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XYXZYZ
02-18-2009, 04:15 PM
There are already a couple threads with specific topics regarding SFIV, but this one is a general thread about the game.
I like it! It feels a lot like Super Turbo with a bit of 3S thrown in. (I'm mostly playing Chun Li) I've finished it a few times but still don't quite have it down yet. To me, timing your moves is harder than the 2D games, the 3D animation throws me off. So it'll be a while before I get a feel for it, I'm gonna stick to fighting the computer until I'm comfortable enough with it to go online.
I think SFIV is definitely worth the hype. Though I do have my complaints here and there, I think Capcom really delivered on this one.
heybtbm
02-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Topic #1.) How much I suck at Street Fighter. Online record: 2 and 11.
I bought the guide today. For $20 (!). I am determined to improve.
I picked this game up today, it looks beautiful and the controls are pretty solid for the most part. The game requires more strategy than it does in most other fighting games, since running into a battle will more than likely result in a very quick death. I also like the added moves to the list, even throwing has its own set of movies, which makes things more varied than just pressing the heavy button in hopes to get a throw in. The game can get pretty tough even on Easy mode, which can get pretty damn frustrating, especially with that asshole Seth, I hate it when they throw in cheap final bosses to purposely make things hard and he's as cheap as they come.
Receiving online challenges as you're playing Arcade mode is a really nice addition, it really does make it feel like you're playing at arcade, but I'm sure it will get pretty frustrating after awhile since you don't have the option to accept or decline a challenge. They could have easily added a challenge accept option and an option to toggle it on or off if you choose.
Speaking of the online mode, I played a quick game (quickly got my ass kicked that is) and it ran extremely smooth, I didn't notice any kind of lag other than it taking a bit to get past the match set up screen.
Capcom really did do a good job with the game, it's the fighting game I've been dreaming of and it's nice to finally see my dream come true. I only wish I didn't have to wait an extra day to get the game, if this happens with RE5 next month I don't think I'll be as patient.
kupomogli
02-18-2009, 07:26 PM
Street Fight IV is badass. Play more like Third Strike if you ask me.
Anyways. I don't own the game, but played it on the 360 last night and this morning for a few hours. Matt's friend Jordan is the one who picked it up, and like all other fighting games, we switch controllers depending on who loses. Me, Steve, Matt, Jordan, and Adam were there(though Adam didn't play since he's never played a fighting game other than Soul Calibur.)
Here's how it all went down. My turn is up. Chose Ken as I'm more of a fan of him than Ryu. 55 Wins later I'm still playing and missed hanging out with my friend Jeremy and two girls we're supposed to go drinking with. That's actually when I left. I called them and said I'd be right there, an hour late.
Stopped back over at Matt's house to play Street Fighter 4 again last night and spent the night, played it once I woke up for about two hours. At that point, I played nothing but ranking(which was untouched by anyone except for me playing it.) So I ended up getting 3, 5, and 10 wins in a row to get gamerscore on Jordan's XBOX Live account, along with around 30 - 40 extra wins, also a few losses. In the morning when I woke up, Matt's XBOX Live account was signed on, got him 3, 5, and 10 wins in a row as well. With Matt's record, I ended up getting three losses and about 50 wins though. Matt ending with 1400 points and Jordan ending with 1000.
So the question I have to ask. It's Street Fighter. Where are all the pros? I'd assume they'd be on but I've rarely fought a person who was any good. I've atleast gotten 90 wins and about 10 or less losses(I didn't look around to check and see where you could find wins either, though the rank points are posted above.) Between both of the Live accounts I played to get their stats up, my rank on points(if added together and paired against others on the listings) would be rank 100-110(that's in less than half a day worth of playing the game.)
There are some things I dislike about the game though, amazing as it is. Ryu and Ken's spin kicks are now useless against anyone that has common sense unless used to counter in the air(but then I'd rather just jump and do a High Kick and land to shoot a Hadoken in their face.) Another thing is just how over powered Zangief is, more so than before, so you had to turtle while fighting him before, you have to do so more this time around. Last. Why put Akuma in the game other than being an overpowered version of Ryu and Ken(no one has to answer this, I just think it just gives an unfair advantage to people who are actually better and use characters like Ryu or Ken against someone who gets "lucky" and lands Akuma's "take 1/2 the damage off special" and his air Hadoken attacks.)
Then about the online. What pisses me off is sometimes it actually takes upwards over 2-3 minutes before you actually are able to join a game. Quick match, match up, sorry you can't join the game, or, sorry you can't join the game someone is already in it. Or something like that. Other than that, I've only had some lag two matches(one was a second delay time, the other was actually extremely low framerate.) For around 100 matches of online ranking, two with lag isn't bad at all.
Mayhem
02-18-2009, 08:17 PM
Seth is cheap. Bloody hell, I had a very frustrating time on the 360 pad trying to beat him with Abel to unlock Fei Long. Getting Rose via Bison was only slightly less frustrating. For whatever reason those two seemed bloody hard; he fell fairly easily to the other characters I was playing as. Just got Gouki and Gouken left to unlock before going through as all for Seth himself... and hopefully my TE stick will arrive tomorrow.
Receiving online challenges as you're playing Arcade mode is a really nice addition, it really does make it feel like you're playing at arcade, but I'm sure it will get pretty frustrating after awhile since you don't have the option to accept or decline a challenge. They could have easily added a challenge accept option and an option to toggle it on or off if you choose.
You can change it. Hit right button/trigger to pull up the status menu, there you can set arcade challenging to off, player (friends list I assume) or anyone. It's where you also set your player icon and status.
Overbite
02-18-2009, 10:10 PM
I usually play as Ken but everyone and their mom know what Ryu/Ken do so I get beat easily. I play Cammy now :)
Wolfrider31
02-18-2009, 10:14 PM
We've all been playing it pretty extensively at work and I'm having a blast. I confess that I've never been a big Street Fighter player - I was always into more obscure fighters and Virtua Fighter was my mainstay so I barely know how to use Ken or Ryu.
Still, I love almost everything about it. The combat system is deep and complex without being convoluted, the art style is amazing, it's got a great sense of humor and feels "different" enough to warrant the IV label.
One thing I'm really impressed by is the speed. I was afraid that the 3D models would make the game feel "clunky" but everything feels just as fast and fluid as the best of Capcom's sprite based fighters.
gepeto
02-18-2009, 11:13 PM
I am so excited I ordered mine from capcom online a month ago and it still hasn't arrived. The Hell!!!! It Hasn't even shipped. Anyway my friend tells me it seems slow and sluggish. One of my pet peeves is after playing a fast version it is harder to slow down the pace. I hope it is fast as 3rd strike.
Trumpman
02-18-2009, 11:15 PM
I've ordered mine from Newegg. Hopefully it will be here soon. We should play on Xbox Live at some point.
Nirvana
02-18-2009, 11:53 PM
My god. I bought this game today, and I am amazed by this incredible game.
Street Fighter II was the first video game I have ever played, and I've been a huge fan of the series since. When Super Street Fighter II came out, that's all I would play. I mained Cammy in that game and have ever since in every game she's in. From that game, to the Alpha series, to Capcom vs. SNK 2, I've always used Cammy.
Now, unlocking Cammy was quite the feat with Crimson Viper (man. she's alright, but she's not the best o_O ) But I was glad to see that Cammy remains to be awesome in this game. I love her ultra. And her voice is excellent. Definitely matches her character instead of that little baby voice they gave her in SFA3.
As for the game itself, this fighting game is incredible. I am pleasantly surprised with how they did the animations in this game. All the characters seem pretty balanced, or so I hear from Shoryuken forums and GameFaQs. I had one online battle earlier as Cammy and I decimated a Sagat.
Anyone else entering the Gamestop tourny? Kinda sucks because I can't pick Cammy in it or use my custom configuration, but I still think I can do great. I've been playin the game my whole life.
staxx
02-19-2009, 12:31 AM
Grrrrr Gamestop shafted me on the SF4 CE PS3 edition. I preordered it and they didn't have enough quantities to fulfill the preorders (even though I ordered in early January). I will raise hell if they don't get me one by this weekend. GRRRRRRRRr add this one to the Gamestop hatred quota.
Arcade_Ness
02-19-2009, 03:14 AM
I was finally able to track down a PS3 copy tonight, after work. I'm loving C. Viper so far, at least until I unlock Cammy. Seth is a cheap sob. One can only hope that the success of SF4 will mean a new Darkstalkers or Rival Schools game in the future.
Famidrive-16
02-19-2009, 04:09 AM
Yeah I spent like all day playing this today (my local gamestop didnt receive shipments till this morning)
Some random notes:
- Being a Zangief main most of the time I really like the improvements they gave him. The reach is a little ridiculous (gave grabs at times I didn't even mean to) but they really evened him out so that he has a better time fighting the cast than in previous games, although Guile's still a nightmare to deal with. I'm just happy I can jump over Akuma's air fireballs now.
- Really wish they made larger online lobbies. One-on-one gets old after a while and it takes a while to set up for another player. I also wish there was some sort of quick option to join someone on your friend's list who has the REQ mode on, as system menu Join Session doesn't really help.
- What the hell happened to Fei Long?
- I didn't think Seth was *that* bad.
- Wish there was more to the medals system.
DreamTR
02-19-2009, 11:45 AM
I'm not sure why everybody thinks this game is 3rd Strike mixed with Super Turbo.
It runs off the Street FIghter EX engine. If you have ever played SFEX in your life, go back to that series and you'll see what I am talking about. They took the normals, most of the supers, everything. THis is essentially Street Fighter EX 4 with hitboxes.
The ONLY thing 3rd Strike like is the fact that you THROW with Jab and Short, and you have access to EX moves.
Other than that, it's Street Fighter EX 100%. The problem is, most people skipped the EX series, but if you stick a 4 on this title, everyone jumps up and plays it because of the hype not realizing they were set up with SFEX all along...
Bojay1997
02-19-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm not sure why everybody thinks this game is 3rd Strike mixed with Super Turbo.
It runs off the Street FIghter EX engine. If you have ever played SFEX in your life, go back to that series and you'll see what I am talking about. They took the normals, most of the supers, everything. THis is essentially Street Fighter EX 4 with hitboxes.
The ONLY thing 3rd Strike like is the fact that you THROW with Jab and Short, and you have access to EX moves.
Other than that, it's Street Fighter EX 100%. The problem is, most people skipped the EX series, but if you stick a 4 on this title, everyone jumps up and plays it because of the hype not realizing they were set up with SFEX all along...
Well, in everyone's defense, Capcom themselves have been going on G4 and on web sites and pitching the game as a perfect blend of SFII Turbo with some elements of SFIII thrown in. Of the dozens of interviews and reviews I have seen, not a single one has mentioned EX.
ubersaurus
02-19-2009, 12:13 PM
I'm not sure why everybody thinks this game is 3rd Strike mixed with Super Turbo.
It runs off the Street FIghter EX engine. If you have ever played SFEX in your life, go back to that series and you'll see what I am talking about. They took the normals, most of the supers, everything. THis is essentially Street Fighter EX 4 with hitboxes.
The ONLY thing 3rd Strike like is the fact that you THROW with Jab and Short, and you have access to EX moves.
Other than that, it's Street Fighter EX 100%. The problem is, most people skipped the EX series, but if you stick a 4 on this title, everyone jumps up and plays it because of the hype not realizing they were set up with SFEX all along...
Personally I just like that there's no parrying and no custom combo nonsense. How long has it been since Capcom put out a non-marvel fighter like that? Never had the patience to learn any customs, and I never cared enough about 3rd strike to learn how to work with the stupid parries.
So whether or not the game is like the EX ones, it's already done well in my eyes :P
duo_r
02-19-2009, 12:24 PM
it really does feel like an EX game. Not a bad thing in my opinion because I liked that series, but ya I think that is the best way to describe it. I was ready to do the spin kick move 3X in a row.....
DreamTR
02-19-2009, 12:43 PM
Well, in everyone's defense, Capcom themselves have been going on G4 and on web sites and pitching the game as a perfect blend of SFII Turbo with some elements of SFIII thrown in. Of the dozens of interviews and reviews I have seen, not a single one has mentioned EX.
I'm sure they did not mention it because EX did not sell gangbusters, and they want to keep comparisons out of the way, but believe me, it's the EX engine. I'm not even sure if they own the rights to all those characters that ARIKA did for them, so who knows....
Anyone who has played ST and 3s extensively can not say this game is anything close to those two games.....not even close...
Wolfrider31
02-19-2009, 01:20 PM
I'm sure they did not mention it because EX did not sell gangbusters, and they want to keep comparisons out of the way, but believe me, it's the EX engine. I'm not even sure if they own the rights to all those characters that ARIKA did for them, so who knows....
Anyone who has played ST and 3s extensively can not say this game is anything close to those two games.....not even close...
So do you like it or not? Not trying to be a troll, I'm actually curious. :)
Snapple
02-19-2009, 02:11 PM
Seth is SO CHEAP. I have beaten him with four different characters, but not before I threw some hissy fits. There are things you can do to make it easier to beat him, but in the end there's still too much luck involved.
I mean, you can block his attack, and you'd think that would give you an opening, but sometimes he still can hit you first. You can time whatever move you want to hit him as soon as he teleports next to you, and maybe it will land or maybe he'll say, "Fuck that, here is my unblockable dragon punch combo." Last night I was fighting against him with Sakura, and I probably got him down to a sliver of health like 40 times before I beat him. He always finds a way to steal victory against the odds. Oh, and if he manages to block anything you do close range, there is a 100% chance you're about to eat a piledriver for like a sixth of your lifebar.
XYXZYZ
02-19-2009, 02:23 PM
Seth is SO CHEAP. I have beaten him with four different characters, but not before I threw some hissy fits. There are things you can do to make it easier to beat him, but in the end there's still too much luck involved.
I mean, you can block his attack, and you'd think that would give you an opening, but sometimes he still can hit you first. You can time whatever move you want to hit him as soon as he teleports next to you, and maybe it will land or maybe he'll say, "Fuck that, here is my unblockable dragon punch combo." Last night I was fighting against him with Sakura, and I probably got him down to a sliver of health like 40 times before I beat him. He always finds a way to steal victory against the odds. Oh, and if he manages to block anything you do close range, there is a 100% chance you're about to eat a piledriver for like a sixth of your lifebar.
I'm with you on Seth, but just give it time, and we'll get that sumbitch's patterns and weaknesses figured out.
Icarus Moonsight
02-19-2009, 04:10 PM
I played the 360 version for about 3 hours today (first time playing SFIV)... I have serious issues with the difficulty curve. I play Ken and Zangeif, playing on medium I was getting trashed. For fun I threw it up to hardest and WTF!? I can go all the way to Seth with no continues! Are you serious? Nevermind trying to beat Seth on hardest... I tried about 20 times, only able to get him down to a sliver before he busts out the super cheese and doom throw juggle. He's a wall. I can't get to Seth on medium (I'm figuring I could actually take him on that diff) but it's a cakewalk to get to him on hardest and then he's impossible? I don't get it. Maybe I'm just messed up. I had a bunch of people watching me at the Game Crazy I was playing at. It felt like playing SF2 in the arcade all over again. Took me back a good 16 years or so. That much, at least, was awesome. :D
Focus attacks are neat. I'm trying to learn Abel and Fuerte.
98PaceCar
02-19-2009, 04:14 PM
Seth seems to be a bit inconsistant for me. I tore through him with Ken like he was nothing but with Guile (a stronger character for me), it took me 15 or so times with me getting so frustrated I wanted to throw my stick through the wall. I'm not much of an SF player so maybe it adjusts the difficulty down a bit to make it easier for folks that aren't any good.
Wolfrider31
02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Since SFIV has me on a fighting game kick, does DP have a fighting game list anywhere (like the RPG lists Daria has up)?
c0ldb33r
02-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Seth is a cheap fucking asshole. He is a terrible terrible boss.
I was playing through on easy. Yes.. easy. I blew through every character until I hit him. If I fought him once, I easily fought him 25 times. Eventually I won. Not because my skills improved, just because the computer make him less of a dick then the other times. I think the computer just decides at a certain point that Seth is going to win and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
Also, why does this game not have a quicker continue method? Every time I continue you have to sit there while you die in slowmo, then hit start to continue and your character does a little animation. Then pick your character (I always continue with the same one). Then the announcer announces the location (same location as last time) and then says something about my name going on a tablet or something.
WTF?!? Why can't I press A+start (or any button combination) to immediately continue with the same character?
Not only is Seth cheap, he's pretty lame. A blue ice dude with a spinning ying-yang symbol for a stomach? Really? that's the best you can do? and that stupid attack when he sucks you into his stomach? that is so aggravating! not only does it take way to long, but it's also just foolish. In fact I don't really care for how long it takes for a lot of the special attacks to occur. Cut down the animation! I know you want to make a pretty game but Jesus speed it up a little.
edit: also, one time I was in the park. I saw two men sitting on a bench. They moved closer, one put his arm around the other, then leaned together and shared a kiss. That was the gayest thing I'd ever experienced, at least until I heard the SF IV intro theme.
ubersaurus
02-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Since SFIV has me on a fighting game kick, does DP have a fighting game list anywhere (like the RPG lists Daria has up)?
I've seen one over on shoryuken.com; it's pretty long though. Any particular system?
Edit: Seth on Easiest, set to 1 round, 30 seconds, is a lot easier. It comes down to hitting him more than he hits you, because all his big damage attacks seem to take a little bit to come out-thus screwing him over for any last second damage attempts.
Vinnysdad
02-19-2009, 07:23 PM
I didnt think Seth was cheap or a hard to beat boss. I played last night and ran through the list including Seth without having to continue. I just used the Shoryuken (is that what its called?) uppercut and the Ultra combo.
XYXZYZ
02-19-2009, 07:27 PM
I didnt think Seth was cheap or a hard to beat boss. I played last night and ran through the list including Seth without having to continue. I just used the Shoryuken (is that what its called?) uppercut and the Ultra combo.
On what difficulty, and can you do it with anyone else?
Bojay1997
02-19-2009, 07:29 PM
I'm sure they did not mention it because EX did not sell gangbusters, and they want to keep comparisons out of the way, but believe me, it's the EX engine. I'm not even sure if they own the rights to all those characters that ARIKA did for them, so who knows....
Anyone who has played ST and 3s extensively can not say this game is anything close to those two games.....not even close...
Sure, and the home versions of EX were on consoles that couldn't compete with the power of the ZN board which was a Playstation with tons more memory. Even assuming SFIV uses the EX engine or was inspired by it, I think it's a tremendous improvement over it and everyone I know who loves Street Fighter thinks IV is a brilliant game.
Wolfrider31
02-19-2009, 07:58 PM
I've seen one over on shoryuken.com; it's pretty long though. Any particular system?
Edit: Seth on Easiest, set to 1 round, 30 seconds, is a lot easier. It comes down to hitting him more than he hits you, because all his big damage attacks seem to take a little bit to come out-thus screwing him over for any last second damage attempts.
PS2 - Current Gen mostly (although a more extensive list would be welcome). I checked Shoryuken but it doesn't appear to be searchable.
There's a list on Wikipedia but I'm not sure how extensive it is.
Vinnysdad
02-19-2009, 08:20 PM
On what difficulty, and can you do it with anyone else?
Did it on medium so that I could get the Save Your Quarters and Arcade Rat achievements. Havent tried with anyone else yet because I have just been playing the challenge modes right now.
Im not trying to say im great or even good but I just wondered why people were saying Seth was hard and cheap on easy difficulty.
Arcade_Ness
02-19-2009, 09:04 PM
It's all about luck for me with beating Seth. Sometimes I can cheese him with throws, one after the other. It is so satsifying beating him with a ultra move ex: Cammy and Sakura to win a match. I'm looking forward to the DLC in the coming weeks.
Damaramu
02-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Did anyone here get the Collector's Edition? How's the bonus stuff? I snagged one for $68 at Deepdiscountdvd's website. Just waiting for it to arrive...
c0ldb33r
02-19-2009, 10:23 PM
Did anyone here get the Collector's Edition? How's the bonus stuff? I snagged one for $68 at Deepdiscountdvd's website. Just waiting for it to arrive...
I got the 360 CE version. I haven't watched the movie, I imagine it's crap. I got the 5 extra outfits, but they're all for male characters, so I really couldn't care less. It came with a soundtrack CD - did this come with the regular version? I dig the game music so I think that's kind of neat. I'll rip it to my zune.
For me, the little C. Viper figure made it worth the price of admission. I get a kick out of stuff like that. :)
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/th_038.jpg (http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/?action=view¤t=038.jpg)
Daft Punk
02-19-2009, 10:38 PM
That was the gayest thing I'd ever experienced, at least until I heard the SF IV intro theme.
I agree, plus it just loops over and over again. I also never liked the announcers.
I turned down the music since I don't like most of it on this one.
norkusa
02-19-2009, 10:50 PM
Did anyone here get the Collector's Edition? How's the bonus stuff? I snagged one for $68 at Deepdiscountdvd's website. Just waiting for it to arrive...
I was going to order one of those but then I read on CAG how DD oversold the preorders and everyone is on backorder now.
Did yours ship out yet? If so, when did you order?
c0ldb33r
02-19-2009, 11:55 PM
I don't know how long it's taken, but I've unlocked Akuma. Next up is Gouken :D
G-Boobie
02-20-2009, 06:42 AM
- Really wish they made larger online lobbies. One-on-one gets old after a while and it takes a while to set up for another player. I also wish there was some sort of quick option to join someone on your friend's list who has the REQ mode on, as system menu Join Session doesn't really help.
There's a new lobby system coming with the free 'Championship' update. I have no idea when it hits, but there you go.
- What the hell happened to Fei Long?
I'm not sure what you mean. Other than his ankle kick thing, he's still pretty much Fei Long.
Damaramu
02-20-2009, 07:30 AM
I was going to order one of those but then I read on CAG how DD oversold the preorders and everyone is on backorder now.
Did yours ship out yet? If so, when did you order?
Ah, I just read one of the big DD threads at CAG...looks like I was one of unlucky ones. I promptly cancelled my order. It's a shame, cause I was locked in at Amazon for one.
Looks like I'm gonna have to find a CE locally. The hunt is on! :evil:
Oobgarm
02-20-2009, 07:36 AM
Give Best Buy a look. My store still had three of these yesterday for 360.
sidnotcrazy
02-20-2009, 07:39 AM
Did anyone here get the Collector's Edition? How's the bonus stuff? I snagged one for $68 at Deepdiscountdvd's website. Just waiting for it to arrive...
I got the PS3 collectors edition, and its awesome. Came with a neat little Ryu figurine, anime (which I haven't watched), and the super cheesed out soundtrack. It also came with a prima mini guide for the new characters only. Plus the new costumess.
Honestly, I have just spent all my free time playing SF4 in arcade/online modes. I really love it. I know I will watch the anime movie sometime. Most likely when my fever pitch for the title dies down to a roar.
poloplayr
02-20-2009, 09:57 AM
Just got home, installed it on my PS3 and finished Medium with Ryu.
First time playing SF IV and I must say I LOVE it...but having said that I can only agree with everyone else who have vented their frustration with Seth. SUCH a cheap shot boss, he can literally render you useless for a few seconds when he pulls you in and halves your energy with his insane moves.
Still, going to be fun trying this out online now.
Add me if you want to play and like me are not on a super duper professional level (yet):
SloaneRangerSW1
poloplayr
02-20-2009, 11:00 AM
Seems like the bastards finally (too late?) released Super SF II Turbo HD Remix in Europe. Just downloading it off the PSN Store now.
norkusa
02-20-2009, 11:25 AM
Anybody get the guide and is it worth the $20? I don't normally buy strategy guides, but the Anniversary Collection one was great and I think I'd get more use out it than buying the CE that comes with a bunch of stuff I'll never touch anyway.
heybtbm
02-20-2009, 12:56 PM
Anybody get the guide and is it worth the $20? I don't normally buy strategy guides, but the Anniversary Collection one was great and I think I'd get more use out it than buying the CE that comes with a bunch of stuff I'll never touch anyway.
The SF Anniversary guide came with the SFIII: 3rd Strike soundtrack CD. Nothing that cool this time.
I bought the SFIV guide. It's worth the $20 IMO. I usually don't pick up guides right away, but when it comes to fighting games...I'm lost without a proper explanation of the moves. The last guide I bought immediately with the game was for PS2 SF Alpha Anthology.
The SFIV guide is similar to most fighting game guides, in that it lists each move with corresponding pictures. I would think most of this information is available (or will be soon) on GameFAQs if you want to save $20.
c0ldb33r
02-20-2009, 04:30 PM
The SFIV guide is similar to most fighting game guides, in that it lists each move with corresponding pictures. I would think most of this information is available (or will be soon) on GameFAQs if you want to save $20.
Or just pause and look at the move list, but there are no pictures. I can't figure out how to do Akuma's ultra combo to save my life.
By the way, I found this image online - this isn't real is it? It's something fake right?
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/c0ldb33r/Hsf2zxshcfegmuccttlb.gif
poloplayr
02-20-2009, 04:41 PM
Anybody get the guide and is it worth the $20? I don't normally buy strategy guides, but the Anniversary Collection one was great and I think I'd get more use out it than buying the CE that comes with a bunch of stuff I'll never touch anyway.
Have a look at this first:
http://gootecks.com/the-3rd-strike-players-guide-to-street-fighter-4-by-gootecks/
CosmicMonkey
02-20-2009, 05:41 PM
If anyone cares about the Euro CE, here's mine:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5852/img0063uh6.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/391/img0066cp6.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2672/img0068td3.jpg
Not pictured is The Ties that Bind on Blu-Ray. It just comes loose in a clear wallet, which I was rather unimpressed with.
ubersaurus
02-20-2009, 06:02 PM
Akuma's ultra is jab-jab-back on the stick/pad-short kick-fierce punch. It has to be input kinda fast; I usually screw it up, despite having no problem doing the normal super in the game (or any other).
c0ldb33r
02-20-2009, 06:47 PM
So who's the cheapest character to play online against?
I vote Zangief.
Also, the european CE - you get both figures? very cool! How did north american get the shaft on that? why do we only get one?
finally, how do you unlock Gouken? I unlocked Akuma, beat Arcade with him, then beat arcade mode again with Ryu and got at least 5 perfects and ultras, gouken didn't appear.
Here is me trying to play online:
Unable to join because the game is already full Search again? YES
Unable to join game. Search again? YES
Unable to join game. Search again? YES
Unable to join because the game is already full Search again? YES
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Vinnysdad
02-20-2009, 07:31 PM
So who's the cheapest character to play online against?
I vote Zangief.
Also, the european CE - you get both figures? very cool! How did north american get the shaft on that? why do we only get one?
finally, how do you unlock Gouken? I unlocked Akuma, beat Arcade with him, then beat arcade mode again with Ryu and got at least 5 perfects and ultras, gouken didn't appear.
Here is me trying to play online:
Unable to join because the game is already full Search again? YES
Unable to join game. Search again? YES
Unable to join game. Search again? YES
Unable to join because the game is already full Search again? YES
Unable to join because the game is already full Search again? YES
Thats how my online experience was last night. Took me almost half an hour to finally join a match. Also the tiny text in the game is giving me a headache.
Overbite
02-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Protip: create matches yourself. Always works!
I thought I was decent at this game but after 20+ straight losses playing as Cammy I think I need to get better :(
Nirvana
02-21-2009, 12:09 AM
I entered an unofficial tournament at Gamecrazy today. I finished 3rd. Kinda lame because I didn't win anything, but everyone was so surprised to see me dominate with Cammy. Almost everyone was Ken.
Damaramu
02-21-2009, 02:52 AM
Give Best Buy a look. My store still had three of these yesterday for 360.
And that I did tonight! They had 2 CE's left and 1 360 control pad left (Chun Li, which was the one I wanted!). So, snagged one of the CE's and the Chun Li controller.
Gotta say, the controller surprised me! There is a bit of stiffness when trying to do dragon punch motions...but I can get them out alright. Though I gotta say, I wish the d-pad wasn't so plastic-y. I wish it had the same rubber texture that the underside of the controller has.
Arcade_Ness
02-21-2009, 03:51 AM
Protip: create matches yourself. Always works!
I thought I was decent at this game but after 20+ straight losses playing as Cammy I think I need to get better :(
For me it was 30+ straight losses >.< Granted I had a few close matches, that I should've won, but didn't get that last hit or two in. I need to be able to pull off her jumping dive kick and hooligan combo, if I attend to main her. I will say her EX Backfist and EX Cannon Kick are lovely.
I found using Sakura to be fun, and I got my first victory with her. My overall online experience has been positive. I should try using custom matches, to speed up the process and ease my fustration in finding a match. I did find some cool people who let me fight them in several matches, even though I was on a mad losing streak. While there are those cheap sobs, like one guy who kept spamming Ken's shoryuken. Also why are there so many shotos/Ryus/Kens? lol
G-Boobie
02-21-2009, 06:41 AM
This is a plea to fellow PS3 owners: please please please install the game to your hard drive. It's a little more than 2 gigs, takes five minutes, and it completely obliterates the load times. Online seems to work much better too, which is, you know, good.
Daft Punk
02-21-2009, 08:03 AM
w3rd on installing it. I did mine a few days ago and it's a huge difference.
I also figured seth's cheap ass out and was able to beat him with sagat with a 1 round perfect.
I been doing good online, over 50 won battles so far . My battle points are up to about 1400 right now. Long way to go but at least im in the 9000's for rank :P . I challenge all comers , I will tiger knee you badly especially if you are ryu or ken ;) .
Daft Punk
02-21-2009, 08:06 AM
Also why are there so many shotos/Ryus/Kens? lol
It seems to me when ever it gets about 6 eastern or so everone that challenges me while im playing arcade mode picks ryu or ken.
about 90% of the time they also try and start the match jumping toward me. Thats when I just keep high kicking them with sagat every time they jump in. If you jump for them they will almost always do a uppercut.
G-Boobie
02-21-2009, 08:22 AM
It seems to me when ever it gets about 6 eastern or so everone that challenges me while im playing arcade mode picks ryu or ken.
We call the ken/ryu/Akuma/Sakura spammers "Shoto Protos".
about 90% of the time they also try and start the match jumping toward me. Thats when I just keep high kicking them with sagat every time they jump in. If you jump for them they will almost always do a uppercut.
They'll learn. Or, alternately, They'll rage-quit and send you hate mail. Either way, you win!
I love it when a new, big-time fighting game hits. More people playing online, and eventually more long-term fans of the genre. Thanks Capcom!
c0ldb33r
02-21-2009, 09:45 AM
Another plea for installing the game to HDD, but this is a plea to 360 owners. Please install it to the HDD, it speeds up level loads. Unlike the PS3, the network works great either way, I just hate waiting an extra few seconds because my opponent has to load his levels from the disc.
Damaramu
02-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Oh man, I LOVE this game! Money well spent! Although, I was expecting a little more from the guide "book" they included! Sort of reminded me of those little comics that came with He-Man action figures back in the day! Ditto for the Crimson Viper figure. She's fugly...and pretty poorly painted. :(
Additionally: My Ties That Bind disc was in my game case...and the soundtrack was in the Ties That Bind case. Just thought it was odd.
So far so good with the SFIV controller. I've have ZERO problems with it outside of SSFIIHDR. I tried the controller with SFII Turbo...worked perfectly. No issues with shoryukens at all.
And finally, I'd like to say this: FU ABEL!! Damn, the computer loves spamming that move where he grabs, spins you around and tosses you!! Just you wait until I unlock Sakura you bastich! Haha!!
VACRMH
02-21-2009, 12:13 PM
Oh man, I LOVE this game! Money well spent! Although, I was expecting a little more from the guide "book" they included! Sort of reminded me of those little comics that came with He-Man action figures back in the day! Ditto for the Crimson Viper figure. She's fugly...and pretty poorly painted. :(
Additionally: My Ties That Bind disc was in my game case...and the soundtrack was in the Ties That Bind case. Just thought it was odd.
So far so good with the SFIV controller. I've have ZERO problems with it outside of SSFIIHDR. I tried the controller with SFII Turbo...worked perfectly. No issues with shoryukens at all.
And finally, I'd like to say this: FU ABEL!! Damn, the computer loves spamming that move where he grabs, spins you around and tosses you!! Just you wait until I unlock Sakura you bastich! Haha!!
Agreed on Abel. I beat Seth on my 3rd try but Abel drives me nuts.
Another odd thing about the CE for the 360 is that on the card for the costume download, it mentions the Playstation Network once.
So far, I'm enjoying the game. But for the life of me can't get past the trial for C. Viper that's a Focus Attack to EX Electric Punch whatever. Just doesn't seem to be enough time to link it.
Lothars
02-21-2009, 01:27 PM
Give Best Buy a look. My store still had three of these yesterday for 360.
That's better than my Bestbuy, they screwed me over because I got there at opening and staff had taken all the street fighters for themselves, I still managed to get myself a copy of the collectors but man I was pissed.
Famidrive-16
02-21-2009, 03:27 PM
I entered an unofficial tournament at Gamecrazy today. I finished 3rd. Kinda lame because I didn't win anything, but everyone was so surprised to see me dominate with Cammy. Almost everyone was Ken.
They're letting you play Cammy? I heard unlocked characters wouldn't be there.
Ummm I'm going to one today, wish me luck.
heybtbm
02-21-2009, 08:11 PM
Protip: create matches yourself. Always works!
Exactly. It took me about 2 minutes of trying to get into existing matches to figure it out.
c0ldb33r
02-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Protip: create matches yourself. Always works!
Or turn invite on and try to play arcade mode.
VACRMH
02-21-2009, 09:44 PM
Or turn invite on and try to play arcade mode.
That's what I've been doing, and half the time my arcade match doesn't even begin by the time I get an invite.
Nirvana
02-22-2009, 02:16 AM
They're letting you play Cammy? I heard unlocked characters wouldn't be there.
Ummm I'm going to one today, wish me luck.
It was an unofficial tournament at Gamecrazy, not the official one at Gamestop.
Therealqtip
02-22-2009, 10:50 AM
If you were to find a Street Fighter 4:CE at the stores how much would it cost? Like 70 or 80? on Ebay it's like 130...my local game crazy has 2.
Nate Nanjo
02-22-2009, 08:33 PM
I like the Collectors Edition and the game so money well spent.
I came to the conclusion that Seth is one of the cheapest bosses I've ever fought, I've beaten him on very hard with Vega, but trying to beat him on very easy with any other character I get owned 3 or 4 times before beating him.
Apparently I'm in a small group of Vega users.
ProgrammingAce
02-22-2009, 11:00 PM
Cheap bosses are enough to convince me not to ever buy this game. Generally, i don't like throwing my controller through a wall. I'll take difficult, ninja gaiden is awesome, but cheap? Pass.
VACRMH
02-22-2009, 11:36 PM
Cheap bosses are enough to convince me not to ever buy this game. Generally, i don't like throwing my controller through a wall. I'll take difficult, ninja gaiden is awesome, but cheap? Pass.
He's really not all that bad.
People need to fight some SNK bosses, and then we'll talk.
Bojay1997
02-22-2009, 11:45 PM
If you were to find a Street Fighter 4:CE at the stores how much would it cost? Like 70 or 80? on Ebay it's like 130...my local game crazy has 2.
If you look at the Ebay auctions in the last few days, the price has dropped to just slightly above MSRP on the auctions that have actually been won. This isn't exactly a rare CE since it was stocked by lots of major retailers. The PS3 version seems to command a slightly higher price, but that's probably because the demand for that version was higher than Capcom had anticipated since I think they did the usual ratio of 35-40% PS3 and the rest 360 based on relative market share for each console.
Damaramu
02-22-2009, 11:46 PM
Seth is cheap if you try to actually fight him. I found it's easiest to find the one move he's weak against and spam the hell out if it. That's how I win my matches against him, giving him a dose of his own cheapass medicine.
Wolfrider31
02-23-2009, 12:55 PM
Amen. Fighting against Seth is infuriating. Or at least, with Dan it is. I went through a good dozen or so matches before I gave up last night. I should probably just switch it to a weaker difficulty level but my pride won't let me. He's still pretty poorly designed and I'm thinking a rebalancing is in order vis a vis a patch.
Also, and it could just be because I've played VF for about 5 years, but the throw logic in this game sucks. It seems like a throw will connect in the most ridiculous of circumstances. Immediately after you hit a character, while in the middle of a move, etc. I've had numerous instances of having a character perform a move, me dodge and leap in for a counter attack and then, WHILE THE OPPONENT'S MOVE IS STILL ANIMATING, be thrown. Yeah, yeah canceling and that, but it smacks of illogical design.