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    I've been meaning to ask about this topic for a while. We also know that when programmers have extra space in their roms they sometimes used it to write messages and inside jokes amongst themselves. Sometimes it's just their names, but other times it can be random things. So what is the most interesting thing you have ever found?

    A prototype I just sold (The released version has the same message as well) has the introductory paragraph from the Hunt for Red October:

    IN NOVEMBER OF 1984, SHORTLY BEFORE GORBECHOV CAME TO POWER, A TYPHOON-CLASS SOVIET SUB SURFACED JUST SOUTH OF THE GRAND BANKS. IT THEN SANK INTO DEEP WATER, APPARENTLY SUFFERING A RADIATION PROBLEM. UNCONFIRMED REPORTS INDICATED SOME OF THE CREW WERE RESCUED. BUT ACCORDINDING TO REPEATED STATEMENTS BY BOTH SOVIET AND AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS....NOTHING OF WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE... EVER HAPPENED

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    Um, for some reason this is in the Buying & Selling forum... I'm gonna go ahead and move it since I've got no idea why it's here?

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    I was reading up on the net one day and found a topic about Front Mission 3. So I started reading it and it was talking about hidden messages on the disc and it gave a track number or something like that (I forgot which track) with the message. Well i started listening to it on the net (and this was from the game) about how the person who was talking hates a certain group of people and went on with the hate message. So i thought "Hey, I own Front Mission 3." So i popped it in and went to the track (this was a LONG time ago) and found the one he said and listened to it. Lo and behold it was a true hate message towards people that were not japanese. Sorry it wasn't as descriptive as it should have been but it has been a good while since i have listened to it.
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    Lemmings on the Atari Lynix has a stupidly long and daft message
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    I'm just curious, how do you read these ROMs? I was reading about this is DP7 about how the programmers say random things in it and was curious how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gleavepaul
    Lemmings on the Atari Lynix has a stupidly long and daft message
    Lemmings is stupidly long and daft anyway ;)

    I would check out my CD-i titles but we're looking at a LOT of text. Could be done though.

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    This is the scroll that comes up when you finish the Lemmings game:

    ALL DONE!

    congratulations!!

    you've completed

    l e m m i n g s

    everyone here at dma
    design salutes you as a
    master lemmings player
    not many people will
    complete the mayhem
    levels. you are
    definately one of the
    elite.

    programming
    brian watson (biscuit)

    with

    graphics conversion by
    mike dailly
    gary timmons
    scott johnston

    level editor by
    steve hammond

    (using amos which was
    an atomic-size
    mistake)

    original music by
    tim wright
    and
    brian johnston

    lynx music
    tony williams

    additional graphics
    jamie grant

    levels themselves were
    converted by

    john harris
    and
    john delayney

    psygnosis/atari liason
    greg duddle
    graham stafford
    and
    john skruch

    testing
    mike clarke
    gray mercer
    craig duddle
    faran thomason
    and
    sean patten

    original concept
    by
    dma design

    tea boy
    mike dailly
    scott johnston
    and
    russel kay

    sprite generator
    mark ireland

    Electricty supplied by
    scottish power which
    was originally
    contained in a big
    hydro-electric dam
    which was powered by
    water that got its
    energy from the sun
    and so on and so forth
    right back to the very
    beginnings of the universe

    and now the traditional
    scrolly message things.

    the following items
    were consumed during
    the making of lynx
    lemmings;

    520 cans of coke
    200 bags of crisps
    108 custom built sandwhiches
    300 cups of tea
    64 tracker bars
    1 fruesli bar (blech!)

    and a lot irreplacable
    fossil fuels

    and the following equipment
    used in the course of the project;

    900 gallons rocket fuel
    1 teleporter
    4 hard disks
    set of spanners
    nicam tv set
    15 amigas
    22 pcs
    desk lamp
    paintball guns
    farside calendar
    amos compiler
    blank disks
    too much paper
    cranky old amstad printer
    satellite system
    screen blanker
    star trek video
    tayside buses
    cfcs
    welding kit
    soldering iron
    hammer
    nails
    circular saw
    30 rolls wallpaper
    bucket and spade
    power sander
    hover mower
    paint strpper
    particle gun
    cold fusion reactor
    comic rays
    fan
    telescope
    digital thermometer
    lemon curd sandwhich
    fridge
    microwave oven
    jar of loose change
    gobstopper
    business card
    vacuum cleaner
    stickey backed plastic


    with invented assistance
    from the following people
    and places.

    nasa
    cern synchrotron
    hubble space telescope
    jodrell bank
    corner shop
    cray research
    edinburgh zoo
    starbase 47

    not forgetting the
    hinderances from these;

    road works
    headphones
    network crashes
    solor storms
    ozon depletion
    chocolate cake
    pcs
    snowstorms
    tidal wave
    earthquake
    disk errors
    volcanoes
    blocked drains
    hangovers
    yogurt
    coffee perculator

    are we clear yet?

    anybody listening?

    no?

    good.

    important message
    ----------------

    5

    4

    3

    2

    1

    we're going for the
    record now.. What's the
    largest scrolly mesage
    ever seen on a game cartridge?
    no idea? miniscule, thats what.

    we at dma design in our shiny green office
    building are attempting 40k worth of message.
    pointless, futile, mesage. thats 40960 characters.
    we even employ someone purely to write these scrolly
    mesages. we have more text.

    loads!

    loads!!

    loads!!!

    and then some!!!!!!

    speaking of characters,
    there were some very
    strange ones involved
    in creating the game. I
    myself am a member of the
    the guild of scrolly
    message writers, not
    the everyday messages
    that get flung around
    on demos but a bona
    fide scrolly embedded on
    a rom cartridge. few are
    qualified to reach this
    level of expertise. if you
    wish to do this youself
    there are special night
    classes you can attend. you
    just have to know where to
    find them.

    thanks go especially to the
    sandwich ladies and the
    chocolate cake that caused me
    so much trauma trying to
    slim down..


    so anyway, in several
    thousand years time
    some archeologist is
    going to dig up this
    cartridge. i may as
    well explain a few things
    about 1993

    first of all the
    location of atlantis.
    it is in fact in the
    tay estuary just next
    to dundee, sctoland

    that fact alone explains
    why atlantis has remained
    so quiet over the years.
    who could take them seriously
    nowdays with the think highland
    accent and a claymore

    come to think of it, wielding a claymore in
    front of people does tend to make them take you
    seriously. so why did atlatis sink?
    it was the constant rainfall that did it.

    I may as well tell you
    that the scrolly
    message classes are
    held at the following
    address.

    the university
    1 south underwater st
    west 15
    atlantis

    enclose around 20 quids
    worth of stamps for all
    correspondance

    and now vampires.

    are you one of the
    legions of the undead?
    does the sun make you
    peel until there is
    nothing left? do
    hordes of irate locals
    armed with sunbeds try
    to ruin your night?

    if the answer to any of
    the above questions is
    a resounding yes then
    you really have got problems
    I suppose in
    that case you'll have
    been playing lemmings
    in the middle of a
    transylvanian castle
    in the basement.
    in that case, make sure
    you've got plenty of
    batteries.

    can't leave out aliens:
    why would anyone wish to
    leave aliens out of a scolly
    message (a note for the
    pedantic: under no cimcumstances
    is a message text called a scolling
    message, it is always a called a scolly )

    so anyway: aliens. we
    are of course talking
    about the suckers that
    come from space and not
    the ones that try sneak
    in you're country when
    you're not looking.

    I am confident that no-one
    at dma design has in fact
    been abducted by aliens
    although several of them may
    actually be aliens themselves.
    have you ever seen whitley
    strieber's communion?
    if so then i can give
    the true explanation.
    the alien is large, white, bald and has enormous
    eyes. now consider what michael
    jackson is doing to himself, and
    it will instantly become clear that this is what
    michael will look like in several hundred years.
    considering his reputation for eccentricity and
    his vast wealth i have no doubt that
    he will fund a time machine and go back to the
    eighties and pretend to be from outer space. or not.

    a word about piracy.
    yes, even cartidges
    can be copied. it's
    not very nice is it?
    if you do try it then the
    jokes on you. inserted
    into this text is a
    powerful magical spell
    to shred the very soul
    of evil nasty people who
    would take away our livelihood.


    nasty pirate
    go way.
    you'll never live,
    to see the day,
    when evil triumphs
    over light,
    'cos we all think
    you're full of

    * zzzt * software
    failure there* mmm,
    never mind. on with
    the next topic. the
    pentagram graphics
    should take care of
    it anyway.

    7k of message!

    ah we never quite
    got to 40K but I think
    it is still enough
    to count.

    i think it's a...
    world record
    for a console cartridge.

    you!

    until next time

    a little message from
    the programmer.

    enjoy your lynx. it is
    the best of all of the
    hand held portable machines.
    only with your support can
    we produce software for this
    lovely little piece of
    hardware with a goal
    keeping the machine alive and kicking

    well i may not have plans
    to do anything in the immediate
    future on the lynx, but if it is still around in a few
    years maybe I'll do lemmings ii on it.

    then again maybe not
    i suppose i would have to
    be mad to attempt it but then
    again anyone who attempts a major
    programming feat using a 6502 must be mad
    but don't forget the lovely hardware
    this little machine can do more to the
    display than an amiga
    can thanks to rj mical and his team
    for being insane enough to design such
    a nice piece of hardware and having the foresight
    to produce their development software on the amiga
    maybe it's because they
    had something to do with that as well?

    bye...

    | Ken Sumrall
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    On the American version of Captain Tsubasa for Nes(Tecmo Cup Football Game) , I found that at the ending the main character says he wants to be an astronaut or a F-1 driver, but in the game he says nothing about that!
    Step Back! This is my blast shot!

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    Bloody hell, that Lemmings ending is awesome.

    My favorite find is from Adventures in the Magic Kingdom on the NES:

    "SATURDAY MORNING IS MORNING SALAD"

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    Speaking of hidden messages, if you haven't checked out the Silicon Zoo, you should check it out. It's a collection of miniature secret pictures that people have hidden on microchips and circuits. There are literally hundreds of them, with everything from little Snoopies and Killroys to other hidden cartoon characters and the like. What's even more incredible is some of these are so small you would never make them out with the naked eye. Pretty cool!

    http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/index.html

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    sweet, thanx for the link

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    Here's one from Krusty's Funhouse on the SMS:

    Wow! your clever fax 44 21 523 3942

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    The first thing that comes to mind is the message hidden within The New Tetris on N64.

    http://www.bretz.ca/dave/tetrisrant.htm

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    Holy SHit! That lemmings one is great, but that Tetris Rant is insane!!

    Jeez, I forget what game it is, Burai FIghter, I think.....if you beat it on the "impossible" setting, it almost seems to infer thatyou cheated. Well, if slomo on my NES Adevantage stick is cheating, then yeah, but other that that, I kicked the crap out of that game.

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    I'll have to dig out the ending to Rodland on the C64. The programmer Steve Snake told me he was utterly mentally exhausted after pulling several months work straight to get it done, and was literally tripping his brain off when he came to coding the end sequence. It reads very much like a Monty Python episode in some ways

    Aside from that, there's the great hidden message in Amazing Maze for the Vic20: "The next sound that you hear will be that of your logic board melting down. This is the price one pays for screwing with the master."

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    Oh man... That is one heck of a message. At first I thought it was just going to be like the end of Lemmings 2 (PC), but it just kept on going...

    I wonder if the original author is still working at Rockstar?

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    Wasn't there some hidden message in Streets of Rage or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadKing
    The first thing that comes to mind is the message hidden within The New Tetris on N64.

    http://www.bretz.ca/dave/tetrisrant.htm

    OMG that guy's dead! I clicked the back button at the bottom of the page and was like no way... too sad.
    Curiosity killed the cat.... Satisfaction brought him back.

    My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
    My shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
    Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
    'Til then I walk alone...

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