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    Quote Originally Posted by ckendal
    In case anyone wants to get a laugh out of his myspace.com page. Here you go.

    NiNtEnDoNuT1983

    I guess he was trying to con us all so he could 'smoke!'
    Good god.

    That page makes me want to punch a baby.

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    Hmph.

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    So he made a mistake and posted in his own thread so it look "shady". I don't think he was trying to rip anyone off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tynstar
    So he made a mistake and posted in his own thread so it look "shady". I don't think he was trying to rip anyone off.
    I don't think he was trying to rip anyone off either...

    He, however, violated the trust and respect of everyone that deals here on a weekly basis.

    He states that he is an "honest" guy when trading and selling (and i don't doubt that), but he isn't an honest guy when it comes to being upfront about what he is selling. That is why I will not deal with him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpman Jr.
    I don't particularilly beleive that he was actually trying to scam anybody. I sort of agree with what he said about people ripping on his threads for selling his stuff, especially after the U-Force thing.
    In any event, one thing good that came out of this is that my biggest competition for buying NES stuff is now off of the boards :P.
    IMO,

    I also dont believe he was trying to scam people. The fact that he asked for the thread to be closed and probably didnt take people's offers on these games is proof.

    Do we have anybody here who actually made an offer and got an answer back form him?

    I also agree that people on forums tend to rip on threads and act like jerks to certain members for the stupidest of reasons.

    I do give Berzerker "props" for his P.I. skills , but I dont think NintendoNut was out to scam anyone... Just looking for prices. He shouldn't have resorted to this method to get a price check though :/ And just so he knows, I am sure there are plenty of guys here at DP or www.rfgeneration.com that would gladly have given him the information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by A Boy
    Quote Originally Posted by ckendal
    In case anyone wants to get a laugh out of his myspace.com page. Here you go.

    NiNtEnDoNuT1983

    I guess he was trying to con us all so he could 'smoke!'
    Good god.

    That page makes me want to punch a baby.

    -A Boy
    Amen. At least it provides a bit of explanation re: his completely unintelligible thought processes. Frat boys...

    I have to believe, like others here, that he wasn't intentionally trying to scam somebody but yeah... you can't go doing that shite. I caught the thread before Berserker jumped in and it just plain seemed off somehow, so good sleuthing there.

    Just nice to know somebody's watching out for the common man around here. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpman Jr.
    I don't particularilly beleive that he was actually trying to scam anybody. I sort of agree with what he said about people ripping on his threads for selling his stuff, especially after the U-Force thing.
    Same here...I think it's kinda lame that people would rip on a guy for wanting to sell some of his stuff. If anything, I'd welcome it - if it can be moved to a good/better home, then I'm all for it. I also don't think that Nintendonut truly meant to rip anyone off. HOWEVER, I'm glad that there isn't tolerance here for the way that he went about it. Being shady is one thing, but being downright deceitful is another. Props to Berserker and the rest of the mods for their hard work on this. It's clearly in their best interests to make DP a more positive and safe place for gaming discussion and trading, and this is a prime example of that interest and hard work paying off.

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    All I have to add on the matter is that I never parsed his name right (as "Nintendo Nut"); it always looked like "Ninten Donut" to me. I don't think you can buy those at a Dunkin's.

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    I appreciate everything that's been done by DP members and staff in terms of uncovering this situation.

    I'm not entirely sure if this was intended to be a scam, but it was intolerable, wrong, and just plain icky

    Good luck to Nintendonut or whatever you username is, I hope you find your path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
    All I have to add on the matter is that I never parsed his name right (as "Nintendo Nut"); it always looked like "Ninten Donut" to me.
    Heh, ditto Seemed like a goon from day one to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
    All I have to add on the matter is that I never parsed his name right (as "Nintendo Nut"); it always looked like "Ninten Donut" to me.
    Heh, ditto Seemed like a goon from day one to me...
    I always thought it was ninten donut too, I thought it was pretty funny (I thought it was intentional)

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    Thank you, Berserker for helping to protect the integrity of the DP community. Wonderful digital sleuthing, sir.

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    Thanks for all the replies. Having read through all of them, I notice the tide sort of shifts near the end as to suggest "he wasn't really going to sell, he probably wasn't really trying to scam anyone etc..".

    Well, let it be known that, and anyone who read the thread prior to my posting could vouch for this, that until I posted in his thread stating I knew EXACTLY who he was, the intent present behind the wording and presentation in his thread was none other than to collect money. Hell, look at his last post prior to me saying something:

    Quote Originally Posted by me_good39
    had lots of offers......

    $300 gets it

    more items added!!!!

    Such as:
    Cheetahmen II
    Bubble Bobble II
    Dragon warrior 1-4
    Megaman 1-6
    Contra Force CIB
    Caltron 6 in 1
    and many more
    This seems to indicate a progression of sorts, to me anyway.

    -Offer up a rare game under an assumed name to see if anyone will put up any serious offers without the need for feedback or references.

    -The bait is taken. Serious offers are made. Well, might as well offer up more rare games in the hopes of achieving a similar effect.

    It stopped there because I said something, but let's assume for a moment that it was allowed to continue. I think the progression probably would've went along something like this...

    -More serious offers are made. People just can't seem to pass up on a rare oppurtunity to snag some rare games, despite what misgivings they might have. What now...

    -Oh shit, I just realized that the picture URL on my photobucket has my real name in it! Nobody seemed to notice yet though, but I better edit it out real quick.(note: he did this very thing after I posted, but neglected to do it in the quoted version he made of it.)

    -Someone just deposited the first payment into my paypal account in agreement with my "pay first" stipulation. It's really working... wait, just got another one. So at this point, now having all of this money, I could ship these games to the person assuming I still have them, and I could even get some nice positive feedback for this totally fabricated username I could care less about... or, I could keep the money, keep the games, ship nothing, and get some really negative feedback for this totally fabricated username I could care less about, and continue on with business as usual at DP.

    -Hmmm... what to do.

    He used a falsified username. He didn't create an "Interest Check" thread, or a "How much are these games worth lately" thread. He created a FOR SALE thread for one rare game, and after he saw that he could get some serious offers for it, he added more rare games along with a "pay first" stipulation. If he ever asked for how much it was worth in the thread previously, it'd been long since edited out by the time I arrived on the scene, and replaced with the resounding sentiment: "MAKE AN OFFER."

    Only, he only made use of his main account to drum up false interest in the thread, not to vouch for credibility of this person to help sell the games. Otherwise, his main account might have some things to answer for should this guy blow town with everyone's money. Think about it. Even if he was looking to genuinely sell these games via a falsified user account, if he was genuinely planning on selling these games, such a recommendation could only help his situation.

    Nintendonut was certainly not the brightest attempted scammer ever to walk the earth, but EVERY bit of evidence I came across, along with EVERY word of his posts that I read told me that he had but one goal in mind, ultimately -- Offer the bait, take the money, ship nothing, and never touch that account again. If his intentions were anything but that, then he sure did a hell of a job fooling me, because I suspect I'd be hard-pressed to even come across a more concrete case than that twice.

    So if you're asking me if I have to choose between either banning someone in regards to which all evidence points to that they plan on taking peoples' money without delivering anything in return and then blowing town under that name, or waiting for this person to see their scams to fruition, and simply mopping up afterwards and offering condolences and sympathy to the unfortunate folks who got suckered by this person, guess which option I'm going with.

    This isn't Minority Report; we're not swooping in from the rafters to punish people for crimes they haven't even thought of committing yet. This is direct action against attempted scammers. This is us seeing their hand in the "cookie jar", using fast-talk and gesturing to illustrate to our members all the great things that will happen 'if...' with one hand, and using the other hand to pick through their wallets for cash and credit cards unawares. This is us catching them red-handed, and booting their ass out of our establishment. Thanks again for all the comments.

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    Fair enough.

    Ultimately, he perpetuated a falsehood in the course of a business transaction, and, that, should never be allowed to take place.
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    I dont think that Ninten-donut (as I thought it was) was trying to scam everybody, but I do believe the right actions were taken.

    Good work Berserker, cheers.

    And Best of luck Nintendonut, I sincerely hope things work out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacmanhat
    Same here...I think it's kinda lame that people would rip on a guy for wanting to sell some of his stuff.
    these are not normal people

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    Re-reading the dialogue in the original thread leaves me to believe that there was a scam intended. Especially the playing it ignorant part on value at the beginning, coupled with the it's not fun anymore statement.

    A lawyer in a court of law probably wouldn't have to try to hard to get a lesser sentence, (like pulling a gun and not shooting) ,but a sensible judge would slam him for as much as he could under the law with intent, regardless of argument.

    I stress my gratitude again, thanks Berserker

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    I believe he was trying to scam people.

    Ive been scammed before and it sucks. People like that dont deserve any good wishes or compassion

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    After reading Berserker's latest post, there isn't a doubt in my mind that he was trying to scam people, and thus, the actions taken are 100% justified to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorch56
    There's been an awful lot of people with one or two post coming in. and posting B&S stuff the day they join.. lately. I'm not saying they aren't legit.. but I've actually been surprised how many old-timers around here still answer threads of newbs with NO seniority and NO post count.. when the newb posts selling something highly sought after. I won't.. anymore.
    That because sometimes you roll the bones and luck out - getting an excellent deal because everyone else was afraid to take the risk with a new user for big money.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Shawn
    That was real good work. It's just sad that it makes new people (like myself) look like we can't be trusted, as video games are the reason I joined anyway.
    You have to understand that to a lot of people NiNtEnDoNuT1983 was a respectable collector up until this little stunt. Post count has nothing to do with the criteria under which someone may try to pull a scam. 3 posts or 3000, someone could always go AWOL and try to pull a fast one and split - in this case he was trying to do so and still remain an "upstanding" member of DP.

    As for the whole feeling he may of had of "it's a disgrace to realize you can't afford the hobby" stuff, just look at Off Topic sometime, we all have lives (somewhat). If hard times come down, if you need the money, if you just want to get out of something - be upfront about it. There are many high level collectors on these forums that have sold mass amounts, or all, of their collections in Buying and Selling. They're still here, and they're still highly respected. However flat out lying and playing the shell game with your identity is crap from any angle.

    I want to commend Berserker for catching this and taking care of it so quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r
    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
    All I have to add on the matter is that I never parsed his name right (as "Nintendo Nut"); it always looked like "Ninten Donut" to me.
    Heh, ditto Seemed like a goon from day one to me...
    I always thought it was ninten donut too, I thought it was pretty funny (I thought it was intentional)
    At least we know where the carrot goes now! HAW

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid
    You have to understand that to a lot of people NiNtEnDoNuT1983 was a respectable collector up until this little stunt. Post count has nothing to do with the criteria under which someone may try to pull a scam. 3 posts or 3000, someone could always go AWOL and try to pull a fast one and split - in this case he was trying to do so and still remain an "upstanding" member of DP.


    As somebody who's often had problems B&Sing, yeah, just being wordy doesn't mean you're going to guarantee a smooth deal. The feedback forum is a great idea, but really, there's no way to predict if a scam artist will strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r
    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
    All I have to add on the matter is that I never parsed his name right (as "Nintendo Nut"); it always looked like "Ninten Donut" to me.
    Heh, ditto Seemed like a goon from day one to me...
    I always thought it was ninten donut too, I thought it was pretty funny (I thought it was intentional)
    Yep everytime I saw it, well I always thought of donuts.

    He also has one of the most craptastic blogs ever. There are alot of people on myspace who suck ass.

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    I would never ever buy anything from someone with a user name with every other letter capitalized anyhow. Or with a "leet" speak name. It reeks of doing business with a 13 year old. Good work none-the-less.
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    [09:28] Sensei Fu: What makes you think people are going to be willing to buy from a "noob"?
    [09:28] NintendoNut: lol they have b4 and so have i


    .. these two lines.. speak volumes..

    "buying from a noob?".. so have I.. actually.. but never again.

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