(PCB PICS) NES proto, or bootleg, or what? (Karate Champ)

[Bassgrabber]

THE NEW PICS (PCB) ARE AT THE END....


A young man I know from another site mentioned an "odd" Karate Champ NES cart he obtained at a yard sale. This is what he told me via email:

-Panel where pins are on is colored brown, not white, and pins go all the way across instead of stopping in the middle.
-Flat head screws are used to hold cart together instead of the normal bolts
-On the top panel of NES cart theres normally a little "bump thing" on the left and right, this one is just flat on both sides


I asked about differences during play and he said:

Heres a small one -Level 2 of the game (according to various screenshots) has an orange ground, on my copy its white/yellow.

He also mentioned that the pins are different from other games he has.

Here are some links to pics of the cart:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...r/NESfront.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u.../NESFRONT1.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...r/NESBACK2.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...backbetter.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...NESCARTtop.jpg

THANKS in advance for any insight you can provide to my young collector friend and I!

[Capybara554321]

Looks like a normal one to me. Some games have those tabs and some dont.

[CartCollector]

This is what's called a "5-screw" variant. These are the original style that Nintendo used up until about 1987. The other type they used is called a "3-screw" variant, which have the "bump things" and use security screws. These carts have "Rev. A" on the bottom-right corner on the back label. Note that the pins in the middle of a NES cartridge go straight to the expansion port on the bottom. Since the expansion port was never used, Nintendo removed them on their later cartridges to save money.

[CastNoShadow]

Looks like a normal cart, but you will need to open the cart up to determine if there is anything different about it.

[Graham Mitchell]

The pins "stopping in the middle" on the NES carts only started in about '89 or '90. (Tetris was the first one I saw), so I don't think there's anything abnormal about that cart.

[Bassgrabber]

well... my young friend read the posts and opened the cart. Here are the pics he sent, if "you" wouldn't mind taking a look:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u.../NESinner4.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u.../NESinner1.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u.../NESinner5.jpg

Thanks!

[van_halen]

It's a normal retail cart.

[Graham Mitchell]

Yup. Nothing special about it. Sorry!

[Bassgrabber]

Well, at least he knows it's a variant, which is also nice to have!

THANKS MUCH for all your help and input!

[theshizzle3000]

Hey Bassgrabber I have a NES list that includes the 5-screw variants. Just PM me if you would like it. I got it off of DP a while ago. I am sure you can find it if you search the threads.

[adaml]

The bull wouldn't happen to be in that proto, would it

[bootgod]

You do actually have a rather rare cart there. In fact I just emailed like 30 ebay resellers a couple days ago, many of which had many copies of the game. And only 2 had this one and so now I finally have one on the way. What you have there is "Revision 0", which must have some bugs or something, because the vast majority are revision A.

I've been running a redumping project for the NES, that is one of the last few revision 0's that hasn't been dumped. I have a site setup http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/

that covers everything that has been done so far.

[TheRedEye]

I've been running a redumping project for the NES, that is one of the last few revision 0's that hasn't been dumped. I have a site setup http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/

You say you're missing Stadium Events...I personally dumped an NTSC version with CopyNES maybe 2-3 years ago, I guarantee it's clean.

[bootgod]

Yeah I don't doubt that one is good, in fact I was planning on sticking it in there if I can get a PCB shot of it. The only stuff that is in the DB at this point is stuff that has been processed with the software I wrote for it.

[TheRedEye]

That's cool, I just wanted to make sure you weren't losing sleep over whether or not the ROM dump itself was clean!

[Nesboy43]

Thanks Bassgrabber, I am the owner of this game, I just started my account so I got BG to post the pics, thank you all for your information.

[Nesboy43]

Still have this cart, noticed tow other differnces, seal of quality is bronze on outside black on inside, and the bottom left of cart has no copyright info.

[adaml]

Still no bull

[Nesboy43]

Anyone interested in trading for this cart?