The Official Halo 3 Thread (Out NOW!!!)

[8-bitNesMan]

You cannot physiologically discern the resolution difference since your vision will not be able to see pixel structure past 720p (except if you qualify for the first two conditions).

So why 1080p? As always, MARKETING.

I wholeheartedly disagree. I have a 360 and a PS3 hooked up to a 40" Samsung LCD that does 1080p. My PS3 is hooked up via HDMI and the Blu Ray movies look better than anything else. I would agree that the human eye would be hard pressed to spot the difference between 1080i and 1080p, but an added 360 lines of resolution makes for a much better picture.

[neogamer]

Yup, It will be a great game.

I'll buy it, find the time to play it once, and that will be it...

I need to retire...

That way I can finally enjoy all my games....

[UniHamachi]

My PS3 is hooked up via HDMI and the Blu Ray movies look better than anything else
That's really a function of BluRay vs, say DVD. There is no 720p disc based equivalent to compare it against (and even then, mastering, codecs, and many other factors would be the root of differences in the picture well above basic resolution). It is physically impossible to notice the difference in reolsution on, say, a 50" HD set at 8 feet unless you lost an eye in a spaceship accident and it was replaced with state of the art cybernetics. That is the human eyesight limit. It's like if you scaled down a 10 megapixel picture to 1024 X 768 resolution. It won't look any more detailed than the same picture taken at 1024 X 768 resolution.

The bottom line is that a 720p game running at 60fps will look much better than a 1080p game running at 30fps because while the resolution difference is negligible at best, the framerate difference is readily apparent. So forcing developers to drop to 30fps just to have it running at 1080p is a detriment and not a benefit of Sony's 1080p marketing ploy.

[NinjaJoey23]

You cannot physiologically discern the resolution difference since your vision will not be able to see pixel structure past 720p (except if you qualify for the first two conditions). So why 1080p? As always, MARKETING.


I wholeheartedly disagree. I have a 360 and a PS3 hooked up to a 40" Samsung LCD that does 1080p. My PS3 is hooked up via HDMI and the Blu Ray movies look better than anything else. I would agree that the human eye would be hard pressed to spot the difference between 1080i and 1080p, but an added 360 lines of resolution makes for a much better picture.

Bleh. This debate has been had here, and elsewhere, many times before. Refer to this chart:
http://comcal.wboc.com/img/resvsdist.jpg

So, on your 40", you must be sitting, at the MOST, 6ft-6.5ft away for the difference to even become noticeable, and 5 or less to get the full benefit. If you're any farther away, you're imagining those extra lines. If you sit that close, give your eyes my condolences.

Here (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=938503) is the original context. There are other charts like this floating around on AVSForums.

[Mayhem]

Almost here! WOOT! :)

Or T+2 days if you live in the UK as some shops broke the street date on Wednesday... yep people here are playing Halo 3 as I type ;)

[Joker T]

I am looking forward to this game soo much.

Maybe we can have some kind of DP clan or something?

[Trebuken]

That's really a function of BluRay vs, say DVD. There is no 720p disc based equivalent to compare it against (and even then, mastering, codecs, and many other factors would be the root of differences in the picture well above basic resolution). It is physically impossible to notice the difference in reolsution on, say, a 50" HD set at 8 feet unless you lost an eye in a spaceship accident and it was replaced with state of the art cybernetics. That is the human eyesight limit. It's like if you scaled down a 10 megapixel picture to 1024 X 768 resolution. It won't look any more detailed than the same picture taken at 1024 X 768 resolution.

The bottom line is that a 720p game running at 60fps will look much better than a 1080p game running at 30fps because while the resolution difference is negligible at best, the framerate difference is readily apparent. So forcing developers to drop to 30fps just to have it running at 1080p is a detriment and not a benefit of Sony's 1080p marketing ploy.

While I agree with the point you make about frames per second you seem too fixated on what ones eye can disctinguish. These sets have much more going on than resolution. There are several different image enhancing technologies in most new sets. 1080p sets tend to be 'flagship' models for any line and always include the newsest and best technologies. The fact is you can visually distinguish between 720p and 1080 as well as 1080i and 1080p because of the enhancing technologies if not the resolution. 1080p is better and it is being marketed as such. The biggest deficit is the lack of quality 1080p source material. Blu-ray is the best consumer source at the moment (unless you can get PC games running on your set).

Anyways, anyone get the offer for a $10 gift card at Blockbuster with their Halo 3 Purchase?

What's the deal with having to be at Gamestop at 9PM to for the midnight launch of Halo 3? Is this just to prepay? Can you just pay earlier and then show up at Midnight?

[SkiDragon]

I am pretty excited about this game.

I have heard that Halo 3, and the vast majority of 360 games run at a "native" resolution of 720p, and that the 360 then scales that image up or down to run at different resolutions. Can anybody confirm or refute this?

I am in the market this weekend for a new TV, mainly for this game, and am having a hard time picking one out. If I could just decide on a resolution it would be a good start. It would also be nice if it didn't lag all to hell when I tried to play my Wii or any older system on it. Any suggestions?
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Also, why haven't there been any reviews of this game yet?

[RPG_Fanatic]

I'm horny for halo :help:

[otaku]

Can't wait! I have 30 copies of the normal and three of the collectors edition, also 2 of the special systems and 2 of the special controllers and about a dozen posters and a standee. All this for the store. Personally I'm getting a collectors copy and maybe the controllers.

can;t wait. As for why I haven't cracked open the copy I bough yet I dunno just feel like waiting with everyone else

[Lothars]

Meh, Halo 3 should be good but it's not the be all to end all people are making it up to be.

it will be a good game that shouldn't get the hype it does because it hurts the game than helps it especially when there is this much hype for it.

I probaly will be at the midnight opening though because I've never been to one.

[UniHamachi]

The fact is you can visually distinguish between 720p and 1080 as well as 1080i and 1080p because of the enhancing technologies if not the resolution.
I would not argue that newer sets look better than older sets and that the newer sets are 1080p. But this, again, is not a function of resolution. As I stated before, and as was pointed out earlier in this thread, assuming a reasonable sized screen and a reasonable distance from it, your eyes are physically unable to discern between 720p and 1080p. Period, end of sentence. Once you cannot see pixel and line structure, you will not be able to see any additional visual information even if it exists. This happens at 720p unless you have a freakishly large set or are sitting extremely close. For instance, the letters on lowest line of an eye chart look like black blobs to almost everyone, and no eyechart display technology will render them resolvable because your eyes just cannot do it. The same goes for a TV set -- the fact that you cannot see pixel structure means that you phyically cannot resolve any more detail, so even if the resolution was 10,800p, it wouldn't look any better than 720p. That you persist in believing differently means that the marketing is working on you.

[SkiDragon]

The purpose of 1080p is to allow larger TV images to not look like crap.

[UniHamachi]

The purpose of 1080i was a concession to the fact that early CRT based HD sets could not display 1080 lines in a single frame, so it was interlaced to show 540 lines per field. However, this was immaterial in a sense since the beam was too fat to actually show that much resolution anyway. With LCD, DLP, and Plasma, you can actually resolve 720 lines at 60 frames per second. Anything more is simply overkill.

The purpose of 1080p is marketing. You know, like the Jaguar was 64 bits, so it was four times as powerful as the SNES.

[SkiDragon]

I'm just thinking that 720p on an IMAX screen would look very blurry. So would 1080p probably. Im just saying that for a rediculously sized TV, one may want the higher resolution.

[Nesmaster]

Reviews are on the loose, looking solid so far:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halo3

[heybtbm]

Reviews are on the loose, looking solid so far:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halo3

9.5 from IGN. The video review is 769 MB. That has to be a record itself.

[esquire]

Any of you who pre-ordered or are planning on buying the Limited Edition may want to rethink your purchase or at least make sure you check your game before leaving the store. Apparently the game case for the DVD contains a cheap plastic nub to hold the DVD and it apparently is too small, causing the DVD to fall off and rattle around inside, and resulting in scatched discs.

Story here at NeoGAF:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192476

[RPG_Fanatic]

Any of you who pre-ordered or are planning on buying the Limited Edition may want to rethink your purchase or at least make sure you check your game before leaving the store. Apparently the game case for the DVD contains a cheap plastic nub to hold the DVD and it apparently is too small, causing the DVD to fall off and rattle around inside, and resulting in scatched discs.

Story here at NeoGAF:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192476

That sucks ass!!!!!! I would be pissed if that happened to me.

[meancode]

Just finished the game. Quite happy with it. I have one small annoyance, but I will wait until others have beat it to discuss.

[segagamer4life]

man just a few more hours till I get to play this...... wooooooo hoooooo

[misfits859]

Dammit, why do they have to do midnite releases on a Monday??? They should have done it this past weekend when I did not have to work.../cry.

It's a good time to be a gamer!

[kaedesdisciple]

I am looking forward to this game soo much.

Maybe we can have some kind of DP clan or something?

If you don't mind mediocre, 25 year old people who have jobs on your clan, count me in. Maybe we should start another thread for it?

[8-bitNesMan]

Well it's getting close to time to finish the fight! (At least until they get done counting all the money they made and start cranking out the inevitable sequel)

[NinjaJoey23]

guuuuhhhhhh

/excited

[esquire]

Well it's getting close to time to finish the fight! (At least until they get done counting all the money they made and start cranking out the inevitable sequel)

Sequel? I thought this is the last game in the trilogy?

Also, has anyone read any of the reviews yet? Of course I will withhold my judgment until I play it myself but a few disconcerning things have been mentioned, despite the high score reviews.

First, the level of difficulty in the single player game set for "normal" seems to be a little too easy.

Second, there are only 9 single player missions.

Third, it seems the game was geared towards multiplayer, rather than single player.

I got the above from of all places, MSNBC.COM's review HERE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20944792)

IGN is saying the same things about the Campaign mode HERE (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/821/821911p5.html)

Anyone of you reviewers out there know if this is the case, e.g. the Campaign only takes 10 hours to finish? If that is the case, I hate to say it, but I will be a little disappointed as I do not play much multiplayer.

[norkusa]

Anyone of you reviewers out there know if this is the case, e.g. the Campaign only takes 10 hours to finish? If that is the case, I hate to say it, but I will be a little disappointed as I do not play much multiplayer.

Most games this would be a problem but considering that I spent most of my Halo 2 playtime on Live (about 99.9% of it), it isn't a big deal to me.

The way I look at it, H3 is strictly a Live-only game with an extra Campaign mode thrown in as a cool little bonus.

[8-bitNesMan]

Sequel? I thought this is the last game in the trilogy?

I know that is what they want us to think. But I remember hearing rumors about a long term business plan to alternate a new Halo every other year for several years to come. I believe the plan was Halo 3 this year, a new Gears in '08, another Halo game (besides Halo Wars) in '09 and so on. I just don't see them killing off their proverbial golden goose. I say as long as they're good games, keep 'em coming!

[PapaStu]

First, the level of difficulty in the single player game set for "normal" seems to be a little too easy.
Normal on either Halo:CE or Halo 2 was never meant to be difficult. It was suppose to give you a good enjoyable time with a building difficulty as you worked your way through each level and game.


Second, there are only 9 single player missions. And there were only 10 missions in Halo:CE and 13 in Halo 2. Later missions in Halo 2 were much shorter due to the rushed storyline, and Halo:CE really only had 6 levels, the rest of them were basically reverse playthoughs of previously played levels.


Third, it seems the game was geared towards multiplayer, rather than single player. After the runaway success of Halo:CE's multiplayer they gave much more effort into H2's Multiplayer. This has carried over simply because although H2 released back in 2004, it is still to this day the most played game on XBL... EVERYDAY.


Anyone of you reviewers out there know if this is the case, e.g. the Campaign only takes 10 hours to finish? If that is the case, I hate to say it, but I will be a little disappointed as I do not play much multiplayer.
Well if 10 hours turns you off, then don't play BioShock either. Thats what i've been told if you just go through the game you'll end up with playtime wise. However if you engross yourself in the story of BioShock and look for everything thats 'hidden' in the game, your time triples. Halo is no different. Halo 3 has included Terminals (in part to a throwback to Marathon) that further fleshout the back story of the Forerunners, Covenant and the Humans. These are not just sitting out there for you to walk into, they require major amounts of exploration to find. On top of that Halo 3 has more skulls that are even more hidden and out of the way than they were in Halo 2 (and those wern't easy to find let me tell you). There is plenty there for you in Campaign more if you want there to be.

[neogamer]

Did any of the major video game magazines review the finished game yet?

I have yet to see a single review!

[heybtbm]

Did any of the major video game magazines review the finished game yet?

I have yet to see a single review!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/821/821911p1.html

As I mentioned above, IGN gave it a 9.5. Which is a bigger deal than it might seem, considering this is IGN we're talking about.

[Slate]

I'll be buying the regular edition off of gamefly. The only reason why I want it is because everyone on my friends list will be buying it and it'll have good online play.

[8-bitNesMan]

"Won't be long now!"










(Famous words of one John Wayne Bobbitt)

[meancode]

Sequel? I thought this is the last game in the trilogy?

Also, has anyone read any of the reviews yet? Of course I will withhold my judgment until I play it myself but a few disconcerning things have been mentioned, despite the high score reviews.

First, the level of difficulty in the single player game set for "normal" seems to be a little too easy.

Second, there are only 9 single player missions.

Third, it seems the game was geared towards multiplayer, rather than single player.

I got the above from of all places, MSNBC.COM's review HERE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20944792)

IGN is saying the same things about the Campaign mode HERE (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/821/821911p5.html)

Anyone of you reviewers out there know if this is the case, e.g. the Campaign only takes 10 hours to finish? If that is the case, I hate to say it, but I will be a little disappointed as I do not play much multiplayer.

On Normal it is more like 8, not 10 hours. Normal is easier this time around it seems, Heroic and Legendary are harder as a result.

Nine single player missions, Mission 8 being the hardest by far.

The single player campaign brings the score down from being perfect 100%. There are some disappointments in single player. One of them being the AI of your fellow Marines and the Arbiter. On Normal, they are Nimrods, to put it mildly. They are slightly better on higher difficulties. You would think after putting forth so much effort into smart enemy AI, they could have done the same with friendlies.

I would have to agree that the 8th mission does suck, and being that the game is 8 hrs. long, that is a nice chunk of the single player campaign.

[otaku]

can't wait! The store is having a huge party tonight for release gonna sell a ton of stuff and have a load of fun gonna be up way late (and then sleep a bit and back to work!) I'll be eating sleeping and breathing halo for days

mostly in it for multiplayer as well (and that includes the campaign which I will play with friends) why play alone when you don't have to?

[gepeto]

Well I broke down and treat myself to the legendary since I didn't get the console. I must say that this thing is a beast. bigger than I thought.

[GrandAmChandler]

This game is purrrrrdy good! Amazed already by the first level. A+ Bungie. A+.

-GAC-

[ZiLL]

Well I broke down and treat myself to the legendary since I didn't get the console. I must say that this thing is a beast. bigger than I thought.

I haven't picked mine up yet...but this thing looks MUCH MUCH bigger than I though it would.

I remember when it was first announced, people were saying the helmet is "cat-sized". It looks like it could fit on a small child's head if it were hollowed out (The helmet...not the kids head!!!).

[johno590]

Im loving it so far... just a few more missions to go...

[portnoyd]

This is by far the most fun I've had staring at an oversized box. AAA+++

[kaedesdisciple]

Has anyone else preordered from Amazon and not had their orders shipped yet? I'm getting kinda cheesed off, I preordered 4 1/2 months ago w/overnight shipping and it's still "shipping soon"...

[spoon]

Asked Tricia all nice to pick this up for me at midnight while I was at work. One thing I could not believe were the peeps inline over 8 hrs. before release. Seriously, Tricia showed up earlier to pay it off and some dude had a couch out there. A freaking couch. WTF? Also, she waited inline all of 20-30 mins to get my copy. Seriously

Back to the game. The freaking Legendary box is huge! game cases were a bit of a let down but, the MC head is great. I think you could fit a kitten or two inside. Maybe a cat. a smaller cat. Sad that some are getting scratched up discs.

The first few levels of the game are a bit slow, but, once the levels with the vehicles show up, its all good. My only other complaint is that your allies are a bit dumb and they don't show up or seem to feel like they are "fighting alongside" MC. Just cannon fodder. It was cool as hell to see the workers at the plant pick up guns and go toe to toe with oppressive forces though.

Haven't got to play much multi player, but, what I have, I liked quite a bit. ran great without a problem. Other than a few peeps quitting because.
The level editor stuff looks genius. Now me and my bros can truly have all the tools to do things we used to try and do for hours on end back in the day. I was thinking of making the Gravity Hammer Olympics. I already have a few ideas.

About the time it takes to finish the game- seemed no longer or shorter than another other Halo, but, just as fun. There's a ton of stuff to find and do if you want to. Just as Stu said.

Yes the game is easy on heroic. It has to be. The game is sold form the casual to the hardcore.

All in all, I couldn't be happier with the game itself. I also wish I could say the same about the packaging. Are we nerds the only ones truly complaining about it? Yes. Should we? Yes.

[heybtbm]

Halo 3 is incredible. What else can I say?

The multiplayer is 10x better than the beta...so much fun. I've played a nice sampling of maps, but I'm already sick of "High Ground" and "Snowbound" from playing them so much during the beta.

Oh, and "Shotty Snipers" needs to go. I'll veto that game type every time. It seems most other players hate it to.

For those that don't know, log on to www.bungie.net (http://www.bungie.net). They have a pretty thorough stats/gameplay tracker (it seems more robust than the Halo 2 stats tracker). Now that everyone can see your stats, there's no more bullshitting your Halo skills. The numbers don't lie!

[segagamer4life]

yeah this game is WAAAAY better than the beta... and tons more fun..... the online is PERFECT and the modes rock, I can't sing this games praises enough.

[captain nintendo]

For those that don't know, log on to www.bungie.net (http://www.bungie.net). They have a pretty thorough stats/gameplay tracker (it seems more robust than the Halo 2 stats tracker). Now that everyone can see your stats, there's no more bullshitting your Halo skills. The numbers don't lie!

Seems like they even changed the way you see your Halo 2 stats as well (of course I haven't looked at that page in a year or more)

I think my stats are pretty good. (for Halo 2)

Total Kills: 23113
Total Deaths: 18807
Total Assists: 6926

[diskoboy]

I'm probably gonna get shot for saying this but while I AM loving Halo 3, I still think BioShock is the better game.

I just don't get into multiplayer games, all that much.

[Joker T]

Incredibly fun game, haven't got into the MP too much yet but that looks amazing (especially if its better than the Beta!).

The community features are outstanding as well, Bungie's stat tracking is so comprehensive. Forge and the Replay feature are fantastic as well.

[Nesmaster]

I've never liked the Campaign in Halo, because it sucks. A lot. And I don't do a lot of multiplayer gaming either. I think I'll have the most fun messing around with some friends for a while with the Forge option. Overall, I guess Halo isn't my type of game (though I did play a lot of CTF in the PC version of Halo...). BioShock > Halo 3. Also COD4 > Halo 3.

[unwinddesign]

I'm probably gonna get shot for saying this but while I AM loving Halo 3, I still think BioShock is the better game.

I just don't get into multiplayer games, all that much.

Bioshock is ridiculously overrated. Good, but not great. Has some serious performance issues that render the game almost unplayable at points. Combat is kind of blah, enemies are stupid.



I've never liked the Campaign in Halo, because it sucks. A lot. And I don't do a lot of multiplayer gaming either. I think I'll have the most fun messing around with some friends for a while with the Forge option. Overall, I guess Halo isn't my type of game (though I did play a lot of CTF in the PC version of Halo...). BioShock > Halo 3. Also COD4 > Halo 3.

lol call of duty

[diskoboy]

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/28/halo-3-not-hd-runs-at-640p-pixel-counters-claim/

Discuss...

[dendawg]

Is 640p a PAL resolution??

the only HD resolutions I know of are 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

[PapaStu]

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/28/halo-3-not-hd-runs-at-640p-pixel-counters-claim/

Discuss...

Merged into the Halo 3 general thread.

[cyberfluxor]

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/28/halo-3-not-hd-runs-at-640p-pixel-counters-claim/

Discuss...

Being someone who believes 1080p on a 52" TV sounds like ass then at 640p it's a complete joke. For dedicated game machines home consoles SHOULD push amazing games compared to all the overhead a PC runs but it just doesn't turn out to be the case. Graphics are always just sad on consoles and have been for awhile but I've seen this game in action and when you get down to gameplay and how the graphics work with the player it's just fine. The resolution and framerate does its job and if you're going to pick on particular system brands then you're the real idiot, just like the one counting freaking pixels. The douche spends $60 on a game to count his damn pixels. Play the game or return it and do us a favor to not pick an Atari/Coleco or some other classic systems and whine about their pathetic color depths.

[UniHamachi]

There is a HUGE difference in appreciating the resolution of a PC game (where your nose is a foot away from the monitor) and a TV console game where you are sitting 8-12 feet away. In the latter, as I have stated earlier in this thread, the difference bettwen 720p and 1080p is negligible to non-existent, and I would wager that almost no one would be able to tell between 640p and 720p either. To me, this is only an issue because of the stupid marketing department playing out resolution wars that are both immaterial and probably harmful for game development. I would even wager that 480p at 60fps is more impressive looking than 640p at 30fps. And yet, no one developing 360 games will even bother trying to run the games at 480p because the marketing depts would throw a fit.

BTW, the reason the Wii games look inferior is not because of resolution -- it's because of polygon pushing, anti-aliasing, and a shitload of other factors that are not driven by resolution. Besides, all HD sets upscale to 1080p or 720p or whatever anyway.

Keep this in mind -- it took some nerd to count pixels for this "revelation" because why? Because NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

Could you imagine how awesome games would look if they ran at 480p with a rock solid, silky smooth 60fps with all the graphical muscle the 360 and the PS3 can handle? Not gonna happen though -- people who swallowed the HD bullshit will consider those games radioactive.

BTW, when I say HD bullshit, it's only in reference to videgames. The difference between HD video and DVD is like night and day.

[Nesmaster]

lol call of duty

Infinity Ward > Bungie.

[unwinddesign]

Infinity Ward > Bungie.

No, not even close.

[Alucard79]

Since this is the official Halo 3 thread, I'll ask this question. While searching all the maps for the hidden skulls, I found a family of ape-men holding a stuffed animal. What The Hell Is That About?

[heybtbm]

Since this is the official Halo 3 thread, I'll ask this question. While searching all the maps for the hidden skulls, I found a family of ape-men holding a stuffed animal. What The Hell Is That About?

Where was that?

[Alucard79]

Where was that?
1st level hug the left wall and get to the second protrusion as you come into the sniper area. Here's a pic (sorry has a lot of glare)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7614/monkeyam7.jpg

[PapaStu]

Well if you get into the Terminals at a later point in the game you come to find out (it helps to have been involved in IRIS, the viral... I mean ARG for Halo 3) that Humans are the 'Redemers' and were placed on Earth by the Forerunners as the 'keys' to the Ark (and to the various Instalations (ie. Halo's) as they are the only ones that can activate some of the inner workings) and other further Halo story points I won't bring up in here. My guess is that 'family' somehow stayed hidden in the Ark and escaped after the Covenant dug it up.

That or Bungie hid them there for shits and giggles to those of us 1337 Halo players that were scouring the game for the Skulls and other cool hidden easter eggs that Bungie is known to hide all over.

[Nesmaster]

No, not even close.

All opinions, my friend. I personally like Infinity Ward more than Bungie. Call of Duty 4 is one of my most wanted games of the year, Halo 3 on the other hand I could have done without wasting the money on. Is it a bad game? No, I just don't see why a lot of people view Halo as the second coming of Jesus.

[diskoboy]

1st level hug the left wall and get to the second protrusion as you come into the sniper area. Here's a pic (sorry has a lot of glare)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7614/monkeyam7.jpg

HOLY SHIT!! I saw that too, while skull hunting yesterday!! But I honestly thought I imagined it. Or was hallucinating...

[SkiDragon]

Whoever made that screenshot - I just discovered that if you take a screenshot in the Theatre mode, you can upload it to your "File Share", and can actually retrieve it at Bungie.net. It is pretty awesome. For example:

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=LateNightSalami


If only Metroid Prime 3 allowed something similar.

[Overbite]

I took this pic of a 4 player co-op on legendary. We were driving up that dune in a warthog with one player ghost riding on the hood when that covenant tank just flew up over us from the other side of the dune

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8223/1334721fullny0.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1334721fullny0.jpg)

[Lothars]

double post

[Lothars]

Infinity Ward > Bungie.


No, not even close.

Yeah, your wrong

it's Infinity Ward is not only way better than Bungie, Call of Duty 4 from the beta has better multiplayer than halo 3, even though Halo 3 is pretty good.

Bungie is an overrated company with one of the most overrated game series in history in the Halo series, which are decent games but not near as good as everyone says they are.

Halo 3 is pretty good, especially the 4 player co-op

[heybtbm]

it's Infinity Ward is not only way better than Bungie, Call of Duty 4 from the beta has better multiplayer than halo 3, even though Halo 3 is pretty good.

Bungie is an overrated company with one of the most overrated game series in history in the Halo series, which are decent games but not near as good as everyone says they are.

Halo multiplayer is nothing like Call of Duty multiplayer. They're two different styles of online FPS. I love Halo 3 multiplayer and I'm really looking forward to CoD4...but you can't compare one directly with the other. It's silly.

Halo is all about crazy weapons, jumping 100's of feet through the air, stealing other peoples kills, smashing your opponents skull with the butt of your assault rifle. Things that are unrealistic and over the top, but fun as hell. Call of Duty is based in realism. Strategy and teamwork come into play in a way that isn't necessary in Halo. They're two different experiences online. Anyone who plays a lot of online FPS's knows this.

[Lothars]

Halo multiplayer is nothing like Call of Duty multiplayer. They're two different styles of online FPS. I love Halo 3 multiplayer and I'm really looking forward to CoD4...but you can't compare one directly with the other. It's silly.

Halo is all about crazy weapons, jumping 100's of feet through the air, stealing other peoples kills, smashing your opponents skull with the butt of your assault rifle. Things that are unrealistic and over the top, but fun as hell. Call of Duty is based in realism. Strategy and teamwork come into play in a way that isn't necessary in Halo. They're two different experiences online. Anyone who plays a lot of online FPS's knows this.

That's a good point though, it's one of those things

It's not that I don't like Halo 3 multiplayer in fact it's pretty fun for the most part.

[Vectorman0]

So I was playing a ranked game a few days ago, and I got a triple kill and saved a couple of my team-mates from dieing and then one of those guys yells out: "Vectorman, I want you." It wasn't some joke meant to be funny either, which actually made it even more hilarious. I asked him what the hell? He just replied with, "uh, sorry". That is definitely one of the most absurd things I have heard on Xbox Live voice chat. (PC chat is another story)


Moving on, how is everyone doing with the achievements? This is one of the first games in a while that has made me want to get all of them. I only have a few single player ones left: legendary, 7 terminals, final mission meta score, blow up vehicle with equipment. The rest are free-for-all achievements that look like they may give me trouble for a little while. Does anyone have any tips for the following achievements?

-Double kill with spartan laser
-Overkill
-Killing Frenzy (I hate camping, which would make this one much easier)
-Triple kill with sword (I know I can get this, I just have to play alot to find the right situation for it)
-Board the same vehicle within 10 seconds of being boarded

[SkiDragon]

I can say that Legendary is actually pretty easy in 4 player co-op.

[Alucard79]

Moving on, how is everyone doing with the achievements? This is one of the first games in a while that has made me want to get all of them. I only have a few single player ones left: legendary, 7 terminals, final mission meta score, blow up vehicle with equipment. The rest are free-for-all achievements that look like they may give me trouble for a little while. Does anyone have any tips for the following achievements?

-Double kill with spartan laser
-Overkill
-Killing Frenzy (I hate camping, which would make this one much easier)
-Triple kill with sword (I know I can get this, I just have to play alot to find the right situation for it)
-Board the same vehicle within 10 seconds of being boarded

You may try the double spartan laser kill on snowbound. Keep it aimed into one of the buildings and eventually you may get it.
For overkill and frenzy and sword, your best bet may be king of the hill. You can play with the options a little to possibly give you a little advantage while controlling the hill. Try for the board same vehicle achievement on a small tight map. Isolation maybe. Take a mongoose down to the bottom in the flood area get in a small hallway and turn the mongoose to block the path and face the wall. Yeah you might get shot instead, but most people can't resist taking your ride from you.

[unwinddesign]

Yeah, your wrong

it's Infinity Ward is not only way better than Bungie, Call of Duty 4 from the beta has better multiplayer than halo 3, even though Halo 3 is pretty good.

Bungie is an overrated company with one of the most overrated game series in history in the Halo series, which are decent games but not near as good as everyone says they are.

Halo 3 is pretty good, especially the 4 player co-op

Call of Duty has been the same thing as Medal of Honor: Allied Assault for the past three games. Call of Duty 4 looks like about 100 shooters on the market, which means I'll pass.

If you've ever played Call of Duty 2 on Veteran mode, you'll see that the problems in the game are made painfully obvious. Play it in multiplayer, and it has serious balance issues. Is it terrible? No. It's just not great, or a classic. Call of Duty 3 was a rehash. They turn these games out in a year, and it shows.

Halo 2's multiplayer was classic. From what I've played of Halo 3's, it will be classic as well. Campaign is reasonable, but not fantastic. It's polished, there's some wanky ass stuff that goes on, but there are some memorable moments. The story is a confounding jumble of cryptic words and Bungie trying to be really clever. There are better single player games out there. Multiplayer wise, though, no shooter touches it. No game on Xbox 360 touches it. It's fast paced, but more skill based than Unreal Tournament, and it's not as camper-centric as something like Ghost Recon. The community sucks at times, but that makes victory all the better.

Obviously majority numbers mean very little, but the vast majority of the Xbox community clearly agrees with me. This holiday season, I guarantee you'll see far more people playing Halo 3 than Call of Duty 4 (or Gears of War, if anyone wants to open that can of worms).

[SkiDragon]

I have to admit: people say that Halo's setting is generic, but it is way more imaginative than the dozens of WWII games that come out every year.

[spoon]

If you've ever played Call of Duty 2 on Veteran mode, you'll see that the problems in the game are made painfully obvious. Play it in multiplayer, and it has serious balance issues. Is it terrible? No. It's just not great, or a classic. Call of Duty 3 was a rehash. They turn these games out in a year, and it shows.

I agree with your thoughts on Call of Duty 2 multiplayer and the story mode on veteran. Seriously, if you are my ally, don't fucking run in front of my gun or into a grenade. At least more cannon fodders jumps from over a wall all Rush 'n Attack style when another one bites the dust.

On a side note, COD3 was not developed by Infinity Ward.

[kaedesdisciple]

Halo 2's multiplayer was classic. From what I've played of Halo 3's, it will be classic as well.


I played MP on 2 a lot, and 3 just fits like an old glove. However, parts of it still feel new at the same time. I can feel myself getting better as I play, and when I lose I can see where I went wrong and how to fix it. I like the new visual ranking system, too, no more guessing when I'll level up. There is damn near no lag when I play this, and I'm using a wireless DSL connection from 2 rooms away.

There was a LOT of love poured into this game, and it shows.

Feel free to ping me when I'm on to party up, you can keep the sniper, just give me my BR ;)