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Red Warrior
08-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Now:

Star Fox 64, still

I'd bet that I could beat anyone's high score in the single-player mode.


My high score happens to be 1441 in single player mode. I've always figured it was possible to get MUCH higher. Just outta curiosity, how high CAN it go? And how does my score compare to yours?

DreamTR
08-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Yeah, i'd be willing to fire up some street fighter 2 turbo on xbox live as soon as I get a new arcade stick. When I use to play street fighter anniversary collection on original xbox I beat people who were in the top 10 in the ranking system. They would usually whoop on me until I played them a few times. Then when I finally won they would disconnect right before I would win. I only met a few people who I couldn't touch. I swear they must have had programmed controllers. I have even won against a few people in real tournaments here in our city. I beat some really good players while warming up last year in the seasons beatings tournament here in columbus. Some of those people were really good though. I could take any of them if I played them enough. To get better at a game you have to play better people. I learned that playing halo for years. You can play a fighting game and be really good. But until you play better players you're not going to get better. But as soon as you do play better players you get better 100 times faster.


Greedo, the rankings on XBL are a farce on almost every game. It basically boils down to WHEN you started playing instead of who you play (like a chess system on certain XBOX Live 360 games).

However, saying goes you can beat anyone on any given day, but just because you beat someone once does not mean you "beat" them more than they beat you. A lot of people do not really play much anymore but can still beat many players based on just their experience on the game.

No offense to the tournament you were at, but I would not count any tournament unless you placed top 2 in the tournament itself, and not random practice rounds. That's just the way these tournaments are.

calgon
08-03-2008, 01:12 PM
The only game I'd feel confident enough to bet 100 dollars on would be ken griffey's baseball on SNES. I really never have any problems with any competition, or the computer.

Rob2600
08-03-2008, 07:00 PM
My high score happens to be 1441 in single player mode. I've always figured it was possible to get MUCH higher. Just outta curiosity, how high CAN it go? And how does my score compare to yours?

Great score! I haven't played Star Fox 64 in a while, but I'm pretty sure I was able to get in the 1,500s. I'd need to play a few practice games, but I'm sure I could achieve that again.

In fact, I'll download the Wii Virtual Console version this week.

mnbren05
08-03-2008, 07:12 PM
I used to clean up fairly well with N64 Courtside with Koby Bryant (actually won a couple of bets playing friends) and WCW/NWO Revenge. Other than that I wouldn't bet any money on my skills.

maxlords
08-03-2008, 07:49 PM
As always... Rock N' Roll Racing for the SNES.

Nirvana
08-04-2008, 10:57 PM
WWE Smackdown! Here Comes the Pain

I used to freakin love wrestling, and I was a huge fan of the Smackdown series. Here Comes the Pain was where the series climaxed, and I played that nonstop. I can beat anyone at that game. I wish the series was still good.

ESPN NFL 2k5

Ever since EA bought the NFL license, I still played this with updated rosters. I actually bought Madden 08 last year, and it wasn't half bad, but it didn't have the replay value of ESPN NFL 2k5. I don't care what anyone says, Madden is garbage compared to this game. Oh, not to mention I can absolutely destroy anyone at this.

PixelSmasher
08-04-2008, 11:00 PM
I'm really confused by the way the title of this thread is written. Are you asking if I would pay someone $100 to beat them with a game? I'd beat them with a Neo Geo cartridge, considering how big and heavy those things are. Or a JAMMA PCB.

How about you other guys? What game would you use to beat someone if you paid $100 to do it?

Nirvana
08-04-2008, 11:15 PM
Oni.

Kill two birds with one stone.

greedostick
08-05-2008, 03:54 AM
Greedo, the rankings on XBL are a farce on almost every game. It basically boils down to WHEN you started playing instead of who you play (like a chess system on certain XBOX Live 360 games).

However, saying goes you can beat anyone on any given day, but just because you beat someone once does not mean you "beat" them more than they beat you. A lot of people do not really play much anymore but can still beat many players based on just their experience on the game.

No offense to the tournament you were at, but I would not count any tournament unless you placed top 2 in the tournament itself, and not random practice rounds. That's just the way these tournaments are.

You're right. Players who are at the top of the ranking system usually play alot. But there not at the top of the ranking system because they're bad at the game. They have lots of experience from playing tons of games, or they're at the top because they are really good and got to the top quickly. Anyway you look at it they are good players. It does take skill to reach the top of the ranking system. I seen people who had thousands more matches then the highest ranked players, and never even seen the top few hundred in the rankings.

I wish I could have played in the tournament, but I didn't have a arcade stick at the time, or money. Most of the other players had custom made arcade sticks. I know if I practiced enough I could pretty much beat anyone. These were good players from all over the country. The main attraction at the event was a $5,000 Marvel vs. Capcom 2 match against the top 3 ranked players in the United states. So there were some good players there. I also play many mini tournaments here in Columbus with many of the people who frequent these evo tournaments. So I don't just play with my friends. I play with people a few times a year who frequently win money at these tournamnets.

I'm not saying i'm the best player ever, but I have been lucky enough to pull of Guiles dizzy re-dizzy combo more then once in ranked play. Like someone said before, there is always someone better. I just feel I am pretty close to the top when I take some time and focus practicing the game.

mailman187666
08-05-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm really confused by the way the title of this thread is written. Are you asking if I would pay someone $100 to beat them with a game? I'd beat them with a Neo Geo cartridge, considering how big and heavy those things are. Or a JAMMA PCB.

How about you other guys? What game would you use to beat someone if you paid $100 to do it?

NAH, I usually just tip an MVS on top of them. I never get charged for it either.

rbudrick
08-05-2008, 01:16 PM
NES Batman (the first one)...I can beat the game on one life. I used to be able to do the same with many other games...There;s a thread I made once about games you can beat on one life I made a couple years back. Don't feel like searching for it now, though.

-Rob

DreamTR
08-05-2008, 02:33 PM
You're right. Players who are at the top of the ranking system usually play alot. But there not at the top of the ranking system because they're bad at the game. They have lots of experience from playing tons of games, or they're at the top because they are really good and got to the top quickly. Anyway you look at it they are good players. It does take skill to reach the top of the ranking system. I seen people who had thousands more matches then the highest ranked players, and never even seen the top few hundred in the rankings.

I wish I could have played in the tournament, but I didn't have a arcade stick at the time, or money. Most of the other players had custom made arcade sticks. I know if I practiced enough I could pretty much beat anyone. These were good players from all over the country. The main attraction at the event was a $5,000 Marvel vs. Capcom 2 match against the top 3 ranked players in the United states. So there were some good players there. I also play many mini tournaments here in Columbus with many of the people who frequent these evo tournaments. So I don't just play with my friends. I play with people a few times a year who frequently win money at these tournamnets.

I'm not saying i'm the best player ever, but I have been lucky enough to pull of Guiles dizzy re-dizzy combo more then once in ranked play. Like someone said before, there is always someone better. I just feel I am pretty close to the top when I take some time and focus practicing the game.


There are people with less than 50% wins in the top 30 of certain fighting games online, so I have to disagree with you on that one.

About the Guile re-dizzy. That's only in Street Fighter II, and there have not been tourneys for that since 1991..

You can't just use the lazy "if you practiced" you'd be better than everyone. You don't know that unless you HAVE BEEN the best or a top player at one time to know that. If you haven't ever been to big tournaments beating name players, that assumption doesn't fly. There are tons of people that play with their friends and use the "if I practiced" excuse, but if they have little talent in the first place to be judge on a high level, the excuse is not valid.

greedostick
08-05-2008, 06:19 PM
There are people with less than 50% wins in the top 30 of certain fighting games online, so I have to disagree with you on that one.

About the Guile re-dizzy. That's only in Street Fighter II, and there have not been tourneys for that since 1991..

You can't just use the lazy "if you practiced" you'd be better than everyone. You don't know that unless you HAVE BEEN the best or a top player at one time to know that. If you haven't ever been to big tournaments beating name players, that assumption doesn't fly. There are tons of people that play with their friends and use the "if I practiced" excuse, but if they have little talent in the first place to be judge on a high level, the excuse is not valid.

The guile redizzy is in sf2 turbo, I know for a fact. I have the strategy guide, and I have done it. I am sure that there are alot of people who if they devoted there life to 1 game would be the best at it. There are to many games to be played though, I don't have time to focus on 1 game. And I really don't care that much. All I am saying is that I am prettty confident in my skills at Street Fighter 2 Turbo/Dash. If I stepped back in time to some 1990's arcade and there were a bunch of people lined up playing Street Fighter, I throw down my $100.00

The people who win these tournaments have to get better somehow. There isn't some magical city where all the best players in the world live and practice together. These people get better by either playing xbox live, or other players who enjoy fighting games in there area. And although tournament experience is valuable, you can look on youtube or any other popular fighting game website and learn combos and tactics used by players in tournaments. Just because you haven't won some world championship doesn't mean you're not good at a game.

RagedGamer
08-05-2008, 09:40 PM
Goldeneye no question. Me with the klobb, you with the golden gun.

DreamTR
08-06-2008, 12:13 AM
The guile redizzy is in sf2 turbo, I know for a fact. I have the strategy guide, and I have done it. I am sure that there are alot of people who if they devoted there life to 1 game would be the best at it. There are to many games to be played though, I don't have time to focus on 1 game. And I really don't care that much. All I am saying is that I am prettty confident in my skills at Street Fighter 2 Turbo/Dash. If I stepped back in time to some 1990's arcade and there were a bunch of people lined up playing Street Fighter, I throw down my $100.00

The people who win these tournaments have to get better somehow. There isn't some magical city where all the best players in the world live and practice together. These people get better by either playing xbox live, or other players who enjoy fighting games in there area. And although tournament experience is valuable, you can look on youtube or any other popular fighting game website and learn combos and tactics used by players in tournaments. Just because you haven't won some world championship doesn't mean you're not good at a game.

For fighting games you are only as good as your competition. Xcopying tactics off of videos off YouTube won't give you experience in learning tricks and nuances in Vs. Mode play. There "might" be a redizzy on a home version of Hyper Fighting, but arcade I am pretty sure there is not.

greedostick
08-06-2008, 12:34 AM
Nope, the guide I have covers snes, and arcade. It's the street Fighter II Turbo Strategy Guide, Master Edition. Released in the 90's.

I just don't understand your logic that you are only as good as your competition. I agree, that it can help most players. But some people are just good at video games in general. If it was true that you are only as good at your competition, everyone would suck at video games because no one would ever get better cause there would be no competition? Obviesly there have to be people to learn the game, and set the bar for other players. They do this on there own, or by playing with friends.

We're kinda getting off the topic of the thread here. So i'm gonna unsubscribe.

The 1 2 P
08-06-2008, 08:08 PM
And Gunsmoke for Nes too. I can beat that on a single life:)

DreamTR
08-06-2008, 09:48 PM
Nope, the guide I have covers snes, and arcade. It's the street Fighter II Turbo Strategy Guide, Master Edition. Released in the 90's.

I just don't understand your logic that you are only as good as your competition. I agree, that it can help most players. But some people are just good at video games in general. If it was true that you are only as good at your competition, everyone would suck at video games because no one would ever get better cause there would be no competition? Obviesly there have to be people to learn the game, and set the bar for other players. They do this on there own, or by playing with friends.

We're kinda getting off the topic of the thread here. So i'm gonna unsubscribe.

SIngle player and VS player are completely different. Your logic means if you can beat the computer and do combos all day, you're an all-star, which is 100% not true in competitive VS. mode fighting game play.

leicamaster
08-06-2008, 09:51 PM
Scarbble the board game or on a VG console!

aaron7
08-07-2008, 12:41 PM
Frequency on PS2. I'd good at a lot of games but I'm sure there are plenty better than me!

megamaniaman
08-07-2008, 02:37 PM
I once offered $60 to anyone to people I knew if they could beat me in a game of Megamania. No one could.

SegaAges
08-07-2008, 03:04 PM
If we count tournament stuff, then I got something that will qualify my skills in Capcom vs SNK 2.

I live in Omaha, we have Family fun center here. They hold actual league tournaments here.

When I went to FFC on a daily basis, I showed up one time and the person ranked 4th in the Midwest Conference was there and I smoked him.

I also played 2nd ranked, and that was bad, he got me good.

But yeah, for ranked matches, I smoked the 4th ranked person in the Midwest Conference a few years back in CvS2, and I assure you, I have not lost my touch in that game.

slicky2
08-07-2008, 04:22 PM
Winning 11, I'm good in this game but I'm sure there are people who are better than me.

greedostick
08-07-2008, 06:37 PM
SIngle player and VS player are completely different. Your logic means if you can beat the computer and do combos all day, you're an all-star, which is 100% not true in competitive VS. mode fighting game play.


Did you read any of my posts? You are completely twisting my words around.

You are saying it is NOT possible for someone to be the best at a game unless they have won some tournament and proven themsleves.

I am saying it IS possible for someone to be very good at a game, maybe even the best, even though they have not won some tournament. Maybe EVO or MLG has never came to there city. Maybe they have never had a chance to prove themselves.

Your hypothesis of how someone can't be the best at a game without winning a tournament is absurd. Look on the MLG website, or history of the old EVO tournaments. Newcomers come and win these things quite often.

If someone has never won a tournament they could be the best in the world. You never know what kind of people don't have the opportunity to enter these tournaments. However, for them to be RECOGNIZED as the best in the USA, Japan, or the world, is not possible without actually winning a tournament.

DreamTR
08-08-2008, 10:43 AM
SegaAges:


I've been running the Midwest Championships in Chicago (now part of the EVO series) in June since 1994, and I have to say, as familiar as I am Omaha and the crew there at Family Fun Center, there is no such thing as a "Midwest Conference" ranking system for that game. Maybe for that arcade in particular for that game; I honestly don't know who the best CVS2 player is in Omaha, probably Cameron or Datrick, but I don't think there was ever anyone dedicated over there, but that's besides the point. Omaha is a BAD place for Capcom vs SNK 2 since no one really took it seriously there. Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike is a different story, as there are at least 5-6 quality players that play on high levels there.


Did you read any of my posts? You are completely twisting my words around.

You are saying it is NOT possible for someone to be the best at a game unless they have won some tournament and proven themsleves.

I am saying it IS possible for someone to be very good at a game, maybe even the best, even though they have not won some tournament. Maybe EVO or MLG has never came to there city. Maybe they have never had a chance to prove themselves.

Your hypothesis of how someone can't be the best at a game without winning a tournament is absurd. Look on the MLG website, or history of the old EVO tournaments. Newcomers come and win these things quite often.

If someone has never won a tournament they could be the best in the world. You never know what kind of people don't have the opportunity to enter these tournaments. However, for them to be RECOGNIZED as the best in the USA, Japan, or the world, is not possible without actually winning a tournament.


I'm not twisting your words. The MLG in general is a farce, none of the fighting game players take that seriously at all. The main deal is EVO. Now about the history of the old EVO tournaments...like I said above, I've been a part of this for a long, long time, and relative unknowns DO NOT end up winning EVO each and every year.

It's always the same group of "known" players doing well with the only major surprise being Justin Wong losing to Yipes in MVC2, but Yipes was well known in NYC anyway, and Justin was due for a loss. Can't win tourneys for 6 years in a row in a game that keeps evolving. It's usually a Japanese contingent winning, or in the case of Soul Calibur, Guilty Gear, etc, they usually have only one of that style of tournament, and then don't run it again.

But these tournaments:
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Marvel VS Capcom 2
Street Fighter III: Third Strike
Capcom VS SNK 2

Those are the ones they have had multiple times, and it was either a Japanese player winning, or a top old school American player that has previously done well in tournaments.

gum_drops
08-08-2008, 12:19 PM
3D ultra mini golf for the PC.

There are too many gameplay issues effecting the courses that unless you have played it several times, its an automatic win for me.