So who picked up the psp Go today? Thoughts? [Archive] - Page 2

Kid Ice

10-04-2009, 09:42 PM

To be fair, reviewers really should run what they're reviewing through the gauntlet.

Agreed. But run it through the biggest challenge first? Why not charge it fully, do the update, d/l a little game, play the little game to get a feel for the system, and then move on to the big dog?

Why can't he say "I ran into numerous problems downloading Gran Turismo directly to the machine. If you're not planning on d/ling through a PS3 or PC, you should really think twice about purchasing the system."

Willful ignorance:

-I didn't know I had to fully charge the system before set up.

-I didn't know walking around with the system would complicate the download of the largest existing file.

-I didn't know I'd only get 14 gigs of usable space.

-I didn't know there were better ways to d/l this game.

-I didn't know I wouldn't be able to play a game while software is downloading.

You mean to tell me an Ars Technica reviewer was surprised by any of this? I'm not saying they're not shortcomings, they are, but every device like this has its share of eccentricities to be worked around. But apparently these things make the device the electronic equivalent of a facepalm. Odd.

scooterb23

10-04-2009, 09:58 PM

For a system called "Go" there are sure a lot of things you have to stop using it to do...

cityside75

10-04-2009, 10:15 PM

The only time you can't do anything at all with the 360 (other than when its ded, I went there, move on)

I LOL'd

Does it make sense to anyone? If I *wanted* to give the system a poor review I would do exactly what he did...put it through a challenging process and complain when it doesn't work.

Heck yes it makes sense. I do, on occasion, walk around with my PSP while connected wirelessly. The reviewer would be doing people like me a disservice by not reporting if there were problems, especially considering how dependent this thing is on a good connection to the internet (remember, there's no UMD drive! ;)). As stated earlier, it's the reviewers' *job* to put these things through their paces.

maxlords

10-04-2009, 10:35 PM

I'll be honest...the ability to sync the Go with PS3 controllers and then hook it up to my HDTV ALMOST makes me want one by itself.

If I can do that...and DL ISOs of games I already OWN and run em on CFW, I'll buy one for SURE.

kupomogli

10-04-2009, 10:50 PM

Here's a PSP Go unboxing. Video was posted September 15, so before Ars review was put up. I remembered it was linked on QJ.net and went and looked for it.

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/driving/motorstormarticedge/video/6217171/psp-go-video-unboxing

During this review they downloaded Motorstorm Arctic Edge, although they did cut it and then back on, stating that at 500mb it took about 15 minutes. Didn't ever see any bitching or anything though, so download must have went fine.

Also. Isn't Ars an electronics site? In part of the review they're bitching about how the PSP Go has 14GB of available space when starting the system. This is the same with any type of memory format. So they're going to start bitching about this when it's common knowledge?

While reading that review, I expected Ars just say you could buy a PSP3000 and a 16gb Memory Stick Pro Duo for under $250, downgrade your system, and then download either iso or cso files. How cheap would the PSP be compared to the PSP Go then? I think Sony killed the reviewers mother and father then pissed on their graves, that's got to be the reason for such a biased review.

Icarus Moonsight

10-05-2009, 12:10 AM

I have only seen well informed people charge their handheld units fully prior to first use. It's a willful ignorance (on Ars part) because, frankly, a majority of people are either willfully or unaware that they are ignorant there. It's an act of integrity on the reviewers part, believe it or not.

I've seen little kids rip into GBA boxes, pop out a cart and cram it in and they are playing a game even before mom and them get out to the car... Let alone wait, get home (stareing at the boxes of fun...) plug it in, do something else, waiting a few hours for a charge cycle and comming back only then to play...

Sometimes us big kids forget what we were like as little ones. :p

meancode

10-05-2009, 04:34 AM

I guess no one bought a PSP in 2005 when it first launched? Or maybe you don't remember, but it cost $250 MSRP and that is what I paid for it. Sure, it came with a movie and a softcase, but it still cost the same exact $250 that the Go costs today.

Icarus Moonsight

10-05-2009, 05:45 AM

So four years and a media accessibility downgrade later... Not much change. That's a piece of ungoodness I haven't considered.

Oobgarm

10-05-2009, 07:05 AM

Traded in some games to score a ceramic white one yesterday.

I think the fact that Sony has basically abandoned UMDs really sucks, (yes I know that future games are coming out on physical media but you just know that it's going to play second fiddle to digital) and it's a viable reason for those who already own a PSP to completely pass up the Go.

However, after giving the system a good once-over, I see that it's actually got some potential. The ability to tether a PS3 DualShock 3 to it and output to the TV really makes that initial $250 easier to take. Not to mention the huge amount of internal memory. And since it's got a memory card slot, I can supplement that with the card I already have for my PSP1000. And yeah it looks nice and all and has improved controls and a better display.

I won't lie, I bought it so I could have a launch model for when CFW and Homebrew are ready to go. It's acting as an MP3 player at the moment. If I have a burning need to play games RIGHT NOW, I'll just use my old model.

c0ldb33r

10-05-2009, 08:38 AM

I won't lie, I bought it so I could have a launch model for when CFW and Homebrew are ready to go.
This is what I'm thinking of doing. Can you do anything with it without it asking to update the firmware from the internet?

Oobgarm

10-05-2009, 08:52 AM

Play the demo of Patapon 2, browse the net, watch imported video and listen to music. I'm cool with it being an MP3 player until then.:)

RyanMurf

10-05-2009, 11:11 AM

This is what I'm thinking of doing. Can you do anything with it without it asking to update the firmware from the internet?

I really wouldnt worry about upgrading the firmware. When a cfw comes out I doubt that your going to need the original firmware that it shipped with. I mean psp go's are being shipped with an upgraded firmware now anyway. I have already upgraded the firmware and I plan on installing CFW when its released..so yeah I wouldnt worry about it. p.s. and IO thought I would also add in this edit that most of the time when they release the CFW they also release a downgrader with it so for those who did upgrade can roll back.

j_factor

10-05-2009, 01:54 PM

I'll be honest...the ability to sync the Go with PS3 controllers and then hook it up to my HDTV ALMOST makes me want one by itself.

Ditto. I'm crossing my fingers for a PSP 4000 that includes this feature. I won't be holding my breath, though.

I just don't see the point of the PSP Go. The regular PSP can already do what the Go does, except for bluetooth and flipping the screen up. Sure it comes with a good chunk of memory, but you can find a 16GB memory stick for less than the $80 price difference.

Jimid2

10-05-2009, 03:27 PM

Ditto. I'm crossing my fingers for a PSP 4000 that includes this feature. I won't be holding my breath, though.

I just don't see the point of the PSP Go. The regular PSP can already do what the Go does, except for bluetooth and flipping the screen up. Sure it comes with a good chunk of memory, but you can find a 16GB memory stick for less than the $80 price difference.

The point - the ONLY point really, imho - is portability. The PSPgo is a truely PORTABLE system, where the PSP isn't really. at least not so far as I'm concerned... The PSPgo is the new GBA Micro! :love:

Kid Ice

10-05-2009, 08:40 PM

This is what I'm thinking of doing. Can you do anything with it without it asking to update the firmware from the internet?

Sure...it just won't play minis or new releases. Anything older than a couple months should be fine.

Leo_A

10-05-2009, 09:21 PM

I'll be honest...the ability to sync the Go with PS3 controllers and then hook it up to my HDTV ALMOST makes me want one by itself.

Where'd you read that it can sync with PS3 controllers? I've read stuff that sounded more like speculation that syncing PS3 controllers to it might happen due to the bluetooth functionality, but this is the first I've seen that claimed it already had the ability to do it.

Can you really use a PS3 controller with it? How does it work? Do you hook it up via the included cable to a PS3, or is it completely independent and just needs the video out cable?

That changes my opinion of this device greatly, I'm going to have to pick one up if true.

heybtbm

10-05-2009, 09:36 PM

They're going to come out with a 32gb version (or larger) in a few months. Why would anyone buy this thing now? Hasn't anyone been paying attention to the umpteen PS3 hard drives?

Even I'm not going to pick this puny 16gb launch iteration...and I buy every system.

Leo_A

10-05-2009, 09:51 PM

Going by that flawed logic, why would you ever pick one up when you know something better might just be around the next corner?

Also, you have a bad habit of stating your opinions like they're facts. "They're going to come out with a 32gb version (or larger) in a few months" is an opinion since Sony has never stated such a thing. Please word it as such.

Lastly, it has a Memory Stick Micro slot so you can expand it by an additional 16 gigs if you desire. 32 gigs will hold a lot of PSP games.

heybtbm

10-05-2009, 10:18 PM

Also, you have a bad habit of stating your opinions like they're facts.

When I finally get a prediction wrong...I'll tone down the whole "opinion = fact" thing. Until then...

j/k

Leo_A

10-05-2009, 11:07 PM

You're pretty safe with it becoming right. :)

I just wanted to ensure people realized there hasn't been any announcements or even rumors that a PSP Go with additional storage space was imminent.

meancode

10-06-2009, 03:40 AM

Where'd you read that it can sync with PS3 controllers? I've read stuff that sounded more like speculation that syncing PS3 controllers to it might happen due to the bluetooth functionality, but this is the first I've seen that claimed it already had the ability to do it.

Can you really use a PS3 controller with it? How does it work? Do you hook it up via the included cable to a PS3, or is it completely independent and just needs the video out cable?

That changes my opinion of this device greatly, I'm going to have to pick one up if true.

Sync with a DualShock or Sixaxis has been stated in many reviews, and shown in a number of videos by now. It is done wireless via the BT in the PSP Go. You could then also output the video using the AV cables to your TV if you wanted to.

Ed Oscuro

10-06-2009, 04:42 AM

(yes I know that future games are coming out on physical media but you just know that it's going to play second fiddle to digital)
Future games for whatever natural lifespan is left for the PSP, anyway. I think they're worried about killing off sales of the original PSP series and so are holding back from appearing to be committing it to a dead end - nevermind it's pretty much there.

I think Ars is right to mention all the technical issues, people ought to have a clear picture about what they're trading away for the new machine. Some, like needing to charge the battery before use, need to be highlighted by Sony for a "quick start" type sheet, but other than that they really ought not to weight common knowledge issues too heavily.

14GB out of 16GB seems to account for just the base 10 -> base 2 conversion and then maybe a bit of space reserved for system files. A non-system drive 32GB flash / eSATA drive will show up as having 30GB free in Windows, for example. Ars users should be well aware of this. Honestly, though, it's about damn time that drive and media makers standardized along with the rest of the world; they already lost a lawsuit over this.

Wolfrider31

10-06-2009, 04:37 PM

Future games for whatever natural lifespan is left for the PSP, anyway. I think they're worried about killing off sales of the original PSP series and so are holding back from appearing to be committing it to a dead end - nevermind it's pretty much there.

I think Ars is right to mention all the technical issues, people ought to have a clear picture about what they're trading away for the new machine. Some, like needing to charge the battery before use, need to be highlighted by Sony for a "quick start" type sheet, but other than that they really ought not to weight common knowledge issues too heavily.

14GB out of 16GB seems to account for just the base 10 -> base 2 conversion and then maybe a bit of space reserved for system files. A non-system drive 32GB flash / eSATA drive will show up as having 30GB free in Windows, for example. Ars users should be well aware of this. Honestly, though, it's about damn time that drive and media makers standardized along with the rest of the world; they already lost a lawsuit over this.

One of the issues with Ars article that bothered me was the fact that most of the technical issues they cited are present in all PSP interations. Hating the Go seems to be all the rage now so I guess I'm not surprised. Unless they attacked the previous models for the same thing.

The only real reason to nail the PSP is the lack of the UMD drive and/or any way to transfer games. And I guess the price as well. The former is clearly a legal issue (and given a relatively strong understanding of licensing rights and IP I can safely say there's very little Sony could have done). That deserves to be called out for sure, but making out like it's Sony's fault and they're trying to screw over fans is just ignorant.

The price - well there you have it. It's too expensive. I bought it anyway. *Shrugs*

sonoranreptile

10-06-2009, 06:58 PM

I just picked up a PSP Go today and I am actually impressed with it. I wasn't expecting much, but it really is a very cool system. I am not sure why people are complaining about the price. The PSP 1001 and the iPod Touch were the exact price when they came out. I own both of them as well and am pretty sure I am not the only one. I couldn't care less about noisy UMD games anymore I have a ton of games that I downloaded for my PS3 that I am currently transferring over to the Go. The only problems I have are the USB cable not being the standard "Sony" type, and no pro duo compatibility.

c0ldb33r

10-06-2009, 07:50 PM

The only problems I have are the USB cable not being the standard "Sony" type, and no pro duo compatibility.
standard "Sony" type usb cable? what do you mean?

Hasn't Sony always just used a standard mini-usb?

Leo_A

10-06-2009, 08:07 PM

He just didn't realize a USB cable with a mini USB connector at one end was used outside of Sony. Simple as that. What did you think he meant?

I haven't fooled around much with digital cameras and just own the cables due to my PSP's and PS3. I could see easily thinking it was something proprietary to Sony too. If I didn't have a mp3 player that used the same style of cable, I'd probably of thought it too.

PapaStu

10-06-2009, 08:42 PM

standard "Sony" type usb cable? what do you mean?

Hasn't Sony always just used a standard mini-usb?

He just didn't realize a USB cable with a mini USB connector at one end was used outside of Sony. Simple as that. What did you think he meant?

I haven't fooled around much with digital cameras and just own the cables due to my PSP's and PS3. I could see easily thinking it was something proprietary to Sony too. If I didn't have a mp3 player that used the same style of cable, I'd probably of thought it too.

Unfortunately thats not true. The PSPgo has its own propietary cable.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B002EQE4EQ/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=468642&s=videogames

sonoranreptile

10-06-2009, 09:09 PM

standard "Sony" type usb cable? what do you mean?

Hasn't Sony always just used a standard mini-usb?

Was it that difficult to figure out? Yes, the USB cable (mini) that sony has used for the past 6+ years.... I do realize that other companies use mini-USB (my G1 phone for example), but that seemed to be their (Sony's) STANDARD...... I was just stating that it was stupid of them to change......

Frankie_Says_Relax

10-06-2009, 09:14 PM

Does it have an AC adapter, or does it charge fully through the USB?

sonoranreptile

10-06-2009, 09:55 PM

It has an AC adapter that uses the USB cable.....

Kid Ice

10-06-2009, 09:55 PM

Does it have an AC adapter, or does it charge fully through the USB?

There is an adapter which the Go plugs into via usb. It's actually pretty cool, but naturally Ars Technica makes it sound like this huge headache.

btw Papa Stu I think you misread Leo Ames' comment, he was referring to the cable on the original PSP in that quote.

GuyinGA

10-06-2009, 09:58 PM

I really want to like the PSPGo and would want to get it.

Except the price is preventing me from pursuing it. Plus I already got a PSP which is fine by me thanks.

The only reason why I see Sony releasing this is to go after the pirates/homebrew people and saying "Ha! Now try to hack it!"

What I think Sony should have tried to do is offer cellular/mobile phone service on the PSPGo. I actually thought the system was a PSP with cell phone capabilities. Seroiusly.

Plus, have PSN have a ton of apps that Apple wouldn't use/touch for free. Let people program their own games and upload them to share. Say "Why the heck not?" to obscure and import PS1 games, not to mention Dreamcast, TurboGrafx CD & Saturn games. Have the PSPGo be the GBA/DS to Wii/Gamecube. Have bluetooth connectivity to PS3 and let you play without wires.

Still, 16GB on a portable is pretty amazing. I honestly think PSPGo is the PS3 of handhelds. It's time will come.

sonoranreptile

10-06-2009, 10:55 PM

Plus, have PSN have a ton of apps that Apple wouldn't use/touch for free. Let people program their own games and upload them to share. Say "Why the heck not?" to obscure and import PS1 games, not to mention Dreamcast, TurboGrafx CD & Saturn games. Have the PSPGo be the GBA/DS to Wii/Gamecube. Have bluetooth connectivity to PS3 and let you play without wires.

Still, 16GB on a portable is pretty amazing. I honestly think PSPGo is the PS3 of handhelds. It's time will come.

I totally agree. Get the "oddball" systems online and be able to download some of those games. The Wii already has some Turbo Grafx games in their Virtual console selection, but it would be awesome to take Panzer Dragoon Saga and Shining Force 3 on the road.....

Leo_A

10-06-2009, 11:10 PM

Unfortunately thats not true. The PSPgo has its own propietary cable.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B002EQE4EQ/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=468642&s=videogames

As noted by a kind poster above that already tried to clarify it, I know. That's why the original poster put up the message he did that complained about Sony going away from their previous style of cable, which was a standard USB cable with a mini connector at one end, to a proprietary cable original to the PSP Go. My message was just about standard USB cables with a mini connector.

I'm not going to be able to resist this portable I think. I mostly own a PSP because there are games on there I want to play, not because it's portable. My portables rarely leave the room my consoles do, I play them at home.

While there is no reason to rebuy games that I bought just because they're portable (Such as Activision Hits (Couldn't resist the thought of basically having a nearly full Activision collection and 2600 in the palm of my hands), or being fascinated by seeing something like Outrun 2006 or GTA running on such a small thing. Especially when I own console counterparts of all this stuff too.

But for the games I've purchased or want just so I can play them rather than because they're portable, such as Ace Combat, the chance to leave behind the PSP's analog nub and basically turn a PSP into a console through using the video cable and a nice PS3 controller will be too much to resist.

I've avoided many 3d games on the PSP that I wanted to play just because of that horrid analog nub. Now, I don't have to be constrained by the poor controls of the PSP and can basically rebuy content I want to play on the Go and turn it into a console.

Wonder if there will be any nice stands for just such a purpose that will hold the unit and protect the screen, while powering it and allowing you to output video at the same time.

Arcade_Ness

10-07-2009, 02:52 AM

I got mine yesterday and I'm glad I got it. I've had my PSP-2000 for awhile and just never felt comfortable carrying it around. The PSP Go feels great to carry around and to play(although I was concerned that me having big hands that would pose a problem, but it felt comfortable gripping the PSP Go).

I picked up a few games such as Prinny, Dead Head Fred, and Justice League Heroes. I'm excited to see what new games crop up on the PSN in the coming weeks.

I've been lurking in this thread and observing other people discuss the Go, and after much deliberation I decided to take the plunge. I only have a handful of UMD games, so it doesn't hurt me that much by not having them transfer over.

Kid Ice

10-07-2009, 06:55 AM

Wonder if there will be any nice stands for just such a purpose that will hold the unit and protect the screen, while powering it and allowing you to output video at the same time.

There is one but you have to buy the video cable separately

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?Product_ID=75787

Leo_A

10-07-2009, 08:34 AM

All that is is a stand, pretty useless if you ask me.

What I meant was some sort of stand that not only holds the system, but protects the screen and allows you to simultaneousily power it and output video, if possible.

Basically, something to turn it into a full fledged console without worry you'll get the screen scratched up or the bother of switching between the charging/USB cable and the video output cable everytime it needs to be charged up.

The only reason I want this is for it's bluetooth ability that allows you to utilize PS3 controllers on it, so it would be nice to eliminate the need to fool around with cables and putting it into a case when not in use to protect the screen. I'll stick with my PSP3000 when I want a portable way to play a PSP game.

Icarus Moonsight

10-07-2009, 09:49 AM

A Go docking station, for when you are not going anywhere. Ironically, the only unique use of the system, a consolized handheld. They should call the dock the PSPStay...

kupomogli

10-08-2009, 04:07 PM

Five new PSP games getting put on the store. I thought at one point in time SFA3 Max was already up there. Guess not. Atleast there's three more good games going up there(SFA3 Max and the Mega Man games -- never played the Puzzle World game.)

October 8: Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Dark Tower
October 15: Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
October 22: Capcom Puzzle World
October 29: Maverick Hunter X
November 5: Megaman Powered Up

Frankie_Says_Relax

10-11-2009, 11:16 AM

After carefully reviewing my PSP-compatible PSN store purchases over the course of the past year or so (I had about 20 Playstation 1 and PSP games available for download) I decided that I had enough software to make the Go a worthy addition to my gaming collection at the present time.

No need to reiterate all the positives that actual owners have detailed, I'll instead add a few thoughts that have been left out.

- Stereo Bluetooh Headset compatibility. The new bluetooth compatibility on the Go allows you to pair it up with bluetooth headsets. I happen to have an awesome set of Kenisngton bluetooth Stereo wrap-around can-style headset with play/pause/skip/volume controls on the cans.

Works perfectly with the Go, making both the gaming (they work great during games) and music player capabilities of the PSP suddenly MUCH more attractive than any previous iteration of the system. A small pocket/bag-footprint system with no headphone cord and full compatibility with the play/skip/volume features (and importantly without having to stick some silly bluetooth dongle into your iPod or music player).

With 14 out-of-box gigs of on-board space, there's plenty of room for both a healthy amount of music AND games on there. PSP's of the past may have been very competent music players, but I can actually legitimately see myself using the Go as one (if I don't feel like draining the shit out of my Android phone battery to play music over bluetooth) also not a bad deal that the PSP Go has free on-board Shoutcast and Icecast internet radio players on the XMB, if I'm in a wi-fi zone at home or work there's some great stations on both.

The headset also worked great with Skype and the people kicking my ass in Syphon Filter Combat Ops acknowledged that they could hear me as they racked up kills on me.

I do find it a bit odd that the "water droplets" music visualizer is missing from the PSP Go's music player ... wonder what the deal is with that.

As far as gripes go, the only one I have is the slow download speed of games from the PSN store when using the PSP directly in Wi-Fi. It seems like the process was much faster on a standard PSP ... this might have something to do with taxed network speeds since the Go launch, I suspect Sony will normalize that in the future.

The best method for downloading and installing games to the PSP Go is either the Media Go software for PC or a PS3, you'll cut your download and install time down to a fraction of what it takes to do directly over Wi-Fi on the system. Anybody who has an at-home Wi-Fi option likely has a decent PC, so the Media Go software (which is also a very nice iTunes style music/video/picture manager-transfer software) is the way to.

I'll still be enjoying my 1000 and 2000 series PSPs on a regular basis (same as I enjoy my DS Lite nearly as much as I do my DSi) but like most Go owners that have shared their thoughts, you can color me impressed as well.

portnoyd

10-11-2009, 12:26 PM

Five new PSP games

...New?

Frankie_Says_Relax

10-11-2009, 12:30 PM

...New?

Everything old is new again!

kupomogli

10-11-2009, 07:53 PM

...New?

New to the PSN, yes.

Icarus Moonsight

10-12-2009, 12:39 AM

I got hands on time with a buds Go recently. Just a few minutes, he didn't even have any games for it yet... The d-pad and buttons I would consider an improvement over the UMD-able models. The thumbstick, while tighter and easier to hit areas between center-neutral and wide open, has some issues. It's recessed into the face of the unit. Your thumb is going to rub against the outer beveled egde, a lot. And it's smaller in scale than the other PSP analogs. I didn't find placement to be that bad or uncomfortable... Remember, only had it for a few minutes, flipping through the menu bar. It's tiny on the whole. Great for transport, shit for hand holding comfort. I had an urge to put it down because it felt odd to hold. And I don't even have huge hands or anything. I'll have to try it in action for the full effect, but I can tell that the analog and slide have a high probability to be problematic.

That's my 2 coppers worth. :)

MarioMania

10-14-2009, 01:04 AM

how's the Sales for the PSPgo..

Is it failing??

RyanMurf

10-14-2009, 12:38 PM

http://pspgohacks.com/trying-to-fit-a-umd-in-a-psp-go/

Funny video(Damn Nintendo fan boys)

GarrettCRW

10-14-2009, 12:44 PM

http://pspgohacks.com/trying-to-fit-a-umd-in-a-psp-go/

Funny video(Damb Nintendo fan boys)

Is this some crazy new contraction of "dumb" and "damn"?

RyanMurf

10-14-2009, 12:47 PM

Is this some crazy new contraction of "dumb" and "damn"?

Im sorry let me fix that...thats what happens when im in a hurry. okay now....Damn...sorry the little N key and the little B key are rite next to each other. Sorry again professor!!

Frankie_Says_Relax

10-14-2009, 01:13 PM

http://pspgohacks.com/trying-to-fit-a-umd-in-a-psp-go/

Funny video(Damn Nintendo fan boys)

That's Rocco Botte from Mega64.

He's not a "fanboy" ... he picked up a PSP Go and in the 2 most recent Mega64 Podcasts he talked about how he loves it. Like many, he doesn't consider it to be a full-on replacement for a standard PSP, but for those who have the money to spend he calls the PSP Go "the price of convenience".

RyanMurf

10-15-2009, 12:09 PM

I just wish he would have given me that psp so I wouldn't have had to buy one. :(

Frankie_Says_Relax

10-15-2009, 01:14 PM

I just wish he would have given me that psp so I wouldn't have had to buy one. :(

The price of comedy, sometimes involves a smashed PSP.

Flack

02-02-2010, 04:50 PM

Sony thinks the reason the PSP Go has sold so poorly is because we all missed the announcement ... so they are going to relaunch it.

According to a rumour on consumer-focused games website Gamervision, Sony is planning to re-launch PSPgo.

Citing �someone close to Sony� a PSPgo re-launch could happen �complete with a marketing blitz in hopes to rekindle some sort of excitement over the handheld�.

The site also speculates that a price drop could be among Sony�s plans and that further news could come from GDC in March.

Sony�s PSP retained the top spot on the Japanese hardware chart during the seven days ended January 24, as overall console sales saw yet another week-on-week decline.

A Sony rep told us that it had no comment to offer on this report.

megasdkirby

02-02-2010, 04:52 PM

The unit is still around???

During the Xmas season, only a handful were sold, while a plethora of PS3, Wii's, and X360 where sold.

Sony really are sore loosers...they can't admit defeat.

Rickstilwell1

02-02-2010, 09:07 PM

Maybe they'll get the picture that we want our games to be physical and re-salable

Kid Ice

02-03-2010, 06:40 AM

Still play mine every day. Highly recommended.

I don't think the problem is that Sony are sore "loosers". I guess they believe the reason the system didn't sell was because they didn't launch it properly, which wouldn't be a first for this industry (see also Sega Saturn, Jaguar, 3DO, etc).

As far as the all-digital "problem"...there is already an all-digital platform out there selling a heap of games. If we want our games physical and resalable that would certainly be news to all the developers pounding us with casual downloads.

I just hope with this relaunch we got a ton more of content on the PSN store like we did at the original launch.

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 07:52 AM

I guess they believe the reason the system didn't sell was because they didn't launch it properly, which wouldn't be a first for this industry (see also Sega Saturn, Jaguar, 3DO, etc).

I seriously don't think this was the issue. When it was released, customers at the store (and at GameStop near where I work) knew of it's released, but they refused to buy it because...

As far as the all-digital "problem"...there is already an all-digital platform out there selling a heap of games. If we want our games physical and resalable that would certainly be news to all the developers pounding us with casual downloads.

...of this problem. Digital ONLY downloads. I would say (just throwing a number from my head) maybe 90%-95% of customers who refuse to pick it up or return it is because of the lack of a external media they can buy cheaply, share, and sell afterwards. Many are not keen on using credit cards, and some don't want to buy cards every so often. Several have returned the unit to buy a PSP-3000, because as they say "I can do the same thing there AND more than on the other one (Go)!"

I just hope with this relaunch we got a ton more of content on the PSN store like we did at the original launch.

Though that would be nice, and perhaps it may give it a bit more "umph". I feel it won't do much. Perhaps if they lowered the price of the unit (to a much less asinine price), it will help increase sales.

But I would not count victory.

Icarus Moonsight

02-03-2010, 09:11 AM

Sony, chasing good money after bad since Nov 22nd 2006...

I successfully launched a turd a while ago... Sony, it can be done!

Kid Ice

02-03-2010, 09:57 AM

Sony, chasing good money after bad since Nov 22nd 2006...

I successfully launched a turd a while ago... Sony, it can be done!

I've played an awful lot of good video games on Sony systems in the last few years. What they do with their money doesn't bother me. If you all want to sit around on a message board and yap about corporations making or losing money (something most of you know absolutely zero about), help yourselves. I have gaming to do.

Oobgarm

02-03-2010, 10:23 AM

I really like mine, though I honestly don't use it that much. I have 3 games on it, still running the original firmware just in case something happens with homebrew.

I personally consider it more of an MP3 player at the moment.

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 10:26 AM

I really like mine, though I honestly don't use it that much. I have 3 games on it, still running the original firmware just in case something happens with homebrew.

That thing on Homebrew would be sweet!

Frankie_Says_Relax

02-03-2010, 10:26 AM

...the lack of a external media they can buy cheaply, share, and sell afterwards.

Funny, I've easily "shared" all of the games that I've bought on the PSN for my PSP Go with Lissette on her PSP 1000 via Sony's 1 purchase = download to up to 5 consoles policy.

I've also taken advantage of almost every "sale" that they've had in recent months.

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 10:29 AM

Funny, I've easily "shared" all of the games that I've bought on the PSN for my PSP Go with Lissette on her PSP 1000 via Sony's 1 purchase = download to up to 5 consoles policy.

I think it's now 3 console policy. (at least for PS3)

But still, you can technically share, but you already used two of the three permitted "shares". Meaning that if you have to purchase another PSP in the future, you can only transfer the game one more time. And if something happens after that, or you just get a spare console, you have to purchase the game all over again.

With physical media, you can share the same game with as many consoles/people are you like. If I have 10 PSP systems, I can play them on all ten, and not limit myself to only a few (3 or 5).

Frankie_Says_Relax

02-03-2010, 10:34 AM

I think it's now 3 console policy. (at least for PS3)

But still, you can technically share, but you already used two of the three permitted "shares". Meaning that if you have to purchase another PSP in the future, you can only transfer the game one more time. And if something happens after that, or you just get a spare console, you have to purchase the game all over again.

Ummmmm....I'm completely unaware of any downgrade from five to three for their DLC console allowance.

Can you cite that with a link to some official documentation?

With physical media, you can share the same game with as many consoles/people are you like. If I have 10 PSP systems, I can play them on all ten, and not limit myself to only a few (3 or 5).

Sure, but not simultaneously.

Buy 1 copy of Street Fighter Alpha 3 for $20 at Gamestop and play it on one PSP, buy it from the PSN and download it to 5 of your 10 PSPs so that you can have an in-house tournament!

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 10:38 AM

Ummmmm....I'm completely unaware of any downgrade from five to three for their DLC console allowance.

Can you cite that with a link to some official documentation?

I read it somewhere.

I'm searching, though. I do hope it's still 5...but still...after 5 consoles...

EDIT: So far only found for 5 different consoles. At least, supposedly, I can download the game unlimited times on my current console, which is a plus.

Icarus Moonsight

02-03-2010, 10:49 AM

I've played an awful lot of good video games on Sony systems in the last few years. What they do with their money doesn't bother me. If you all want to sit around on a message board and yap about corporations making or losing money (something most of you know absolutely zero about), help yourselves. I have gaming to do.

The point was lack of marketing / poor launch strategies are not the problem. Obviously, you bought one. I went and got a 2000 before they ran out. Don't regret that decision at all. In fact, I made the right move because the of the 3000 screen issues and the Go is ridiculous. Mind you, I was already invested in some UMDs before I went for a PSP purchase. At this point, they're in a bad spot. The best way to sell the Go right now? Pull the 3000's off the shelves. And then where are you at? Oh well, they'll figure it all out... In three years or so.

Frankie_Says_Relax

02-03-2010, 10:58 AM

I read it somewhere.

I'm searching, though. I do hope it's still 5...but still...after 5 consoles...

EDIT: So far only found for 5 different consoles. At least, supposedly, I can download the game unlimited times on my current console, which is a plus.

Not supposedly, definitely.

This is how it works if you're unclear:

You create a PSN ID. It's completely free, all you need to do is tie it to a valid email address/mailing address.

That PSN ID/account can be "activated' on up to 5 PSPs and 5 PS3s

All consoles which are "activated" under that ID have the right to download and use ANY purchased games, add ons, etc. from that ID's PSN account purchase history.

So, I buy game X on my PS3. I go to your house, add my PSN ID to your PS3, "activate" your system on my list of 5 consoles allowed activated - I download game X on to your PS3 and you can play it as long as I leave my ID on your PS3 and leave that system "activated" on my list of active consoles.

PS3 can have multiple PSN IDs on it, PSP can only have one at a time (though it can be "activated"/"deactivated" multiple times under different accounts with no penalty).

I can find no indication that Sony has changed their policy from 5 to 3 at this time, at least not in the US or for standard tier games. Even the big games like Gran Turismo Prolouge and Warhawk allow for multiple downloads.

Like all other DLC consoles, games can be deleted and re-downloaded over and over again with no re-purchase, and if you do decide to get a "new" PSP or PS3 you can always "deactivate" one of your old ones to allow for that new unit to be "activated".

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 11:31 AM

Hmmm...

Ok so if I have 5 PS3 consoles and all three have the same game, say "UNO". If I purchase a new PS3, I need to purchase "UNO" once again...

...unless I deactivate one of the first PS3 consoles (say the very first one, one that is now damaged for instance), liberating a "free spot", thus I can now install "UNO" on that PS3 without purchasing it again?

Is this correct?

Frankie_Says_Relax

02-03-2010, 11:41 AM

Hmmm...

Ok so if I have 5 PS3 consoles and all five have the same game, say "UNO". If I purchase a new PS3, I need to purchase "UNO" once again...

...unless I deactivate one of the first PS3 consoles (say the very first one, one that is now damaged for instance), liberating a "free spot", thus I can now install "UNO" on that PS3 without purchasing it again?

Is this correct?

Correct!

Also corrected your "head count" of your consoles, you start with five and suddenly have three ... I feel like we're doing a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

megasdkirby

02-03-2010, 11:44 AM

Correct!

Also corrected your "head count" of your consoles, you start with five and suddenly have three ... I feel like we're doing a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

LOL

I missed that one!

I think I have a thing for the number three! LOL

gepeto

02-09-2010, 06:01 PM

Leo_A

02-09-2010, 06:26 PM

I was at gamestop picking up bioshock and they had a white one like brand new still in the box. used for 150.00 Dude says he knew the guy that traded it in an he only had it a little over 2 weeks.

I turned it on and it had

Metal gear solid,Resident evil 2 ,Final fantasy 7, FF8,FF dissadia, Castlevania symphony of the night,Ridge racer,Kill Zone liberation,Rockband and echochrome.

I figure that was too sweet a deal to pass up. It had the box and all the contents.

Question can I transfer any of these to my other psps?

Nope, you can't retrieve the password since it should be hidden on the PSN log in screen. And you can't change the password since it involves resetting it through his email account.

He can't kill your content now, so it might be worth asking that GS clerk for that guys contact information and see if you can't get his password (Who knows, maybe he just had that Go and doesn't have other PSP's or a PS3 to use that PSN account on).

gepeto

02-09-2010, 06:57 PM

Nope, you can't retrieve the password since it should be hidden on the PSN log in screen. And you can't change the password since it involves resetting it through his email account.

He can't kill your content now, so it might be worth asking that GS clerk for that guys contact information and see if you can't get his password (Who knows, maybe he just had that Go and doesn't have other PSP's or a PS3 to use that PSN account on).

Drats thats okay though. Can I save the games to a pc via media disc and reload them sorta like the ipod to the original 1? Sorta like a backup?

For some reason I thought once down loaded via the media go disc you can connect to a pc and copy the whole thing over. Thanks for your help. LOL

Leo_A

02-09-2010, 07:13 PM

gepeto

02-09-2010, 07:27 PM

Are you asking if you can copy them to your PC and then to another PSP? Nope

If you're asking if you can back them up to your PC and put them back on your Go at a later time, I don't see why not, especially if his log-in information remains saved. Why would you want to though? I can't imagine those games come anywhere close to filling up the internal storage space.

What's this media disc you're mentioning? You should be able to access these files just by hooking up your PSP to your PC by USB cable.

I believe I was on sonys website once and there was a ad briefly explaining the media go cd enclosed with the psp go. If I recalled it was like visit the store from your computer download and transfer to the psp. It sounded like a gaming version of Itunes.

I was asking Just as a means of backing up should something get corrupted. I get nervous with memory sticks.
The free memory left is 7 gbs.