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Tanooki
09-14-2015, 01:57 PM
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I guess you're disagreeing on the back of the carts. Just let it be known I have switched some, I will not report it, I don't even commit it to memory, and I know there are a lot of people who do this too, even from polling in the past on NA. Sometimes there's a line too far when it gets into being silly and we won't agree on where that is. :)
I'm fine with it if the back is completely destroyed that it affects functionality, but swapping it so the condition is better so one can mark up the price I'm not cool with.
Pikkon
09-14-2015, 03:43 PM
If you switch the back with a identical one that's in better condition I see nothing wrong with that,even asking a higher price is no big deal.
leatherrebel5150
09-14-2015, 06:56 PM
Just though Id throw this out there
http://vintage.nintendoage.com/auth/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=51&catid=6&threadid=7073
A quick overview. A member made a bunch of Repro Stadium Events as an April Fools joke in which he claimed to find a crap ton of them. After the joke played out by like the 3rd post they are sold to everyone who wants one including many long standing members. My how times have changed. This person would be insta-banned and put in the Hall of Shame if it were to happen today.
Leo_A
09-14-2015, 08:53 PM
If you switch the back with a identical one that's in better condition I see nothing wrong with that,even asking a higher price is no big deal.
Agreed, there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone taking a logical step to improve the condition of their game with original and completely identical components.
Saying otherwise would be like accusing someone of being a scammer since they swapped a cracked jewel case for an identical original. There is absolutely nothing wrong with such an action and it does not affect the value nor should it.
Tanooki
09-14-2015, 09:40 PM
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Flashback2012
09-15-2015, 01:55 AM
Oy...I had no idea this thread had blown up in the last few days. ^^;
JSoup
09-15-2015, 02:42 AM
Oy...I had no idea this thread had blown up in the last few days. ^^;
Nothing brings this community more together than having someone or something to complain about.
Steven
09-15-2015, 04:45 AM
Let me start off by restating that I like NA overall, but one of the funny things about it is whenever there's a price-related topic. A few people will eventually state something like "Man am I glad I got it for (insert cheap price here) back in ___!" And then you have people bashing those who say that. Or they'll bash it in a mocking way like *insert obligatory I got it for ___ back in ___!" It always amuses me, and everytime I read such posts I can't help but sense bitterness from someone who just wasn't lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. In general, I feel bad for those gamers who are trying to start a collection today. The scene was vastly different in 2006, and it's kind of funny how people like to bash those who talk about the good old days of the gaming scene. It's like, if you weren't there, then you don't need or want people WHO WERE to allude to that time period in any shape or form, as if those who are doing it are "rubbing it in."
Just a random observation I've made about NA over the years. Many members there are sensitive to what they think is considered "bragging" or "showing off" or "rubbing it in."
Gentlegamer
09-15-2015, 05:14 AM
They don't want people to know how things were before collectards and resellers ruined the hobby.
JSoup
09-15-2015, 05:22 AM
They don't want people to know how things were before collectards and resellers ruined the hobby.
Talk about sensing bitterness.....
Steven
09-15-2015, 10:22 AM
They don't want people to know how things were before collectards and resellers ruined the hobby.
Probably, yeah. If you got in the collecting scene say pre-2007, and you did the bulk of your buying before then, you're probably golden. If you got in say post-2012, then yeah, I can see why people bitch... all I can say is man am I glad the SNES bug bit me a good handful of years before it did most everyone else (January 2006). I beat the "nostalgia train" by at least 2-4 years or so. My collection wouldn't nearly be anything it is today had I got back in the hobby say, in 2012. Therefore, from a personal stand point, it doesn't bother me much one way or the other when I hear that games like Hagane have exploded to $500. Once I get a game, that's it. OTOH, if I was still searching for a copy of Hagane, of course I would be a bit exasperated. Basically, it's good to be "retired" from the collecting scene as price no longer bothers me. It would only if I were still searching.
NA also likes to complain about youtubers making certain games more expensive. Again, I don't care as I already got all the games I ever wanted. There are definitely benefits to being "done" when it comes to buying games :)
Tanooki
09-15-2015, 11:12 AM
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NA also likes to complain about youtubers making certain games more expensive.
This is something I've heard coming from several different places and I just don't understand the logic behind it. So you're all salty because someone brought attention toward something that might have otherwise gone unnoticed by the unwashed masses?
This could only be one of two things; either you've been searching and don't own the game yet, or you're wanting to somehow hoard the game experience as if it is something only a select few are deserving of. Maybe you passed on the game when it was first released? Tough shit, your mistake. Living in a post-eBay world where almost any commercial title is available 24/7 you've been too tight to open your wallet and pay the current asking prices, now they've shot up even more? Tough shit on another mistake.
The vast majority of the time if you're just wanting to play an older game then your options are virtually both unlimited and free. The barrier to playing on original hardware or own a physical copy of some type might be slightly higher but is definitely low entry unless you expressly want 100% real parts. To experience a retro game usually costs nothing. But then you're crossing the line between gamer and collector, which I guess is like comparing apples to oranges or a goodnight kiss to sexual homicide.
Tanooki
09-15-2015, 07:13 PM
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JSoup
09-15-2015, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't call that bitterness as much as an accurate yet blunt assessment of things.
Being bitter and being accurate are not mutually exclusive concepts.
You could easily swap out other items for games (beanie babies, pogs, baseball cards, pokemon cards, comic books, etc.) You have that smaller base of people with honest genuine long standing interest and they want things explode around them due to a convergence of lots of stupid and greedy stuff and it's clear the only thing you can logically point back to are collectors who don't think and just grab at any cost and the filth who keep raising the price along side the non-thinking demand to ever higher levels.
Not...really. Retro game collectors are one of the few collector groups that has actively tried to screw itself via brute force market control. Beanie Babies, Pogs and baseball cards were all (mostly) efforts by the manufacture saying "hey, this is rare because I said so!" and everyone else going "wow, that must be rare because they said so!" with little to no fan regulation beyond that. Sprinkle in a few low print run products and some advertising to make a big deal about it and the system starts to print it's own money. Pokemon cards are a whole 'nother thing all on their own.
This is something I've heard coming from several different places and I just don't understand the logic behind it.
I seem to recall we had a topic about this...somewhere. Might have been on vbender, I don't remember. But someone had dug up some statistics showing that there has only really ever been one game that has had it's price driven up due to a video. I'll see if I can find it.
Tanooki
09-15-2015, 07:58 PM
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Mario's Right Nut
09-17-2015, 09:48 AM
This thread is awesome. Just sayin'.
Mr. Morgan, stay classy.
portnoyd
09-17-2015, 05:59 PM
This thread is awesome. Just sayin'.
Mr. Morgan, stay classy.
Come on guys, you aren't trying hard enough. You've gotten only ONE Grade A NintendoAge goofball to post in this thread. When I did it, I got like 6. STEP UP YO GAME, DP.
Also, skcin7 has Stockholm Syndrome, with himself. That's impressive.
Tanooki
09-17-2015, 08:15 PM
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JSoup
09-18-2015, 12:29 AM
Jsoup I agree entirely since the era of the collectors edition and limited run games we got since the PS2 period, but you didnt see Chrono Trigger limited to 50K copies buy now or screw you. Or a collectors box of Street Fighter 2 SNES with 8 GI Joe Kenner made world warriors for $100 either. Those games were run in mass and the whole screwing thing I was referring to was that. The game playing they do with it now either explicitly on the box, or the atrocious runs of Amiibos driving that stupidity are two different eras and forces at play.
That was...my point. What..?
Well contribute more. You seem to have a knack for pissing them off with unfavorable information if I remember right. At least the nutter there dusted off an old account with just 9 posts. Perhaps the other 8 are just to poke a stick at the same kind of topics?
At least 5 of the other 8 have bans coming. In that topic I linked a page ago they requested it. Since I didn't see it happen at the time, I figured I'd keep that one in the back pocket in case they ever come back to bitch.
Tanooki
09-18-2015, 07:03 PM
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Milenko
09-19-2015, 09:19 AM
Can't say I saw the link but if they did, that's fine, don't really need anymore rabble rousing from chronic white knight liars trying to throw out ninja magic smoke bombs about what goes on.
Just to add to this, what pisses me off about those cocksuckers is they'll release reproduction runs. But if someone else does it, they break out the torches and pitchforks.
It's all illegal, why don't they understand this?
Tanooki
09-19-2015, 01:38 PM
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Pikointeractive
09-19-2015, 03:34 PM
It's not understanding, it's hypocrisy and looking the other way because of how the reproductions are done.
It's a money game. Ever notice the main pre-page before the forum always has news and videos? What happens is someone makes a game that's a member to the site. They'll do one of those disgusting limited numbered runs to gin up a bunch of desperate people who have to have one before they're sold out. Often the case is that a percentage will go back to the NA wallet to pay server dues and other fluff. So often the case is that you'll find these runs help pay for the site. The press brings more people to the site since they'll happily list/sell it just there, which in turn can bring in more members, more ad hits, and more purchases from people who donate a portion as well, and perhaps even that person will want to donate too.
But if it's someone off site that doesn't bring in traffic, the warm and fuzzies die off. And if it's someone making something someone on the site finds offensive because it could harm the value of their cartridge then it's war. It's all about the money and I'm not saying that as a negative, it's just the truth.
This... SOOO MUCH THIS.
Proto releases that help the community and make 30K in one day but somehow none if that is profit lol.
dra600n
09-25-2015, 02:40 PM
I notice all the butthurt about NA is from banned members. Wonder why :)
FieryReign
09-25-2015, 06:13 PM
Not banned. They just suck.
sfchakan
09-25-2015, 10:53 PM
Not banned there, even asked to be banned and did not receive it.
Even after this post (http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=26&catid=24&threadid=57262).
Daria
09-25-2015, 11:33 PM
Not banned. They just suck.
Wait... this isn't you?
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=148315
BouncekDeLemos
09-25-2015, 11:37 PM
Okay, I was gonna go on a sour note and vent, but I'm not gonna do that. It's my first post, so I'm not gonna be a drama queen. Not one site is a saint, so we should all just get along. Simple as that.
*Bro-hugs* :)
Tanooki
09-26-2015, 08:40 AM
Hey bounce long time no see.
Wow fiery really was kind of asking for it with that magic cart, though the underlying humor about what it is says a lot with the reaction.
The only real interesting there is some snark thrown back this way doesnt even address the problems perceived at hand, it's just half wit goon commentary instead to try and deflect.
dra600n
09-26-2015, 09:05 AM
Says the man who was severely butthurt when he was banned for the last time, and who begged to come back after his first banning and all the DP trash talk you did on your short visit to NA.
Halfwit? No sir, that would be yourself. You're pissed off at so much because you just hate yourself.
portnoyd
09-26-2015, 11:07 AM
Not banned. They just suck.
Wait... this isn't you?
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=148315
HNNNNNNNGGGGGHHHHHHH. So good.
Says the man who was severely butthurt when he was banned for the last time, and who begged to come back after his first banning and all the DP trash talk you did on your short visit to NA.
Halfwit? No sir, that would be yourself. You're pissed off at so much because you just hate yourself.
NA members really need to stay in their safe zone actually on NA, because this is what happens when they leave. Did you seriously accuse someone of hating themselves? Isn't that the definition of a NA user?
BouncekDeLemos
09-26-2015, 12:39 PM
Can't wait to see the day when we can all just squash the beef and resolve this trivial feud between communities rather than further perpetuate this negative high school banter. It doesn't help anything and gets people nowhere.
Tanooki
09-26-2015, 12:40 PM
Thanks port I had wreck it Ralph there on ignore. Adam I never begged anyone ever to come back and if you consider 4 years there short I question that too. Stop riding your fantasy and return to reality. This tired ass bipolar schizo behavior is beyond old.
The only thing I hate are people like you who abuse people Hiding behind staff buddies to repeatedly fuck with people to get their rocks off which you've done to quite a few over there. Reply if you want I won't see it because you're still blocked unless someone quotes it again as arguing with mentally unstable trash like you is a waste of my time and others here too having to read it. My suggestion to you, see a good phd and get on meds and if you're on them already get them adjusted as you're just not right in the head at all and the endless childish behavior says a lot about you having to make crap up to justify acting the way you do and it's sad.
JSoup
09-26-2015, 02:47 PM
Says the man who was severely butthurt when he was banned for the last time, and who begged to come back after his first banning and all the DP trash talk you did on your short visit to NA.
Halfwit? No sir, that would be yourself. You're pissed off at so much because you just hate yourself.
Why is it that just about every time I see a regular NA users posting outside of NA, it's always hate filled dribble?
I'm not the only one to notice this, right?
Tanooki
09-26-2015, 03:10 PM
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BouncekDeLemos
09-26-2015, 03:47 PM
I will agree that not everyone's a saint, but I cannot agree that every single person that comes from NA to here is what everyone else's claiming them to be.
Niku-Sama
09-26-2015, 05:03 PM
This should be in off topic
Tanooki
09-26-2015, 07:27 PM
Yeah it should, and no not everyone from NA comes here to troll bounce, stick around and you'll see that. There are plenty enough of the decent types who post too in a friendly way.
BouncekDeLemos
09-26-2015, 07:50 PM
^ Oh yeah I know that and I totally agree. But there does seem to be an extreme... probably due to trolling.
To answer the question about the topic here (to stay on topic), my opinion on NA is that they're overall nice people. I've helped develop games and artwork for a few of them (homebrew and the like) and in my opinion, it's a pretty tight community.
Yeah I had differences with very very few of them, but settled the differences and kept on truckin'. Overall, it's not that bad as it's being made out to be.
Tanooki
09-26-2015, 08:40 PM
On and one by one basis you're right, nice people around. While some of the stuff said here could have been said nicer or a bit nicer, there isn't anything that's wrongly said either though that does rub quite a few people the wrong way and that's really the root of the problem. It's not the individual persay it's certain individuals and the management style of what things or said things can or can't be allowed which not only stay on site where they should but follow elsewhere which should be no ones business.
leatherrebel5150
09-27-2015, 09:52 AM
^ Oh yeah I know that and I totally agree. But there does seem to be an extreme... probably due to trolling.
To answer the question about the topic here (to stay on topic), my opinion on NA is that they're overall nice people. I've helped develop games and artwork for a few of them (homebrew and the like) and in my opinion, it's a pretty tight community.
Yeah I had differences with very very few of them, but settled the differences and kept on truckin'. Overall, it's not that bad as it's being made out to be.
As one of the people that bounce did artwork for I can say he is a great person and artist.
I dont want people to misunderstand and think I have something against NA because i dont. It was the first place i ended up when i started collecting and i bought much of my collection there in my early years and learned alot.
I just cant stand the idea of people trying to dictate what others do with their property. As i tried to point out earlier in the thread. But in reality they cant actually stop you from doing anything.
As the years have gone on I post less and less there because threads gets repetative and I learn less and less. But I huess that comes with being in the hobby so long, youve seen and heard it all before.
Tanooki
09-27-2015, 02:47 PM
That's fair and much of my story too right down to some art Bouncy there did for a GBA game I had as well (DQM Caravan Heart *english*) Things just change is all. And I agree NA itself I have nothing against, nor do I many of the members, it's just some of the few staff or not who pull elitist tactics, dictating what you can/can't do with your paid property, stalking off site to remove people, buddying up to staff so you can get away with breaking attack rules, and the whole non-published rules too. It's stuff like that, and that's it. I've got friends/connections still there, and I've long since changed my posting style as I quit actively buying/caring really and my ISP too, I could be back there right now and no one would be the wiser (but I'm not.) Things have contracted to where as you said, very repetitive, and of course the darker aspects I want nothing to do with anymore. I don't care if someone is a member or a staffer there or not, it's the individual and in the end due to the database of years worth of posts you can easily 'site:nintendoage.com SOMETHING' do in google it's still a solid resource in that respect.
snes_collector
09-28-2015, 08:40 AM
The crowd there is just so different than it is here, and for people who have been on here and other forums for years it just isn't the same. Just the entire collecting community has changed, due to everything being worth something now. I love the idea of homebrews and releasing undumped protos but I do not like the idea of limited runs where I have to check the forum every day to make sure I didn't miss something I may enjoy. The lack of gameplay talk is disappointing too, and people are afraid to even talk about games now they are afraid the prices will go up. One thing that does have me excited is that new NES clone that is supposed to be coming out soon with built in scoreboard function- basically a online leaderboard for NES games. That should be pretty fun whenever that happens.
Tanooki
09-28-2015, 10:03 AM
See that's not even a Nintendoage problem, that's an illness and symptom issue really if you're into old games. I got started with it now 20 years ago buying old games and only in the last 5 has it turned progressively uglier. Sure NA has a gaming area of the forum and it's lighter, but that could be said about here, and fairly many others. I think due to that Let's Retro thing Racketboy is a good stand out against that since they switch it up monthly and leave it fairly broad (like this month is Mario Golf, there's 5 games in that.) Play for the month, have fun, write about experiences, or if you don't play, still talk about when you last did and maybe share some tips.
You really can't blame much of anyone not wanting to talk up a Nintendo based cartridge console game, it has once turned into sharing cool stuff people may like into playing russian roulette with your wallet and everyone else's too which is a shame. When you're a big enough site either a forum or a pay place like ebay/amazon which have sales history and discussion areas setting an example is good way to tip off unscrupulous people into trying to ram the value up on the next great thing. Sadly it's best to shut up or keep it between people which is depressing to a point. At least with homebrews or pirates people like to call reproductions to feel more saintly about it, you're getting something off the market that's more unique and if it's well made it may be worth it. But as you said, numbered releases are a sickening rabidly gobbled up curse which I don't even want to get into as that's beaten to death in this thread already. They all should be full releases, just made maybe in small chunks so extra stock isn't lying around at a loss, otherwise like legit games they hit ebay with a heavy jerk tax attached.
...and yes if bunny ever finishes it that scoreboard enabled NES of his seems like a nice idea. It'll definitely be a community niche within a nice collectors box as it's doubtful it will be comparably cheap to a real NES to where someone would value that added bit of it in their interests versus other options on the open market. I just hope for his sake it gets out there and he can back up and move into other projects I recall he wanted to do such as a v2 of his Powerpak.
Kevincal
09-28-2015, 05:56 PM
The fact is. Nintendo AGE is SEVERELY over moderated and their moderators do no moderating of the sort! They pick and choose favorites. The place just sucks. I tried to go back and get interested in the place, but it's such a shitty vibe. Its a shit forum.
Atari Age is not far behind. Very similar. Very much over moderated by guys who think they are special (like NA) and they don't understand the definition of "moderator". They think being a moderator means they can judge people and their opinion and if they don't like it, poof they will shit on your face and then click their little ban button because it makes them feel special. And to make themselves feel even more special they announce who they banned so they can get congratulations from their admirers (forum lackeys) who hope and pray to someday be a big bad moderator themselves.
God forbid you have a mind and opinion of your own that does not match up with the m(Asses).
JSoup
09-28-2015, 07:38 PM
What people who go on about "over moderation" tend to forget is DP used to be like that too, but with less favoritism and more 'get your shit out of here'. Were this pre-2007 DP, most of the long bitchfights we've had would have been force-ably ended after five posts and people like FieryReign would have been dealt with after post one.
Tanooki
09-29-2015, 09:20 AM
I wouldn't call that over moderation if it's truly even handed. I also wouldn't call it over moderation if they kept the reasoning to the confines of DP. When you start stalking people on ebay or elsewhere harassing them for stuff some butt hurt member is offended by threatening punishment or banishment, that's over the line just as much as staff telling you what you have the right to do or not to do with stuff you legally own. And when you start covering friends asses bad behavior while going after others who aren't on your buddy list, that too crosses the line into over moderation.
Gentlegamer
10-11-2015, 01:40 AM
Greetings!
I've decided that I want to start becoming a retro Nintendo collector focusing on just NES & SNES to start. Those are the systems I grew up playing. I recently purchased a Wii U and It's bringing back all those memories. I've always been a collector type of a person. Collecting MTG, Pokemon, Sports and Marvel trading cards since I was just a little kid. So this idea of collecting NES & SNES stuff is just really energizing and exciting to me. As of right now I have NOTHING lol. I'm going to try and hit up some garage sales hopefully this weekend to just get my collection started. I know I want to start with the most basic of things, like the Mario & Zelda games as an example. Obviously I need to sill get a the systems too. If you have any tips or ideas for me that would be great. Maybe some tips of forums, groups, facebook pages I should join?
Thanks so much!
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=153638&StartRow=1#bottom
Wew
JSoup
10-11-2015, 05:40 AM
Greetings!
I've decided that I want to start becoming a retro Nintendo collector focusing on just NES & SNES to start. Those are the systems I grew up playing. I recently purchased a Wii U and It's bringing back all those memories. I've always been a collector type of a person. Collecting MTG, Pokemon, Sports and Marvel trading cards since I was just a little kid. So this idea of collecting NES & SNES stuff is just really energizing and exciting to me. As of right now I have NOTHING lol. I'm going to try and hit up some garage sales hopefully this weekend to just get my collection started. I know I want to start with the most basic of things, like the Mario & Zelda games as an example. Obviously I need to sill get a the systems too. If you have any tips or ideas for me that would be great. Maybe some tips of forums, groups, facebook pages I should join?
Thanks so much!
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=153638&StartRow=1#bottom
Wew
The better advice would be to suggest he look into the current collection trends and see what appeals to him. Does he want to jump straight off the deep end? Focus on just a few things? Would rather just play than collect? Guys like him that are just general 'ohh, shiny' packrats are better served by smaller, focused collections.
Gentlegamer
10-11-2015, 07:46 AM
The better advice would be to suggest he look into the current collection trends and see what appeals to him. Does he want to jump straight off the deep end? Focus on just a few things? Would rather just play than collect? Guys like him that are just general 'ohh, shiny' packrats are better served by smaller, focused collections.
The dude is literally coming from MtG and Pokemon collecting. That's what this hobby is now.
Tanooki
10-11-2015, 12:21 PM
I take it that's why you bolded that as perhaps it's kind of true. I have no idea how high ball some of those little cards are other than I've heard they can get expensive depending on similar things like lower print runs, misprints, and people just deciding it's faux rare and enough chumps helped to up the price. I just don't even care to look as I don't get how to even play those games as they seem to be loaded with cheapo hoops to get out of binds and a lot of luck mixed with skill attempting a few digital versions for free in the past. I pity that dude, but if he's got money from those circles he'll probably take it on the nose fine, or like many who have made very similar posts there at NA within 6-12 months he'll setup a sales thing and be dumping crap in mass for taking it too far or realizing the mistakes that were made.
Daria
10-11-2015, 06:50 PM
I recently sold 6 MtG cards for $700. Don't see why you're so quick to discredit the guy for collecting cards.
The 1 2 P
10-11-2015, 07:00 PM
For some reason I've never joined Nintendo Age. Instead I signed up to Atari Age after it was recommended to me as being a nice alternative to this site. Needless to say I don't listen to that person anymore. I probably should have tried Nintendo Age instead of Atari Age.
Gentlegamer
10-11-2015, 07:15 PM
For some reason I've never joined Nintendo Age. Instead I signed up to Atari Age after it was recommended to me as being a nice alternative to this site. Needless to say I don't listen to that person anymore. I probably should have tried Nintendo Age instead of Atari Age.
Yeah you'd fit right in.
The 1 2 P
10-11-2015, 07:23 PM
^I have no idea if that's true but regardless I don't think I'll be joining many more forums unless it's for something specific I need to know.
Tanooki
10-11-2015, 07:37 PM
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JSoup
10-11-2015, 07:53 PM
The dude is literally coming from MtG and Pokemon collecting. That's what this hobby is now.
It's not. As I said, the guy is a packrat collector. For some people, it's more about the acquisition, preservation and presentation than the thing itself. That's not exclusive or even elusive to game collectors, you see it in pretty much anything that one can collect, particularly if there is a community built around it.
goldenband
10-11-2015, 10:00 PM
Whatever the virtues of 15 years ago, we also now have:
affordable flash carts that let us play practically every game released for every system that takes carts, and can hold their entire libraries on a single MicroSD card;
complete manual scan libraries for some consoles and near-complete ones for most pre-PlayStation consoles;
shitloads of newly translated games for NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. that actually work on real hardware;
lively homebrew scenes for most consoles prior to the SNES;
and any number of other options for people who want to play on real hardware but don't need the original games from BITD.
All in all, I'd say gamers have little to complain about, and enjoy more options than ever. Just five years ago things were much worse on the flash cart front than now.
It's really collectors who are worse off vs. 2000, but that's to be expected with any hobby that becomes popular. The games weren't going to stay cheap forever, and the vultures would always move in eventually, especially given that the US economy is largely running on fumes.
Tanooki
10-12-2015, 12:19 AM
The collector's screwed themselves, that's clear, they fed the beast and then it got smart and lots of shark beats jumped in to make it far worse the last 5 years. But it also screwed the gamer who wants a real game, hell if you don't know where to look right even getting those translations can be nasty on the wallet if you look to ebay for it which is lame. I prefer using real games, so I'm stuck in the middle of gamer/collector so it hurts worst.
goldenband
10-12-2015, 12:51 AM
I prefer using real games, so I'm stuck in the middle of gamer/collector so it hurts worst.
I like using real games too, but it sure is nice having the flash cart option -- not to mention the perpetual worry of losing your saved game on a real cart with a vintage battery (I've replaced one or two, but don't really feel comfortable soldering). It's kept me from spending substantial cash on some really stinky games, like Traysia.
The main thing I miss is the manual; I hate going into a game not knowing what I'm supposed to know, as sometimes it makes a huge difference and walkthroughs (or even the README files with translated ROMs) give too much away. I'd gladly pay a reasonable fee for nice manuals of translated games sold à la carte, i.e. without the cart(e). :D
understatement
10-12-2015, 01:13 AM
Reading through threads like this is what I've missed most over my absence haha.
As for my opinion on NA... meh.
I don't think I've ever made an account there, just lurked mostly. Yea it seems a bit pretentious but so are a few of my friends, not really bad people they just have no idea how the real world works and might seem like assholes to people that don't know them because of it. My biggest thing is they seem too limited with the focus on mainly Nintendo. I mean I love Nintendo but it's a small part of it all for me.
Gentlegamer
10-12-2015, 02:06 AM
I'm fine with that crowd focusing on Nintendo, leave everything else a bit under their radar.
Tanooki
10-12-2015, 10:37 AM
I like using real games too, but it sure is nice having the flash cart option -- not to mention the perpetual worry of losing your saved game on a real cart with a vintage battery (I've replaced one or two, but don't really feel comfortable soldering). It's kept me from spending substantial cash on some really stinky games, like Traysia.
The main thing I miss is the manual; I hate going into a game not knowing what I'm supposed to know, as sometimes it makes a huge difference and walkthroughs (or even the README files with translated ROMs) give too much away. I'd gladly pay a reasonable fee for nice manuals of translated games sold à la carte, i.e. without the cart(e). :D
While I agree about the kits, I've been through 1 NES and 3 GBA and 1 GB/GBC(bung 64m with lpt cable way back in the day) they don't keep my interest because I never can focus to finish a game, all that wasted space I don't like so I load it up with fun stuff then never do much of anything with any of them more than once or twice and not far. I ended up mostly using the GBA ones for PocketNES and Goomba Color(for my gb micro.) I miss the manuals too, but the prices on them since now they're not included I don't much care to touch if it's not $5 or less as it's not worth it to me. I'd rather have a 1:1 bootleg of that or if need be a PDF I can make one myself with, and I also always since the 90s have downloaded existing FAQ files since they tend to have the instruction manuals in part in them (at worst the controls.) I hate it when that's excluded, had to go digging for Hexen 64 yesterday and found some goofy weird 1 page review/non-review of it but the dude put the controls for the game at the top, so I pasted them onto the faq I downloaded up top. :D (Oroblem solved and the buttons are a bit confusing and there's no PDF of it scanned online. As much as it is like NA in a way, NES is like 100% done and N64 is 1/3 scanned to date best I can tell as far as US titles go.)
I'm fine with that crowd focusing on Nintendo, leave everything else a bit under their radar.
YUP! :) As long as their limited interest in Gameboy anything sticks to cardboard boxes I'm good as with all the other flippers out there. Same can be said with the spread of N64 titles that haven't gone ripoff value too which is kind of mystifying considering some of the rental or nearly rental only(indy) games as they're like really low distro like 10K (like Indy) or less.
I still think NA sucks, but after reading through this thread full of hypocrites and grown ass crybabies, this forum isn't much better. So much whinging and nut stroking.
mailman187666
10-14-2015, 09:25 AM
I'm fine with that crowd focusing on Nintendo, leave everything else a bit under their radar.
Not Sega Saturn though. I've been collecting for it for ages. I bought Bomberman and Burning rangers back when they were under $50 on ebay. All the $50 games are now $200 games it seems these days. I'm so glad I held onto all of them for so long. I thought paying $150 for Panzer Dragoon Saga on Ebay back in '06-'07 was crazy....glad I did now.
understatement
10-14-2015, 11:37 AM
Not Sega Saturn though. I've been collecting for it for ages. I bought Bomberman and Burning rangers back when they were under $50 on ebay. All the $50 games are now $200 games it seems these days. I'm so glad I held onto all of them for so long. I thought paying $150 for Panzer Dragoon Saga on Ebay back in '06-'07 was crazy....glad I did now.
Well, there is a Segaage so... Maybe they're starting to act more like Nintendoage with price manipulation? Idk last I heard SA was a little better than NA but that was forever ago so maybe they changed haha.
Gentlegamer
10-14-2015, 02:14 PM
Not Sega Saturn though. I've been collecting for it for ages. I bought Bomberman and Burning rangers back when they were under $50 on ebay. All the $50 games are now $200 games it seems these days. I'm so glad I held onto all of them for so long. I thought paying $150 for Panzer Dragoon Saga on Ebay back in '06-'07 was crazy....glad I did now.
Yeah, Saturn is pretty much walled off from all but the biggest spenders now. I wish I had checked it out more around 2006 when I first got into 'collecting,' but circumstances precluded it.
I need to check out the PseudoSaturn cart so I can play burns.
sfchakan
10-14-2015, 02:54 PM
Sucks even more now that it's harder to find modchips for them. A decade ago, you could still easily find them online.
So now if you just want to play some Saturn games and check out what you missed out on, you're down one option. Better not screw up your cartridge port!
Gentlegamer
10-15-2015, 06:42 PM
NWC 25th Anniversary Reproduction Auction
Get in the action for LE numbered editions 1-10!
Bidding starts at $150.00.
I dont mind resellers, but keep in mind that the note will be personalized to the winner. The old NWC NA PRGE repro was resold shortly after it sold out (it sold out in 3 days) for about triple it's price. It might seem expensive now, but it could pay off for you greatly in the future.
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=34&threadid=153882
bb_hood
10-15-2015, 06:50 PM
NWC 25th Anniversary Reproduction Auction
Get in the action for LE numbered edtions 1-10!
Bidding starts at $150.00.
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=34&threadid=153882
Ha! 150 for a repro is insane.
Its a repro...there is nothing special about them at all. Why do people not realize this???
Gentlegamer
10-15-2015, 06:58 PM
Ha! 150 for a repro is insane.
Its a repro...there is nothing special about them at all. Why do people not realize this???
Well it's a special premium repro, signed by the NWC winners!
And $150.00 is the starting bid. High bid is currently $500.
bb_hood
10-15-2015, 07:07 PM
Well it's a special premium repro, signed by the NWC winners!
And $150.00 is the starting bid. High bid is currently $500.
Cart, box, manual are all black. How boring.
Tanooki
10-15-2015, 08:49 PM
Well if it's the original NWC winner Thor, from a fan standpoint I can understand that if you grew up and were a kid in 1990 and got hyped over Thor and his amazing victory. It's fan service, though the black on black is a bit boring.
The one thing I never got other than he's a member there, but why why why keep sucking up to Robin? The dude was the second runner up, 3rd place, not much to fanboy over there. Also unless something has changed, he's made it clear other than NWC like stuff there's little to nothing left he plays or cares about in games, he just has a wall of unused games as an unused library kind of like a huge stack of old books in some old manor. I don't see the appeal. Thor sure, a genuinely nice guy and very engaging to fans and curious people alike and not full of himself either, and clearly, the winner of the NWC too.
All said though, really, so few copies and that much seems a bit sleazy. Do a real run and let the fans of the event and Thor get a fun bootleg of history. Oh wait sorry, pitchforks! I mean 'reproduction' despite it not reproducing the look or integrity of the original. :D