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    Quote Originally Posted by Keir to the nth power
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    You're reading it right. The cart is ever-so-slightly more common than the controller.
    Was the cart sold at some point without the controller? Or have some of the controllers gone wayward over time compared to the carts? Peaked my curiousity here
    How about we save ourselves the trouble of finding out and just call them both R1/$1? Even if the controller is slightly rarer than the cart, it's still common as dirt.
    Yeah this is about the least interesting conversation we've ever had in this forum

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    Mayhem,

    Concerning the original DB:GT (PSX), we now know there were almost 20,000 copies sold. The rarest PSX US releases (aside from stuff like 2Ball - we should do a roll call on who has this demo, btw - and some of the Lightspan games) had 3-4000 copies sold. I think DB and Papastu are on the money when they list only 3 non-Lightspan games as R8. R7 is what I would consider similar to ER on my own list, and my guide is that if I can confirm 12000+ sold or see them with any frequency on ebay and in private sales, they're not ER.

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    Thought I might contribute a few points. I collected all 248 US Dreamcast games once… and then sold the collection. I started recollecting them again and am about 24 games short of having the complete collection. I’ve done this mostly through eBay, so I’d thought I’d take a look through the list and see if anything jumped out at me as being off on rarity. Feel free to absorb/discard recommendations.

    102 Dalmations, currently R2 – I say R1 = you can get this anytime, anywhere
    Caesar’s Palace 2000, currently R3 – I say R4 = one of the first titles on my search list, one of the last titles that I obtained (still don’t have it the second time around) – shows up a handful of times on eBay in a month
    Dead or Alive 2, currently R3 – I say R2 = easily obtainable, I’ve sold dozens
    Deep Fighter, currently R3 – I say R4, maybe R5 = ditto Palace 2000 comment
    Disney’s Dinosaur, currently R3 – definitely R4
    Dragon Riders – currently R2 – should be R4, it’s pretty hard to come by
    ESPN – both titles can be bumped up a notch – they’re not easy to get (I’m still looking for Track and Field)
    F1 – up to R3
    Grinch – same as F1
    Gundam – bring down to R3 – it’s not easy to come by, but it’s readily available
    Heavy Metal – R2
    Hoyle – up to R4
    Illbleed – should be R2, if not R3
    Kao – should be R4, possibly R5
    Max Steel - should be R2, if not R3
    Mr. Driller – should be R4
    Namco Museum – possibly bring it down to R3
    NBA Hoopz – R3
    Next Tetris – R3
    Roadsters – R3, probably R4
    Seventh Cross – R3
    Soul Calibur – it’s not rare, R1 – these things are everywhere
    Spider-Man – bring it down to R3, maybe R2
    Spirit of Speed 1937 – R4 – one of the harder titles to grab
    Tee Off – the R5 is way off – it’s R3
    Tokyo Racers – no rarity change, but neither is spelled “Extreme” – they are both “Xtreme” – that’s direct from the case
    Toy Story 2 – bring it up to R3, maybe R4
    Urban Chaos – ditto
    Wetrix – R3
    Who Wants to Beat – R3
    Worms World – might bring down to R4

    Anyway, feel free to use these. Also, if an editor/admin want to contact me, just PM and I’ll respond. I’d like to help/contribute and I have a decent knowledge of the Dreamcast stuff.
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    I have some suggestions about a few random rare Japanese titles. I've been living in Japan for about 9 months now (and I spent a year in Osaka prior to moving to Japan this time), and I've been frequenting plenty of used game stores, including the shops in Akihabara.

    Blast Wind, Saturn JP - A much rarer game than Radiant Silvergun actually. It never goes for all that much money but is extremely hard to find. I sold my original copy many years ago and spent nearly two years trying to find it again before stumbling upon it at a used Japanese game store in Hong Kong. I'd rate BW a solid 6, and I wouldn't be surprised if it moved up to 7 in a few years. Price of $50 to $60.

    Hyper Duel, Saturn JP - More valuable than Blast Wind but easier to find. I think there might be fewer copies available but it's more well known and more people are looking to buy it. R6, $90 to $100.

    Popful Mail, TurboGrafix 16 JP - Currently listed as an R8, this game is far more common than that. It's a late, late title for the system and still a little pricey but I have seen tons of copies of it here. I'd bump it down to an R7 for sure. Maybe even an R6... Price of $50 to $60, not $120. I hate to ask for a downgrade to a game I own, but the entry here is a little... "inflated."

    Remy Blaster, TurboGrafix 16 JP - I've seen this game in the collectors cases at used stores in Akiba and Osaka a few times, but I've never played or bought it. There's no entry at all for the game currently. It's probably an R7 or R8 just based on how hard it is to find for sale. Seems to go for $150 or so. I don't know who made it, supposedly it's a beat-em-up.

    Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru, Saturn JP - This is probably the rarest and most valuable "standard" run Japanese Saturn game. R8 for sure. I finally broke down and bought it a few days ago after finally finding a complete copy (many are missing the spine card, and most are missing a sticker that came with the game.) Goes for $240-$250 in Japan, even more overseas. The only Saturn games that go for more than this are promotional items, unreleased games, and other such oddities.

    Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire, TurboGrafix 16 JP - The price on this already horribly expensive game has gone up - incomplete (no spine card) copies are going for about $330, and complete copies are inching towards the $400 mark. A few years ago in Osaka I saw this game for sale in collectors stores pretty consistently, but it's been getting rarer and rarer. I went looking for it the last few times I've been in Akihabara and only one or two stores has been able to get it in stock. Still an R8 though.

    Dead of the Brain 1&2, TurboGrafix 16 JP - The price on this game has jumped up and it's gotten way harder to find. I'd still leave the rarity at 7, but the price is up closer to $140, at many places, $160.

    Langrisser IV & V Final Edition, Playstation JP - Currently not listed in the database. A slightly revamped port of Langrisser IV and V for the Saturn. Definitely in the "upper tiers" of PSX games, this game always goes to the collectors sections here. I'd rate it as R5, probably an R6 overseas. The prices on it vary wildly - I've seen it go for as little as $50, and as much as $90. Average seems to be around $60, $65.

    All these prices are conversions of the yen prices I see here than I did at random. No exchange rate calculations or anything. Hope this information is useful!


    EDIT: I noticed that I listed Hyper Duel as an R5... I meant to say R6. More common than Blast Wind but not R5 common by any means.

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    Just a minor one here: looks like there's been a warehouse find or something for Ghen War (PAL Saturn), judging by the plethora of unsold sealed copies on eBay anyway.
    Should probably be knocked down a touch from it's current rating of R5.

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    Some other comment from this bastard.

    I think the European Sega rating are sometimes to much UK-focused. The Classic Collection with Gunstar Heroes , Flicky and 2 I forgot is in my opinion much rarer then Sega Sports one, as the UK are much smaller then the UK mainland. And there are more games I have this feeling with, but if wanted I can post a list.

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    The problem with regional variations like you mention is that there isn't an even spread games across Europe - while being much smaller in size, the UK accounts for well over half of all PAL MD games on eBay at any one time and given that, it's only right for things to be slightly weighted in that direction.

    The Classic Collection is pretty common over here - I know I could walk into town this afternoon and buy 2 different copies if I wanted, for example. Having said that, an R4 rating might be fairer overall - I'll make a note to have a better look at it when I have a chance.
    Also, Flicky is already rated higher (R5) than the Sega Sports comp (R4).

    Feel free to PM me if you've got any thoughts on any other ratings - I'm not trying to just shrug off your comments, and would be happy to discuss any others.

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    Casino poker (Channel F) has only turned up three times in three years and only on Ebay, Alien invasion has turned up almost then times, CP needs to be a R9/$50 as it only shows up on Ebay.

    The RCA Studio II section needs to be ravamped,

    Bingo, like Conversational French, may never show up again and should finally be a R10, there is only 2 or 3 copies known to exist and should be noted in the description so we don't deceive anyone hunting for it.

    Gunfighter/MB I have only seen one copy change hands since 2002 and I lost out on it, that game should be a R8 or 9, and worth at least $25, that game is deceptively hard to find.

    Speedway/Tag probably the same as GF/MB, but only worth like $10, another elusive game to locate.

    TV Schoolhouse II should be a R7 or R8, I have only seen 3 or 4 copies since 2002 and is worth at least $25, this game is much rarer than TV Schoolhouse I. If Al Backiel still maintains this section then this should be forwarded to him.

    The Sega Genesis whack a critter controller needs to be added to the database, it should be at least a R9 as I have seen only one person who has one in 4 years of searching for one of these things, I have no idea on value though.
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    All comments to date have been noted. Look for some changes in the next online update scheduled Friday night.

    Thanks as always for your diligence, folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    Just a minor one here: looks like there's been a warehouse find or something for Ghen War (PAL Saturn), judging by the plethora of unsold sealed copies on eBay anyway.
    Should probably be knocked down a touch from it's current rating of R5.
    I agree with that too, at the time I worked out the ratings I hadn't seen a copy up for months hence the R5 yet recently there's been a flood of them so yeah I think it needs to be changed down to a R4 or possibally even R3.

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    Just two rarities that seem a bit off:

    Moon Ranger for NES: currently R3; I think this should be raised to at least an R5; based on personal experience.

    Krazy Kreatures for NES: currently R5; should be lowered to R4, maybe even lower. Tends to be more common than other R5s.

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    i think Civilzation (SNES) is price wrong

    it says 12 for a loose copy

    see these auctions

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8198924830

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8198298719

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8198073968

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8196093835

    while the last one fits the price, the others clearly don't, and we want to be on the low side, so it should be lowered to like 8
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    The only rarity discrepancy I've noticed would be Koudelka for Ps1. It's currently rated as an R2, which is, IMO, far too low. I've NEVER seen a copy of it in the wild, and I was actively searching for it for at least a year or so before I broke down and bought it on ebay. I think it should be raised to at least an R5, if not an R6, but that's up to the PS1 guys. Thanks for listening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crush Crawfish
    The only rarity discrepancy I've noticed would be Koudelka for Ps1. It's currently rated as an R2, which is, IMO, far too low. I've NEVER seen a copy of it in the wild, and I was actively searching for it for at least a year or so before I broke down and bought it on ebay. I think it should be raised to at least an R5, if not an R6, but that's up to the PS1 guys. Thanks for listening!
    Its not a 5 or 6. You've got to realise that most RPG's just have a higher demand for them, especially the PS ones. I've seen numerous copies in the wild over the years. I'll push it up from a 2. But its not a 5 or 6. It should show an update the next time I send in the list to Joe.
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    Captain Commando (R3) and Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition (R2) for the Super Nintendo are both very hard to come by and should be rated at the very least R5 and possibly R6. Captain Commando rarely ever comes up on ebay; I've seen only 4 or 5 copies all year and I've been tracking it on a weekly basis for the last 8 months. TSB II also saw a very limited production run and is also very hard to find. I had read somewhere that only 10,000 units of the game were produced. It's also a game that is scarce on ebay.
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    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=35928

    The Game Gear carrying case. Maybe there was a typo or something, is it really an R10? I highly doubt it. >_>
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    I've been looking for a U/C NTSC Saturn Powerslave (listed Guide Rarity 3, value $8) for the last couple of weeks, but I'm not finding it. Not at local stores (but then, I haven't seen a Saturn game in the wild in Cleveland in a couple years). Not for less than $20 online (and that being the only listing I saw), and not on ebay at all.

    Am I crap at online searching? Did I just start looking for it during a dry spell? Or should U/C NTSC Saturn Powerslave get a rarity bump to 4?
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    Wizard of Id Wiz Math (ColecoVision):

    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=9309

    The online guide lists this as an R5/$15 ... that seems hopelessly out of touch with reality. It shows up as a loose cartridge perhaps four or so times a year on eBay, and for as long as I can remember has always fetched at least two to three times the listed $ value at auction.

    Does someone have an ungodly stock of these, because I've just never seen it in the quantities one would expect of an R5 -- not to mention that for the last couple years I've had far more requests for it in trade than I've ever been able to find myself.

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    NES experts please chime in here, but I have been trying to find a copy of Galaxie 5000 for a long time now, I haven't seen one in forever, I think it is a lot rarer than a R6 I find all the Pac-Mans and Qix a lot more often than this and I don't see it on Ebay much either, does anyone else agree or is it just me?
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    R6 seems about right to me. i've found three of them so far and about the same number of qix and pac-man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumbai
    Wizard of Id Wiz Math (ColecoVision):

    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=9309

    The online guide lists this as an R5/$15 ... that seems hopelessly out of touch with reality. It shows up as a loose cartridge perhaps four or so times a year on eBay, and for as long as I can remember has always fetched at least two to three times the listed $ value at auction.

    Does someone have an ungodly stock of these, because I've just never seen it in the quantities one would expect of an R5 -- not to mention that for the last couple years I've had far more requests for it in trade than I've ever been able to find myself.
    Yeah, that game definitely needs a bump up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed
    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=35928

    The Game Gear carrying case. Maybe there was a typo or something, is it really an R10? I highly doubt it. >_>
    Looks like the rarity and dollar values are reversed. I'll fix that, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargora
    I've been looking for a U/C NTSC Saturn Powerslave (listed Guide Rarity 3, value $8) for the last couple of weeks, but I'm not finding it. Not at local stores (but then, I haven't seen a Saturn game in the wild in Cleveland in a couple years). Not for less than $20 online (and that being the only listing I saw), and not on ebay at all.

    Am I crap at online searching? Did I just start looking for it during a dry spell? Or should U/C NTSC Saturn Powerslave get a rarity bump to 4?
    A 4 seems fair, and a slight uppage in price as well, though I do see Powerslave in trade boxes occasionally.

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    Maybe a new rumormill entry for Zombie Revenge for Playstation 2 can be added. A conversion of this Dreamcast-game was mentioned in the Acclaim Playstation 2 Un Nouveau Monde Catalog, which I got with my Virtua Cop: Elite Edition. I don't know if it was mentioned in UK versions of Acclaim-catalogs, but is at least in the version for France and the Benelux.

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    http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=25683

    Is this entry only for the very first console revision? Otherwise it should be R1 :)
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