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Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 04:43 PM
Ok, I decided not to post this in the weekday finds because it MAJORLY deserves it's own topic. This is my HAUL OF THE YEAR! And no, it's not Chrono Trigger for 1.00 or nothing like that.

Anyways, before I post pictures and how much I paid, I have to give backstory on how I got this. Well, I have a friend that lives about 4 hours from me, and he decided to sell off his collection. He's not really a collector in a sense that we are, but a collector that's just a gamer, hardcore gamer. Anyways, he was needing the money, and we worked out a deal...I sell his collection for him on eBay, I keep what I want and I can have it cheap. I finally finished all the selling, shipping, and recieving payments. Now, the best part about this all is how cheap it actually came. I will explain that all in the end. Now, let's get to the pictures and what I got...

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/Cmosfm/100_0934.jpg

Neo Geo AES Gold System with all hook ups & 2 Controllers
Neo Geo CD System
Neo Geo Pocket Color
Phantom-1 Converter
Neo Geo Memory Card
1 Neo Geo Controller Extension (6 ft)
Fatal Fury (Neo Geo)
Samurai Showdown 2 (Neo Geo Pocket Color)
Samurai Showdown RPG (Neo Geo CD)
Rage Of The Dragons (MVS - Complete Kit)
Fatal Fury 3 (MVS)
Samurai Showdown 3 (MVS)
Windjammers (MVS)
6 Official Neo Geo Fan Club Pins

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/Cmosfm/100_0936.jpg

Panzer Dragoon Saga (Saturn)
Shining Force 3 (Saturn)
Space Hulk (Saturn)

Suikoden (PSone)
Suikoden 2 (PSone)

Ninja Gaiden 3 (NES)
Power Blade (NES)
Super C (NES)
Swords & Serpents (NES)
RoboWarrior (NES)
Guerilla War (NES)

Entombed (A2600)
Commando Raid (A2600)
Journey Escape (A2600)
Montezuma's Revenge (A2600)
GI Joe (A2600)
Gyruss (A2600)
Donkey Kong Jr (A2600)
Tutankham (A2600)
Survival Run (A2600)

Tombstone City (TI99)
AD&D (INTV)
Alien Invaders - Plus! (O2)
Mega Bug (CoCo)
Demon's Blazeon (Super Famicom - Pirate)
MP3 DC (Dreamcast)
Web Browser (Dreamcast)
Power Glove (NES)
Saturn Multiplayer Adapter (Saturn)
Genesis Power Plug by Tyco (Genesis)
32X Base Adapter for Model 2 (32X)

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v39/Cmosfm/100_0935.jpg

About 5 years of Nintendo Power Magazine (early issues, ranging from good condition to fair)
Top Secret NES Players Guide
Game Boy Players Guide
Super NES Players Guide
Super Game Boy Players Guide
Super Mario 64 Players Guide
Classified Information Hint Book

Einhander Manual (PSone)
Tekken 2 Manual (PSone)
LoZ Majoras Mask Manual (N64)
F-Zero Manual (Gba)
Jag-Ware Jaguar catalog (Jaguar)
VCS Catalog (A2600)
Virtua Cop Manual (Saturn)
Virtua Fighter 2 Manual (Saturn)
Panzer Dragoon Back/Spine Card (Saturn)
Playstation, PSone & Dreamcast System Manuals

Not pictures is a very bad condition Atari 2600 Darth Vadar system, and a Univeral RF Adapter & Universal AC/DC Adapter.

Ok, Pretty Good haul I'd say. Now, as I said, the best part is the price. He had a TON of other stuff, he shipped it all to me and it was about 5 HUGE boxes. After figuring out how much he made, the eBay fees, Paypal fees, shipping, etc, the amount he made off the other stuff was approximately Nine Hundred & Ninety dollars. That's what he made, not what I paid. So, he said, Just send me an even thousand dollars and I will be happy. So do the math...that's right, I paid 10.00 for all this stuff.

So yes, I worked hard selling his stuff for him, but the payoff was sweet. Thus resulting in my "Haul Of The Year"...Actually, I think I will have a hard time beating this haul, ever. I am done bragging now, so gimme some input, I love input!

Thanks!

TisLord
05-12-2004, 04:49 PM
By the looks of it you may have close to 500 dollars worht of stuff there...so what you are sayiing is you ripped off a friend and kept the good stuff he had for yourself...clever...and somehow horrible. If it was stranger fine...friend...no

jonjandran
05-12-2004, 05:02 PM
Hope he doesn't read this thread. X_x

But yea, nice stuff. @_@

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 05:02 PM
By the looks of it you may have close to 500 dollars worht of stuff there...so what you are sayiing is you ripped off a friend and kept the good stuff he had for yourself...clever...and somehow horrible. If it was stranger fine...friend...no

I guess maybe I should have clarified a few more points before I posted this. He was about to sell everything he had for 700-800.00 before I decided to do this. I got him 1000.00 and I kept what I wanted. He was very happy that I got him that much, and I was very happy that I got thist stuff. Did he feel ripped off or do I feel that I ripped him off? No.

Let's not mention that I put about 50-60 hours of cleaning, listing, e-mails, packaging, post office trips, etc etc into selling his stuff. Now, If I didn't sell this stuff for him, he wouldnt have gotten but 700-800. And friend or not, I'm not going to work for 60 hours for free.

So yeah, I guess I shoulda clarified that more, and you shouldn't be such an ass.

jonjandran
05-12-2004, 05:03 PM
By the looks of it you may have close to 500 dollars worht of stuff there...so what you are sayiing is you ripped off a friend and kept the good stuff he had for yourself...clever...and somehow horrible. If it was stranger fine...friend...no

And it's more like $1200 worth of stuff.

Ed Oscuro
05-12-2004, 05:07 PM
Uh, definitely worth seeing, but I think your fiscal polcies are suspect man LOL

Keir
05-12-2004, 05:08 PM
OK, I was in the middle of typing up pretty much exactly what Cmosfm said but he beat me to it. So, no I don't think you ripped anyone off. You did him a favor and he returned it. That's what friends do.

esquire
05-12-2004, 05:10 PM
With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Seriously, I am happy and sad for you. Sure it's a great deal for you, but you ripped off your "friend" big time. Did he know how much those items were worth? (by the way TisLord, its a lot more than $500!!!). If he did, no problem. If he didn't, and of course I am sure you knew how much they were worth, something is seriously wrong.

It is funny that I see forum members condemning sellers whom they think are ripping off buyers on ebay, such as the case recently where a seller sold resealed games (yet didn't state whether they were factory sealed or not), yet it is ok for a forum member to rip off someone else. I guess the moral is, it's ok to screw a friend, but not a complete stranger.

bigdaddychester
05-12-2004, 05:23 PM
You know, I'm in the same situation now. I have several boxes of radio and TV tubes that I rescued from my grandpa's garage after he passed away. Literally thousands of them, loose for the most part. Now i know that among vintage radio and TV guys these things could be worth a great deal, but I would just be happy getting them outta my garage and making some money to boot.

I think the main point is, we know it's worth a bit of money to someone, so if you can get some of it for me, and collect a little for yourself, go for it. You did fine Cmosfm :D 8-)

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 05:23 PM
The hell is with you people?

1. Yes, He knew EXACTLY what they were worth, he bought them. Most of the Neo stuff was bought off of Neostore.com, which is probably the most expensive place you will find.

2. He told me how much to give him, I didn't say "Hey man, this shits worth nothing, I'll give you 10.00". I told him I made him 990.00 off of his stuff, I asked how much he wants for the stuff I got (which he knew what I got), and he said "just make it an even 1000.00". What do you expect me to say? "No, I think this is worth much more, I will give 500.00"...anyone in my situation would do the same thing, and brag also.

So yeah, thanks for blowing my high. I was really enjoying the deal I got.

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 05:25 PM
That post was only directed toward esquire & tislord. Maybe Ed, but I think he was joking. LOL

orrimarrko
05-12-2004, 05:25 PM
My only question would have been, "Did you try to sell those items that you decided to keep?"

I'm thinking, no.

Your friend may have been under the impression that you sold all of the items that you could possibly sell, save a couple of keepers for your time.

Keeping the items that are worth the most, and then justifying it as you have is "opportunistic" for some, "shady" for others.

Obviously none of my business, but your post does practically brag for input.

At the end of the day, you have to live with it, so as long as you and your fried are fine, so be it.

Basically, you came away with some great items on consignment.

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 05:37 PM
My only question would have been, "Did you try to sell those items that you decided to keep?"

I'm thinking, no.

Your friend may have been under the impression that you sold all of the items that you could possibly sell, save a couple of keepers for your time.

No, but it was understood between me and him of what I was going to keep even before the auctions were listed.



Keeping the items that are worth the most, and then justifying it as you have is "opportunistic" for some, "shady" for others.

While yes, I did keep some high dollar items. I did also sell a lot of other really hard to find stuff that I did not have. Persona 2 for PSone, SF3 3rd Strike for Dreamcast, a lot of stuff I'd love to have but didn't keep because I kept what I really wanted. Most of his PSone games got 10-30 each, and they were mostly RPG's.


Obviously none of my business, but your post does practically brag for input.

Yes, of course it does, as all braggard posts do. If I didn't want input I wouldn't have posted it. But what I didn't want was a bunch of people telling me I ripped the guy off when he told me what to pay him for them. I guess basically what I wanted was people to tell me how good I did, I mean, that's the only reason people post there finds really. No one ever says it though, but that's what they want.


At the end of the day, you have to live with it, so as long as you and your fried are fine, so be it.

Basically, you came away with some great items on consignment.

Yes, I did, thank you.

optic_85
05-12-2004, 05:44 PM
10 BUCKS?!......... Great find....I'll give you 10 bucks for panzer dragoon saga :D

djbeatmongrel
05-12-2004, 05:49 PM
if i become your sex slave for a week could i get all of that stuff off of you? :P

Ed Oscuro
05-12-2004, 05:51 PM
*never mind, it's clear as day, lol*

Friend: Sell my collexion plz
You: yes
*exp chime* You found 990 gold!
Him: GJ
You: ty, can I have the rest?
Him: Sure give me an even amount
You: 1K G is even
*yoiNK*

The End

Postscript: everybody was happy with this outcome but the trolls on DP

And that is where our adventure begins...

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 06:01 PM
*never mind, it's clear as day, lol*

Friend: Sell my collexion plz
You: yes
*exp chime* You found 990 gold!
Him: GJ
You: ty, can I have the rest?
Him: Sure give me an even amount
You: 1K G is even
*yoiNK*

The End

Postscript: everybody was happy with this outcome but the trolls on DP

And that is where our adventure begins...

Kinda, it's more like...

Friend: Sell my collexion plz
You: yes
*exp chime* You found 990 gold!
Him: GJ
You: ty, How much gold for the rest?
Him: give me an even 1K amount
You: 1K G it is!
*yoiNK*

arcade4ever
05-12-2004, 06:02 PM
Hey I think you got a great deal!!!

What everyone trashing you doesn't seem to remember is that some people are just glad to clear out their stuff and i'm sure your friend was glad for your help.

I used to work at EB and people would come into trade some games and i would tell them that they were only getting 25 cents for a game and if they thought they (or a friend) were ever going to play it that they sould keep it.

Most of the time the person just said that they didn't care and they were glad to clear the space for a new game.

So be happy with your find.

goatdan
05-12-2004, 06:02 PM
Uh...

If someone came up to me and offered to sell off my old collection of [insert thing here] that I didn't want to deal with, and I just wanted to get rid of it, I would've been happy to sell it for a fair price.

One of my friends contacts me and says that if I want to sell it, he will do it for me if he can have dibs on some of the stuff. I think, cool!

Now, the person that sold it for me contacted me and says, "I sold 2/3rds of it and got about $1000.00. Maybe I was expecting $750 total. Maybe I was expecting $1000.00. Whatever the case, I get my payment and decide to let my friend have the rest fully knowing:

A) I wouldn't have taken the time to sell it all seperately
B) He has to have a bunch of stuff in there that is decent
C) He spent a lot of time and work packing everything else up and shipping it off for me.

If an average item sold for $20.00, that would be 50 seperate packages. At thirty minutes per package for unpacking, cleaning the stuff, listing it online, contacting the purchaser, collecting payments and shipping, that is 25 hours of work.

So anywho, if the person contacted me and told me that he had sold all the stuff he didn't want, had spent a lot of time doing it and received more money for it than I wanted in the first place, why would I be unhappy with selling it to him cheaply? I know the stuff is worth more, but I already got what I wanted.

Geez, chill out everyone!

sisko
05-12-2004, 06:05 PM
I see nothing wrong with this at all. The terms were clearly set in the beginning. Both knew exactly what was to be a "payment" and what was to be sold before anything even started, and both parties are fine with the deal.

I say you did on fine job for yourself, cmos.

Oh....and I hate you :D

norkusa
05-12-2004, 06:06 PM
The hell is with you people?

I don't understand why people are jumping on your back about this. You put in a TON of work into selling this stuff for your friend and he offered it to you for your help. I would have probably done the same thing if a friend of mine took the time to list, sell, and ship my collection for me.

You help him out, he helps you. That's what friends are for, right?

VACRMH
05-12-2004, 06:08 PM
SImply amazing haul (although I already knew about it ;) )

No comment on everything else. 8-)

petewhitley
05-12-2004, 06:23 PM
If you could get your friend to post in this topic we could put the whole silly debate behind us...

sniperCCJVQ
05-12-2004, 06:25 PM
10 friggin buck!

Awesome man ! @_@

charitycasegreg
05-12-2004, 06:30 PM
Thats amazing. and to the people who sad its sad you ripped your friend off... seriously just shut up, he helped his friend get an extra 200 bucks, yes he could have helped his friend get more, but his friend was happy enough and the deal is soooo good. His friend knew how much they were worth, but cmosm helped him sell all the other stuff so he was happy. And he did put tons of hours into selling the stuff. You people who said its sad, maybe your jeolous?...Im sure if you were in his position you would have done the same... I know I would... and if you wouldnt, maybe you just dont belong in the world of collecting. GREAT FIND!!!!

jonjandran
05-12-2004, 06:35 PM
LET IT DIE !!!

It was just a misunderstanding.

Those that said he ripped his friend off didn't know the whole story.

You have to admit if you just read the first post it does seem as if someone was trying to get over on someone else.

But after clarifying the matter , everyone can see it was a good deal for both people involved .

So as stated above:

LET IT DIE !!!!

gamergary
05-12-2004, 06:35 PM
I'll give you $11 to take that off your hands. You would be making a profit.

tynstar
05-12-2004, 06:49 PM
Very nice deal!!! I knew you where getting the goods but I did not know for how much. It is nice to see the people get off your back and other people defend you. The people on your back are jealous just like me. :-P

charitycasegreg
05-12-2004, 07:05 PM
I'll give you $11 to take that off your hands. You would be making a profit.

Ill give you 20! Thats 2 times what you paid!... LOL

:? <--That icon is so weird...

scooterb23
05-12-2004, 07:27 PM
I'll give you $20 for it all...double your investment. Shit...somebody did that already...how's about $30? :)

Amazing deal, good work, and a very good friend.

I'm glad I wasn't around some of you guys when I got my toploader for $3.49 off a good friend, or my TG-16 + Soldier Blade and AD&D Order of the Griffon for free off another friend...yoinks indeed.

Balloon Fight
05-12-2004, 07:29 PM
Congrats Cmosfm, you joined the "I hate you because you got a steal of a deal club"

Conrats on your excellent deal.

Ill also give you $20 for just the AES. Already double what you payed in one sale. ;)

tholly
05-12-2004, 07:37 PM
everyone is saying how you ripped him off, but if you were both happy with the outcome then thats good and congrats to both of you ... him for making the $1000 that he wanted and you for getting some AMAZING items for $10 + your time and eBay efforts..


congrats... and ill give you $100 + shipping for whats in the top pic minus some shit that i dont need.

Cmosfm
05-12-2004, 07:45 PM
Ok guys, I AM NOT SELLING ANY OF IT! I'm pretty sure you were all kidding, but Tholly sounded pretty serious.

Anyways, If this wasn't stuff that I didn't want, I would have sold it for my friend, it's all stuff that I really really want and plan on using. I have become a Neo Geo freak as of lately...though I can't spend a lot on carts.

:(

Ed Oscuro
05-12-2004, 08:00 PM
By the way, Greg, you've had your chance at those Technos x68K games...I'm gonna snatch em as soon as I wrap up another deal. Just a heads up 8-)

tholly
05-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Ok guys, I AM NOT SELLING ANY OF IT! I'm pretty sure you were all kidding, but Tholly sounded pretty serious.

Anyways, If this wasn't stuff that I didn't want, I would have sold it for my friend, it's all stuff that I really really want and plan on using. I have become a Neo Geo freak as of lately...though I can't spend a lot on carts.

:(

yea, if you were interested in selling, i was interested in buying...but since you are a new neo freak...enjoy....

Daria
05-12-2004, 08:40 PM
I don't think you ripped him off. After all your friend knows what he was getting into.

I have one friend who keeps sending me his unwanted RPGs and I keep telling him what they're worth but he keeps sending them anyway. Sometimes people just don't want the hassle of selling their stuff no matter what it's worth and they're happy to see it all go to a good home. Give him a break he made a good haul and all parties invloved were happy with it. (:

That said.. Dude... Panzer Dragoon Saga... Suikoden 2?!

*drools*

esquire
05-12-2004, 09:25 PM
Thats amazing. and to the people who sad its sad you ripped your friend off... seriously just shut up, he helped his friend get an extra 200 bucks, yes he could have helped his friend get more, but his friend was happy enough and the deal is soooo good. His friend knew how much they were worth, but cmosm helped him sell all the other stuff so he was happy. And he did put tons of hours into selling the stuff. You people who said its sad, maybe your jeolous?...Im sure if you were in his position you would have done the same... I know I would... and if you wouldnt, maybe you just dont belong in the world of collecting. GREAT FIND!!!!

I responded the way I did because he did not clarify the situation at first. So maybe you should read all the posts before you tell people to shut up.

That being said, if both parties knew the situation, then of course no one should have a problem with it.

No, I'm not jealous either, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy that is sometimes prevalent in this forum.

A friend of mine helped me out selling ebay items in the past, and I gave him a percentage of my FAVs. Would I have paid over $1200 for 50-60 hours worth or work? I don't think so, and I don't think my friend would ask me to either. But that's just me and my friends. Friends do things for each without expecting anything in return. Maybe I am old school, and you can call it whatever you want, but you have to admit when the "original post" was made, it seemed like he had taken advantage of the situation. If the guy only wanted $700 for the lot, I am not sure if he knew what the total value was. But that is neither here nor there. Both parties are happy. That is all that matters.

Cmosfn, I apologize for assuming the worst in you. Congratulations on your haul.

AB Positive
05-12-2004, 10:13 PM
what if someone traded you a perfectly working supergun setup with board (which is more valuable) for the AES + Phantom? I'm looking to collect both and you can afford just MVS easier. Just a thought ;)


-AG

DigitalSpace
05-12-2004, 10:16 PM
Awesome haul! Enjoy that great stuff.

Jasoco
05-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Wow. That's some nice shit right there.

Packerfan66
05-13-2004, 12:06 AM
Wow what an ass hole. I'm glad I don't have friends like you. I"d be robbed blind. You basically kept another 500 bucks.

punkoffgirl
05-13-2004, 12:20 AM
Wow what an ass hole. I'm glad I don't have friends like you. I"d be robbed blind. You basically kept another 500 bucks.

Completely UNNECESSARY and out of line. Posts like this will NOT be tolerated.

Achika
05-13-2004, 12:22 AM
I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything, it's a serious question.

Why didn't you offer to buy up his entire lot for $800 (what he orginally wanted) or whatever and resell it?

In other news, congrats

Achika
05-13-2004, 12:27 AM
[port connection refused? wtf?]

Jasoco
05-13-2004, 12:28 AM
I don't see why people think he robbed the guy. :o

The friend SAID he could keep what he doesn't sell. He tried to sell what would sell. This is what didn't sell. I mean, come on! Csmosfm (Did I spell that right without looking?... Nope. Dang. Extra "S". You can keep it.) didn't do anything wrong and does not deserve some of your hateful comments.

So, chill. Sit down. Calm down. You're just jealous. And jealousy leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering! And The Suffering is a game, so go buy it and play it instead of yelling at people on a web site.

Crush Crawfish
05-13-2004, 12:28 AM
That's frickin' amazing! I wish I had that stuff! Enjoy it! :-P

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 12:39 AM
I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything, it's a serious question.

Why didn't you offer to buy up his entire lot for $800 (what he orginally wanted) or whatever and resell it?

In other news, congrats

Well, I considered this, but I knew If I spent the 800 for it, I would have kept most of it, and I really need to stop spending as much as I do....trying to save money and all. So I figured this way would be better, I can keep what I REALLY REALLY wanted, and he would still get him money....win win situation!

Sph1nx
05-13-2004, 01:49 AM
Nice job Cmosfm.

Its funny that people are shitting on you though.

spoon
05-13-2004, 02:01 AM
Funny thing is, if you spent 800 for it, it would have only cost you 20.00. You know what I am saying. ;)

Great find bro. Def. best find of the year so far.

Ed Oscuro
05-13-2004, 02:52 AM
If I spent the 800 for it, I would have kept most of it, and I really need to stop spending as much as I do....trying to save money and all. So I figured this way would be better, I can keep what I REALLY REALLY wanted, and he would still get him money....win win situation!
If you'd spent that $800 you'd have just however many more games but a lot less green lining in your pockets! So I think everybody won out given that he got more than he was asking for by $200, you saved a dime or two and got a ton of stuff. Usually I have to work half a year before I can get a lot that size shipped out...no wait, make that lot about as big

This IS a different way of doing things but I'd say this solution is much better than paying $800 of your own money for all that other stuff - I wouldn't ever recommend paying that much money just for the hell of it (sometimes I pay more than something's worth knowingly, but I try to keep it under $20 :P)

I can only hope I'd manage to pull off a deal like that someday. Of course, I wouldn't, but hey, one can always dream :P

Also...are you sure that Demon's Blazon is a pirate copy? Looks like a real SFC cart from this distance to me.

anagrama
05-13-2004, 06:23 AM
The hell is with you people?

Unbelievebale freakin' haul, Cmosfm. Ignore these jerks, they're just jealous.
I'm sure that if they were in the same situation, they'd say "No, I couldn't possibly take these. Let me give you an extra $1000" LOL LOL

Like a lot of other people here, I've had friends *give* me stuff that they don't want or need, and so by the logic of the nay-sayers here, I guess I was also "ripping them off" by taking them rather than paying for it :roll:

chadtower
05-13-2004, 08:36 AM
You know, I'm on the fence about this one. Certainly I wouldn't brag about this one... as a friend I would have tried to get as much money as possible for all of the items and maybe kept a % of the profits, but definitely not the high ticket items he kept. If he got $1000 for the stuff that sold it looks like he could have easily gotten $2000 if the kept stuff was sold off, meaning cmosfm kept more than half of the value of this guy's collection.

Just because someone is happy with the results doesn't always mean you did them a favor.

Either way, I'm leaning towards the feeling that when something sounds WAY TOO GOOD to be completely true it never is. :hmm:

atari_overlord
05-13-2004, 08:56 AM
Awesome deal man!! I have had many of friend give me stuff for favors and whatnot. I got someones entire Turbo collection (System and 25 or so games) for a ween ticket. I was very pleased and so was he. One persons junk is another persons treasure. Also good luck with being a neo freak. I want one so bad but too rich for my blood. An awesome AES collection wont do me a lot of good living out of my car.

Dobie
05-13-2004, 08:57 AM
I had a situation similar to cmos (not with the major haul, NICE JOB!), so I see nothing wrong. My friend wanted to clear out his Gamecube stuff, and was getting offered practically nothing in trade-in at the game places, so I offered to sell it for him on ebay, so he could get more cash. He brought it over, and we worked out a deal of $300 for the lot (it was before the price drop), and I could keep whatever I wanted.

I sold his system and a few games--got him his cash, and I ended up with some extra memory cards, a controller, and a couple games for my troubles. No biggie. Win-win situation, I say.

Griking
05-13-2004, 09:33 AM
I'm kinda torn as well.

While your "friend" may have told you to keep what didn't sell I have to question just how hard you tried to sell this stuff? You're telling me that nobody was interested in buying the Sudioken II or Panzer Dragoon? Or even the Neo Geo? I highly doubt that.

And while you're "friend" said to just give him $1000 and keep the extras was he actually aware of the fact that the "extras" that you "couldn't" sell were worth more than his cut? I doubt so again.

I agree with a previous poster. Get your "friend" to to post to this thread and lets hear his opinion of how the transaction wend down.

omnedon
05-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Do any of the haters here have any idea how much work it is to properly run a pile of auctions? Plus the risk to cmosfm's feedback? Looks to me like some SERIOUS time was put into auctions, fees, perhaps PP fees, ship material and shipping.

Ebay is not magic. Ebay is work.

ClubNinja
05-13-2004, 10:36 AM
Do any of the haters here have any idea how much work it is to properly run a pile of auctions? Plus the risk to cmosfm's feedback? Looks to me like some SERIOUS time was put into auctions, fees, perhaps PP fees, ship material and shipping.

Ebay is not magic. Ebay is work.

Ebay is work, this is true, but did you *see* everything that was "earned" here? I have no interest in joining the hate wagon, but I can assure you that the time, effort, and fees involved here were *not* worth everything obtained in return. Perhaps some of us just see it differently, but I know I'd rather see any one of my friends with an extra grand in their pocket than me with a pile of their best stuff. I've been selling items for my eBay-impaired friends for years and all I ask for are the fees I get charged. Occasionally, someone will buy me a beer. Even at that, I'm basically just glad to help.

Having said that, I think the score is awesome and I'm glad that stuff is in the hands of someone who cares about it. I just know that if I were in that position, I'd be listing over half of that remaining stuff tonight so that I could cut my friend a "you're the fucking man, go buy yourself something nice" check.

captain nintendo
05-13-2004, 10:36 AM
I agree with the fact that you did alot of work for your friend.
And I am sure you probably did about 60 hours of work on the lot. I am also sure your friend is happy with the money he made ;) So in my eyes you both made out well. Could you have made him more money ? Probably......
Did you delivery more than he expected as far as money went ?? Hell yes :P


The end 8-)

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 10:38 AM
I'm kinda torn as well.

While your "friend" may have told you to keep what didn't sell I have to question just how hard you tried to sell this stuff? You're telling me that nobody was interested in buying the Sudioken II or Panzer Dragoon? Or even the Neo Geo? I highly doubt that.

And while you're "friend" said to just give him $1000 and keep the extras was he actually aware of the fact that the "extras" that you "couldn't" sell were worth more than his cut? I doubt so again.

I agree with a previous poster. Get your "friend" to to post to this thread and lets hear his opinion of how the transaction wend down.

I have stated it already, I DID NOT TRY TO SELL THE STUFF I KEPT. He knew exactly what I was keeping BEFORE I even listed the auctions...he said it was fine. I'm sorry if I did not state that clear enough, even though I felt I stated that with MUCH clarity earlier. So again, He sent me the stuff, I said "Hey, I want this keep this stuff" I named him everything I wanted to keep. THEN I SOLD THE OTHER STUFF!

As for getting him to post here, he's very rarely online, so I doubt I'd be to. If I can I will.

Omnedon has it right also, I think there were close to 100 auctions I had to list for these items, it's hard, VERY hard, especially on a 56k modem. Uploading pictures can be a total bitch.

AB Positive
05-13-2004, 10:43 AM
Heya Cmosfm, if they get to you just stab them in the face with your penis. :)

-AG

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 10:49 AM
I agree with the fact that you did alot of work for your friend.
And I am sure you probably did about 60 hours of work on the lot. I am also sure your friend is happy with the money he made ;) So in my eyes you both made out well. Could you have made him more money ? Probably......
Did you delivery more than he expected as far as money went ?? Hell yes :P


The end 8-)

EXACTLY! THANK YOU!

You know what I find really really REALLY funny...If I actually bought all that stuff from him at the asking 800.00 price, and posted it, no one would say a damn thing. Actually...I may even get a few people say I paid too much, and a few may have told me to try and get it cheaper.

So that's what I am trying to get at here, I MADE HIM MORE MONEY, I got stuff I wanted. Wow, how hard is that to comprehend.

Anyways, yes, the guy is my friend. BUT, he's more like a "never met in real life, talk to once in a blue moon on the internet" friend. I think maybe that needs clearing up. It's not like it's my childhood friend that I hang out with every other day or anything. He's a cool guy, he really is, but you people need to get a grip.

chadtower
05-13-2004, 11:00 AM
Do any of the haters here have any idea how much work it is to properly run a pile of auctions? Plus the risk to cmosfm's feedback? Looks to me like some SERIOUS time was put into auctions, fees, perhaps PP fees, ship material and shipping.

Ebay is not magic. Ebay is work.

I have periods where I run several auctions a week so I'm well aware of how much work likely went into this. I don't doubt his 60 hour figure at all though I assume it could have been done more efficiently. I'm not doubting how much work he put in. What I am doubting is that 60 hours of putting things up onto ebay = well over $1000 of items in return.

I'm with ClubNinja... as a friend I would have asked for a whole lot less.

ClubNinja
05-13-2004, 11:04 AM
Anyways, yes, the guy is my friend. BUT, he's more like a "never met in real life, talk to once in a blue moon on the internet" friend. I think maybe that needs clearing up. It's not like it's my childhood friend that I hang out with every other day or anything. He's a cool guy, he really is

Good to point that out. I'd be much more inclined to take that kind of deal from someone I didn't really know or care about...


but you people need to get a grip.

You specifically stated in your post that you were just aching for feedback. You're getting much more feedback than a typical brag post would. Regardless of its nature or sentiment, you asked for it, no? Like Chad said, I wouldn't even have posted about this one if I had gotten that stuff. There's too much room for critical comments that I personally wouldn't want to deal with.

While I don't necessarily support all of the negativity you're getting, perhaps you're really earning that stuff now after all.

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 11:26 AM
but you people need to get a grip.

You specifically stated in your post that you were just aching for feedback. You're getting much more feedback than a typical brag post would. Regardless of its nature or sentiment, you asked for it, no? Like Chad said, I wouldn't even have posted about this one if I had gotten that stuff. There's too much room for critical comments that I personally wouldn't want to deal with.

While I don't necessarily support all of the negativity you're getting, perhaps you're really earning that stuff now after all.

I'm assuming you didn't read where I already commented about this.

mezrabad
05-13-2004, 11:48 AM
You know what I find really really REALLY funny...If I actually bought all that stuff from him at the asking 800.00 price, and posted it, no one would say a damn thing. Actually...I may even get a few people say I paid too much, and a few may have told me to try and get it cheaper.


LOL! You're absolutely right!

Great work, congratulations for what you earned.

What some people need to understand, is that Time is often a lot harder to come by than Money. Very often, Space is also at a premium. Cmosfm's friend needed Space and some Money, but he didn't have the Time or Skills to acquire it. Cmosfm traded his Time and Skills to get his friend Money and the byproduct of Space. In the process he EARNED himself some Cool Stuff.

To those of you who suggest or who are thinking that Cmosfm should've have given away 50-60 hours of his time: I point at you and wonder how many times you go to your boss and say "hey, don't worry about paying me this week, you are almost like a friend to me so I give you this week for free!" You are very funny! Like clowns throwing pies! Hahahahahah! Oh, my aching sides!

ClubNinja
05-13-2004, 11:53 AM
Just to clarify in advance, I'm not interested in judging the deal discussed in this thread here - it's sweet either way, whether you like it or not. I'm more interested in addressing the surprise over negative feedback...


I'm assuming you didn't read where I already commented about this.

You know what assuming makes you, right? Of course I already read it, and even went through the trouble of repeating it here:


Yes, of course it does, as all braggard posts do. If I didn't want input I wouldn't have posted it. But what I didn't want was a bunch of people telling me I ripped the guy off when he told me what to pay him for them. I guess basically what I wanted was people to tell me how good I did, I mean, that's the only reason people post there finds really. No one ever says it though, but that's what they want.

The risk you take in sharing something in any open forum (like our literal web forum right here at Digital Press, for example) is that you cannot control the response you invite. Sure, you wanted people to "tell you how good you did", pat you on the back, drool, praise you, and appoint you king of the giant gaming hauls. From what I can tell, you did get some of that.

You also got a mess of negative reactions. Some may be out of jealousy, while others are clearly based on the personal morals and ethics of the posters. Regardless, in an open forum, everyone has the right to their opinion. In this case, some folks think you bit off a little more than you were really entitled to and you certainly don't want to hear that. You have no basis thinking that these people have no place letting you know how they feel. Whether they're right or wrong (and I don't believe there is such a right or wrong here), you posted something which you admit begs for feedback just by nature, and you got feedback. If you expected only pleasant envy or "you're so the man, dude" comments, then I think you were being naive. If you're upset by the negative comments that you've been getting, then stop acknowledging them. For every nasty post here, there's another "good show!" post. That's the reaction you wanted, it's in there, move on and enjoy your new games.

Funkenstein
05-13-2004, 12:00 PM
http://www.gsinet.net/~jlariv/thread.jpg

Hey, how much was that Manilow boxset peeking out of the corner of the photos there? Uh... my mom wants to know. Yeah.

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 12:05 PM
Well, I suppose you are right ClubNinja...I just wasn't expecting ANY negative comments toward this. Still upsets me that there are, but yes, you ARE right.


Hey, how much was that Manilow boxset peeking out of the corner of the photos there? Uh... my mom wants to know. Yeah.

Yes, as I was posted I noticed it snuck in there. it was 40.00 shipped on www.deepdiscountcd.com . Comes with 4 excellent CD's, a book and a 1 hour VHS of classic performance. Highly worth the asking price, and DDCD is the cheapest there is. Buy it! You know...for your mom. ;)

Keir
05-13-2004, 12:51 PM
While I understand why people want this thread to die, I actually think it's worth discussing as long as everyone can be civil.

What I wonder is what would this be like if it were a bunch of rare Beany Babies or something? No, seriously. What we see in Cmosfm's pictures is something worth much more than just money because we're all gamers. When I first read this I tried to put myself in the friend's position. Sure, if it were games I would never give it all up for only $1,000. But if I somehow acquired a huge collection of Beany Babies I'd be happy to get rid of them. And if I came to this forum I'd be even more happy to see how excited my friend was for acquiring all this "cool stuff". I realise that's not a perfect analogy but do you see what I'm saying?

chadtower
05-13-2004, 01:12 PM
I realise that's not a perfect analogy but do you see what I'm saying?

The analogy doesn't even really work. Beanie Babies are display items only where games have value in terms of usage and resale. If his friend is a "hardcore gamer" as he says AND bought it all from "expensive sources" as he says then his friend realizes both sets of values. It just doesn't add up to me that someone would spend that much on things of obvious quality, know the values, and still give that much away like that. Add to that the fact that even if a friend of mine were willing to do such a foolish thing I'd never accept that much from them for the services, I just think it's a crappy thing for him to have done.

After a bit more thought on this there's something else that doesn't add up. He says he ebayed most of the stuff and got back $990. Well, if he ebayed it, he likely got high value prices for it. Looking at the stuff he kept, even disregarding the fact that the stuff he kept is worth more than $990, clearly the stuff he ebayed couldn't have been better or rarer than what he kept. I can't come to ANY conclusion other than that he kept all of the best stuff and sold exactly enough of the lesser stuff to get the guy just slightly more than he was asking himself off of ebay... and I'm having trouble believing that is accurate.

Cmosfm
05-13-2004, 01:33 PM
Ok, since there's so many people to jump on the "your such an awful person" bandwagon. I ask you a question...

You picked out this stuff you wanted, your friend knew that you wanted it before you sold the other stuff, now that everything is sold you ask how much he is going to charge you for it all. He says what he told me, make it an even 1000.00. Now honestly, what would you do?

Before you say "I wouldn't have picked out the most valuable stuff like you did" please keep in mind that I planned on paying him the asking price HE wanted in the very beginning. Of course I wanted him to give me a good deal on it though. Now being that I'm such an evil person, please, tell me how you would have handled the situation. I'd like to know how many people would volunteer to give away more money.

chadtower
05-13-2004, 01:42 PM
I'd like to know how many people would volunteer to give away more money.

I likely would. I would not be comfortable buying such a lot at such a price. I'm not saying I would offer him another grand, but I sure as hell would have thrown at least a couple hundred out for those items for the sake of something resembling fairness.

chaoticjelly
05-13-2004, 01:47 PM
Nice deal you got there cmosfm :)

Anyone who bashes you on here is just a tiny tiny tiny little bit silly :P ... the only reason they are bashing saying that you "conned" your friend etc is because they're just jealous that an opportunity such as that hasn't arisen for themselves!

I couldn't be more pleased for you!

Cleaning, selling, answering emails, packaging etc all takes a huge amount of time, as I know, so really it was only fair you got some good stuff in return

8-)

chadtower
05-13-2004, 02:09 PM
Anyone who bashes you on here is just an idiot... the only reason they are bashing saying that you "conned" your friend etc is because they're just jealous that an opportunity such as that hasn't arisen for themselves!

That is so startlingly dumb I just thought I'd quote it. :roll:

charitycasegreg
05-13-2004, 02:51 PM
Anyone who bashes you on here is just an idiot... the only reason they are bashing saying that you "conned" your friend etc is because they're just jealous that an opportunity such as that hasn't arisen for themselves!

That is so startlingly dumb I just thought I'd quote it. :roll:

Actually it makes perfect sence. What he means is that everybody who says "nice job, you helped your friend make more then he wanted, and you got an awesome deal", are happy for cmosfm, the poeple who said, "you ripped off your freind, your a sad person" are jealous that they dont have freinds like that, cmosfm stated that his friend knew the value, Maybe his friend also alreayd made prifit from the deal. So seriously, if your jealous, theres a way you can fix that, go get some damn friends, or quit your bitching!!