I find it funny that some of you are bitching about the ZOMG 250 dollar price tag. Its cheaper then the 360 its WAY cheaper then the PS3, but oh noes it has a pack in game that pushes the price up. I guess if you don't want the pack in game, wait because I'm sure the price will drop or they won't include a game at some point in time.

Including a game seems to make sence to selling to the masses though. Just about everytime I go to a store and a older parent/grandparent buys a system they ask if it includes a game in the box and then procede to complain that there isnt a game included.

As for the release date, I actually think its a good idea. Think about it, parent wants to buy kid new game system for x-mas. PS3 will most likely not be avalible that weekend, but HEY there is the new nintendo here and its cheaper, I'll get that.

Just my two cents.