PSP Redesign / New Bundles Discussion Thread

[GrandAmChandler]

So it gets a redesign finally! And you can connect games and play them on your TV. Also Faster loading times, extended battery life. That's pretty cool, but it looks like you cannot purchase the PSP Redesign separately....

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/07/pspslimsilver.jpg

Bundles:


Silver or Black PSP Redesigned
1 GB Memory Stick
Daxter Game
Family Guy Frickin' Sweet UMD

$199


White PSP Redesign w/Darth Vader logo
Battlefront game


Also $199

Too Little Too late? Or DS Competitor? Discuss.

All three colors:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/07/dsc_1094.jpg

[RCM]

Have any pics? I've heard it's slimmer and brighter and that's it. Totally fucking weak if true. They have some great games that are currently unplayable.

[agbulls]

Wow -- am I ever disappointed. I was waiting for the redesign to pick one up for Dracula X.

Kinda funny how they just followed Nintendo's redesign of the DS to the letter (smaller, thinner, lighter, better screen). Well, at least I don't have to worry about buying this now. More money for my DS!



ROFL

[GrandAmChandler]

Pic of the silver added.


EDIT: I added all three

-GAC-

[exit]

Needless to say, I'm not surprised by it at all. The good thing is being able to connect it to your TV, but that's more of a punch in the face to early adapters.

[Jorpho]

Do you think they'll employ stronger, hardware-based security to prevent firmware exploits?

[chicnstu]

I sold my PSP last November and this makes me want another one mainly because of the TV connectivity.

[Cinder6]

FINALLY, we have TV connectivity. I'm going to pick one up, definitely. That way, I can pick up all those $5 UMD movies and watch them anywhere :)

[mailman187666]

I would only buy one if they have 100% TV connectivity cuz my other one works just fine, besides the battery life. Then I can hold onto my old one for all the fun stuff that could possbily brick my system.

[norkusa]

What are the other big changes on the PSP re-design besides the TV connectivity? Don't think I'll upgrade for that or better load times/battery life.


Anyone think the homebrew lockout will be better on this re-design?

[scooby105]

TV out is sweet. It's a feature that's been missing from pretty much every handheld ever made.

Once it becomes hackable, I'll probably get one. Older games are the only reason the PSP is any good. There are only a couple PSP games worth playing.

[neuropolitique]

Laaaaaaaaame.

[studvicious]

I want Daxter, but I don't want the Greatest-Hits version that you KNOW is going to be in the bundle. Why couldn't they offer a core version with the different colors at $169.00?? I like that it's smaller but I was hoping that they were going to change things up on it or maybe add a 2nd nub. Oh well...

TV out = nice.

[youruglyclone]

still have no clue what port type they're using for tv out

I'll still end up owning a couple during my lifetime...still tv out is the only selling point for me.

[Kamino]

god damn it, and i just bought a psp last month.
Oh well.
When's the redesign coming?? I For sure need that tv out. I hope they don't fuck that aspect up too badly - it should look relatively okay on widescreen tv's - but the low resolution is going to be killer, re: GTA Liberty city/vice city stories.
not sure this is going to work very well, considering how piss-ass the tv-outs for the first model look....I may very well stick with my current unit, seeing as i have the ps2 versions of the GTAs anyway, as well as lumines plus...

[dcescott]

I had one in Dec for a while, sold it for monies towards a new MBP laptop. I absolutley HATED the psp. I have a DS and enjoy it more, better game/ gameplaywise, not graphics thats for sure. But I just couldn't stand it. Besides being a mac user, I was almost forced to buying some shareware program to manage my music/photos etc. Annnnddd, MP4's didn't play in there right? I felt cheated. The DS is my fav, playing touchmaster right now, well worth it.

[RetroYoungen]

It honestly doesn't matter to me either way. I've already got mine, I feel NO need to hook it up to a TV (the older peripherals were like those telescopes you get as a kid with reflecting mirrors, and the image gets stretched out and pixelated), and I think my PSP is perfectly fine and enjoyable as it is.

[rbudrick]

If they do just composite out, I'm gonna Lol.

-Rob

[Richter Belmount]

Im getting the darth vader one for the hell of it.

[Jasoco]

Meh. An update to a crappy system no one is buying. Meanwhile I'm trying to figure out how to get rid of the one I have. I haven't bought a game for it since Namco Museum and got caught up in the portable web browser update, lost my ability to play NES and SNES games, that pretty much killed my enthusiasm for it. Now it's worthless to me. The redesign looks nice, but that's it. I'll stick with my DS Lite for which I have almost two dozen games. A dozen of which are top notch.

I'm sorry. I gave it a chance, but now I just want my $250 back. :(

[PallarAndersVisa]

I might buy one now, just for Dracula X.

[VACRMH]

YES! *does a dance*

TV connectivity = Sold.

[Nintendo Gamer]

.....

[norkusa]

I'm still trying to figure out how this new PSP is supposed to be a "re-design". Looks like the same old bulky PSP with crappy d-pad & buttons to me. Sure, it has the new TV output option but is that it?

The faster load times and longer lasting batter sounds more of like a firmware re-design instead of a hardware one.

[c0ldb33r]

I'm really looking forward to this. I love my PSP (it's really been picking up some great titles lately) and have always wanted a TV out.

Finally my UMDs are useful :D

[bangtango]

So I would assume the only price drop we'll see anytime soon on the OLD design is the one that happened not too long ago, from $199 to $169? That's all I care about.

[Anthony1]

I've been asking for TV out since the very beginning, but to me, TV out is completely useless, unless they have some type of dongle that allows you to connect a real DualShock controller to it. The PSP as a controller is horrible. The biggest problem that I've had with the PSP is the fact that it's the most un-ergonomic design in the history of un-ergonomic designs. You play that thing for more than 15 minutes, and your hands start cramping up, and then your fingertips start to go numb. I hate that shit. The second biggest thing they needed to fix was the lack of a second analog nub. They didn't deal with either issue. Making the PSP 18 percent slimmer and 33 percent more lightweight or whatever, just makes it smaller, it doesn't make it any more ergonomic or comfortable. Sony is all about style at the sacrifice of functionality. The recessed D-Pad is a total joke, and those slick buttons are an abomination. Everything about the PSP is designed to look slick, but not designed to feel good in the hands, or function well during gameplay.

[Anthony1]

So I would assume the only price drop we'll see anytime soon on the OLD design is the one that happened not too long ago, from $199 to $169? That's all I care about.

I'm sure the old design will be $149.99 for the holidays, while supplies of that design last.

[boatofcar]

I've been asking for TV out since the very beginning, but to me, TV out is completely useless, unless they have some type of dongle that allows you to connect a real DualShock controller to it. The PSP as a controller is horrible. The biggest problem that I've had with the PSP is the fact that it's the most un-ergonomic design in the history of un-ergonomic designs. You play that thing for more than 15 minutes, and your hands start cramping up, and then your fingertips start to go numb. I hate that shit. The second biggest thing they needed to fix was the lack of a second analog nub. They didn't deal with either issue. Making the PSP 18 percent slimmer and 33 percent more lightweight or whatever, just makes it smaller, it doesn't make it any more ergonomic or comfortable. Sony is all about style at the sacrifice of functionality. The recessed D-Pad is a total joke, and those slick buttons are an abomination. Everything about the PSP is designed to look slick, but not designed to feel good in the hands, or function well during gameplay.

I can't believe it, but you've accurately summed up every single thing I hate about the PSP, and why I sold it a few months back. I was getting ready to type up a reply until I read yours--thanks for saying everything I wanted to say for me. I have never had hand pain so bad as when I was trying to play THUG 2 Remix on my PSP.

[chicnstu]

I've been asking for TV out since the very beginning, but to me, TV out is completely useless, unless they have some type of dongle that allows you to connect a real DualShock controller to it. The PSP as a controller is horrible. The biggest problem that I've had with the PSP is the fact that it's the most un-ergonomic design in the history of un-ergonomic designs. You play that thing for more than 15 minutes, and your hands start cramping up, and then your fingertips start to go numb. I hate that shit. The second biggest thing they needed to fix was the lack of a second analog nub. They didn't deal with either issue. Making the PSP 18 percent slimmer and 33 percent more lightweight or whatever, just makes it smaller, it doesn't make it any more ergonomic or comfortable. Sony is all about style at the sacrifice of functionality. The recessed D-Pad is a total joke, and those slick buttons are an abomination. Everything about the PSP is designed to look slick, but not designed to feel good in the hands, or function well during gameplay.


I completely agree. Add me as another sheep to your herd.

EDIT: But I still have to have one for Ratchet.

[Leo_A]

Nice to see tv out and better battery life and load times. I hope the screen doesn't blur as bad too.

Too bad about the controls, was hoping for a better d pad and something different for the analog stick since the controls suck. The buttons don't bother me however.

I just hope tv out means something better than composite, and that games will play in letterbox format on sd 4:3 televisions instead of distorting everything. And a way to hook up a Dual Shock is a must.

[AMG]

The TV out is awesome. I'm really interested in a PSP right now.

[mEgAsHoT]

FINALLY Sony fixed the D-pad! If you look at a side-by-side screenshot of the redesign and the regular PSP, you'll see that they made the d-pad buttons bigger and closer together, making it easier to pull off diagonal movements. On the original PSP, the D-pad's buttons are spaced out too far, making it extrememly hard to do this. I know it's a minor fix, but it's pretty good considering the vast amounts of fighting games on the PSP.

If Gamestop runs a trade-in deal to get X amount of dollars off the new one, I'll definitely do that. I'll gladly get the newer one, especially if you can hook it up to your TV. Can you hook it up to a Standard TV?

[Bassgrabber]

As far as the revamp goes...

Sony ignored the mass amount of complaints regarding the location of the analog stick, but DID relocate the speakers. Funny no one's mentioned that/them yet!

Moving the analog stick a bit to the right, even half of the nub's surface size, would make it more comfortable for many users. Then again, could that space vacated by speakers be used for TV output hardware? Don't know how that is effected, yet. Is there a separate port, or does it use the USB port with an add-on? Wouldn't THAT be nice!

Judging by the pics at the start of the thread the D-pad buttons don't appear to be spaced any differently to me.

My games play better from the memory stick than from the UMD drive, with less power consumption. I also have a reasonably priced 3600 mAh battery on the way, and Daxter is one of the games I own already. Smoother load times, power efficiency, and inclusion of a game aren't a factor here.

I already have the fourth level of screen brightness.

I wouldn't mind the 33% weight reduction, but it's not essential.

Now true TV output I'd be interested in. NO idea as to the possibility of the "old gen" PSP getting that capability via Sony or 3rd party. I'll remain optimistic and PASS on the revamp.


other ramblings...

Wow! Maybe it's cuz I'm "old" already, and am developing arthritis, but the PSP controls don't really bother me after a few hours of play.

The one-piece stick-on D-pad button I installed makes diagonal moves effortless. I also picked up a raised analog nub. They're in even closer proximity to each other now, but I can change back to the standard analog nub if I find it cumbersome during any particular game. So far, it's all good.


I've been thinking of getting one of the controller-type grips with built-in battery, but haven't researched it at all. It looks good, but does it really function as intended?

[Leo_A]

If they do just composite out, I'm gonna Lol.

-Rob

Has component out.

YouTube demonstration Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk7mticA0Ac&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpspupdates%2Eqj%2Enet%2FE3%2DSon y%2Dannounces%2Dredesigned%2DPSP%2Dvideo%2Doutput% 2Dincluded%2Fpg%2F49%2Faid%2F97223

[dhowerter]

Hmm...

Will the new redesigned PSP have Composite out to a TV (Red, white, and yellow) as well as Component out (Red, green, blue, white and yellow) to a TV?

I don't have a ED TV / HD TV, so if it does NOT have Composite out, The TV Out feature would be unusable on my TV :-(

BTW, anybody got a link to any article stating it has Composite output? (assuming it does of course ;)

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[gepeto]

The jury is still out on the tv out for me. At e3 they showed spiderman 2 movie and not a game I curious as to why a movies and not a game.

[Oobgarm]

I haven't bought a game for it since Namco Museum and got caught up in the portable web browser update, lost my ability to play NES and SNES games, that pretty much killed my enthusiasm for it. Now it's worthless to me.

You are aware that there are plenty of ways to get the machine back to the state that you enjoyed(homebrew enabled), all while being able to play newer games as well?

As far as the redesign goes, I think it's kinda lame. It's more cosmetic than functional, and the TV out addition is kind of a waste. The hi-res screen was a major selling point of the device to begin with, and putting those games on a lower-res TV screen kinda defeats the purpose IMO.

The only way I'll ever get one is if they're cheap later on down the road and have been unlocked for emulation by the scene(which, based on rumblings I've heard, isn't going to be easy on a non-flashable firmware).

[gepeto]

One thing that I find curious is that I see the psp alot different than alot of people. I like the psp and I like the ds. Both for different reasons. The psp has alot of good games maybe not original but good nontheless.
Syphon filter ,metal gear port ops,killzone liberation,tekken ,rpg's, gran theft series. lego star wars.

I have one for home brew and one for all games. I just wonder why people have such a distain for the psp. They treat it like it software library is like the gamecom. Is it that bad am I missing something or is it just the dissapointment?

[s1lence]

So, when is it due for release?

[GrandAmChandler]

So, when is it due for release?

I think they said in the press conference September for the black / silver bundles, October for the Star Wars Bundle. Some one correct me if I am wrong.....

[Trebuken]

Couple of thoughts I did not see mentioned.

1) No mention of built in memory...wasn't there supposed to be 8GB built in? Guess they want to sell more memory cards.

2) If they are able to hack the firmware on this and we can get homebrew and emulators working with TV Out...that would be awesome.

I like it but agree with the comments about the controller not be addressed.

Should have added a camera to be used with PS3's online abilities. 'Sold separately'?

[c0ldb33r]

I already have the fourth level of screen brightness.
What? how? Please explain (hopefully with pics)

[agbulls]

You know, it might be worth it just to be able to play Megaman Powered Up, Ultimate Ghosts n Goblins and Dracula X on my 50" Sony TV.

Hmmm...maybe I need to reconsider.

[kaedesdisciple]

2) WHEN they are able to hack the firmware on this and we can get homebrew and emulators working with TV Out...that WILL be awesome.



Fixed. Where there's a new piece of hardware, there's a hacker to figure out new ways to use/abuse/break it.

[Vectorman0]

I really think 480x272 pixels is going to look like crap on any decent TV, unless Sony does something special. Especially now that we are spoiled with component out and HD signals.

Have you ever seen a PSP commercial? The actual PSP footage only takes up a tenth of the screen.

[jsiucho]

One thing that I find curious is that I see the psp alot different than alot of people. I like the psp and I like the ds. Both for different reasons. The psp has alot of good games maybe not original but good nontheless.
Syphon filter ,metal gear port ops,killzone liberation,tekken ,rpg's, gran theft series. lego star wars.

I have one for home brew and one for all games. I just wonder why people have such a distain for the psp. They treat it like it software library is like the gamecom. Is it that bad am I missing something or is it just the dissapointment?

Its because ppl are attached to their equipment and hate the rest, they dont know how to enjoy everything thats out there. I think the redesign is cool, and Ill be getting a second white one for the games and keep my current one for the Romz.

[blissfulnoise]

No internal storage ftl.

I was really all set to buy another PSP if they were to fix that godawful d-pad and provide some internal storage.

[Darren870]

I really think 480x272 pixels is going to look like crap on any decent TV, unless Sony does something special. Especially now that we are spoiled with component out and HD signals.

Have you ever seen a PSP commercial? The actual PSP footage only takes up a tenth of the screen.

QFT....people are going to realize fast it isn't going to look how they think it will.

[Anthony1]

You know, everybody does talk alot of crap about the PSP's game lineup, but I don't have any problem with the game lineup at all. I think they have some really cool games. I don't own a DS, and I'm not really interested in one. So, I'm definitely not one of the PSP hating, DS loving people. My big issue with the PSP, is the ergonomics of it. They just aren't comfortable, after about 10 minutes or so of use. Everything was designed so that the unit would be very sleek. If you consider all of the buttons on the face of the unit, everything was designed to be as flat as possible, and I think that's where the big problem lies. Sure, that might look cool, and it might slide into your jeans pocket better, but when you actually whip the thing out and start to play a game, then you realize that the recessed design of all the inputs is garbage. Even the shoulder buttons at the top are designed to look cool, but not be functional. It's very hard to reach those shoulder buttons, and you don't really get a good grip on them. I've thought about trying to figure out a way to get the PSP as close to something I could live with as possible. With my first PSP, I had a friend do the D-Pad mod in which you use some small pieces of plastic to essentially raise the D-Pad up a bit, so that you get better diagonals. I did that primarily because when playing SNES games via emulation on it, you really couldn't control the character how you would like. That D-Pad mod did definitely improve things, but not as much as I really wanted it to.

I started thinking about it, and I might try a new type of D-Pad mod for the PSP. Basically, what I would do is get a replacement faceplate, the thing that covers the actual PSP, and see if I can cut a perfect Circle where the D-Pad goes. Because the D-Pad on the PSP isn't really a D-Pad at all. It's like 4 seperate buttons. I want a full on real deal D-Pad. I'm hoping that I can find a controller with a D-Pad like the Sega Genesis 6-button D-Pad, or a Sega Saturn D-Pad, that would fit inside this new circle that I would cut out of the replacement faceplate. Then, I would no longer even use the existing D-Pad that comes with the PSP, I would completely remove that D-Pad, and use a completely different D-Pad. Sure, it might look a bit funny, but I'm guessing it will feel dramatically better during play. I've also thought about using one of those analog nub extenders, but it does seem that if you pop one of those on, then it's way too close to the D-Pad, and it just doesn't work right, so you would have to keep popping it on and off depending on the particular game. I'm not sure I would be cool with doing that all the time. I've also thought about completely replacing the PSP's buttons with better buttons, but I'm doubtful I could find buttons that would fit correctly, and I would probably just end up screwing up my PSP.

As for the hands becoming numb after about 20 minutes of play, I've always figured that maybe those hand grip things would solve that issue. The big problem with those, is that it ends up blocking your memory stick slot, and it makes the PSP more bulky. I'd still like to get one, but I'm not sure which one is considered to be the most comfortable.

[Aussie2B]

Well, some improvements are better than no improvements, I guess, but this definitely isn't too thrilling. What they were claiming earlier (or was it just rumor?) sounded WAY better, what with the built in memory and redesigned controls and more at the same price point as the original PSP is at now. I don't own a PSP at all yet, but I will need one eventually when the Star Ocean remakes come out. I'll definitely want to get the improved version, but I could do without the crappy games and movies bundled with it. Just give me a PSP with the memory stick and that's it.

Right now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the screen will be at least slightly improved so it doesn't continue to have freakin' Game Gear motion blur. That is by far my biggest problem with the system. You can have the sharpest, biggest, most beautiful screen in the world and it won't mean squat if the graphics turn to sludge as soon as you move an inch.

[rbudrick]

Has component out.

YouTube demonstration Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk7mticA0Ac&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpspupdates%2Eqj%2Enet%2FE3%2DSon y%2Dannounces%2Dredesigned%2DPSP%2Dvideo%2Doutput% 2Dincluded%2Fpg%2F49%2Faid%2F97223


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/psp.jpg

Well this pic tends to indicate you can choose what type of output you are using. Strange.

-Rob

[Nintendo Gamer]

.....

[Vectorman0]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/rbudrick/psp.jpg

Well this pic tends to indicate you can choose what type of output you are using. Strange.

-Rob

D-Terminal is the exact same as component, but not used in the US. It puts all three connectors into one. That option looks to be for progressive mode.

That said, I still think games will look bad no matter what connection is used as it is still limited by the resolution. I'm hoping to be proved wrong.

[c0ldb33r]

Biggest change - they took away the IR port!

[classicb]

nothing that gets me that excited but I was planning on buying another one (last one got stolen) anyway so I'll be getting one. This redesign doesn't really make me want to get it anymore than the old version.

I can't imagine this effecting sales too much and I would imagine that your average consumer that doesn't follow this kind of stuff is going to just view it as a bundled PSP since IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME! Its probably why they are putting it in bundles.

[Bassgrabber]

With my first PSP, I had a friend do the D-Pad mod in which you use some small pieces of plastic to essentially raise the D-Pad up a bit, so that you get better diagonals. I did that primarily because when playing SNES games via emulation on it, you really couldn't control the character how you would like. That D-Pad mod did definitely improve things, but not as much as I really wanted it to.

I started thinking about it, and I might try a new type of D-Pad mod for the PSP. Basically, what I would do is get a replacement faceplate, the thing that covers the actual PSP, and see if I can cut a perfect Circle where the D-Pad goes. Because the D-Pad on the PSP isn't really a D-Pad at all. It's like 4 seperate buttons. I want a full on real deal D-Pad. I'm hoping that I can find a controller with a D-Pad like the Sega Genesis 6-button D-Pad, or a Sega Saturn D-Pad, that would fit inside this new circle that I would cut out of the replacement faceplate. Then, I would no longer even use the existing D-Pad that comes with the PSP, I would completely remove that D-Pad, and use a completely different D-Pad. Sure, it might look a bit funny, but I'm guessing it will feel dramatically better during play. I've also thought about using one of those analog nub extenders, but it does seem that if you pop one of those on, then it's way too close to the D-Pad, and it just doesn't work right, so you would have to keep popping it on and off depending on the particular game. I'm not sure I would be cool with doing that all the time. I've also thought about completely replacing the PSP's buttons with better buttons, but I'm doubtful I could find buttons that would fit correctly, and I would probably just end up screwing up my PSP.

Anthony1, here's my PSP with stick-on D-pad (works GREAT!) previously mentioned:
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/Bassgrabber/?action=view&current=AlundraonPSPwithstick-onD-pad.jpg

This PSP will still fit inside the hard Travel Case which holds 2 UMDS and 2 memory sticks, but you can't use the left UMD storage bay. Same with the taller analog nub. No idea about the smaller PlayGear hard case without storage in the top cover. It would not work with the flat-laying Face Armor.

Next is a pic of an extra "button kit" I got, as well as extra tri-wing and phillips screwdrivers:
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/Bassgrabber/?action=view&current=D-paddustplugsanalognubstri-wingscr.jpg
The additional pieces in the kit are dust plugs and standard replacement analog nubs. A few kits and drivers are available; I ordered a few extra.


At some point I'll probably try the other internal D-pad mod on a PSP that needs the faceplate swapped out. The link for that is here:
http://ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/pspdpadfix/pspdpadfix.htm


The YouTube post up now shows the slimmer PSP in action. It DOES look like the D-pad buttons are closer together!


Did Sony lose the IR port to slim down, or what? Sure, the universal remote app was fun to try, but... meh.

If a non-bundled core model is released with good graphics relay it might be tempting. Moreso if there's an exchange credit that would make it a sweeter deal.

Otherwise, I'll keep my current assets and be content.

[j_factor]

The analog nub is still horribly placed, the d-pad looks crappy, it appears they've done nothing to address the ergonomic issues of the PSP. Why do a redesign and not address any of the major complaints against the original design?

I was looking forward to the redesigned PSP, and I would've bought one if they'd made actual design changes. This crap sucks. Looks like I'll be waiting for version 3.

[Trebuken]

The TV-Out is bound to look better than the Gameboy Advance Player for the Gamecube. The GBA Player looks pretty good on my big screen despite the framing of the picture.

The PSP has a resolution of 480x272 though I think most software usues 320x240, and this is close to standard television resolution and probably equivalent to most PS1 games. The PS1 was capable of 640x480 but I do not think many games were outputted that high and the PSP might have a progressive scan option to bolster it, plus superior scaling...

Anyways I think it will loo OK on a TV. Probably won't match a PS2 but will surpass the PS1...

[Bassgrabber]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TSutRGzvdw0

E3 Press Conference posted to YouTube. Shows demonstration of TV feature in action.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5e7YdzKmW4

An up-close look of a working model.

[Trebuken]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TSutRGzvdw0

E3 Press Conference posted to YouTube. Shows demonstration of TV feature in action.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5e7YdzKmW4

An up-close look of a working model.

Doesn't show a game unfourtunately but the trailer on the large screen looked like it had potential to be good.

[Hawksmoor]

I happen to think that the TV Out option is fantastic, but not fantastic enough to compel me to get rid of my launch PSP and get a PSP2. It's nice that it's lighter and the screen is brighter, but the design is essentially the same.

However, I am surprised by some of you that just out and out bash the PSP, claiming it has hardly any games worth playing. That's just completely false and based on total ignorance. There are LOTS of PSP games worth playing. Here's some off the top of my head:

Daxter
Every Extend Extra
Chili Con Carnage
Field Commander
Pirates!
Loco Roco
Gurumin
Crush
Ultimate Ghosts N Goblins
Powerstone Collection
Tekken: Dark Resurrection
Exit
Gradius Collection
Twisted Metal
Burnout Legends
Star Wars Battlefront
Metal Gear Portal Ops

I could keep going, but I think that's sufficient. There is ample reason to criticize Sony for the marketing and design of the PSP, but this "the PSP has no games worth playing" mantra is baseless and tired. Please give it up already.

[G-Boobie]

I think the TV out is a fantastic concept; I'll probably play games like Syphon Filter and Metal Gear PO now. Also, the concept of playing a Silent Hill game on a portable screen never appealed to me.

Now all they have to do is fix that crap analog stick, and I'll buy a new one (the old one is hacked anyways)

So my question is this; when will it be available OUTSIDE of a bundle deal, and will it retain its 169 dollar price point? It seems like a no brainer, but Sony is managed by a veritable cartload of morons.

G-Boobie, out.

[sabre2922]

I think the TV out is a fantastic concept; I'll probably play games like Syphon Filter and Metal Gear PO now. Also, the concept of playing a Silent Hill game on a portable screen never appealed to me.

Now all they have to do is fix that crap analog stick, and I'll buy a new one (the old one is hacked anyways)

So my question is this; when will it be available OUTSIDE of a bundle deal, and will it retain its 169 dollar price point? It seems like a no brainer, but Sony is managed by a veritable cartload of morons.

G-Boobie, out.

Agreed

I think the new TV out option is great and actually makes me WANT a PSP for the first time.

Im sure that the games will look fine on a regular TV and OK on a High DEF tv.

Hell I didnt realize how many hardcore technophiles we had here at DP that seem so obsessed with High def stuff and bitching about slight resolution changes etc:roll:

I thought DP was a RETROGAMING SITE and FORUM sometimes I feel like Im at the Gamefaqs or Gamespot forums hmm my bad lol.

[Leo_A]

So my question is this; when will it be available OUTSIDE of a bundle deal, and will it retain its 169 dollar price point?
Sony has stated "The newly designed PSP will replace the original PSP design starting in September with the $169.99 PSP Core Pack and the $199.99 Daxter PSP Entertainment Pack.".

[G-Boobie]

Thanks for answering my question :)

I wonder if one will have to wait in line or search for one, a la the Wii. If so, I guess we'll wait til next year.

[CosmicMonkey]

Surely the answer is enabling USB control pad support. Don't any of the custom firmwares have this feature? I've seen loads of USB pads for the PC that look just like a DualShock.

[monkeysuit]

Has Sony mentioned anything about releasing a white one without the Darth Vader skin?

[Richter Belmount]

XD monkeys

[Rob2600]

YES! *does a dance*

TV connectivity = Sold.

Why not just hook up your PlayStation 2 to your TV instead? Same games, same loading times, but a little bit better graphics.

[Nintendo Gamer]

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[petewhitley]

TV output is epic and I'll upgrade for sure. The pixel-pushers are hippocrite graphics whores who on the one hand condemn the PSP while at the same time idolize the 420p "ability" of the Wii. Grow up. Silent Hill Origins on the big screen in dark room is going to make you shit yourself.

[DeputyMoniker]

44% said no? God damn you're some fucking trolls.

[neuropolitique]

44% said no? God damn you're some fucking trolls.

yes, everyone sho disagrees with you is a troll. I've stated many times before that I want PSP, and badly. I refuse, though, to pay that much for one. All this "Upgrade" does is push back the date I can finally afford one. The physical changes may be nice, but ultimately I don't really care. I play Game Boy games on an original brick. Size and weight matter little.

And TV out on a handheld is the stupidest thing I can think of. Even more stupid than following dating advice from a website.

[DeputyMoniker]

yes, everyone sho disagrees with you is a troll.

That's an overly simplified statement. I'd expect some to disagree but 40+% is just refusal to accept the damn thing.