The Street Fighter IV thread

[boogiecat]

The only mail I ever got in SF4 was when I beat an Akuma with Zangief, and the guy said "Damn Zangief is a beast now".

Hahhaha that's funny...

[Nirvana]

So Dream Theater owned me pretty bad. This was probably my worst night in recent history. I went from 6500 BP to 6200, then decided to cool down and face Dream Theater. He beat me about 9 times. I was way too aggressive, and Cammy not having an overhead move hurt me pretty bad. I gotta adjust. No excuses, you were the better man tonight. But I'll definitely be willing to face you again.

Anyway, I decided to play more games, but just kept losing. I'm at 5900 BP now. It just got ugly.

[G-Boobie]

So Dream Theater owned me pretty bad. This was probably my worst night in recent history. I went from 6500 BP to 6200, then decided to cool down and face Dream Theater. He beat me about 9 times. I was way too aggressive, and Cammy not having an overhead move hurt me pretty bad. I gotta adjust. No excuses, you were the better man tonight. But I'll definitely be willing to face you again.

Anyway, I decided to play more games, but just kept losing. I'm at 5900 BP now. It just got ugly.

He beat the ever-loving shit out of me in HD Remix a few months ago, so don't feel too bad. :)

I know you played Cammy: who are you playing, DreamTR?

[GnawRadar]

So Dream Theater owned me pretty bad. This was probably my worst night in recent history. I went from 6500 BP to 6200, then decided to cool down and face Dream Theater. He beat me about 9 times. I was way too aggressive, and Cammy not having an overhead move hurt me pretty bad. I gotta adjust. No excuses, you were the better man tonight. But I'll definitely be willing to face you again.

Anyway, I decided to play more games, but just kept losing. I'm at 5900 BP now. It just got ugly.

Isnt' Cammy's focus attack an overhead?

[c0ldb33r]

Does anyone know... are there any plans to change the VS system so that it will allow spectators? That way you can watch others or could play loser out. That would be a decent DLC offering.

[DreamTR]

Nirvana: You are actually a very good player, but you don't have any spacing, that's the problem. It's not that you are being too aggressive, you're just relying on too many special moves to do the job =P

GBoobie: I always try and use everyone in fighting games at least a little bit, but my main character is Bison. I think I played 6 different characters on Nirvana last night and he used Vega once and Cammy the rest of the time...

Nirvana's definitely got some great potential if he learns some spacing, that's really the only problem....everything else is pretty proficient. Better mixups than a lot of people....

[kupomogli]

After getting to 0BP, I decided I actually wanted to play again. So worked my way up to 900 yesterday and 2600 today. Then the person I just fought. Had 7000+BP with me at 2600.

I won and guess how many points I got. 178. Wtf? That much more and I just get that?

I also fought a Sagat who actually didn't turtle. He only had 2900 points but he was the best player I've faced. He kicked my ass. So now I have a question as well. How do you cancel an unblockable?

[Nirvana]

Nirvana: You are actually a very good player, but you don't have any spacing, that's the problem. It's not that you are being too aggressive, you're just relying on too many special moves to do the job =P

GBoobie: I always try and use everyone in fighting games at least a little bit, but my main character is Bison. I think I played 6 different characters on Nirvana last night and he used Vega once and Cammy the rest of the time...

Nirvana's definitely got some great potential if he learns some spacing, that's really the only problem....everything else is pretty proficient. Better mixups than a lot of people....

Yeah. I have a lot of bad habits. Like, if someone jumps over my spiral arrow, I immediately do another one. Or if they block my spiral arrow, I go right into a cannon spike.

I didn't pick anybody else for a couple reasons. One thing is that I really need to be able beat a great player as Cammy, since she is my main. Also, I picked Vega because I have fun using him, despite not being great with him. I also enjoy using Guile.

I headed into training mode today to practice my combos and re-check the range on all of my pokes. Also, I am in the process of mastering the TK Cannon Strike.

[kupomogli]

I wish Ryu's ultimate was without a cutscene.

The only way I can get off hitting someone with it is to hit them with a single fireball first close range(or super.) Or if I do an unblockable on them and then use it.

I was just winning against another person and he quit the game with half health on the second round. I messed him "quitting bitch." He replied. "why would I quit, I was smokin you." That's bullshit. Asshole had one loss and less health than I had. It'd have been different if he was lagging badly, but it was a perfect connection(from what I could tell.)

*edit*

I also now have 3026 points. I've found out how to beat alot of characters who turtle much easier than before. With Sagat stay ducked and move forward after a high, or move backwards a little and jump when he does a low so you stay out of range. I also like to move forward a little more in range and then jump backwards with an HK where atleast 50% of the time they'll jump forward with a forward MK/HK/HP but I'll get them with the hit(but that's only if I see them jumping towards me alot while turtling.) I think M. Bison is the easiest to beat because most of the players love the down/up hk and I'm almost always waiting for that, jumping backwards then throw an HK, so if they change it up with a down/up k then pp, I'll be safe regardless.

I still hate turtles, but probably more before because I've never played people turtling all the time. Guess I just had to get used to it. If I wasn't bitching like a little girl I'd most likely have 3500-4000 points or higher right now. Because I ended up lowing my BP to 0 and then decided I wanted to come back to the game. My win percentage is in my main screen is also terrible since I lost all those times on purpose. I think it brought me down to 60% by the time I finally got to 0BP. No idea what it is now.

[ubersaurus]

You can cancel a focus attack by just dashing. As for Ryu's ultra, I usually land it by hitting someone with an Anti air jab shoryuken, and then doing the ultra as they're coming down. Works like a charm.

[Nirvana]

Ryu's Ultra is pretty amazing. I see a lot of people online do something like LP Shoryuken -> Ultra. Pretty easy to do and really damn effective.

[G-Boobie]

Yeah. I have a lot of bad habits. Like, if someone jumps over my spiral arrow, I immediately do another one. Or if they block my spiral arrow, I go right into a cannon spike.

I didn't pick anybody else for a couple reasons. One thing is that I really need to be able beat a great player as Cammy, since she is my main. Also, I picked Vega because I have fun using him, despite not being great with him. I also enjoy using Guile.

I headed into training mode today to practice my combos and re-check the range on all of my pokes. Also, I am in the process of mastering the TK Cannon Strike.

Vega is rad. He's sort of nerfed in SF IV, but he's a lot of fun to use anyway. The backflip into scarlett terror or lp roll REALLY makes people online crazy.

I picked up SF IV for 360 to play Sotenga and a couple of the other HG 101 peeps. Add me, Nirvana: I'm up for getting stomped by friendly internet locals.


EDIT: Sending a friend request your way too, Dream TR. Either I deleted you(accident!), or vice versa.

[boogiecat]

F@ck my friend already beaten me on this game 20 times!!!Oh man!!!

[Nirvana]

Vega is rad. He's sort of nerfed in SF IV, but he's a lot of fun to use anyway. The backflip into scarlett terror or lp roll REALLY makes people online crazy.

I picked up SF IV for 360 to play Sotenga and a couple of the other HG 101 peeps. Add me, Nirvana: I'm up for getting stomped by friendly internet locals.


EDIT: Sending a friend request your way too, Dream TR. Either I deleted you(accident!), or vice versa.

K, I'll add you when I get home from work.

I've been running into a lot of disconnecters lately, it's really been pissing me off. Take the loss like a man, you know?

[kupomogli]

K, I'll add you when I get home from work.

I've been running into a lot of disconnecters lately, it's really been pissing me off. Take the loss like a man, you know?

Me too. I've had atleast 10 altogether today. Which I message promptly. "Fuck you fucking quitting faggot."

These are people that are "More Skilled" as well. So I'm losing quite a few points.

*edit*

What the fuck? Two assholes disconnected in a row. I'm starting to take pictures of all those that quit in the middle of the match. I'm going to send them to Capcom. I would be at 4000 if not for this fucking bullshit. But no. Almost get a win and these piece of shit mother fuckers quit the game. Last match and I ended up getting the guy stunned. As soon as I got that ducking uppercut and going to the high Shoryuken showed the disconnection message.

I hope all these pictures I'm taking actually do something. I'd like to see less of this bullshit and those who disconnect get their names removed from the rankings and banned.

WHAT THE MOTHER FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GOD DAMN FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!! ANOTHER FUCKING BITCH! THIRD FUCKING PERSON IN A ROW.

I know how these piece of shit mother fuckers get there high ranking, they do nothing but disconnect from matches because they get on their knees and suck fucking dick at the game and are no fucking good against real players. Not only do these fucking pussy bitches turtle all the time, now I'm starting to catch every fucking piece of shit asshole in the world that wants to disconnect.

Not that I'm a good player. But I don't disconnect.

*edit a third time*

Street Fighter 4 is a piece of shit. Because of all the damn disconnectors I got today and the people who beat me, I dropped under 3000. Capcom should have made some bullshit for people to get penalized for disconnecting, that way they don't fucking do it. This is horseshit. I got more than 10 fucking people disconnect against me today. It takes long enough to get in a fucking ranked match to begin with(upwards of five minutes.) That's five minutes wasted you have to sit there or atleast in the same room in case you get in a ranked match.

*edit

And another fucker. I'm still taking these pictures. Cussing these pieces of shit assholes out on there PSN mail as well. Telling them hope they like being banned and that hope cheating was worth it.

I only got two disconnections done on me before today. This is pissing me off more than the fucking turtles.

Two more. Both Akuma players. One guy messaged back after I said I took the pic saying it was connection problem. Game running full speed. He had one loss to my none, and then it disconnected with him having enough health to get killed by a Hadoken WHILE BLOCKING. Connection problem my ass.

Atleast I didn't lose to anyone else so far. Ranking is 3200BP again.

*edit*

Played a little bit more and overall got four more disconnects. Back down to 2900BP. You know. Fuck this bullshit. You get the game to have a good experience and then I work around the fucking turtles and go. Okay, I won't be bothered by this bullshit, when infact 99% of the piece of shit mother fuckers still do turtle. But I don't mind, it's okay that they're pussy ass faggot bitches who can't do anything but pick Sagat and his extreme bullshit range that even when you do counter turtle against him he's still a hard fucking piece of shit when one fucking wrong move takes just as much damage with him doing a single fucking attack than you can do in a fucking combo, not to mention an attempted grab or unblockable gets you a tiger uppercut to the face, which hurts so much more when it's powered up one. I think this is the only character people have used whos beaten me all day today except for a very good Ryu and a bitch Akuma. Then the bitches who you do win against who use Sagat end up not only being pussy ass mother fucking turtles, but then disconnect when you actually fuck them up like the stupid ass mother fuckers they are. What's worse is I bet all those people who beat me would have disconnected if they were about to lose as well, especially seeing as most of those piece of shit assholes used Sagat and turtled like fucking bitches.

I doubt Crapcom is going to do shit even if I mail them. Street Fighter 4 is a terribly made piece of shit video game. End of story. Soul Calibur 4 gives a penalty for disconnects, but nooo, not SF4. Maybe I should disconnect every time I almost lose. You know. If Capcom doesn't do anything, then I'm going to do that. Every time I lose one round, I'm disconnecting. If 99% of the pussy ass bitches on here are going to, I'm going to as well. There is no penalty, so who the fuck cares. I'll cheat like those assholes on there. Street Fighter 4 is a piece of shit.

[boogiecat]

Ryu's Ultra is pretty amazing. I see a lot of people online do something like LP Shoryuken -> Ultra. Pretty easy to do and really damn effective.

Yeah that's true!!:hail: Man if only i could do that!!

[G-Boobie]

K, I'll add you when I get home from work.

I've been running into a lot of disconnecters lately, it's really been pissing me off. Take the loss like a man, you know?

Like I said before, my friend: to Hell with ranked matches.

'Battle points' have pretty much proven to be worthless. Player matches are where it's at. And, should you desire something tangible in-game to base your self-appraisal on, there's always the 'win percentage'.

[norkusa]

I haven't played any games online yet (still unlocking all the characters and learning the moves first), but Capcom doesn't give the loss to the person that drops the connection??? They do it in HD Remix, so why not in SFIV?

The only thing that pisses me off more than the disconnect losses are game designers who ignore the problem and do nothing to fix it.

[SurfKahuna]

Anyone here from AZ or CA? If so, we should have a good connection. I live in Phoenix. Here, add me on XBL: SurfKahuna. BTW, bring your A game ;).

[ProgrammingAce]

If the game doesn't penalize you for disconnecting before you loose, why wouldn't you? Obviously Capcom is aware that people disconnect when they're about to loose, they decided not to do anything about it.

Sounds like a legitimate strategy to me. I don't really see why someone would sit there and take a loss if they don't have to. Capcom left disconnects up to the honor system.

[Famidrive-16]

Does anyone know... are there any plans to change the VS system so that it will allow spectators? That way you can watch others or could play loser out. That would be a decent DLC offering.

Supposedly a 'Champion Update' is set for June or so, and will allow lobbies, spectator modes, etc. I don't know much else about it though.

[carlcarlson]

Me too. I've had atleast 10 altogether today. Which I message promptly. "Fuck you fucking quitting faggot."

*loooooong rant*


You've proven yourself to be a person of real quality in this thread.

[G-Boobie]

If the game doesn't penalize you for disconnecting before you loose, why wouldn't you? Obviously Capcom is aware that people disconnect when they're about to loose, they decided not to do anything about it.

Honestly, I think Capcom decided against penalizing disconnects due to accidental (and therefore legitimate) drops. I don't care about rank or battle points myself, but some people take them very seriously (for some reason).

Which leads us to the next subject...


Sounds like a legitimate strategy to me. I don't really see why someone would sit there and take a loss if they don't have to. Capcom left disconnects up to the honor system.

You know, you're right. That being said, it's pretty dumb to cheat in order to get battle points, since cheating immediately robs them of any value. If battle points are supposed to represent and reflect skill in a game, and you 'knock over the chess board' whenever you think you might lose, the entire system becomes suspect.

So again: player matches are where it's at. Not dealing with E-penis enhancement currency and the irrational behavior it produces makes any game better, in my opinion.

[Nirvana]

If the game doesn't penalize you for disconnecting before you loose, why wouldn't you? Obviously Capcom is aware that people disconnect when they're about to loose, they decided not to do anything about it.

Sounds like a legitimate strategy to me. I don't really see why someone would sit there and take a loss if they don't have to. Capcom left disconnects up to the honor system.

1. It's inconvenient as hell. To disconnect you have to go back to the dashboard unplug your cable or turnoff your 360. Disconnectors usually really fucking suck, so are they seriously willing to start the game back up after every single match? It's pathetic that they actually are willing to do this, as I always see people back online that have disconnected.

2. I'm pretty sure in HD Remix you got the win if the other person disconnected. This might be wrong, but as far as I remember that's how it was. They should award you with the appropriate amount of BP and deduct the same amount from the disconnector, as if it was a win and loss. They should be able to do this if they did it for HD Remix.

Some people, like myself, enjoy having SOME sort of ranking system. The win/loss ratio would be sweet if it didn't count ranked matches. My friend and I mess around a lot when we play each other online. Kinda sucks it affects my ratio.

I know I'm not a certified programmer, but hell, that's just my two cents.

[Famidrive-16]

2. I'm pretty sure in HD Remix you got the win if the other person disconnected.

It was, but was glitchy and didn't work all of the time. In the recent patch the disconnect win system works a lot better, for me anyways on the 360.

[Nirvana]

It was, but was glitchy and didn't work all of the time. In the recent patch the disconnect win system works a lot better, for me anyways on the 360.

What is it?

[G-Boobie]

What is it?

It's the way it was originally intended: dropper gets a loss, winner gets a win, and ranking is persistent and doesn't randomly reset itself.

The system in HD Remix before the patch would occasionally give YOU a loss when the other dude dropped. I ended up with a 500 win, 300 loss percentage on PS3, and at least 50 of those losses were drops.

HD Remix is far less glitchy post-patch, but Vega still causes desynching sometimes, which sucks.

[Mayhem]

1. It's inconvenient as hell. To disconnect you have to go back to the dashboard unplug your cable or turnoff your 360. Disconnectors usually really fucking suck, so are they seriously willing to start the game back up after every single match? It's pathetic that they actually are willing to do this, as I always see people back online that have disconnected.

Not sure about that. I had my second quitter yesterday, disconnected while losing the second round (I won the first) and had a small amount of energy left. When I got back into the search screen and pulled up a list of new people to play, he was already back in the lobby system looking for someone to join and play him according to the results. Lag on the search perhaps?

[Nirvana]

Not sure about that. I had my second quitter yesterday, disconnected while losing the second round (I won the first) and had a small amount of energy left. When I got back into the search screen and pulled up a list of new people to play, he was already back in the lobby system looking for someone to join and play him according to the results. Lag on the search perhaps?

I don't have an explanation for that. Generally, I'd say it'd be inconvenient though.

I really hope a lot of you guys aren't backing these disconnectors. Legitimate strategy my ass.

[Mayhem]

Indeed. Given it took all of 20-25 seconds for me to pull up another search, to see him immediately back there was a bit of a surprise. Now usually I go find battles and don't host as I prefer being on the right hand side; could being host allow you to do something? And no, I don't condone the disconnects, if I lose, I take it. Sometimes really frustrating against stupid opposition who get lucky or spam a move set over and over again.

Still I have made it over 1,600BP so making progress here, slowly but surely...

[kupomogli]

I'd assume since he was back there, he didn't quit the game or turn off the system. The disconnector most likely had a router and just pulled the cord and plugged it right back up. Pulling out a modem cord the modem does take a little time, but the connection to a router that's broken will pull up in about five seconds. So yeah. Broken connection between the PS3 and it still probably disconnects.

My friend was over the other day, doesn't own Street Fighter 4. First match I showed him online and it was a disconnector. No one else disconnected, but it's still bullshit. The other thing is that some of these disconnectors are pretty good. I mean. If they win, obviously they won't disconnect, but when they almost lose you know they're going to. So someone could play good, but still be just as much a pussy as the other cheaters. It also makes you think if all the close matches the people aren't disconnectors as well. I just message the people and lie to them, saying that I took a picture and will email Capcom their disconnection. It usually gets me more than one reply back about how they don't care, which usually the second time when you don't answer whining about "If you want to play another match you can add me and we'll play." Scared that they'll get their PSN's banned. A simple lie probably stops them from disconnecting from anyone else.

*edit*

Three out of five games I won people disconnected from. Thankfully the only person I lost to was ranked 5000+ and I only lost 4 points, but this is bullshit.

--

Got my first Double KO. It was Ryu against Ryu. 3900 rank against my 3400. I ended up gaining 29 of his points, probably because I'm lower rank. I hate trophies and gamerscore, but too bad there is no Double KO trophy.

[Nirvana]

On a side note, I finished a couple people's Hard trials. Here's who I've done:

Cammy
Sakura
Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Dan
Guile
Sagat
Zangief
Seth

Some of em ain't bad, but others are just awful o_O Cammy's second was pretty difficult, but her trials were the first ones I finished.

[kupomogli]

4250BP. 1700 in the rankings. Would be a higher rank if didn't get disconnects. Fewer than before though.

*edit*

It's 9:00PM CST. The only asshole I get in a game with stays there and disconnects me from his game every time(without starting it.) I haven't got a single match since 8:20. I've been pressing the X button the entire time and "could not play" repeatedly except this stupid ass fucker who is a pussy and won't play a match. I've been watching a movie while waiting for a match in my difficulty. 40 fucking minutes. Crapcom also needs to fix actually getting in a game. I understand "unable to play someone else joined before you," but stop that "unable to play" bullshit that I get 99% of the time.

Might as well beat noobs and get 1BP per match. Yay.

[Nirvana]

These Hard Trials honestly ain't that bad. Has anyone done them all? I finished the entire first column (the original 8 characters). I'm working on Balrog right now.

As for BP, I'm at 7506 right now. I realized that I can't enter ranked matches unless I've used Cammy for at least a half hours worth of gameplay so I'll be spot on with all my combos and stuff. Lately I've also been doing Player Matches. Gouken is my secondary main :) He's fun as hell to use. Plus, he's the closest thing to Karin with all of his counters. If only she was in the game...

[kupomogli]

What was bullshit I was playing arcade mode with my search priority as ranking and "more skilled." Ended up only giving one person that actually gave me 30 points. Everyone else I got 1BP from and then after about 15-20 matches of winning, I fought another turtling Sagat who had no HP twice on both the second and third rounds, but he had about 3000 BP and I still lost 100 points. Just Because Crapcom's shitty matchmaking system that when you're in arcade even when looking for more skilled opponents you get people ranking from 0-3000.

What's more bullshit is that during that Sagat fight, I went from Shoryuken to the Ultra on the third round to kill him(which is actually really easy like you guys said,) but since it was lagging during that match, it didn't catch the motion which he stayed back doing fireballs and then caught me with a Tiger uppercut LP/MP/HP when I jumped forward over one of them. If that lag wasn't there he wouldn't have won. I would have probably gained 30BP. Yay for shitty match making systems. You both can't get in a battle usually and then you get fucked by a low ranked turtle even though you're searching for more skilled. Way to go Crapcom.

[Damaramu]

Got my first Double KO a couple of days ago; my Cammy vs their Fei Long.

Gott DAMN, I've encountered a TON of chippers; those players that run at you and JAB+JAB+JAB -> special move (or stronger punch/kick).

Also encountered my first disconnector: I picked E.Honda, he grabbed Balrog and I proceeded to mop the floor with him. Come round two, the match is suddenly disconnected. Pussy.

[carlcarlson]

http://dessertyears.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/whining.jpg

seriously

[namzep]

I'm excited. I finally got around to ordering a copy of the game (finally found a copy of the CE for 360, would've preferred PS3, but at the price I wanted). I haven't actually played much SF since the days of II and all of the remakes of it but have been looking for a good fighting game and this seemed better to me than Soul Calibur IV.

[Nirvana]

We should have a tourny for fun. Anyone interested?

[Trumpman]

Carlcarlson is right. Every single post kupomogli writes is whining about something.

[c0ldb33r]

in kupomogli's own words, "bullshit"
Dude, if the gave causes you so much strife, just stop playing it. It didn't take me long to realize that this game wasn't for me... so just move on! Personally, I've gone back to a classic. It's got the gameplay that I love, good graphics and music and great playability. Plus, my arcade stick didn't cost a hundred bucks LOL

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/th_IMG_0371.jpg (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/?action=view&current=IMG_0371.jpg)

I suggest that you do the same.

[kupomogli]

I'll quit the game soon. Just need to get my rank under 500. I'm already rank 1501.

*edit*

Rank 700 something now.

[DreamTR]

Nirvana, you should head to my friend's tournament in Northbrook. It's about 50 miles from you I think. Last tournament a couple of weeks ago had 70+.

[Nirvana]

Cool. Where can I get more details on it?

Wait, is it your friend who added me on XBL?

[DreamTR]

Nirvana: I don't know who added you on XBL. His name is Ari. He goes by the nickname "Floe" online, but here is the link for the tournament. You should be a member of this site because it will make you a better SFIV player. You do have a good grasp of the game so far, and you should try playing in this tournament to see where you stand against locals...

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=182294

[Garry Shandling]

I've had atleast 10 altogether today. Which I message promptly. "Fuck you fucking quitting faggot."

Gary Shandling

[G-Boobie]

Gary Shandling

I agree one hundred percent. That was long overdue.

[gepeto]

Went by my local gamecrazy and i just happened to stumble on to the Te sticks. Looks sweet. Smaller than I thought but nice. A classy look.

[boogiecat]

So far i've been playing this game online this time on the Playstation 3's which is just fine!!:-D

[whoisKeel]

I was also set at "More Skilled." If more skilled is people that have 100-500 points then I guess that's correct. Also Ryu or Ken. I'm good with all three characters. I mostly use Ken but I think I'm better with Ryu.

...



All THREE characters!!!!1 Who would turtle against !!!Ken!!!! and his never ending supply of non-vulnerable specials!!

[Nirvana]

Nirvana: I don't know who added you on XBL. His name is Ari. He goes by the nickname "Floe" online, but here is the link for the tournament. You should be a member of this site because it will make you a better SFIV player. You do have a good grasp of the game so far, and you should try playing in this tournament to see where you stand against locals...

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=182294

Ah, lol. Don't worry, I've been a member of Shoryuken since 04 :) Can you believe I managed to snag the name Cannon Spike as a username?

But cool, I'll definitely check that out. Thanks dude. I'd like to play you again sometime, and I'll pick other characters this time too, lol.

Which makes me kinda want to ask...do you play ranked? Because if someone of my caliber can get to 8000 BP, makes me curious how you're doing on the leaderboards. I know I could check, but I'm actually not home at the moment.

Anyway, I'm almost done going through everyone's hard trials. I have to do the 5th trial of Crimson Viper, Gen, and Fuerte. Viper's trials are a pain compared to everyone elses, but when you get good at them, they're so damn cool.

[DreamTR]

Nirvana, I play ranked, but not much. I have around 6300 BP but I'm not really playing ranked every night or anything....

EDIT, ok, I checked, and I have 6680 BP with 203 Ranked Wins, and you have around 8800 with 666 Ranked Wins...That's a lot of playing =P

[kupomogli]

It would be nice if the multiconsole games you could actually play ranked from one system to the next. That way the ranked scores wouldn't differ so much.

A theory of mine would be that seeing as the 360 has much more of a US userbase, it's easier to get into a game. Atleast one third or one half of the high ranked people on the PS3 I get into are in Japan, Europe, etc, so usually they will end up kicking you out because of the match up speed(this is because distance of both players.) A reason why I think there are some people who may say the 360 has a better connection speed with most of their battles.

On the PS3 version. The top 1000 ranked people are 4000 or less(I'm currently 600 now with 5400 points.) What's your specific rank on the game Nirvana? I know you have 8000BP, so do you have a double digit rank yet?

[Nirvana]

Nirvana, I play ranked, but not much. I have around 6300 BP but I'm not really playing ranked every night or anything....

EDIT, ok, I checked, and I have 6680 BP with 203 Ranked Wins, and you have around 8800 with 666 Ranked Wins...That's a lot of playing =P

Ah, lol. Damn. 293 ranked wins with 6680 BP...you could probably climb your way to the top o_O Also, I'm not gonna lie; I do multiple quick matches to warm up sometimes. Seeing me gain +1 BP isn't very satisfying, but I gotta warm up somehow, even if it means beating down people new to the game >_>

Kupo, when I checked my rank in the afternoon, it was 159. It changes very often, though. Also, my brother actually said many of the same things you just did, about how it would be sweet if you can play people from PS3 network. That'd be crazy.

[DreamTR]

Ah, lol. Damn. 293 ranked wins with 6680 BP...you could probably climb your way to the top o_O Also, I'm not gonna lie; I do multiple quick matches to warm up sometimes. Seeing me gain +1 BP isn't very satisfying, but I gotta warm up somehow, even if it means beating down people new to the game >_>

Kupo, when I checked my rank in the afternoon, it was 159. It changes very often, though. Also, my brother actually said many of the same things you just did, about how it would be sweet if you can play people from PS3 network. That'd be crazy.


No, it's 203, not 293.... =P I only have 203 ranked wins.

I used to play all the Street Fighter games online. The only one I played a LOT was Capcom VS SNK 2, where I had about 15000 games played and won about 84% of them....I stopped having time to dedicate to them like I did years ago, though....

[Nirvana]

Yeah, easy typo. The 9 and 0 being close to each other etc o_O

All the Street Fighters online? Did you have Street Fighter collection for the Xbox also? I know HD Remix and Street Fighter II are on Live arcade.

Funny that you mentioned that game, actually. My brother put it in right now for the hell of it. I love Capcom vs SNK 2. The thing is though, when I bought it, it wasn't very popular, and I got it for the PS2, so no online play. I was only able to play it against my brothers and two of my friends. Although as I'm playing it, I definitely can say I miss Cammy's Spiral Arrow that ALWAYS goes under fireballs, and the 0 recovery time after a LK Spiral Arrow. Not to mention the awesomely fast gameplay.

Street Fighter IV is the first one I really started to play real competitively against a wide range of players. I actually always played fighting games within my small circle of people. Unless you count those times when I was like 7 years old with my oldest brother at the arcade >_>

[DreamTR]

Yeah, easy typo. The 9 and 0 being close to each other etc o_O

All the Street Fighters online? Did you have Street Fighter collection for the Xbox also? I know HD Remix and Street Fighter II are on Live arcade.

Funny that you mentioned that game, actually. My brother put it in right now for the hell of it. I love Capcom vs SNK 2. The thing is though, when I bought it, it wasn't very popular, and I got it for the PS2, so no online play. I was only able to play it against my brothers and two of my friends. Although as I'm playing it, I definitely can say I miss Cammy's Spiral Arrow that ALWAYS goes under fireballs, and the 0 recovery time after a LK Spiral Arrow. Not to mention the awesomely fast gameplay.

Street Fighter IV is the first one I really started to play real competitively against a wide range of players. I actually always played fighting games within my small circle of people. Unless you count those times when I was like 7 years old with my oldest brother at the arcade >_>

Yep, all of them. I played:

CVS2,
3rd Strike
Super Street Fighter II Hyper Anniversary Edition (sequel to ST)
HD Remix
Capcom Fighting Evolution
SVC Chaos (I know it's SNK, but I liked it!)

[boogiecat]

Nirvana, I play ranked, but not much. I have around 6300 BP but I'm not really playing ranked every night or anything....

EDIT, ok, I checked, and I have 6680 BP with 203 Ranked Wins, and you have around 8800 with 666 Ranked Wins...That's a lot of playing =P

Wow that's alot..Hehehe owning a arcade gaming business is really helpful...

[DreamTR]

Wow that's alot..Hehehe owning a arcade gaming business is really helpful...

Boogiecat, Nirvana is the one with all the points and wins, 3x as many as me..

[Nirvana]

Just curious, has anyone gotten far in the Hard Trials, or attempted them? I was finally able to do Crimson Viper's 5th trial. Pretty difficult, but I got it. Now I just have Gen's 5th Trial and Fuerte's 5th Trial. I actually got so close to getting Gen's, but I missed the last couple of kicks for his Gekiro. And Fuerte's is just >_>

I have been playing my fair share of player matches lately. I got to 9000 BP, but I've been doing player matches just to use everyone else for the hell of it. I forgot about how fun it is to use Ryu and Guile. Love this game.

[Nirvana]

I got all the acheivements in this game ^_^

I've been doing a lot of player matches lately, since it's so hard to find people in ranked that have the same amount of battle points.

[Mayhem]

Yeah. Ever since I got over 2,000 BP, I think I've only faced about 3-4 people who had more BP than me. The rest have had less, even when searching "more skilled".

[carlcarlson]

I got a new Ken controller for the 360 yesterday in a lot of stuff. I'm probably going to sell it, but I was wondering, are these any good? It's made by MadCatz but it looks pretty nice.

[Nirvana]

I've got all of the fightpads except Akuma. I love them, they're perfect for fighting games. I always strayed away from buying fighting games for the X-Box 360 because of the awful d-pad, but the Fightpads are great. Now I'm working on getting an arcade stick.

[kupomogli]

I just ended up doing Ryu's fifth hard trial after trying for a bit. Didn't take me as long as I thought to end up doing.

Anyways. I don't know if it just came out today or what, but when I turned the game on it forced me to download the Championship patch. So yeah. Now there is the Championship ranking thing. I've yet to try it.

Are the disconnect wins going to count just for the Championship rankings or is it going to count for all of ranking? I hope it counts for all.

[Nirvana]

It's probably just for Championship Mode, unfortunately.

I like the double blind picking. Although the gamertag Cannon Spook might give it away sometimes.

[kupomogli]

What is that? Where they don't know who you're choosing? 99% of them will choose Sagat so I doubt it matters. Almost everyone I play now that I'm in 5000BP+ plays as Sagat or Blanka. I actually always play as Ryu now.

Also. Since you supposedly get to choose your replay match, I am going to atleast once try to do that final hard challenge combo with Ryu on someone if I can pull it off. If I can that's going to be the one I choose to put up there. If by some streak of luck that's done on me, I'm going to be pissed.

[kupomogli]

"The battle did not conclude properly so you must restart from the first match."

This is the bullshit fucking message I got on my last Championship win, and when I say last I mean fucking last because I'm not playing that bullshit again unless it's fixed by Capcom. The battle did not conclude properly? I had two fucking wins and won the fucking battle. How did it not fucking conclude "properly."

Not only that but when I went to play the next match, it decided that it'd put me at 1% disconnection rate. Wtf? Why not fix all the fucking bugs in the system before releasing this piece of shit, Capcom.

The bad part about it is that there was a 3/5 connection rate and it was the final fucking match(so I would have got more GP than if I lost.) Since it's a free patch, Capcom must have decided they'd release it buggy as shit. A few months later we'll see a patch on the PSN and XBL for 5.99. The non-buggy Championship patch(that's exactly what it's going to be called, guaranteed.) Fuck Capcom.

[Nirvana]

What is that? Where they don't know who you're choosing? 99% of them will choose Sagat so I doubt it matters. Almost everyone I play now that I'm in 5000BP+ plays as Sagat or Blanka. I actually always play as Ryu now.

Also. Since you supposedly get to choose your replay match, I am going to atleast once try to do that final hard challenge combo with Ryu on someone if I can pull it off. If I can that's going to be the one I choose to put up there. If by some streak of luck that's done on me, I'm going to be pissed.

I love the irony of this. You say you only see Sagats and Blankas, then you admit to using Ryu, who I have definitely seen the most in the coarse of about 2000 matches. Personally, I don't find anything wrong with using a really popular character, but people who always waited for you to pick first upset me a bit. Seriously. Double Blind picking DOES matter. I've mostly ignored all the whining you've done in this thread, but spewing something like "double blind picking doesn't matter because you only see Sagats and Blankas" is the true bullshit. In Championship mode, I've actually seen a huge variety of characters. Hell, I saw more Fei Longs yesterday than ever. It's good to see people are straying away from their main in championship mode.

[Mayhem]

Dunno about that, or maybe it's just the times I've been playing: I'd say 90% of the characters I've faced in Championship mode have been Ryu, Sagat, Blanka or Cammy. Hardly anyone else gets a look-in so far. And I've managed to get myself into the G2-E bracket for now...

[G-Boobie]

I'd say that while there are still a pretty good number of shotos, the diversity has broadened at least a little bit. I've had good matches against pretty much every character in Championship mode now.

[Trumpman]

"The battle did not conclude properly so you must restart from the first match."

This is the bullshit fucking message I got on my last Championship win, and when I say last I mean fucking last because I'm not playing that bullshit again unless it's fixed by Capcom. The battle did not conclude properly? I had two fucking wins and won the fucking battle. How did it not fucking conclude "properly."

Not only that but when I went to play the next match, it decided that it'd put me at 1% disconnection rate. Wtf? Why not fix all the fucking bugs in the system before releasing this piece of shit, Capcom.

The bad part about it is that there was a 3/5 connection rate and it was the final fucking match(so I would have got more GP than if I lost.) Since it's a free patch, Capcom must have decided they'd release it buggy as shit. A few months later we'll see a patch on the PSN and XBL for 5.99. The non-buggy Championship patch(that's exactly what it's going to be called, guaranteed.) Fuck Capcom.

Dude, you need to calm down. Every single post you've made in this thread has been either a rant or a bitchfest about SF4. If you don't like it, don't play it. If you get beat by a 'cheap' strategy, it's not cheap - maybe the other player is just better than you.

I seriously doubt that Capcom said, "Oh, this patch sucks and has lots of bugs - let's release it to piss off all of our fans!" Maybe there was a connection glitch, which is especially likely if this happened to you ONLY ONCE.

Seriously, if you hate the game so much, why do you even bother to play it?

[Nirvana]

Dunno about that, or maybe it's just the times I've been playing: I'd say 90% of the characters I've faced in Championship mode have been Ryu, Sagat, Blanka or Cammy. Hardly anyone else gets a look-in so far. And I've managed to get myself into the G2-E bracket for now...

I'm at the G2-E bracket too. And I can honestly say that I have only seen two or three Sagats on the way there. Maybe I was just fortunate, but there's a hell of a lot of people who use different characters.


I'd say that while there are still a pretty good number of shotos, the diversity has broadened at least a little bit. I've had good matches against pretty much every character in Championship mode now.

There'll always be a number of shotos, but seriously, it's really diverse now.

BTW, I'm a little upset at seeing all the Cammy users all of a sudden. That's the one bad thing about people using more characters, they have to steal my main >_> I do love destroying them, though. So many of them are awful.

I got two tournament sticks today. I don't think I'll be playing ranked online for awhile, as I really need to get used to using the sticks in training mode and player match. All I do know, is that I am landing these TK Cannon Strikes like nothing now.

[Mayhem]

So many of them are awful.

Yeah, I absolutely annihilated someone with 5000GP+ who was using Cammy last night...

Outside of what I call "the main four", then yes I agree, the remaining matches has been somewhat more spread than when playing Ranked (and I think most good people are playing Championship now; my last 6 ranked matches have yielded 6BP!). To be fair I'm surprised I've encountered as few Balrogs as I have so far, and then again I've faced up against a few Rufus, Gen, Seth and Vega players.

At least they seem to attack and want to try and break me down. I can probably say the same for most of the Blanka players too, even though I hate playing against him. But many of the shoto opponents and especially Guile (bleargh) are going even more turtle on me and that's hard to break down when you can't jump in and have to grind them down using tiger knee and fireballs. Ditto Dhalsim, but that's somewhat how you have to play him so I rather accept it's gonna be a drawn out affair.

Managed to win my first G2 tourny last night, so really pleased with that; third time lucky. If I get past the first match, I tend to win at least the next if not the third as well. Love to know how some people have whored up the GP already...

[kupomogli]

Seriously, if you hate the game so much, why do you even bother to play it?

Half the reason most people play games is to find and bitch about the flaws. How many versions of, overall, the same game, has Capcom released to end up perfecting it? But when they're not getting extra money for a Championship mode, they'll leave it half assed because it's not like they're releasing Street Fighter 4 Championship Edition for 59.99, so why should they bother putting that extra bit of work into it to make it only slight better than the previous version(like every other SF title ever released?)

Also. That wasn't the only time the game said it didn't conclude properly either. It said it about four times altogether(in the whole hour I played,) but that was the only time it gave me a disconnection percent, which is pure bullshit. I also got no disconnections from others and no lag in almost all of the matches I've played. It's like you win only to be fucked over by this glitchy patch.


I love the irony of this. You say you only see Sagats and Blankas, then you admit to using Ryu, who I have definitely seen the most in the coarse of about 2000 matches. Personally, I don't find anything wrong with using a really popular character, but people who always waited for you to pick first upset me a bit. Seriously. Double Blind picking DOES matter. I've mostly ignored all the whining you've done in this thread, but spewing something like "double blind picking doesn't matter because you only see Sagats and Blankas" is the true bullshit. In Championship mode, I've actually seen a huge variety of characters. Hell, I saw more Fei Longs yesterday than ever. It's good to see people are straying away from their main in championship mode.

Truthfully I wish I would see people play as Fei Long, Gen, Cammy, etc. I'd rather see a more diverse group of enemies. I don't own a 360 anymore and haven't played Championship mode on one so I don't know how many people play as what characters on that specific system. On the PSN though, I see the majority of people playing as Sagat and Blanka, so yes, it doesn't matter if it's blind or not. Out of other characters aside from Blanka and Sagat, Ryu has been chosen more than anyone else. I played again on Championship again today. Both the other day and today, I've yet to see a single Fei Long, Gen, Cammy, Dan, Abel, Crimson Viper, Rufus, Rose, Dhalsim and Seth in Championship mode.

Thankfully I've seen Sagat players more than Blanka because to me Blanka is harder and I've probably lost to 30-50% of those Blanka players. I've seen one M. Bison, one Chun Li, one Gouken, one Ken, one Guile, three of that one mexican, three E. Hondas, three Balrogs, about five Vegas, and one Akuma. The only Akuma I faced was good. He turtled, which pisses me off, but he had this down to an art he was so good with it. I must have fought 20+ Blankas, all of them turtling and they do the same thing, but there's really no way to get around their turtling and every mistake costs you so you almost have to play a perfect game against Blanka to win. If people want to turtle I wish they'd play as M Bison more because he's extremely easy, or Vega.

I might go back to playing as Sagat as a secondary, just haven't played as him in awhile. Blanka can't turtle against him like he can on Ryu. Turtle with low fire balls as Sagat to make the Blanka player stop acting like a pussy. I just don't play as him because he's God-Tier and pretty much cheap when it comes to the amount of damage he takes off. Someone is close up doing chipping damage? EX Tiger Uppercut to take probably double or triple what they took off. Can turtle against anyone. Weak against none of the other characters.