 3 to be JRPG masterpieces so X deserves another look.

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    You guys are such whiners, honestly all things considered I don't mind HD Remasters and ports. There are so many games out there now that I have not played, I didn't buy my switch until the end of 2023, and just got around to playing things like Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario Odyssey effectively 8-10 years after release. If a game is good, it deserves a port and a potential new audience.

    But most of all, what is stopping new games from being developed is that there are old games that are excellent and standing the test of time. Movies and music industry are running into this problem as well. There are so many great old games out there that it has become a competition of a consumer dusting off forgotten classics and competing with, like someone said earlier in this thread, new games that are total trash. Dustborn and Concord cost tens of millions of dollars. Nintendo rerelases Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy and makes hundreds of millions of dollars.

    https://kotaku.com/old-games-2023-playtime-data-fortnite-roblox-minecraft-1851382474

    Statistics like these are why Nintendo will rerelease even a commercial dud like Xenoblade Chronicles X in the hope that it sells better on Switch than create a new game that is a total question mark. Far less investment for something that 95% of people didn't play the first time around. Its a win win for consumers and businesses in my view.
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    I am going to man-splain this.. Just ignore the ports

    Just focus on stuff you have not seen. Checkout the port if you can but beyond that your better then that method of thinking.

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    I don't have a problem with this generation or the amount of remakes, but i will concede the validity of the OP's post. I buy the remakes and wonder if I should play the original game on the original hardware first for the authentic experience. Or take whatever advantages the modern update has and then decide if it's worth playing the old school experience as well. I'm kind of grateful for this dilemma, truth be told.

    As for the lack of AAA games I came across an interesting read on the topic at IGN
    https://www.ign.com/articles/the-blo...bble-has-burst

    But looking forward I see quite a few new RPG's coming, so there's that anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    On top of all that, modern games don't drop in price as much as they did. You can't wait a year for the games to drop to $20 and in most of these case, they don't ever drop so no matter how long you wait you're just going to be paying more.

    Unless you're a Nintendo shill and only buy Nintendo games, then congratulations, nothing at all feels different, you're used to paying out the ass for Nintendo games.
    I used to collect video games for a hobby and price drops were the only way I could afford the hobby. While I have noticed fewer price drops post pandemic, it seems to be improving a bit. Elden Ring is under $20 as is Assassin's Creed Mirage, Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Forespoken, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Marvel's Midnight Suns, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, Skull and Bones, Tales Arise, Tina's Wonderlands, and Wildhearts. But you are right, this doesn't happen for most Switch games.

    The one the made me feel foolish was the Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster Collection. I missed purchasing it at Square Enix, developed FOMO even though I have never played a Final Fantasy game in my life. Bought the Asian English version for the Switch because that was all that was available for awhile. Then there was a reprint and I bought the PS4 version I had wanted all the while and now that game has price dropped substantially making me feel like a complete fool.

    Because of my age, the length of time it takes me to finish games and my backlog, I'm not anxious about the future. But I really would not argue with anything you have said on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    I don't have a problem with this generation or the amount of remakes, but i will concede the validity of the OP's post. I buy the remakes and wonder if I should play the original game on the original hardware first for the authentic experience. Or take whatever advantages the modern update has and then decide if it's worth playing the old school experience as well. I'm kind of grateful for this dilemma, truth be told.

    As for the lack of AAA games I came across an interesting read on the topic at IGN
    https://www.ign.com/articles/the-blo...bble-has-burst

    But looking forward I see quite a few new RPG's coming, so there's that anyway.




    I used to collect video games for a hobby and price drops were the only way I could afford the hobby. While I have noticed fewer price drops post pandemic, it seems to be improving a bit. Elden Ring is under $20 as is Assassin's Creed Mirage, Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Forespoken, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Marvel's Midnight Suns, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, Skull and Bones, Tales Arise, Tina's Wonderlands, and Wildhearts. But you are right, this doesn't happen for most Switch games.

    The one the made me feel foolish was the Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster Collection. I missed purchasing it at Square Enix, developed FOMO even though I have never played a Final Fantasy game in my life. Bought the Asian English version for the Switch because that was all that was available for awhile. Then there was a reprint and I bought the PS4 version I had wanted all the while and now that game has price dropped substantially making me feel like a complete fool.

    Because of my age, the length of time it takes me to finish games and my backlog, I'm not anxious about the future. But I really would not argue with anything you have said on the subject.
    Well, I spent $300 on the PS4 version on Ebay when we thought there would be no PS4. Now people will argue against this, but I believe Nintendo was blocking physical releases for games on other consoles. Depending on the game, think about it, games that either that Nintendo paid for timed exclusivity or just very popular cross platform releases. Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster(before the worldwide release.) Monster Hunter Rise, Octopath Traveler 1, Live A Live, etc are all games that Nintendo specifically paid for timed exclusivity that are now on other consoles. If you look at the worldwide Pixel Remaster release they removed Pixel Remaster from the box itself and are calling it the Final Fantasy 1-6 Anniversary Collection, possibly a wayto get around releasing it on other consoles with a physical release.

    The thing is, the PS4 version was initially announced and was able to be preordered, then Play-Asia stated "they made a mistake" so they cancelled the preorders. I mean Square Enix had physical releases that sold out within two seconds on their own store. This wasn't a mistake, Nintendo scooped up exclusivity for the physical release and then Square Enix and Play-Asia had to back pedal. It's bs that the only way you could get the game on PS4 was to pay ridiculous prices because you didn't think it was going to come out. So not only did Square Enix give PS4 collector's the middle finger, they gave them the ones who paid resellers for an overpriced copy the middle finger when they released it two years later.

    Modern video game collecting has become such bullshit. You have to worry whether your game will be complete on disc, you have to worry about bs like this happening, you have to worry whether the game won't get DLC after the fact even when the game has been out for years like The Messenger, Sea of Stars, and Darkest Dungeon 2. All three of these games waited years for their physical versions to release and then before the physical releases announced that they were going to add large expansion content and release it months later. Well if you know you're already releasing this shit then why then announce and release the physical version if it's only months away? It's just bullshit and every single one of these indie devs do it. Infernax, amazing game, had an expansion that was being worked on and announced directly after the physical version released, Huntdownn released a score attack mode, same game just a score version with quicker kills building a combo meter, Star Renegades had a year of extra content added after release, one expansion adding a bit more content and the best character in the game at level 10(max level.) Dark Paragon which level 10 allows him to use his own skills as well as the regular Paragon skills, regular Paragon is better but when you have two movesets, you now get two movesets and both combined are better, but this will be only accessible at the very end of a run.

    There's all that, the high prices for physical releases that don't get a wide spread release, the high prices in general, and even the fact that you can't even guarantee that we'll see a physical release on a lot of games that we really want. Like where is Salt and Sacrifice? Spelunky 2? It's been years since these have released.

    There's a lot of great Black Friday deals going on right now, I've already spent $400 picking up stuff I've been waiting for but other stuff that I have in multiple watch lists have went out of print without getting to a cost I felt comfortable in paying, so those ones are just gone unless I go on Ebay.
    Everything in the above post is opinion unless stated otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    You guys are such whiners, honestly all things considered I don't mind HD Remasters and ports. There are so many games out there now that I have not played, I didn't buy my switch until the end of 2023, and just got around to playing things like Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario Odyssey effectively 8-10 years after release. If a game is good, it deserves a port and a potential new audience.

    But most of all, what is stopping new games from being developed is that there are old games that are excellent and standing the test of time. Movies and music industry are running into this problem as well. There are so many great old games out there that it has become a competition of a consumer dusting off forgotten classics and competing with, like someone said earlier in this thread, new games that are total trash. Dustborn and Concord cost tens of millions of dollars. Nintendo rerelases Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy and makes hundreds of millions of dollars.

    https://kotaku.com/old-games-2023-pl...aft-1851382474

    Statistics like these are why Nintendo will rerelease even a commercial dud like Xenoblade Chronicles X in the hope that it sells better on Switch than create a new game that is a total question mark. Far less investment for something that 95% of people didn't play the first time around. Its a win win for consumers and businesses in my view.
    Besides the spicy first sentence I'm on board with this take. It's not just that there are so many games that I have not played - there are so many games that I own that I haven't played. My backlog is enormous; I have hundreds of games. Some of those I'm never going to get more than 10-15 minutes of (thank Humble Bundle and the shovelware they sometimes put in for that), but there are many high-quality games that I just haven't gotten to.

    The best games being made today are independent - and I hate to say it, but those are coming out on PC first - probably Steam. Good Old Games (GOG.com) is making sure that the best of yesterday's games remain playable. Some of the complaints here about "games not dropping in price" are console problems that I simply can't relate to in this day and age...because I haven't bought a console since the Wii (which I still have unfinished games for).

    Deep Rock Galactic is probably my favorite game of the last 5 years - I'm surprised by how much time I'm willing to put into it. Baldur's Gate 3 is an incredible RPG. If you go 10, 15 years back there are incredible games from almost every genre available on PC - the Shadowrun RPGs, Mark of the Ninja, Space Food Truck, Subnautica, Card City Nights, Whispers of a Machine, Northgard - the list goes on and on. The ports don't even bother me - maybe a little, if they censor things and then the original is unavailable - but let them do it. It just shows that the major game companies are creatively bankrupt and that provides wide open space for all these other, independent creators to shine.
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    The question in the board / union meeting is....
    Will it be censored ( can you have that in writing )
    ?..... Pencil drop

    Xenogears 1 +2 on ps2 dub was censored.

    Even the Wii u game with outfits was censored.

    As a grown up I am, let story be told Because we kids would have probably be happy all the same as f it was post o on a stick and called it gold.

    That is the first problem.

    FF8 got models that look more like the artwork but are alien in comparison to the original. More importantly the backgrounds are not remade bit blurred originals.

    Grandia - same thing but reversed. Blurred sprites with sharp 3d

    The way I see things with PC first is the same way the crybaby who made "Press Start" said.

    "I did not make this movie to be downloaded but to be purchased "

    With everybody being a disrespectful startup company and old nationalists companies looking to scrape up sales from anywhere......

    Why not ? It is terrible enough when you people upset but those same persons wants to mock there fan/consumer base.

    Yes logically just dlc pc because the last thing in this world anybody wants is another console box o steam account.

    We literally can take any pc from 2016 or even 2009. Sup it up and use external GPU. From there everything else is free.

    Only thing that keeps my monkey hand in the jar is the memory of a SNES or sounds of a ZApper, along with moments that was unique. It is like the smell of toast and eggs along with coffee. Might on t be best meal but you have been tuned to look for it.

    They make new releases or remakes/reboots and I am bound to find censorship

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