Marvel vs Capcom 3 [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

portnoyd

04-09-2010, 07:09 AM

Please, for the love of god, don't use the TvC engine. Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please

ShinobiMan

04-09-2010, 09:35 AM

Here is a great article that discusses the rumor. It even has a fake screenshot that is pretty cool.

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/rumour-marvel-vs-capcom-3-announcement-imminent/a-20100408125729118020

Another article from a reputable website.

http://kotaku.com/5511912/marvel-vs-capcom-3-unveiling-soon

Also is appears that MTV thinks this is viable news.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/04/08/marvel-vs-capcom-3/

I would LOVe to see a new MvC. I can't tell you how many hours I spent on the old Marvel / Capcom games (X-Men: COTA and XvS).

Jorpho

04-09-2010, 09:55 AM

Since they reportedly couldn't find a way to work Phoenix Wright into TvC, I find my interest has waned.

Dastardly Dylan

04-09-2010, 11:33 AM

The same dude that leaked that Hakan would be in Super Street Fighter IV leaked this news, it is supposed to be officially announced in May.

diskoboy

04-09-2010, 12:45 PM

Rumors have a strange way of becoming the truth.

Here's hoping this one does.

AND I WANT MACHINE MAN AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER, DAMMIT!!!
http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/0/7/0/9/4/webimg/1116943.jpg

TonyTheTiger

04-09-2010, 02:25 PM

With everybody being in bed with each other anyway, they might as well invite Tatsunoko and SNK in on the party. Pretty soon we're just going to have one giant crossover called "FIGHTING GAME!"

Smashed Brother

04-09-2010, 02:36 PM

If this is true and it were to be eventually released on home systems...ooh, I think that it would be time for me to upgrade!

Crapcom better hear my cries and make Blade a playable character for f's sake!!

hbkprm

04-09-2010, 02:52 PM

cant wait

portnoyd

04-09-2010, 03:00 PM

Wishlist:
1. Bring back all the characters from 2.
2. Completely break Cable so I can, you know, compete in tourneys.
3. Make it 2D (chances of that? less than zero).
4. Don't make it like TvC.
5. One word: Deadpool.

CDiablo

04-09-2010, 04:39 PM

Whats with the TvC hate? I just got it and loved it.....Is it the 2 character format? The 3 Button format?

portnoyd

04-09-2010, 05:12 PM

ubersaurus

04-09-2010, 05:19 PM

I just couldn't get into it. Part of it is every FAQ and forum post on SRK uses the 123/456/789 layout for the movements and I couldn't get used to it.

I hate to say it, but I think the only things on my wishlist I will get are #1 and #5.

Fuck that new SRK notation :P That's why they have built in command lists!

i love the Tatsunoko engine, and given that the game isn't anywhere near as broken as the old Marvel games, by all means I say reuse that and let the same guys handle a new Marvel. I'd love them to combine it with Tatsunoko's properties as well; bring back JJ from Zillion!

DonMarco

04-09-2010, 05:31 PM

2. Completely break Cable so I can, you know, compete in tourneys.
First thing they need to do to is have the power bar lower with each special attack. Right off the bat, this limits the special attack spammers (cable, storm, magneto). Have regular attacks charge the bar and special attacks lower it only makes sense.

Second thing is to have a team of three-on-three with a fourth random character. MvC1 was two-on-two, MvC 2 was three-on-three and now MvC4 will be four-to-four. The max power bar will still only go to level five.

3. Make it 2D (chances of that? less than zero).
Well... It might be entirely possible. The Xbox Live and PlayStation Network have the game out and running fine. Both were basically already forwards compatible from the PS2 and Xbox. The sales figures for the downloadable versions were pretty good as I remember, so maybe Capcom will dust off their animators and sprite editors for another 2D game?

But I ask you: Will it be cheaper/easier to animate 10-15 characters and add them to an updated MvC2 engine or to model and add several dozen characters to the TvC engine?

I am worried that if they go with the TvC engine, they'll drop characters like my beloved Shuma for speed or future DLC reasons.

5. One word: Deadpool.
http://www.dontpressstart.com/upload/shoryuken.jpg
If you add Deadpool, you gotta include Kitty Pryde. And before you start seriously thinking about an intangible character in a fighting game- don't. Also include Thor, Beast, anyone from the Fantastic Four... Red Hulk would also be a no-brainer. Updating all the Marvel costumes to their modern duds would also be a step in the right direction. 90's Cyclops and Storm, for starters.

New Capcom fighters? Frank West, Dante, Zero. Another Resident Evil character like Wesker. Harman Smith (and six others) from Killer 7.

Hawksmoor

04-09-2010, 06:06 PM

I'd honestly rather see DC vs Capcom. MK vs DC was pretty bleh.

Swamperon

04-09-2010, 06:21 PM

I'd honestly rather see DC vs Capcom. MK vs DC was pretty bleh.

Exactly, I'd rather see Capcom Vs someone else. Sega, Konami etc Could have some great rosters there.

HyperDuel

04-09-2010, 07:04 PM

2 on 2, no 3 on 3.

Baloo

04-09-2010, 07:33 PM

I want to see it based off of Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, I personally thought that game had a great engine, especially considering Marvel Vs. Capcom 2's broken-as-hell one that made the game not fun to play AT ALL.

portnoyd

04-09-2010, 07:36 PM

The MvC2 engine is what made it fun to play. Amazingly deep considering how amazingly broken it is.

Emperor Megas

04-09-2010, 07:50 PM

I'd love them to combine it with Tatsunoko's properties as well; bring back JJ from Zillion!And Speed, Rex and Pops Racer.

Jorpho

04-09-2010, 11:59 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing the Jump Ultimate Stars engine get co-opted, but maybe that's asking too much.

Do you think we'll ever see Duo again..?

SegaAges

04-10-2010, 01:53 AM

With everybody being in bed with each other anyway, they might as well invite Tatsunoko and SNK in on the party. Pretty soon we're just going to have one giant crossover called "FIGHTING GAME!"

And I will be one of the dudes pre-ordering that bitch

kupomogli

04-10-2010, 03:12 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing the Jump Ultimate Stars engine get co-opted, but maybe that's asking too much.

I'm had a few main set ups which I was really good with. Atleast four with each Raoh/Vegeta, Raoh/Dio, Vegeta/Dio, Raoh/Vegeta/Dio(specific supports only.) Those characters were the ones I was best with, but I used combinations of others too, mainly Hiei, Zoro, Hitsugaya, Ichigo, Yugi, Nico, and Taikoubou. I'll probably start playing that game again.

Anyways. I don't think we're going to see a MvC3. If people know it's coming out sometime later, what do you think will happen to SSF4 sales. People might not have enough to buy both or might just only want to buy one. If they're more interested in a MvC game than a normal Street Fighter, they might just pass on SSF4.

Also those images are probably fake. You can create your own costumes or character models and put them into the PC version of SF4.

If it ever is released though. I'd like to see Dante and Ryu. Ryu being in a MvC game is extremely overdue. Just think. His special attacks could be him turning into a dragon or using the Super Combo ability from BoF3. They could make Super Combo to where you have to hit the person with it first, and then Ryu jumps back and you have to enter the commands that pop up on the screen as fast as you can, with a max damage, a minimum damage, and then however you hit make up for how much you take off(just like in BoF3.) Also his alternate costumes could be either his BoF, BoF2, BoF3 or BoF5 looks(four face buttons for the costumes.) His BoF4 look wasn't so great(nether was his BoF5 look but should pay some homage to a great game that's extremely underrated.)

Jorpho

04-10-2010, 09:54 AM

Only they're clearly going to have to call Ryu something else entirely to keep everyone from getting hopelessly confused. :p

Famidrive-16

04-11-2010, 02:26 AM

If Capcom ports the Marvel characters over to that three-button, floaty TvC engine it'd be an actual reason to buy a Wii.

Stupid Wii crowd. All they get are the dumbed-down Capcom fighting games because all they know is Smash Brothers.

awww, someone's salty they dont have tvc

Gapporin

04-12-2010, 08:17 PM

I'd love them to combine it with Tatsunoko's properties as well; bring back JJ from Zillion!

This. Also, please add The Flying House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_House), kthx.

Richter Belmount

04-12-2010, 08:18 PM

This. Also, please add The Flying House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_House), kthx.

Then jesus would have to be part of the Tatsunoko crew if that were the case

GrandAmChandler

04-12-2010, 09:00 PM

Apocalypse or GTFO.

Matt-El

04-12-2010, 11:15 PM

Tatsunoko Fight! had the main villains available for each hero. I could get behind a revised TVC with them.

Emperor Megas

04-13-2010, 01:28 AM

But anyway Punisher, Deathlok, Ghost Rider, Carnage, Thor, Kingpin, Jigsaw, Rhino, Red Skull are some of the characters on my wish list for MVC3.No Deadpool?

Tron 2.0

04-13-2010, 01:28 AM

LOL if any body thinks there will be a (MvsC3) capcom would need a licensed deal frist with disney/marvel frist befor doing so.

Richter Belmount

04-13-2010, 01:18 PM

Its a cartoon drawn by a creepy short otaku nerd from japan , think of that when you try to get a stiffy off that K?

Tron 2.0

04-14-2010, 02:36 AM

[Keep stareing i'm sure your sig eyes will bug out soon enough LOL

Famidrive-16

04-14-2010, 02:41 AM

Its a cartoon drawn by a creepy short otaku nerd from japan , think of that when you try to get a stiffy off that K?

So what?

Saigado may be creepy, but I don't know about his height.

kedawa

04-14-2010, 03:05 AM

Its a cartoon drawn by a creepy short otaku nerd from japan , think of that when you try to get a stiffy off that K?
When you look at a picture of a sexy woman, do you think about the hack graphic artist that fabricated her out of some snapshot of a blown out skank in Photoshop?

Xtincthed

04-15-2010, 10:30 AM

MVC3.. droooool.. that will be my most-wanted game definately :D

ubersaurus

04-17-2010, 11:21 AM

portnoyd

04-17-2010, 04:14 PM

Warning: FUCKING SWEET approaches.

FUCKING SWEET

Only16bits

04-18-2010, 05:59 AM

I want Zack or Wiki playables!

kedawa

04-18-2010, 07:24 AM

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/apr/17/all-official-marvel-vs-capcom-3-works/

So, it's apparently a cross between Marvel 2 and Street Fighter 4, which sounds godawful. Color me wary. It would be a damn shame if they just ignored all the improvements that Tatsunoko made to that playstyle in favor of SF4's turtle-friendly gameplay.
I wouldn't read to much into that. It's not like the SF4 engine is biased toward turtling, it's just the way the game is balanced. If SF4 had guard crush and no ultras, it would be pure rushdown.

What worries me about this is the simple fact that 2.5D just doesn't work well for certain character designs, specifically ones that have morphing bodies like Anakaris, Morrigan, or Venom. It's not that these characters can't be done with 3D models, they would just be so much more work that the developers would likely drop them in favour something easier.
I remember reading an old interview with one of the SF4 devs back when they were still asking for input on which characters would be in Super SF4, and he said something to the effect that Twelve wouldn't even be considered because of how hard it would be to model in 3D.

portnoyd

04-18-2010, 07:28 AM

While I'm happy I'm getting it at all, I will say I am worried as well. The thing with MvC2 is that it was just fast and I never saw SF4 as being as fast as MvC2 can be.

kedawa

04-18-2010, 07:33 AM

I think that's more of a design decision than a technical limitation, although I really wish SF4 and SSF4 had adjustable gamespeed like the old games.

GarrettCRW

04-18-2010, 08:20 PM

Kitty Pryde and Jessica Drew need to be in this. That is all.

kedawa

04-18-2010, 09:00 PM

Deadpool needs to be in this just so he can dragon punch Kitty Pryde.

betamax001

04-18-2010, 09:42 PM

I just hope they keep the laughable bad jazz music from Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. I know people hate it but damn it if doesnt get stuck in your head!

Dastardly Dylan

04-18-2010, 10:35 PM

Put Pheonix Wright and return Frank West back into the fighting series, and you got yourself a purchase, Capcom.

Seriously, everyone wants either the Ace Attorney or Dante (Devil May Cry) OR Leon/Chris (Resident Evil) in one of the many Capcom fighting games. As anticipated as this game is going to be they need to add at least one of these characters!

kedawa

04-18-2010, 10:54 PM

I doubt it would happen, but I would LOVE to see Gene in a fighting game.
Don't ast like you don't like the ball busta.

GarrettCRW

04-18-2010, 11:18 PM

Also, who I don't want to see in the game: Howard the Duck. (There's no telling what shit Queseda would sign on to now that Steve Gerber is dead).

kupomogli

04-19-2010, 01:01 AM

I doubt it would happen, but I would LOVE to see Gene in a fighting game.
Don't act like you don't like the ball busta.

I'd rather dragon kick your ass into the milky way. But yeah. Can't complain about the ball busta.

ubersaurus

04-20-2010, 02:45 AM

G-Boobie

04-20-2010, 03:20 AM

MVC3 trailer leaked:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=161ixqw&s=5

Looks like Chris Redfield, Morrigan, Ryu, Hulk, Iron Man, and Wolverine are all in for sure. Based on the silhouettes...Deadpool, Felicia, Captain America, Dr. Doom? I know they've already said that Magneto is in there too.

Based on the tiny bit of gameplay animation it looks visually like a more detailed Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

No gameplay footage yet, though the mention of the engine (MT Framework) is a little weird. The original Framework engine was designed to run Lost Planet, Dead Rising, and RE5. Nerdy digression.

If the game is half as fun as TvC, I'm in despite my utter inability to play any vs. game with any degree of competency. Here's hoping for the triumphant return of my go-to main man, Servbot.

Oh, yeah, while we're at it: CAPCOM! NO LOCKING CHARACTERS BEHIND FIFTY HOURS OF PLAYTIME GODDAMMIT.

Arcade_Ness

04-20-2010, 06:25 AM

Damn this looks sick! I wonder if Batsu will make an appearance. Forget Super Street Fighter 4, this is where the real action is at.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 07:41 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUWKuVJYnIE

Youtube link because tinypic is horrendous.

I need more to make a judgement. Please god, don't make it suck. That's all I ask.

GrandAmChandler

04-20-2010, 08:37 AM

Tron Bonne or GTFO.

Drexel923

04-20-2010, 11:24 AM

Well this better pan out better than it's looking. I'm not a huge MvC fan but tell me why they couldn't just keep with the high res 2D like in the Live/PSN versions of MvC2. Also reports from Kotaku are saying just above 30 characters...that is no where near enough. If they just added onto MvC 2 they could have had double that roster's size. BTW, I hate TvC and it sure looks similar to that. But again, this is all based on a teaser and day 1 info but I really don't have faith at this point.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 11:55 AM

Tron Bonne or GTFO.

THIS.

Well this better pan out better than it's looking. I'm not a huge MvC fan but tell me why they couldn't just keep with the high res 2D like in the Live/PSN versions of MvC2. Also reports from Kotaku are saying just above 30 characters...that is no where near enough. If they just added onto MvC 2 they could have had double that roster's size. BTW, I hate TvC and it sure looks similar to that. But again, this is all based on a teaser and day 1 info but I really don't have faith at this point.

AND AMAZING BARRELS OF THIS.

Part of the endearing part of MvC2 is it took pretty every character from the Marvel line of fighting games (Xmen COTA through MvC1) and pasted them into the game. Redoing them all in 3D just kinda ruins that.

As much as I'm excited for it, I am leary just because it's not 2D.

ubersaurus

04-20-2010, 12:06 PM

THIS.

AND AMAZING BARRELS OF THIS.

Part of the endearing part of MvC2 is it took pretty every character from the Marvel line of fighting games (Xmen COTA through MvC1) and pasted them into the game. Redoing them all in 3D just kinda ruins that.

As much as I'm excited for it, I am leary just because it's not 2D.

Yeah, but unless you want to wait like 3 years for the game, sprites are out. I don't see capcom going back to those just because of the cost involved vs. the return on the game. Especially since they'd likely have to go back and redo all the old sprites since they are so low res.

No, I think it was pretty obviously going to be done with 3D models. And come on, all this tatsunoko hate? Do you people even like video games?

jcalder8

04-20-2010, 12:12 PM

... Also reports from Kotaku are saying just above 30 characters...that is no where near enough. If they just added onto MvC 2 they could have had double that roster's size...

If this turns out to be true I'll be passing for sure. I was hoping for 100ish but at least 80. If they can't at least give us what we had in MvC2 they shouldn't bother with 3. I enjoyed MvC2 but I wasn't a huge fan but just looking at the list I'm having a hard time picking who they should leave out, let alone who they should include instead.

GrandAmChandler

04-20-2010, 12:14 PM

My hope is that they are saying "30+" just for now. I predict that roster grows immensely before release. If you remember when MvC2 came out the roster was pretty scarce until all of the unlockables were found out. There is no way they can get by with a 3v3 fighting game with just 30-40 characters, and Capcom knows this.

EDIT: I expect more info at E3.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 12:17 PM

Yeah, but unless you want to wait like 3 years for the game, sprites are out. I don't see capcom going back to those just because of the cost involved vs. the return on the game. Especially since they'd likely have to go back and redo all the old sprites since they are so low res.

No, I think it was pretty obviously going to be done with 3D models. And come on, all this tatsunoko hate? Do you people even like video games?

I already waited 10, 3 more is nothing. :P

TvC's control scheme sucked (dumbing down for the Wii was not a good idea) and I just couldn't get into it. It felt more like a standard SF title than a Marvel VS. title and I greatly prefer the latter.

ubersaurus

04-20-2010, 12:21 PM

I already waited 10, 3 more is nothing. :P

TvC's control scheme sucked (dumbing down for the Wii was not a good idea) and I just couldn't get into it. It felt more like a standard SF title than a Marvel VS. title and I greatly prefer the latter.

What, the four buttons? It works great! And that's only one less attack button than Marvel 2 had, dude :P Everyone that I have had try that game was wary of the four button scheme and thought it would just be dumbed down until they actually played it; I've seen nothing but praise for the controls. Unless you're using the wiimote ones, in which case what the hell is up with that?

I also disagree on your second point, the game felt like an evolution of the pre-Marvel 2 vs. games. The air dashing, the push blocking, bursts, chain combos, none of that is SF standard. Hell, even the pacing is hardcore fast compared to the SF series. I really don't even know, dude, are you sure you got Tatsunoko?

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 12:43 PM

What, the four buttons? It works great! And that's only one less attack button than Marvel 2 had, dude :P Everyone that I have had try that game was wary of the four button scheme and thought it would just be dumbed down until they actually played it; I've seen nothing but praise for the controls. Unless you're using the wiimote ones, in which case what the hell is up with that?

I also disagree on your second point, the game felt like an evolution of the pre-Marvel 2 vs. games. The air dashing, the push blocking, bursts, chain combos, none of that is SF standard. Hell, even the pacing is hardcore fast compared to the SF series. I really don't even know, dude, are you sure you got Tatsunoko?

I have TvC and an arcade stick for the Wii. I was very let down by the game. Very stifled and not as good as it could be and at times, even too fast.

There are no punches and no kicks, it's just attacks. That's what I mean dumbed down. The inability to call an assist defensively basically makes them links in combos and nothing more. I was really looking for the MvC3 I would never get and this didn't feel anything like it. The whole 3D thing also rained on my parade, which makes me weary about MvC3 even though I liked SF4.

ubersaurus

04-20-2010, 01:04 PM

I have TvC and an arcade stick for the Wii. I was very let down by the game. Very stifled and not as good as it could be and at times, even too fast.

There are no punches and no kicks, it's just attacks. That's what I mean dumbed down. The inability to call an assist defensively basically makes them links in combos and nothing more. I was really looking for the MvC3 I would never get and this didn't feel anything like it. The whole 3D thing also rained on my parade, which makes me weary about MvC3 even though I liked SF4.

I'm ok with not being able to call defensive assists; I felt they were too prevalent and spammable in Marvel 2. Tatsunoko has enough defensive options anyway, and I really hope they bring over the ones from it into the new Marvel game. As far as the attacks, attacks are attacks, regardless of whether it is punches, kicks, or pimpslaps. I felt they adapted the fighting game characters to the layout well, and all the new characters were built around them well. Perhaps best of all, no one in that game played like anyone else, which to me is far more preferable to a large cast of shotoclones.

I found the game to be fun enough that it has been in regular rotation on our game nights since the Japanese release back in 2008. I think too many people expected something different, whether it is the controls, the characters, or the console, and don't give the game a shot on its own merits.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 01:34 PM

I'm ok with not being able to call defensive assists; I felt they were too prevalent and spammable in Marvel 2. Tatsunoko has enough defensive options anyway, and I really hope they bring over the ones from it into the new Marvel game. As far as the attacks, attacks are attacks, regardless of whether it is punches, kicks, or pimpslaps. I felt they adapted the fighting game characters to the layout well, and all the new characters were built around them well. Perhaps best of all, no one in that game played like anyone else, which to me is far more preferable to a large cast of shotoclones.

As trite as it sounds, the way assists were handled in MvC2 really made the game for me. They were spammable (is the delay timer when you can call the assist longer in TvC? It seems it) but equally punishable, very flexible for offense and defense and you got a selection as well (not to say all of them were even close to useful). When I saw the changes made in TvC, I already put the game down a notch.

Punches and kicks are what I'm used to and you should be too. :P

Kitsune Sniper

04-20-2010, 02:25 PM

I can't believe it.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REUSE THE SAME FUCKING SPRITES FROM FIFTEEN YEARS AGO?! BLASPHEMY.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 02:31 PM

What's so wrong with that? It worked for MvC2 on XBL/PSN and Megaman 9/10.

ubersaurus

04-20-2010, 02:53 PM

What's so wrong with that? It worked for MvC2 on XBL/PSN and Megaman 9/10.

Megaman is also not very detailed and designed to invoke nostalgia from the NES games :P And Marvel 2 was just a straight up port with some filters.

But I remember a lot of people, myself included, giving Capcom shit for just recycling sprites for the CvS and MvC series. Competition among other sprite based fighters like BlazBlue and KOF though (and hell, even 3rd strike) mean that if the sprites aren't damn good then people will just gripe about that, too.

Also yeah, the assist timer in TvC is longer so they can't be abused, but on the upshot, you can only hurt an assist before and during their attack. Once they are doing their little taunt, they are invincible. If it were like in marvel where you can just wail on them then there would be no reason to ever summon them :P

Kitsune Sniper

04-20-2010, 02:53 PM

What's so wrong with that? It worked for MvC2 on XBL/PSN and Megaman 9/10.

It's surprise. They're not being lazy and are making new images. Capcom's used the same sprites since the Vs series first debuted in the 90's. SNK, at least, tries to tweak and change characters and backgrounds, and adds new characters over the years. Capcom... doesn't.

In fact, SVC Chaos has better graphics than every single VS game prior to MVC2. SNK spent more time on a single game than Capcom had in more than six years.

portnoyd

04-20-2010, 03:36 PM

Megaman is also not very detailed and designed to invoke nostalgia from the NES games :P And Marvel 2 was just a straight up port with some filters.

Still, 2D can still sell, new or used and abused. :P Anyway, if 3D sprites play like MvC2 sprites then I won't complain.

Also yeah, the assist timer in TvC is longer so they can't be abused, but on the upshot, you can only hurt an assist before and during their attack. Once they are doing their little taunt, they are invincible. If it were like in marvel where you can just wail on them then there would be no reason to ever summon them :P

But that's half the fun! You can wail on them but you also put yourself at risk beating on them. Covering and punishing assists well can really make the difference between winning and losing. It's such a great mind game. Seeing what TvC did makes it seem like they wanted the focus off tag/assist battles and more on the heads up play. Not that it's a bad thing but that's one reason why I think MvC2 is great.

Dastardly Dylan

04-20-2010, 04:16 PM

In the start for the Capcom black shaded characters I can see Frank West, Wesker, Chun-Li and Felicia :) hopefully West makes a return!

HappehLemons

04-20-2010, 05:08 PM

Really like to see dante..

Ze_ro

04-20-2010, 07:06 PM

There was absolutely no chance this game was going to be 2D. Anyone who thought so was deluding themselves.

Seriously, why would they make it 2D? The only reasons would be A) to reuse a bunch of ancient low resolution sprites that would have looked like total crap in a full-price retail game in 2011 or B) to appease the fanboys who are scared of change.

With 3D models, there is far more versatility. They can easily steal motions for other characters (even just simple fall and walk animations and such), modify existing animations to speed up development, change the look of a character without having to redraw everything, and release new costumes that they can sell over XBLA. This also allows them to use cinematic camera angles during things like super combos, win poses, etc.

I remember everyone shitting their pants when SF4 was going to be 3D, and that turned out alright... kept the gameplay intact, and brought the series to a newer audience who likely wouldn't have bought in to a new 2D game.

If you don't want it to be different, then just keep playing MvC2.

--Zero