Launch of PS4 and Xbox One are getting closer... are you getting one?

[WCP]

So, the days are creeping along, and it's only about 66 days till the PS4 is available. Anybody else starting to get a bit hyped about these things ? I love the smell of launch day plastic...

[Bojay1997]

I'm getting both and I'm excited about the fact that they are launching within a week of each other. It's totally irrational given that other than Halo on the Xbox and Luigi's Mansion on the Gamecube, I've never really spent more than a few hours playing launch games and my launch day consoles always sit mostly unused for about the first 6-8 months, but I guess I'm just an early adopter at my core.

[JSoup]

I've probably said this before in other topics, but I'll probably get a PS4 the same way I got the PS3. That is, wait a year or three till I can get one off Cregslist or similar for $150 used. I'm not really wow'd with either system, hell, I only got the PS3 games because I had burnt through all the PS2 games I was willing to pay for. Plus, we're planning on getting a gaming quality PC, so lots of WoW and dirt cheap Steam games.

[Nebagram]

I've got my PS4 pre-ordered and had it pre-ordered for a while now, along with Infamous and Watch Dogs. I'm not bothering with the Xbox One on launch, I was planning on doing what I did with the PS3- namely watch stock stay unsold on the shelf and pick one up off of ebay for £75 less than the RRP a week after launch- but from what I hear about pre-order levels (despite the extortionate RRP) this may not be an option. No biggie- I can wait a few months for an Xbone. There are only two exclusives that really look interesting anyway- Forza (as I'm a motor racing nut) and Titanfall, the latter of which I'm told is heading to the PC anyway and may later hit PS4.

[Niku-Sama]

when the price comes down quite a bit I will get a PS4. probably get a vita tv if they make it to the U.S. I'M done with m$ though 360 left a bad taste in my mouth

[DiEsmitty]

I have the PS4 Killzone bundle on preorder with Amazon, and I preordered BattleField 4 as well. Titan fall is about the only game that makes me want to by an XBOX One. GTA V and Killzone Mercenary will hold me over until mine arrives in the mail.

[kupomogli]

Not until 2014 when Infamous Second Son comes out. I'm interested in Watch Dogs, but aside from that, nothing else at launch. Meanwhile there are plenty of games I haven't played or completed on current gen systems, plus plenty of current gen and handheld games I'm interested in that are coming out this year. Who knows how long Grand Theft Auto 5 is going to keep me occupied along with all the other games coming out.

[WCP]

Not until 2014 when Infamous Second Son comes out.

Yeah, it's a damn shame that game isn't going to make launch. It would have added so much more respectability to that launch lineup. Why couldn't Killzone be the game that was delayed (there are already plenty of shooters, BF4 COD Ghosts, etc).


I've got both systems preordered, and I will freely admit that the launch lineups for both systems are pretty weak if you really think about it. My strategy, is to get both systems, and just try out the various free games and demos and such. Maybe rent a couple of games here and there. I might end up buying one or two games for each of them, but that's about it. I'll be waiting for the next wave of software like Second Son, and to a lesser degree Titanfall (I'm not really an online multiplayer guy)

[PreZZ]

Got my ps4 preoder paid in full. I bought the 360 on launch day and was my favorite console until 2009. I feel like first party games were lacking and Kinect took too much game development time and shelf space. The only good MS franchises are GOW, Halo and Forza, and they released too much of them this gen (4 forza games, 4 gow, 5 halos) I got bored of them after Halo ODST and gow2. Sony had a slow ps3 start, but since 2009 I've been playing ps3 exclusively, I have never played my 360 since then, Sony has a lot more exclusives and I save 50$ a year of xbox live. And with all the crap MS tried to shove down our throats with DRM and whatnot, the xbox one might be the first console I dont buy in 20 years on launch day. And Im still not sure I will even buy it eventually... maybe if they do Crackdown 3 and get Dave Jones to make it!

[Howie6925]

I'll be picking up a ps4 at launch and maybe drive club as an exclusive. I also have cod:ghosts and bf4 preordered as well. I'm getting excited for the launch. It will be my first launch system so I hope we have no issues.

[GREEN00]

Not at launch, probably in 2015.

[Flashback2012]

Oy hell no...I JUST got a PS3. ^^;

I just could not be arsed to get into the systems this gen. I picked up the Wii when they announced the red anniversary one and then a 2nd one before they did away with the BC for GC. I still plan on getting a XB360 at some point, maybe during the holidays when they have a stupid sale on them or something.

As for the XBONE and PS4...my attitude of MEH continues and I imagine it'll be several years before I take the Nestea Plunge on either.

[Tron 2.0]

PS4,probably not until next year for me.It's early release haven't grabbed my attention yet.

[jonebone]

Maybe next year, not much in the launch lineup that really catches my eye. Big fan of the DeadRising series but not enough to cough up $500 + $60 to play it on day one.

[Atarileaf]

nope but i may get a ps3 in the next few months if i find a model i like at a good price

[Atarileaf]

double post sorry

[Gamevet]

I'll use the money for a second EVGA GTX 670 FTW! and sli it with my current card.

I had bought the PS3 about 6 months after its release and didn't have much to play after the 1st month. I'll wait a year for the library to get somewhat better, before I purchase a PS4. Until then, it's PC, PS3 and 360.

[sparf]

Not picking up an XBox One anytime in the first three years or so. Not until I'm sure they don't flip the switch on the 'no borrowed/used games' code or 'Kinect will watch to make sure you aren't having too many people in the room watching a movie' nonsense that they're allegedly removing. They backpedaled so hard it was comical but I don't believe the idea has left them. So we'll see.

PS4 is much more likely, much earlier. But I'm not going to be buying anything at launch either way until I see some killer software I want. I bought a Gamecube at launch (and won an XBox from Taco Bell at the same time), but that was the last time I was launch-ready for a console. In the meantime I have a ton of retro stuff to acquire and play through. :)

[Zthun]

I'll probably wait 5 years until the end of the life-cycle. That way, I can get all kinds of new games for around $20 and so, and I can get the latest models of the systems. I've got so many games on my backlog that will never get played if I get a new system, that it personally wouldn't be worth it for me.

[Haoie]

I'm always 1 gen behind, so I'll be in the market for a PS3 soon. Already got 20 games for it! With no way to play them yet, haha.

[Rickstilwell1]

This gen that is being phased out was different for me because it was all about backward compatibility, digital re-releases and all kinds of goodies the likes of which had never been done before. That made it so tempting to jump on the new consoles immediately because each of them was designed to be a multimedia device or at least store games on themselves. The handhelds were so much more sophisticated than anything before them too.

This generation there are some fancy apps on the consoles themselves but from a storage and hardware standpoint they aren't doing much new until you get into the online territory. So this time I'm not buying a PS4 just to initially be used as "infinity memory cards for PS1 & PS2 with wireless controller in addition to being the new system" or a Wii U just to try Neo Geo and TurboGrafx-16 games without buying those systems like I did for the Wii.

This time around it has to be for the games themselves rather than the hardware. Since I barely played any of the current gen's games and used the consoles mostly for BC and hardware tech, it is probably going to be a "no" for a while until I play catch up on what I already bought. The only new system that has had releases I get hyped up about that much is the 3DS. I'm totally stoked on The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 2 whenever that comes out even though the series has been dead to me ever since they created Toon Link. I am happy to see that kiddie version of Link disappear at least for a little while if not for good.

[SuperEliteGamer]

Yes,i'm getting a PS4,and two friends are getting XBOX One

[LiquidPolicenaut]

I have my PS4 preordered but, honestly, I'm still hesitant about getting one. This is the least excited I have been for a console launch and I have been through quite a few of them! lol Plus, I still have a good many games to play on the PS3 with 4 of them being in within a month of each other (KH, GTA V, Beyond, and Arkham Origins). Well, I still got a few weeks to make a final decision...

[WCP]

My biggest worry with this new generation of hardware, is that they are underpowered compared to what we normally get each time we jump to a new generation. What I mean by this, is that this is the first time, in a very long time, that the big companies (Sony & Microsoft), have decided to go with more off the shelf type parts, instead of trying to create some custom rig specially designed to pump out amazing graphics and sounds. Basically, both Sony and Microsoft kinda gave up on the tech race, and they are going with these cheaper, off the shelf parts.

Because of this, for the first time that I can remember, a $800 PC will have more gaming power than either of these machines. This has NEVER happened before. If you go back to November 2005, and November 2006, a $800 PC couldn't touch a 360 or PS3. You had to spend closer to 2 grand to outperform a 360 or PS3 when they first showed up on the scene. However, with the PS4 and Xbox One, you can build a $800 PC that can pretty handily outperform the Xbox One and PS4.


I know, I know... Who cares about raw power ? As long as the games are good, we shouldn't really care about all the flash and sizzle. Still, when you're getting a brand new next-gen system, you expect to see something that is going to knock your socks off. I remember the first time I saw the NBA 2K game running on the Xbox 360, and you could see the virtual sweat running down the players faces. I know it's pretty much a gimmick that didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it was one of those "Wow, did you see that shit?" type moments that you expect when you've got a brand new next-gen system. I remember when Dead Rising and Oblivion came out early in 2006, and both of those games really blew me away from a technological standpoint. Seeing hundreds of zombies on screen simultaneously, and seeing the amazingly huge open world that was created in Oblivion.

I worry that we aren't going to get that "oooh, look at that, it's amazing!" factor that we got in previous generations.


I will admit that a big part of this problem for me is self-inflicted. I was already bored of the 360 and PS3 a couple of years ago, and decided to build a gaming PC, so I could play the 360 and PS3 games at much higher resolutions and with better frame rates. So, I've been playing games like Crysis 2 on my PC, running special super high-rez texture mods to make everything super Purdy. I kinda feel like I've already been playing the PS4 or Xbox One, after playing Crysis 2 on PC with the Maldo 4.0 mod. For the normal console gamer, that has only experienced the 360 and PS3, they probably will get more of the "wow" factor than I will. So, most of this is my own fault.

[Bojay1997]

My biggest worry with this new generation of hardware, is that they are underpowered compared to what we normally get each time we jump to a new generation. What I mean by this, is that this is the first time, in a very long time, that the big companies (Sony & Microsoft), have decided to go with more off the shelf type parts, instead of trying to create some custom rig specially designed to pump out amazing graphics and sounds. Basically, both Sony and Microsoft kinda gave up on the tech race, and they are going with these cheaper, off the shelf parts.

Because of this, for the first time that I can remember, a $800 PC will have more gaming power than either of these machines. This has NEVER happened before. If you go back to November 2005, and November 2006, a $800 PC couldn't touch a 360 or PS3. You had to spend closer to 2 grand to outperform a 360 or PS3 when they first showed up on the scene. However, with the PS4 and Xbox One, you can build a $800 PC that can pretty handily outperform the Xbox One and PS4.


I know, I know... Who cares about raw power ? As long as the games are good, we shouldn't really care about all the flash and sizzle. Still, when you're getting a brand new next-gen system, you expect to see something that is going to knock your socks off. I remember the first time I saw the NBA 2K game running on the Xbox 360, and you could see the virtual sweat running down the players faces. I know it's pretty much a gimmick that didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it was one of those "Wow, did you see that shit?" type moments that you expect when you've got a brand new next-gen system. I remember when Dead Rising and Oblivion came out early in 2006, and both of those games really blew me away from a technological standpoint. Seeing hundreds of zombies on screen simultaneously, and seeing the amazingly huge open world that was created in Oblivion.

I worry that we aren't going to get that "oooh, look at that, it's amazing!" factor that we got in previous generations.


I will admit that a big part of this problem for me is self-inflicted. I was already bored of the 360 and PS3 a couple of years ago, and decided to build a gaming PC, so I could play the 360 and PS3 games at much higher resolutions and with better frame rates. So, I've been playing games like Crysis 2 on my PC, running special super high-rez texture mods to make everything super Purdy. I kinda feel like I've already been playing the PS4 or Xbox One, after playing Crysis 2 on PC with the Maldo 4.0 mod. For the normal console gamer, that has only experienced the 360 and PS3, they probably will get more of the "wow" factor than I will. So, most of this is my own fault.

To be fair, the past generation didn't exactly deliver a massive leap in performance beyond what the previous generation did. In fact, I haven't been really blown away by console performance since probably the Playstation/3do/Saturn era. The PC has been at least as capable or more capable than consoles since at least the late 80s. You're correct that the price differential between consoles and equal or better PCs is lower now, but that's true of almost every consumer technology as a result of the massive expansion of cheap production in China and advances in R&D. We're rapidly approaching a time when the ability of designers and programmers to take full advantage of hardware capabilities becomes constrained more by time and budget than some limitation in the hardware itself. Frankly, that's both a very exciting and a somewhat scary place to be in video game history.

[buzz_n64]

I might get a PS4 in 3-4 years when the price drops down to about $200. I bought my PS3 at that price.

[WCP]

To be fair, the past generation didn't exactly deliver a massive leap in performance beyond what the previous generation did. In fact, I haven't been really blown away by console performance since probably the Playstation/3do/Saturn era.

If you go back and play OG Xbox and PS2 games, you'll realize that the leap was actually pretty significant. Although open world type games could be done on the original Xbox and the PS2, the 360 and PS3 era took open world gaming to a whole new level. It's like night and day if you compare the old ones on PS2 and Xbox, and what we are getting now. There are also lots of little things that we take for granted now, that are commonplace now, that they couldn't do in the previous gen. Just think about a game like Dead Rising where they could have tons and tons of zombies on screen. That wasn't possible on the previous gen, not to that degree. I know that putting hundreds of zombies on screen isn't the biggest achievement in the world or anything, but it's lots of little things like that. Look at Heavy Rain on the PS3, and compare it to Indigo Prophecy on the Xbox.

I will agree, that the jump wasn't nearly as big as previous generations, and I will also agree that the 3DO provided one of the most jarring jumps in graphical performance. Going from playing SNES and Genesis games to playing a game like Crash N Burn, with it's texture mapped raceways, and pixelated clouds drifting by in the skies, was a huge revelation in late 1993. I mean, we are talking about late 1993 when Crash N Burn was released with the 3DO. That was some serious next-gen jump right there, comparing that game to 16 bit games of the time. I played Crash N Burn at a buddies house back in November 1993, and I felt like I stepped into the future or something. I mean, I was playing some misc. Genesis platformer, and I go over to his house and see Crash N Burn running on a big giant Mitsubishi, and it was like.... "DAMN ! That is some serious next-gen right there ! ". The game might seem horrible now, but to somebody in late 1993, is was as jaw dropping as they get. It seemed like an Arcade game in your house. That was the first time that it really felt like a legit high-end Arcade game in your house, it was so far beyond the current consoles.

[Goblin]

I've got both on pre-order, but may end up canceling the XB. Really haven't decided yet, but I am getting excited about the PS4. My original thought was to try and flip one or both and then wait until next year to get one to keep. With XB1 launch consoles still available that thought probably isn't a good one, hence why I may cancel. I sat out the last generation since I didn't have an HD TV until about a year ago so at this point I am jumping into this generation early. Once it arrives I just don't think I can resist waiting to give this to the family over Christmas, and we host a house full of company during Thanksgiving so I think I need to keep the PS4. I really don't know what to pick as as far as launch titles. Any suggestions?

[Bojay1997]

If you go back and play OG Xbox and PS2 games, you'll realize that the leap was actually pretty significant. Although open world type games could be done on the original Xbox and the PS2, the 360 and PS3 era took open world gaming to a whole new level. It's like night and day if you compare the old ones on PS2 and Xbox, and what we are getting now. There are also lots of little things that we take for granted now, that are commonplace now, that they couldn't do in the previous gen. Just think about a game like Dead Rising where they could have tons and tons of zombies on screen. That wasn't possible on the previous gen, not to that degree. I know that putting hundreds of zombies on screen isn't the biggest achievement in the world or anything, but it's lots of little things like that. Look at Heavy Rain on the PS3, and compare it to Indigo Prophecy on the Xbox.

I will agree, that the jump wasn't nearly as big as previous generations, and I will also agree that the 3DO provided one of the most jarring jumps in graphical performance. Going from playing SNES and Genesis games to playing a game like Crash N Burn, with it's texture mapped raceways, and pixelated clouds drifting by in the skies, was a huge revelation in late 1993. I mean, we are talking about late 1993 when Crash N Burn was released with the 3DO. That was some serious next-gen jump right there, comparing that game to 16 bit games of the time. I played Crash N Burn at a buddies house back in November 1993, and I felt like I stepped into the future or something. I mean, I was playing some misc. Genesis platformer, and I go over to his house and see Crash N Burn running on a big giant Mitsubishi, and it was like.... "DAMN ! That is some serious next-gen right there ! ". The game might seem horrible now, but to somebody in late 1993, is was as jaw dropping as they get. It seemed like an Arcade game in your house. That was the first time that it really felt like a legit high-end Arcade game in your house, it was so far beyond the current consoles.

Strongly disagree. I still play my Xbox and PS2 on a fairly regular basis. The Xbox in particular is not that far off from the capabilities of the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS3 and 360 can push more elements around and the graphics are more detailed, but gameplay wise it's not a very large difference. Many of the popular series on the 360 and PS3 originated on the Xbox and PS2. I just think this will be a similar incremental improvement and frankly, it's going to be good enough for most of us.

[WCP]

Strongly disagree. I still play my Xbox and PS2 on a fairly regular basis. The Xbox in particular is not that far off from the capabilities of the Xbox 360 and PS3. Sure, the PS3 and 360 can push more elements around and the graphics are more detailed, but gameplay wise it's not a very large difference. Many of the popular series on the 360 and PS3 originated on the Xbox and PS2. I just think this will be a similar incremental improvement and frankly, it's going to be good enough for most of us.

Compare Skyrim and Fallout 3 to Morrowind on the original Xbox. I think there is a huge improvement in the open world genre. The previous systems could barely handle those games, and games like Red Dead Redemption, Skyrim, Fallout 3, GTA IV, Infamous 1 & 2, Crackdown, etc, etc... Big improvements came for the open world genre. Maybe not so much in other genres, except just being prettier.

[Bojay1997]

Compare Skyrim and Fallout 3 to Morrowind on the original Xbox. I think there is a huge improvement in the open world genre. The previous systems could barely handle those games, and games like Red Dead Redemption, Skyrim, Fallout 3, GTA IV, Infamous 1 & 2, Crackdown, etc, etc... Big improvements came for the open world genre. Maybe not so much in other genres, except just being prettier.

The difference is really not huge IMHO. GTA III was pretty massive and so were Morrowind and games like KOTOR 1 & 2 among others. I think the difference you saw was a huge growth in the popularity of open world games and the budgets to match in this most recent generation. GTA IV could have been done on Xbox and PS2 as well, it just wouldn't have looked as nice.

[The 1 2 P]

I was thinking about getting an XBO for launch but I've never really bought any system for launch. But I'm definitely looking to get one in the first few years. Next year alone it will have Halo 5, Titanfall and Destiny among others. As for the PS4, definitely not impressed with anything Sony has shown for it. Like this gen I'll most likely end up having all three systems at some point but I won't be getting a PS4 until I find a cheap one used from craigs list as I did with all three of my PS3's.

[Robocop2]

I'm not sure I've been less excited for a launch for quite some time honestly. It may be partly the backlog of stuff I still have that I want to play through for this gen. You can argue that BC doesn't sell systems; but if it were present with the big 2; I'd probably jump sooner into the next generation of systems.

[kainemaxwell]

PS4 possibly once the bugs and kinks are worked out.

[DiEsmitty]

I just got an email from Amazon canceling my PS4 launch day bundle. There stated reason was that they cant ship to my region. I am pissed. I made the preorder with them ages ago and they just now noticed. Sent them an angry email, I have two addresses on file with them a US address for billing and a Japanese address for shipping. If they took the time to notify me, I could have them sent it to my US address, but nope I lost my preorder.

[kupomogli]

That sucks. Maybe you could contact them to set it back up with your US billing address instead. I've just noticed a news post where they changed a lot of standard editions to launch editions, so they might not be able to now unfortunately.

[DiEsmitty]

I am trying to, my issue is being kicked upstairs to management. Im pissed but I got a stack of PS3 games to play, and Im getting a Wii U when the price drops. If I have to Ill wait to February when the release locally.

[Neb6]

Let me begin by saying that:
1) I'm not a big on-line gamer.
2) I don't use motion detection devices to play games.
3) I used to sell PCs over 10 years and did I.T. work for 5 years after that.
4) There aren't any games that I'm waiting for (i.e. no killer app for me to run on either new console)

1990 to 2000 saw a massive increase in CPU and GPU performance and evolution. Then we started to hit the limits of silicon. As has been already mentioned on here, the leaps in console (and computer) technology have been diminishing with each new system.

Personally, I don't see the PS4 or XBO to be significant enough jump in technology for me to bite. If a game comes out that really gets my attention (like the greatest mech simulator ever made) then I might consider getting one of the new consoles.

You might wonder why I don't run out any buy a PC to cover my gaming needs. Well, its because I hate fixing and configuring PCs. I've done too much of that in the work world and I don't need the hassle. I like consoles because the hardware and software is standardized and tested. You insert the game and start playing. Simple as that.

The other sticking point with me is that I look at consoles as CONSOLES. i.e. Machines designed for the express purpose of playing games -- using hardware that is CUSTOM F**King designed to run games. No Windows 8, multi-OS, or any of that other nonsense. Using an AMD CPU makes both machines a bit too closely related to a PC. That's a bias on my part and I admit it. However, over the years, the non-Intel and non-AMD configurations have run the games that I enjoyed the most. Maybe I'm imagining things, but that's how I perceive it.

So for me, I think someone needs to make a new console (not that I expect that to happen).

Conclusion: I'm going to sit back, observe, and wait.

[PreZZ]

Just saw Knack gameplay from TGS, it does run smoothly but it looks like a ps3 game... you can see the polygons on a rounded railway on a street, not much more detail IMO, and the gameplay looks repetitive too. I was hyped about this exclusive, now i'll wait for a review.

[WCP]

Just saw Knack gameplay from TGS, it does run smoothly but it looks like a ps3 game...

Ouch.


Yeah, this could be a bit of a problem for next-gen. It's going to be hard for Joe Sixpack to really see whats so special about these new systems, when the games don't really demonstrate a huge jump forward. If you have a huge 60 inch 1080p flatscreen that you just bought in the last couple of years, you'll probably see a nice improvement, but the average Joe Sixpack, with an older 720p HDTV from 2007 isn't going to see this night and day improvement.


It's going to be an issue. We'll have to see what Sony and Microsoft do, to try to combat a potential apathy from the non hardcore.

[M.Buster2184]

Tough question. I was all gung ho about the PS4 but sadly realized there weren't any launch games I was interested in. On the other hand I wasn't interested in the Xbone at all except now there are some launch games that look pretty good to me, Titan Fall and Crimson Dragon off the top of my head. But I'm sure I'll end up waiting, for now I'm content with my Wii U and PS3.

[YoshiM]

Like Neb6, I too sold computers and I currently work in IT. My main PC rig, which was purchased mainly for video editing back in 2008 can play most modern games pretty decent with my middle road ATI card. I started dabbling in PC gaming again and have a decent collection of titles to play thanks to insane Steam and Bundle deals.

Problem is, I work on these things 8-9 hours a day and then to get my game on, when there's time, I don't wanna sit in front of a computer. I also have personal work I gotta do as well (finances, writing, video, stuff like that) that in my mind its a "work" machine, not a "play" machine. However I can't ignore how good PC games look.

So I'm in a quandary- do I jump next gen/WiiU or do I ride the storm and see? I'm leaning more towards PS4 (and I used to loathe Playstation-still not fond of the controller) but if my daughter, who should be tall enough for Kinect likes it, do I Bone it up?

I've also got this "eh, same games I play now but prettier" mentality lately, which is dumb because I could say that to past "next gen's".

[YoshiM]

Gah...stupidphone double post

[PizzaKat]

I was pretty hyped of getting a PS4. Would be my first console launch. But seeing the lack of games I decided to wait down the road. The only game that would probably make me buy one would be a new Resident Evil. I know a lot of people didn't enjoy the 6th one, but I loved it. I have too many games in the backlog such as PS1 Ps2 Gamecube Ps3 360 etc. This gen didn't really wow me with the games that I bought. Shooters don't care much. I do like Killzone and Bioshock but the last Bioshock was a huge letdown.

I thought I enjoyed Rayman Origins since it was a platformer, that was boring. I don't care for the GTA series. So there really is no point in buying one now. Another Capcom fighter would be nice Capcom vs SNK or Tatsunoko vs Capcom even though the latter would never happen.

[Neb6]

I was pretty hyped of getting a PS4. Would be my first console launch. But seeing the lack of games I decided to wait down the road. The only game that would probably make me buy one would be a new Resident Evil. I know a lot of people didn't enjoy the 6th one, but I loved it. I have too many games in the backlog such as PS1 Ps2 Gamecube Ps3 360 etc. This gen didn't really wow me with the games that I bought. Shooters don't care much. I do like Killzone and Bioshock but the last Bioshock was a huge letdown.

I thought I enjoyed Rayman Origins since it was a platformer, that was boring. I don't care for the GTA series. So there really is no point in buying one now. Another Capcom fighter would be nice Capcom vs SNK or Tatsunoko vs Capcom even though the latter would never happen.

You raise a good point. I think console sales would really pick up if there was more variety in types of games. Looks like games are getting as narrow-focused as movies. I recall reading a film textbook from the 90s saying that movies would soon become more formulaic and we'd be seeing more and more sequels (due to investors demanding return on investment from properties that have a 'proven' track record. I.e. The last movie of that type sold well, so maybe a clone of it will too). I get the feeling that's what we've been handed for games lately.

Atari had a good thing going in the early years. They gave their game developers tons of latitude. Then there was SEGA's game development team for the Dreamcast. I read in interviews that talked about the work environments for both companies during their more inventive years. Pretty awesome. They were given pretty much complete autonomy and control over their projects. Essentially, make stuff -- no matter how crazy. E.g. the programmer of Tempest telling his boss that he had a nightmare with creatures crawling out of a tunnel and how he'd like to make a game out of it. The attitude was, Sure. Maybe it'll sell. Go for it.

[WCP]

So, just when I was started to get a bit depressed about how next-gen doesn't seem like a very big leap at all, I see this picture:


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/3202329/infamous_second_son_lighting.jpg



Now, that is some real Next-Gen power right there. Infamous Second Son continues to be my most anticipated video game (until Fallout 4 is announced :) ) Look at that color ! Look at those reflections ! Look at the wet pavement glistening with the reflections of neon light.... Man, I need this game in my eyesockets right now!

[Gentlegamer]

I'm getting the PS4. It will be my first new system at launch since the SNES.

[zakthedodo]

Probably not as I'm planning to buy my first PS3 as soon as the next price drop happens.
I learned after the 16 bit consoles sputtered out that the best time to collect for any system is just as it's winding down.

Consoles can still be found new ( Like a Nomad for 40 bucks ), the good games are known as well as the ones to avoid and you really can't get price gouged.
Also if the systems themselves have a defect, what models to avoid and so on.

i would like to buy one, but unless I can pay for it outright, I can't really consider it.
I grew up on Atari and NES so even ps2 graphics look pretty darn impressive to me.

[WCP]

I'm getting the PS4. It will be my first new system at launch since the SNES.


Wow, that's a hell of a launch drought. We are talking about late August 1991 till November 2013. That's a pretty long stretch of time.

I was lucky enough to also get the SNES at it's launch. What a glorious time that was. Super Mario World in the box. I could literally play that game for the next 5 or 6 months. And it was FREE in the box ! Those were the good old days. (don't even get me started on the SNES games that were available during the launch window... there were some serious heavy hitters if you could deal with a wee bit of slowdown here and there..)

[jefis]

Well to be honest I'm going to buy an PS3 instead of PS4. Why? Because there are dozens of really great games that I've missed this generation and it could take me years to play them all.
Also the graphics comparison isn't that big of a difference, because this generation already had really good graphics, and I don't see much difference between this and next generation consoles.
Also there won't be that many great games at next generation launch, than there are this generation games + almost every game on PS4 will be available to PS3, so I'm not going to miss anything.

[WCP]

Well to be honest I'm going to buy an PS3 instead of PS4. almost every game on PS4 will be available to PS3, so I'm not going to miss anything.


1. If you're going to buy a PS3, my advice would be to go the cheapo route via Craigslist. Try to find a used slim in good cond. with a bunch of key games for $150. Don't go buying some deluxe new version with tax and everything and spending $250 or anything like that, because you might as well cough up the extra money to get a PS4. Remember, the PS4 is $399.99, not $500. It's within reach.

2. I don't see how you think PS4 games will also be on PS3. Maybe the multiplats that are cross gen, but those aren't the next-gen games that people are really going to be interested in anyways. In February, I think you might regret your decision to go PS3 instead of PS4. I do agree that the launch games are weak, but in February, when Infamous Second Son comes out.... I think you'll regret your decision man


Still, if you can get a good working PS3 for under $150 with a couple of games, I can see the appeal in that. If you're spending like $250 on a bunch of PS3 stuff, I think you're making a mistake, cause for just another $150 you can step into a whole new generation.

[jefis]

1. If you're going to buy a PS3, my advice would be to go the cheapo route via Craigslist. Try to find a used slim in good cond. with a bunch of key games for $150. Don't go buying some deluxe new version with tax and everything and spending $250 or anything like that, because you might as well cough up the extra money to get a PS4. Remember, the PS4 is $399.99, not $500. It's within reach.

2. I don't see how you think PS4 games will also be on PS3. Maybe the multiplats that are cross gen, but those aren't the next-gen games that people are really going to be interested in anyways. In February, I think you might regret your decision to go PS3 instead of PS4. I do agree that the launch games are weak, but in February, when Infamous Second Son comes out.... I think you'll regret your decision man


Still, if you can get a good working PS3 for under $150 with a couple of games, I can see the appeal in that. If you're spending like $250 on a bunch of PS3 stuff, I think you're making a mistake, cause for just another $150 you can step into a whole new generation.

I understand what you are saying, but I totally missed this generations greatest games. Well my little brother has a PS3, and I did finish GTA IV and Uncharted (the first one), and played bunch of other games. But to be honest theres still so many great games on the system that I want to try out and complete. Here's my must buy list:
GTA V
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham City
BioShock
BioShock 2
BioShock Infinite
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
God of War III
Just Cause 2
L.A. Noire
Max Payne 3
Rayman Origins
Red Dead Redemption
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus Collection
The Last of Us
Tomb Raider
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Hitman: Absolution
Saints Row IV
The Walking Dead: 400 Days
Metro: Last Light
Far Cry 3
Rayman Legends
Rage
Borderlands 2
Dark Souls
Dead Space
Dead Space 2
Dishonored
Heavy Rain
inFamous
inFamous 2
Journey
Mass Efect 2
Mass Efect 3: Citadel
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Portal
Portal 2
Saints Row: The Third
Sleeping Dogs
Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City
The Saboteur
Vanquish
Bayonetta
Gran Turismo 5
Resident Evil 5
Darksiders II
Mafia II
Dragon's Dogma
I am Alive
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
DmC: Devil May Cry
Silent Hill: Downpour
Wet
Assassin's Creed
Assassin's Creed II
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
Assassin's Creed III
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Destiny
Watch Dogs
Dead Island
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Gran Turismo 6
BioShock Infinite: Burial at Sea

[Scotterpop]

I'm adopting a "wait and see" attitude myself. Once the bugs are worked out of these systems I'll consider picking one up, but definitely not until then. But the PS4 is looking like the obvious choice for me this next generation. I loved the original Xbox as well as the 360, but the Xbone dev and marketing team seem to have no freaking clue how to sell us on this thing. For one thing, the name is going to come back to bite them on the ass. You don't go from Xbox to Xbox 360, then back to One. Just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I know that they're angling this whole "one box to rule them all" LOTR-style mentality in the title, but how much cooler and appealing does "Infinity" sound? Look at the problems the Wii-U is facing, and wether they want to admit it or not, part of the problem is the name. "Wii" is esoteric enough, but just slapping another meaningless letter (and a hyphen, no less... ugh...) onto it makes it the vaguest console name ever. My point is that the name should imply progression or fire your imagination. It should make you believe in the possibilities of this new technology. Maybe I'm overthinking this point, but I believe it's an important consideration for someone browsing the toy and electronics aisles at Christmas time. Other than the admittedly very good looking exclusives, the new Xbox just doesn't appeal to me at all. At this point it looks like Sony's got the next gen in the bag.

[ReaXan]

I have a WiiU mainly for my platformers/shumps along with a high end PC gaming rig for my fps's,strategy games so I am really trying to decide if the PS4/One really would bring anything new to the table I haven't already experienced in gaming already.

I could easily afford either at launch yet being a married 30 year old gamer is alot different than being a 20 year old single guy with time to engross myself into gaming. Coming home from work and trying to be good at games that 14 year olds have mastered all day long take alot of fun out of what's left of my time. It just makes me feel old and frustrated that I have the cash to buy any game I want finally but can't enjoy them like I once did...

After dealing the 360 and its hardware issues along the simple fact that you have to pay to play online really put a bad taste in my mouth with the direction of console gaming going into the future. Most of my college years I found myself at gamestop buying games for the 360 that I ended up just buying "hoping" I would play. The only games I really enjoyed in the past generation was Red Dead Redemption and Skyrim. This summer I bought Dishonored, Resident Evil 6 and Revelations and they are just sitting on my shelf with me knowing in the back of my mind that I will never play them and I don't have the heart to trade them in as I will get like 5 bucks after having spent 30/40 bucks on each. It's like I am forcing myself to game instead of it just being natural like it once was at one time in my life.

Added to all this is that the market is def different now than it was in the 80's and 90's when computers where still insanely high and alot of people were forced to console game exclusively. There are more options now and PC gaming already shows what direction consoles will take at this point in the game.

I am not saying that PS4/One won't be successful, as they both probably will. I just feel alot of guys my age will probably buy one and it end up as a Netflix machine when all is said and done.

[otaku]

I am consoleless and have been for 6 months now last having a wii. I'd like a 360/ps3 to tide me over till I can afford a ps4 and xbox one but at their current price points they're a bit spendy with far fewer games available to enjoy I have 20 games I need to finish on ps3 before I get a newer console and intend to trade the ps3 towards a ps4 once done.

[kupomogli]

Here's my must buy list:
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Silent Hill: Downpour
Dead Island


I'd recommend to get the cheap games and wait until the newer ones drop in price. If you're going to get Skyrim on the PS3, get the Game of the Year version since the patch that fixes the framerate issue is on disc. Don't get Silent Hill Downpour on any console because the framerate is garbage. Also don't get the PS3 version of Dead Island which has framerate issues with the game even hitting 0fps on a regular basis and massive amount of screen tearing.

[jefis]

I'd recommend to get the cheap games and wait until the newer ones drop in price. If you're going to get Skyrim on the PS3, get the Game of the Year version since the patch that fixes the framerate issue is on disc. Don't get Silent Hill Downpour on any console because the framerate is garbage. Also don't get the PS3 version of Dead Island which has framerate issues with the game even hitting 0fps on a regular basis and massive amount of screen tearing.

Thanks for the tip!

[Neb6]

I understand what you are saying, but I totally missed this generations greatest games. Well my little brother has a PS3, and I did finish GTA IV and Uncharted (the first one), and played bunch of other games. But to be honest theres still so many great games on the system that I want to try out and complete. Here's my must buy list:
...
BioShock
BioShock 2
BioShock Infinite
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
...


Bioshock 2 Bioshock 2 Bioshock 2 !!! I can't say enough about this game. Man, talk about killer art direction and sound design.

Portal 2 was also a nice surprise.


Happy collecting!

[Neb6]

Since it's now November, I ought to state for the record that if I did actually decide to jump in and get a next-gen console, it would be the PlayStation 4.

That would make it the first time I've ever opted for a Sony platform at launch.

I really like my XBOX 360 but I think Sony has it nailed down really well this time.

[Rickstilwell1]

Well to be honest I'm going to buy an PS3 instead of PS4. Why? Because there are dozens of really great games that I've missed this generation and it could take me years to play them all.
Also the graphics comparison isn't that big of a difference, because this generation already had really good graphics, and I don't see much difference between this and next generation consoles.
Also there won't be that many great games at next generation launch, than there are this generation games + almost every game on PS4 will be available to PS3, so I'm not going to miss anything.

We're mostly all retro gamers here so I don't see this as a bad idea at all. Most of the PS3 library is already cheap and when the PS4 comes out even some of the newer games will go down in price. By the time you get around to PS4 you'll have a lot more used games to pick from and save a lot of money by not being one of the people who has to have it now. It worked that way for every system before, it still works that way thanks to people stating their opinions to the game companies.

[JSoup]

About two months since my last post on this subject and not much has changed. My partner and I discussed trying to get a PS4 on Black Friday, as certain stores are advertising them at $250, but I'm still more interested in repairing/replacing our gaming PC. And with the new WoW expansion announced a few hours ago, I'm thinking that's going to be a better use of our entertainment funds until the PS4 drops to a price we can agree on.

[Bojay1997]

About two months since my last post on this subject and not much has changed. My partner and I discussed trying to get a PS4 on Black Friday, as certain stores are advertising them at $250, but I'm still more interested in repairing/replacing our gaming PC. And with the new WoW expansion announced a few hours ago, I'm thinking that's going to be a better use of our entertainment funds until the PS4 drops to a price we can agree on.

No stores are advertising the PS4 at $250. In fact, none of the ads released thus far have the PS4 or Xbox One for anything but full MSRP. Heck, none of the ads even have any sales on PS4 or Xbox One games. You will not see an Xbox One or PS4 under MSRP in the next few months, guaranteed.

[JSoup]

No stores are advertising the PS4 at $250. In fact, none of the ads released thus far have the PS4 or Xbox One for anything but full MSRP. Heck, none of the ads even have any sales on PS4 or Xbox One games. You will not see an Xbox One or PS4 under MSRP in the next few months, guaranteed.

Was on Slickdeals about a week ago, topic was removed via direct request to the site admin due to a shifting sales deal with the distributor. It was being planned, there is substantial proof of that. If it's going to happen or not...probably not.

Edit: Even then, I can still get one cheaper than sales price before Christmas. I've never failed to find a new system on Craigslist or other shadier channels for less than current market value leading up to a major holiday. It's all about persistence.

[Bojay1997]

Was on Slickdeals about a week ago, topic was removed via direct request to the site admin due to a shifting sales deal with the distributor. It was being planned, there is substantial proof of that. If it's going to happen or not...probably not.

I can guarantee there was no proof of that. There has never been a Black Friday deal for $150 off a newly launched console. Heck, Sony is selling PS3 bundles for $200 on BF, so there is no way they would cut the price on their new flagship to within $50 of that. I suppose it's possible that someone posted it as a joke or scam perhaps in an attempt to engage in some anti-Sony fanboyism, but that just isn't going to happen.

[JSoup]

I can guarantee there was no proof of that.

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

[Bojay1997]

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

It's not an issue of opinion, so agreeing to disagree doesn't apply. It's a factual claim that you made that is able to decisively be proven or not proven, so please, show me the proof. Otherwise, admit that you made the whole thing up.

[JSoup]

Edit: Nah....unproductive post is unproductive.

[Bojay1997]

Edit: Nah....unproductive post is unproductive.

I get it, when I was a kid I used to lie to impress people too. Luckily the Internet wasn't available to the public back then, so people couldn't call me out on it. Just a little tip about the Internet, when something is posted, even if it is taken down almost immediately, it still gets indexed and references to it will appear on other sites. I'm very active on CAG and Slickdeals and so I'm certain that something like this didn't get posted at either place and if it did, nobody would have believed it because a discount of that magnitude has never happened on a brand new console that's basically sold out already and will be difficult to find for at least the next few months.

[JSoup]

Edit: Nope. Someone has to be the bigger man in these stupid ass arguments, I'm taking the initiative.

[scaryice]

Nobody is going to sell it for $250. Don't believe everything you read.

[JSoup]

Nobody is going to sell it for $250. Don't believe everything you read.

You can make an argument for a store not doing that, but to make a blanket claim that no one will is flat out foolish. There were PS3s going for $400 two days after launch on Craigslist.

No real point in me arguing it past this point, you're all going to believe what you believe. While there are other things I'd rather spend the money on, I'll admit that it's tempting to get one for cheap just to rub it in a few faces, but that's NA quality behavior.

[WCP]

Target is doing a B2G1 deal on PS4 games (I think it actually works with any video games they carry), during I think November 10th thru the 16th, or something like that. Check this Sunday's Target flier to get the deets.


I'm planning on picking up a PS4 and a Xbox One, but I must admit that in the back of my mind I'm making a mistake. I know my $900 would be better spent building a killer PC, but oh well, I'm a new hardware junkie and I have streaks to uphold. I've never missed launch day on a Sony or Microsoft home console. All 5 were purchased on day one, and the streak ain't gonna come to an end this year. (my Nintendo streak came to an end last year, and that one dated back to 1991)


I'm a bit worried that these new consoles are relatively lame in the power department. I'm not sure that I'm going to be saying "Holy Shit" a lot, because I'm so blown away by the next-gen games. I've seen some things that have made me sit up and notice, but I haven't seen anything that's truly blown my hair back. Infamous Second Son could be the game that does it for me, but that game is late February and could end up delayed till June or something.

[Greg2600]

No retail store will be selling the PS4 or XBONE under the MSRP. That's crazy. If anything they *could* bundle games or accessories with your purchase.

[Mangar]

I bought a 60gb PS3 at launch for three reasons. In order of importance they were...

1. It played Blu-Rays: At the time of launch, the PS3 was the single best Blu-Ray player on the market. By a very large margin. Pretty much every other standalone Blu-Ray player at the time, had a myriad of issues regarding video display, and more drastically sound reproduction. IE: If you had a Home Theater, and wanted to take advantage of your superior sound/speakers... The only game in town was the PS3, at least at the time of launch. Not to mention, that Blu-Ray player prices were rather high, making the Ps3 more attractive since if you are going to spend 300-400$+ anyway, why not just go slightly higher and get a product that does other things.

2. Near 100% Backwards Compatibility with PS2 games: I owned an Xbox, and skipped a PS2. This purchase allowed me to open up a whole new library of excellent games, I had otherwise never had a chance to play. This was really important to me at the time, and honestly I still use this feature now. I literally was playing "Culdcept" like an hour ago.

3. Actual PS3 Games: Playing the actual PS3 games was good too, but were it not for the other two options.. I'd have definitely waited at least a year prior to purchase. More importantly, I'd have probably purchased an Xbox 360 instead, because after a year it was rather clear that all my friends had Xboxes, and if I wanted to play with them online - There was only one option. (I never did buy the Xbox 360)

With that said: I'm not buying any of these consoles at launch. I have a Home Theater PC in my living room, which I use for movies, music, and retro gaming. Not to mention, that it's powerful enough for modern PC games, which include a good deal of the high end console versions. Neither of these offer any compelling reason for me to buy them at launch. There is no real "killer app" that I can't wait for, and on games that the PC also has - The PC versions tend to offer better support and such. For example: The only reason to have a non-PC version of Skyrim, is because you can play it in your living room. My HTPC negates that reason completely.

So yeah, I'm waiting. No real rush.. Worst case scenario, I can sit back... see which console has the most 3rd party support, best games, more active online community, AND save 100$+ as a result.

[nickerous]

Neither for me. Like many others, I have a huge backlog of games to play through. Right now, the nvidia shield interests me more than ps4 or xbox one. I wont get that either, though, since they said something about another shield as early as 2014.