Starcraft 2

[ambriglia]

Anyone else been scouring youtube for SC2 beta vids? I have, and I am loving every second of it. Can't wait for the game.

I saw some cool shit, one where a guy rushed someone else with a Plantetary Fortress (upgraded command center that shoots!).

Anyone else pumped as I am?

[b0ub0u]

No need to get to youtube.

Just go to teamliquid.net site and you will find a LOT of live stream of pro/semi-pro playing right now.

[StoneAgeGamer]

My friend is in beta and said he has so far not been very impressed with it. He is a big fan of the original Starcraft. He said it feels more like a graphics upgrade than a complete game upgrade. It is just beta though.

[carlcarlson]

It is just beta though.

I'm pretty sure being in beta means there are some rough edges, not that it's a completely different game than the finished product will be. If your buddy is only seeing fresh graphics now then I would bet he's only going to be seeing fresh graphics when it hits retail.

I didn't make the beta. Oh well, I don't have any free time right now anyway.

[ambriglia]

No need to get to youtube.

Just go to teamliquid.net site and you will find a LOT of live stream of pro/semi-pro playing right now.

wow! awesome! thanks for the reccomendation. although, this will cut into my productivity at work! :D

[b0ub0u]

I do follow all Korean and non-Korean Starcraft pro scene so let me tell you... you can loose months of your time just watching matches.

If you check the calendar on that teamliquid site you can see that every day there is at least 9-10 matches being played in Korea for tournaments. You either watch them live via a stream (that you can find on the boards of that site) or you wait 1-2 day and you find them on youtube with english commentary!

[Hari Seldon]

My friend is in beta and said he has so far not been very impressed with it. He is a big fan of the original Starcraft. He said it feels more like a graphics upgrade than a complete game upgrade. It is just beta though.

Funny, the more I learn about the game the more it feels like Starcraft in 3D, let's hope I'm wrong though.

[zdan80]

Funny, the more I learn about the game the more it feels like Starcraft in 3D, let's hope I'm wrong though.

Wouldn't this sort of be a good thing considering how great many people think SC1 was? How much change do you think is right/acceptable building off one of the biggest games ever for that genre?

I was never a big sc player, but I did play endless hours of diablo, especially D2. I hope they take a somewhat tentative step with D3, changing things to make the gameplay better, with the heart of the game staying the same.

[Hari Seldon]

Wouldn't this sort of be a good thing considering how great many people think SC1 was? How much change do you think is right/acceptable building off one of the biggest games ever for that genre?

I was never a big sc player, but I did play endless hours of diablo, especially D2. I hope they take a somewhat tentative step with D3, changing things to make the gameplay better, with the heart of the game staying the same.

Since it's an RTS it should be different enough to guarantee that even hardcore players would have to adjust. If not, it would be like buying a new set of chess pieces.

[Zoltor]

Wouldn't this sort of be a good thing considering how great many people think SC1 was? How much change do you think is right/acceptable building off one of the biggest games ever for that genre?

I was never a big sc player, but I did play endless hours of diablo, especially D2. I hope they take a somewhat tentative step with D3, changing things to make the gameplay better, with the heart of the game staying the same.

Wow, whare to start, there are so many wrong things about your stance, and perception of gameplay.

I'm no SC fan either, but there is no way in hell, a move to 3D graphics, without completely changing the game along with it, is a good thing.

If anything has been proven, time, and time again, is that in every single case, 3D actually detracts alot from gameplay, unless "every" single system is built from the ground up, to make use of 3D, and even then, the game would most likely suck compared to a 2D counterpart.

D2 is not 3D(did you really spend endless hours playing D2?)lol, so I really don't know where you are getting at.

I really hate it, when I need to help a person, that I'm against, make his argument. Well anyway, you should've mentioned DDO instead(Dungeons & Dragons Online), that's probally the best example there is, when talking about how good a 3D game can be

[Zoltor]

Since it's an RTS it should be different enough to guarantee that even hardcore players would have to adjust. If not, it would be like buying a new set of chess pieces.

Yea, I'm sure that if all SC2 really is, is SC1 in 3D, there's no hope of SC2 being anything other then a complete POS.

Lol, Gravity tried to pull that BS with Ragnarok 2, does anyone even give a shit Ragnarok 2 is/was being developed, hell no, and no one cares that there hasn't been any update on progress either.

[zdan80]

I really hate it, when I need to help a person, that I'm against, make his argument. Well anyway, you should've mentioned DDO instead(Dungeons & Dragons Online), that's probally the best example there is, when talking about how good a 3D game can be

And I really hate it, when someone doesn't understand how to read a simple post, but feels the need to go ranting anyway. To simplify for you, I said that while I did not play enough Starcraft to have a stance, I did play enough Diablo2 to hope that they do not drastically change the feel of the game with D3, but instead stay true to what people loved about the originals.

I am very positive I never stated that I thought D2 was 3D, I was merely asking a basic question of how much change is good with such a loved franchise like SC.

A better analogy, since it sounds like you need one, might be the Bioshock series. Countless people thought Bioshock1 was the best game ever and a sequel would only do it harm. I think that 2K did a very good job of keeping the feel of the original, while adding enough different/improved elements to make the sequel standout.

[Hari Seldon]

I am very positive I never stated that I thought D2 was 3D, I was merely asking a basic question of how much change is good with such a loved franchise like SC.


That's impossible to know, the only thing certain is someone is gonna complain no matter what. If you are not into SC just go for SP and enjoy the ride, that's what I'm gonna do.

[carlcarlson]

Wouldn't this sort of be a good thing considering how great many people think SC1 was? How much change do you think is right/acceptable building off one of the biggest games ever for that genre?

I was never a big sc player, but I did play endless hours of diablo, especially D2. I hope they take a somewhat tentative step with D3, changing things to make the gameplay better, with the heart of the game staying the same.

I'm with you. Give it a fresh coat of paint but leave the guts be.

It's got to be tough, though, figuring out how to keep the game feeling new without changing it so much that it's a completely different experience. And by tough, I guess I mean impossible, because no matter what they're going to have people on both sides complaining. I think it's safe to assume they'll have a winner here, though.

[ambriglia]

here is my input.

the single player will be different, as in you will be getting a great story and completely new aspects to the single player experience. but the multiplayer will be similar. Blizzard's goal was to make it the most competitive RTS. I have no problem with that because i can go back right now to SC1 and play competitively. most likely will be a niche game, but i think all blizzard games are, with the exception of WOW.

[portnoyd]

I really hate it, when I need to help a person, that I'm against, make his argument. Well anyway, you should've mentioned DDO instead(Dungeons & Dragons Online), that's probally the best example there is, when talking about how good a 3D game can be

I really love it, when an argumentative idiot, that is on thin ice already, takes those final steps, towards a ban.

[pseudonym]

I'm looking forward to it, not only for the gameplay but the story since it kind of ended on a cliffhanger of sorts at the end.

[ambriglia]

played some SC1 matches last night and it felt so good. there is nothing like it. :)

[zemmix]

Is it bad that I'm in Beta but haven't gotten around to playing it yet? Maybe I'd have more time if the stupid lich king would die already.

[ambriglia]

that sould be illegal. if anyone has a beta key and they are not using it, you should be forced to give up your key to someone who will use it! AKA... Me! Please?! :O

[ambriglia]

update...

anyone who has been playing the beta, how is it? balanced? too similar to SC1?

[Flashback2012]

I really love it, when an argumentative idiot, that is on thin ice already, takes those final steps, towards a ban.

Those final steps were taken! Good riddance I say.

As for the topic at hand, no beta access for me. I just hope they leave in the Tauren Marine that they showed off as an April Fool's joke a couple of years ago. ;)

[chrisbid]

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/how-blizzard-became-blizzard/

an interesting post from sean malstrom on the history of starcraft, and how blizzard has a history of *gasp* using gamer feedback to improve a beta, rather than using a beta to simply remove bugs. the screenshots of the alpha version of sc1 are pretty funny.

[ambriglia]

http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/how-blizzard-became-blizzard/

an interesting post from sean malstrom on the history of starcraft, and how blizzard has a history of *gasp* using gamer feedback to improve a beta, rather than using a beta to simply remove bugs. the screenshots of the alpha version of sc1 are pretty funny.

wow. thanks for sharing. that was a great read!

[b0ub0u]

Just found a way to play the Beta without having to be invited by Blizzard =)

Of course it won't be multiplayer but you can still play against a decent AI. The game so far is SUPERB.

Let me know guys if you want to know how...

[carlcarlson]

Release date revealed: July 27th.

So anyone else playing the beta now? I got a key from one of their Facebook trivia contests last week and have probably played 25 matches or so. I'm doing about as well as I expected, meaning I am providing easy wins for others.

I never really played much Starcraft before, as RTS games really stress me out. Nevertheless I wanted in on this one and I think it's a blast. I've been watching matches on youtube (Husky and HDStarcraft) and trying to emulate their tactics. I've had some good wins and some absolutely terrific losses. It's not unusual for me to be feeling pretty good with my army, only to get run over by Thors, Battlecruisers, and Hydras. Even losing is fun somehow, though, and I look forward to tackling the single player campaign. Blizzard never fails to get me pumped for one of their releases.

Also, I've got an extra beta key for sale. If you're interested PM me and we can work something out.

[Callin]

I've got a Mac, so no beta for me yet. Sad face.

The game looks to be excellent. As far as multiplayer goes, it seems like you have many more options as far as strategies are concerned. Looks like the campaigns will have a lot of custom units also, some of them even being carried over from the original Starcraft (though not producible in multiplayer).

[Trumpman]

Mac beta is out now. Go download it if you want to.

[Callin]

Damn, you're right.

I blame exams.

[zemmix]

Release date revealed: July 27th.

So anyone else playing the beta now? I got a key from one of their Facebook trivia contests last week and have probably played 25 matches or so. I'm doing about as well as I expected, meaning I am providing easy wins for others.


I finally have gotten around to playing my beta a bit more. I've pretty much been free kills for everyone else I've played too. Though I'm always just trying to build stuff and try it out rather than win.

I pre ordered the Collectors edition from Amazon. $33 shipping though to Japan...ouch...

[Trumpman]

Preordered it from Amazon so should be getting a beta key via email soon. Can't wait to hop in and start playing.

[Oldskool]

Sounds cool. Believe it or not I never even played Starcraft until yesterday. I picked up a mint Starcraft at the Goodwill for $2. I'm liking it a lot! The music is great too. I just practically fell right into it though, since it's so much like Warcraft or C&C. (Also picked up C&C Generals + Expansion Pack for $2).

I'll be keeping an eye out for SC2.

[Trumpman]

Played my first few games in the beta. It's pretty fun, although my competition hasn't exactly been challenging yet. It's a shame my two-year old MacBook Pro can only muster the lowest settings, though as the game looks kind of bad on those. Hopefully as Blizzard optimizes the Mac version I'll be able to run higher quality graphics.

It seems like it's going to be a great game. My problem is this: after Company of Heroes, which may be my favorite game of all time, it's hard for me to get used to having to harvest for resources again.

[ambriglia]

game comes out in 7 days! cant wait! i pre-ordered this game 3 years ago, the day it was leaked to the public. i am first on the list at my local gamestop!

bought myself a new rig last week solely for this game. should come sometime this week.

anyone been playing the beta regularly? any thoughts? things you like? things you dont like? balance?

[pseudonym]

I'm going into this game nearly blind to be honest. I haven't been following much about the game since it was announced.

Would anyone care to have a small gathering now and then for some casual pick-up games? Most of the people I know have been playing for months (in beta) now and are far more competitive than me.

[otaku]

getting excited about my copy coming in the mail next week!

[ambriglia]

I'm going into this game nearly blind to be honest. I haven't been following much about the game since it was announced.

Would anyone care to have a small gathering now and then for some casual pick-up games? Most of the people I know have been playing for months (in beta) now and are far more competitive than me.

i am in the same boat. alot of my friends have been playing the beta too and i havent played it yet. i figure it will take me a couple weeks to beat the single player campaign, and then will move exclusively to multiplayer.

might play a few multiplayer games mixed in while playing the campaign. maybe we will get a couple others to play on this forum. if not, pm me sometime in the future.

[Tempest]

I keep trying to make myself excited about this, but I just can't seem to do it. Had this come out 10 years ago I'd be all over it, but I stopped playing Starcraft so long ago that, at least for me, the excitement is gone. I fired up the original the other day and could only play through a handful of missions before growing bored. I just don't know why I can't recapture the magic. I'll probably get it eventually though.

Oddly I'm still really excited about Diablo III.

Tempest

[alec006]

Has it really been that long since the last Starcraft,that's one of the first games I played on PC,good times. I always did want more of the storyline. Poor Sarah Kerrigan, I felt sorry for her,damn Zerg,I even cheated to blow up every last part of their stupid little colony and they still got her!

[Tempest]

Has it really been that long since the last Starcraft,
1998 IIRC.

Tempest

[b0ub0u]

Haa Starcraft... THE rts that makes all other RTSs obsolete =) On a competitive level at least!

Been playing the beta for a few months... the game is awesome. I just hope that they integrate chat rooms back into b.net 2.0.

This game already has more tournaments and competitive scene on a beta than most games have with their final product!

[ambriglia]

Haa Starcraft... THE rts that makes all other RTSs obsolete =) On a competitive level at least!

Been playing the beta for a few months... the game is awesome. I just hope that they integrate chat rooms back into b.net 2.0.

This game already has more tournaments and competitive scene on a beta than most games have with their final product!

Wow, people are already playing the game competitively?! i am seriously wayyyy behind the 8 ball.

[b0ub0u]

Wow, people are already playing the game competitively?! i am seriously wayyyy behind the 8 ball.

Yup! There are already great players (mostly non-koreans for now) that are getting visibility on tournaments on SC2.

Go on youtube and check any games from White-RA, The Little One, Idra etc... you will be amazed at the level they play =) And most of these tournaments have money prize in the thousands $ already! Most of these players were already great players in SC1 but some are new.

I can't wait to see what will happen when the Korean scene begin their shift toward SC2. They are still pretty hardcore on SC1 with all their players focusing on SC1.

[Trumpman]

Well, it's out today...and it looks like Amazon screwed me with Release Date Shipping again. Not doing that again, after they burned me on Modern Warfare 2 as well.

Anyone played the game yet? I played the beta, but am looking forward to the campaign almost more than the actual multiplayer.

[Flashback2012]

I hit up my local GS and snagged my CE copy. There was about 15 or so people that showed up. I also got screwed out of the CE guide that I had pre-ordered. The guy who rang it up didn't hand it to me when I pre-paid the remaining balance on it and left it on the back counter. Another customer came in and saw it and tried to buy it. A different employee had almost sold it to him until the guy who rang me out saw it get picked up off the back counter and pointed out I'd already paid for it. @_@

I got home and was messing with the tutorials when my cousin started instant messaging me. He hadn't planned on picking up the game because Blizzard announced a while back that Wings of Liberty was the first of 3 parts to SCII and felt that Blizzard was being disingenuous with their marketing of the game. I gave him the laundry list of details about the game and CE package and he apparently had a change of heart and decided he wanted the game after all. :beaten:

I ended up getting dressed and went back out with him to hit up the local Wally Worlds to see if we could snag a copy. He of course wanted the CE like I had and we figured we might have a hard time hunting one down but we struck gold at the first Wal-Mart we tried (we credited the fact that a full moon was out ;)). I came back home and fell asleep so I still have to finish the tutorial. :grumble:

[Tempest]

I may get this eventually, but $60 is a bit steep for 1/3 of the game. Hopefully it will go on sale in a few months and by then I'll be ready for it.

[portnoyd]

Well, it's out today...and it looks like Amazon screwed me with Release Date Shipping again. Not doing that again, after they burned me on Modern Warfare 2 as well..

Damn, I ordered my copy yesterday from Amazon with Release Date Shipping and it's out on the truck for delivery. Sorry bro. :(

Will be playing single tonight unless my friend wants to dive into multi so we can have our neverending wars of mediocrity.

[FxMercenary]

Just opened up my CE right now from Amazon. Patching my Soundblaster X-Fi card right now then its go-time!

[pseudonym]

Yeah $60 is a bit steep but I'll likely pick it up this week or next.

[Jisho23]

http://www.amazon.com/Starcraft-II-Wings-Liberty-Pc/product-reviews/B000ZKA0J6/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&qid=1280289461&sr=8-1

I find this startling, that the game has received criticism this stratified. I know, it is just amazon critics (and theres no way anyone can just criticize a game after 1 day of playing) but you would assume with a series as massively popular as SC that the "fanboys" would trump the haters.

On another note, what do people that have a computer that can run SC think?

[Hari Seldon]

http://www.amazon.com/Starcraft-II-Wings-Liberty-Pc/product-reviews/B000ZKA0J6/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&qid=1280289461&sr=8-1

I find this startling, that the game has received criticism this stratified. I know, it is just amazon critics (and theres no way anyone can just criticize a game after 1 day of playing) but you would assume with a series as massively popular as SC that the "fanboys" would trump the haters.

On another note, what do people that have a computer that can run SC think?

There is no way this game is gonna live up to the hype. Expect a mix of really good / really bad user reviews and the usual from IGN, Gamespy, etc.

[CDiablo]

There is no way this game is gonna live up to the hype. Expect a mix of really good / really bad user reviews and the usual from IGN, Gamespy, etc.

Most people are ragging on it for the shitty DRM, the problems install due to it, no Lan Play, having to be online to play any mode and the fact that they are selling this game 3x over to to cover the campaign. Im afraid I am missing out on a pretty good game here, but Im not buying due to most of those factors. Unlike others on the internet Im not writing bad reviews due to that.

[portnoyd]

On another note, what do people that have a computer that can run SC think?

The game is Starcraft. It's fun, prettier and the story is more immersive. I can't imagine not having a machine that can't run this. My 2 year old midtier gaming machine runs it with all the settings jacked to the max with 60fps.

I will probably not pick up the next two packs unless they are <$30. Even then, it'll be a tough decision.

[zemmix]

Most of those 1 star reviews are people that don't even own it. They all have the same complaints: no lan waahhhh, I can't pirate it easily wahhh, $60 is too much wahhh. Lets be realistic, at those old SC lan parties maybe one person had an official copy of the game and everyone else had a burned disc.

[b0ub0u]

Hey guys.

PM me if you want to play some games. We can add each other as friends in the game.

I play pretty much everyday and will be playing for the next few years lol

Looking forward to some 1vs1 or whatever!

[Jisho23]

The game is Starcraft. It's fun, prettier and the story is more immersive. I can't imagine not having a machine that can't run this. My 2 year old midtier gaming machine runs it with all the settings jacked to the max with 60fps.

I will probably not pick up the next two packs unless they are <$30. Even then, it'll be a tough decision.

Yeah, I have a 5 year old laptop. It was a high performance laptop back then, but it's really feeling its age now. It could run SCII, but I'd prefer to play on settings higher than "crappy."

[BHvrd]

Most people are ragging on it for the shitty DRM, the problems install due to it, no Lan Play, having to be online to play any mode and the fact that they are selling this game 3x over to to cover the campaign. Im afraid I am missing out on a pretty good game here, but Im not buying due to most of those factors. Unlike others on the internet Im not writing bad reviews due to that.

Yep, those are all good reasons. No LAN play is a big WTF.

[Jisho23]

I've heard a lot of people really vigorously attack the "no lan" criticism of the game. Let me put it this way; I played SC multiplayer ONLY over a LAN. I was terrible at it, but my best memories of the game was getting my ass kicked by friends who were only a few feet away from me.

I'm sure I am not the only person who would rather be on a closed network, gaming with people (in person) you know, and NOT dealing with the jackasses that populate the internet or the humorless competitive players who will ruthlessly stomp newer players.

No lan IS a big deal. Its enough of a deal breaker that I have literally NO desire to play this game. It comes off (regardless of intention) that Blizzard wants to force everyone to play their game using ONLY their service and have no alternatives. Frankly, because of crap like this, Activision-Blizzard is the number one reason I am growing to despise gaming.

[HyperDuel]

It will be sad (I don't play Starcraft) because at the college's game room there's a big LAN room and I know some of my friends are pissed because the game has no LAN.

It will be popular but honestly it blows that there's no LAN.

[Hari Seldon]

Still trying to download the fucking client here, I get a lot of download not authorized errors.

[Griking]

It will be sad (I don't play Starcraft) because at the college's game room there's a big LAN room and I know some of my friends are pissed because the game has no LAN.

It will be popular but honestly it blows that there's no LAN.

Why couldn't you all just create your own games on the Battle.net server and play together like you always used to? I think that most people's problem is really that they'd all have to purchase their own copies of the game to play it but is that really so much to ask?

[portnoyd]

Why couldn't you all just create your own games on the Battle.net server and play together like you always used to? I think that most people's problem is really that they'd all have to purchase their own copies of the game to play it but is that really so much to ask?

Unneeded latency. Why put 8 connections over one pipe when you can have it run off a 8 port router. Makes no sense. If they were so concerned with piracy, have the game validate all the game copies and allow the LAN server to run.

I agree it's a bonehead move. It's a part of the overall problem I have with the game, that they tried to make it World of Starcraft without the MMORPG part of it.

In other news, the singleplayer is fun as shit. Did another 4 missions last night and they were all awesome.

[HyperDuel]

Unneeded latency. Why put 8 connections over one pipe when you can have it run off a 8 port router. Makes no sense. If they were so concerned with piracy, have the game validate all the game copies and allow the LAN server to run.

I agree it's a bonehead move. It's a part of the overall problem I have with the game, that they tried to make it World of Starcraft without the MMORPG part of it.

In other news, the singleplayer is fun as shit. Did another 4 missions last night and they were all awesome.

Nailed it.

Why do people need to go on the internet to play when all the computers are in the same room? Besides the computers in the LAN room on campus has no internet (and all the games are LAN only) so no Starcraft 2 on campus.

And IMO it is better to play with friends you know than people you don't know.

[Callin]

I played through the whole campaign, both the Terran missions and the four Protoss ones. They did a really good job with the levels - they are very creative and you'll never have the same level twice. Starcraft 1 had a lot of "destroy all enemies" missions, but in this game they are much more diverse.

I was really disappointed with the story and characterization, however. Interesting minor characters are introduced then forgotten. The last mission features an alien device whose function is unbelievably convenient in the overall plot. Just what they needed, when they needed it. Kerrigan, whose was so devious and scheming in SC, is barely seen in SC2, and ultimately does nothing other than oppose you. It all felt very shallow. I know SC2 has been unfortunately overhyped, but the story and characterization in it feel inferior even to the original. They don't even come close.

[Diatribal Deity]

Bob Colayco at Blizzard PR:

"We don't currently plan to support LAN play with StarCraft II, as we are building Battle.net to be the ideal destination for multiplayer gaming with StarCraft II and future Blizzard Entertainment games. While this was a difficult decision for us, we felt that moving away from LAN play and directing players to our upgraded Battle.net service was the best option to ensure a quality multiplayer experience with StarCraft II and safeguard against piracy.

Several Battle.net features like advanced communication options, achievements, stat-tracking, and more, require players to be connected to the service, so we're encouraging everyone to use Battle.net as much as possible to get the most out of StarCraft II. We're looking forward to sharing more details about Battle.net and online functionality for StarCraft II in the near future"

Straight from the horses mouth...those boneheads are still gonna make a ton of $ regardless. And I'm sure they thought of this quite extensively.

[HyperDuel]

Bob Colayco at Blizzard PR:

"We don't currently plan to support LAN play with StarCraft II, as we are building Battle.net to be the ideal destination for multiplayer gaming with StarCraft II and future Blizzard Entertainment games. While this was a difficult decision for us, we felt that moving away from LAN play and directing players to our upgraded Battle.net service was the best option to ensure a quality multiplayer experience with StarCraft II and safeguard against piracy.

Several Battle.net features like advanced communication options, achievements, stat-tracking, and more, require players to be connected to the service, so we're encouraging everyone to use Battle.net as much as possible to get the most out of StarCraft II. We're looking forward to sharing more details about Battle.net and online functionality for StarCraft II in the near future"

Straight from the horses mouth...those boneheads are still gonna make a ton of $ regardless. And I'm sure they thought of this quite extensively.

Yep, still it's stupid that there's no LAN. I usually get a worse playing experience online than LAN but that's just me.

[mario2butts]

StarCraft II menu screens are overheating PCs‎ (http://www.geek.com/articles/games/starcraft-ii-menu-screen-are-overheating-pcs-20100729/)

I don't have the game yet but I was planning on getting it soon, now I'm glad I stumbled on this so I don't have to find out the hard way :-/

[Flashback2012]

StarCraft II menu screens are overheating PCs‎ (http://www.geek.com/articles/games/starcraft-ii-menu-screen-are-overheating-pcs-20100729/)

I don't have the game yet but I was planning on getting it soon, now I'm glad I stumbled on this so I don't have to find out the hard way :-/

Yeah...for the life of me I cannot find where to plug this in at. Here's the info from that page


To fix or prevent the overheating just open up the variables.txt file located here (assuming a default install):

Documents\StarCraft II\variables.txt

and then add the following two lines to it, save, and restart the game:

frameratecapglue=30
frameratecap=60

Checked my SC2 folder and didn't see one labeled documents. So uhhh what am I doing wrong here? :beaten:

[portnoyd]

"We don't currently plan to support LAN play with StarCraft II, as we are building Battle.net to be the ideal destination for multiplayer gaming with StarCraft II and future Blizzard Entertainment games. While this was a difficult decision for us, we felt that moving away from LAN play and directing players to our upgraded Battle.net service was the best option to ensure a quality multiplayer experience with StarCraft II and safeguard against piracy.

Several Battle.net features like advanced communication options, achievements, stat-tracking, and more, require players to be connected to the service, so we're encouraging everyone to use Battle.net as much as possible to get the most out of StarCraft II. We're looking forward to sharing more details about Battle.net and online functionality for StarCraft II in the near future"

Translation: The days are over that 8 people play the same copy of our games. To punish you little fucks for pirating our game so much over the past 10 years, we're going sit over your shoulder for the next 10 years so you don't fuck around. As a bonus to us, we'll use you, our massive fanbase, to turn battle.net into the gaming version of Facebook so we make even more money off of you down the road, even after you pay $180 for all three versions of SC2.

Don't mean to sound bitter, but that's all I saw when I read this guy's quote.

[Trebuken]

StarCraft II menu screens are overheating PCs‎ (http://www.geek.com/articles/games/starcraft-ii-menu-screen-are-overheating-pcs-20100729/)

I don't have the game yet but I was planning on getting it soon, now I'm glad I stumbled on this so I don't have to find out the hard way :-/

I haven't noticed a heat issue, but I never left the game sitting with the title screen up.

My EVGA On-Screen display did show over 800fps during the title screen.

I added the lines for the fix.

[Flashback2012]

I haven't noticed a heat issue, but I never left the game sitting with the title screen up.

My EVGA On-Screen display did show over 800fps during the title screen.

I added the lines for the fix.

Help a guy out...where is the file to add the lines? ^^;

[Callin]

Translation: The days are over that 8 people play the same copy of our games. To punish you little fucks for pirating our game so much over the past 10 years, we're going sit over your shoulder for the next 10 years so you don't fuck around. As a bonus to us, we'll use you, our massive fanbase, to turn battle.net into the gaming version of Facebook so we make even more money off of you down the road, even after you pay $180 for all three versions of SC2.

Don't mean to sound bitter, but that's all I saw when I read this guy's quote.
Having to log into your account just to play single-player and earn achievements is ridiculous. The fact that people in the same household need to buy additional copies of the game just to create their own account and track their own campaign progress (and not just play as a guest) is equally ridiculous. Even if there's only one computer, and you don't plan to play each other, guess what? That's right, additional copies.

Have you seen the Amazon ratings (http://www.amazon.com/Starcraft-II-Wings-Liberty-Pc/product-reviews/B000ZKA0J6/) for this game? Much more negative than the original Starcraft. I thought they'd be lower, but even I was surprised by the 3/5 stars average.

I've played Warcraft 2 and 3, Diablo 1 and 2, and Starcraft, but Starcraft 2 is the first time I feel like Blizzard's let me down.

[pseudonym]

Lack of LAN support and the price has really disappointed me. B.net is kind of lacking from what I've seen too. The campaign is fun, and I had a couple of matches over B.net with a friend, but I might wait until a price-drop for the next one.

[Peonpiate]

The title screen overheating issue really only effects people who have poorly cooled/vented systems. If your machine can run small fft's on prime 95 and not overheat, then SC2's title screen will not overheat your system. If it can run Furmark and not overheat, SC2's title screen will not crash you.

I do agree that its stupid the FPS is not capped on that screen, but to blame THAT alone for crashes is just not accurate. Its a symptom of a larger problem if it crashes your PC [fix/upgrade your cooling].

[Peonpiate]

As far as LAN goes, since this game is going to be so popular...Give it a month or two and I bet there will be some workarounds to get LAN working.