Sony releases PSP price point... it ain't pretty!

[RCM]

I'd just like to say that the reviews on Gamespy are awesome, and from Fargo's crazy "Medieval Total War 0wnz my pepe" style cult-of-personality imbued articles, to Raymond's more subdued pieces - it all fits nicely, and despite the varying styles the general tone is uniform - and likeable. Along with the awesome color scheme and tons of color commentary archived (though sometimes hard to find again), it's pretty hard not to like it.

I like XBN. Game[.]'s Rumor Roundup of YeeHaw Goodness or whatever it's called is pretty authoritative, though I don't like its style so much ("not bogus" = surfer dude-style cop-out!). I like their articles about the history of the industry, particularly the one on The 7th Guest - that has stuck with me.

Rag? Try....um...er...Official PS Mag AUSTRALIA. Editorial quality falls in a whole other class than the occassional unoffensive grammar innovation from GameSpy staff. OPM Aust.'s editorial quality puts it is in a class that is decidedly NOT upwardly mobile (I discovered the hidden Agent Doggett before I came across the text of their "competition!"). All the same, I enjoyed reading it despite some layout blunders. How about many of the me-too sites lapping up rumors and feeding them wholesale to the public? Nintendojo? The Magic Box, which has fed this fellow one too many embarrasing rumors? Nintendo Power?

I don't understand GameSpy bashing - or hatred - for many other good magazines/pro sites.

I don't hate anything. I am in error when I say I hate anything. Sites like Gamespy have to appeal to a general audience like a Disney movie. I am a hardcore gamer and about a hundred other things if you ask Meston. Sites like this are bland. I like more specialized stuff personally.


Love you, RCM, but I remember how you roared onto the DP scene with rather favorable accounting for Panzer Dragoon Saga's print run, which you were looking to sell, and then defended it in the face of considerable criticism as if you brought those numbers down from Mount Sinai.

Can't say I love you yet Ed, we've only started dating. I do remember my first couple DP posts when I unwisely tried selling PDS. I did defend my position. Not because my numbers were right, but b/c nobody could come up with any evidence that they were wrong. People were saying PDS came out with less then 5,000, no it was 10,000, no it was 15,000. In the end I said lets agree that it is a rare title with a low production run and that it is a piece of art. While just about everyone said I was wrong I basically said give me the evidence that you're right. Nobody could. I said 5000 b/c it was the only number Sega released that i knew of. Nobody could come up with anything. That thread happened way differently then you make it sound. I wasn't fighting just to fight.


I'm not mad about that, and I too have let myself fall right into some pretty ridiculous diatribes, but lemme say - I'm damned if I see much going on in your posts besides character assassination.

Are saying that I try to ruin peoples reps in every post? Or are you just commenting on the venom fests between meston and I? If you mean I try to ruin people in every post you are totally wrong. I just want to get along. It's hard sometimes when you have strong opinions though. As for Meston and I, it's a shame. We had one thread that we had it out and since then he has become very hostile. If you look at these last couple posts ive jabbed him a bit but could have gone a whole lot worst. I don't see the need to make a judgement on someones entire being without even meeting them. I don't hold grudges on the forums though, not even with Zach. To prove it i asked if he wanted to cover the ECGX in his mag. It was a sort of last minute thing and i told him i was sorry for that.

To make it totally clear, i'm not out to get anyone or make fun of them. Zach is in a weird position with me b/c i have opinions about his work and his friends stuff. I don't really approve a majority of the time. It's not meant to offend, it's just the way I feel. I understand that when an upstart like myself comments on someones work it is like commenting on them personally. I will continue to do it though like me or not. Hope this clears things up for you Ed.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[slip81]

That's way too exspensive. And the high price is all for crap that's never going to catch on. Sony is so concerned about making an end all be all system that will replace all your componets on your AV rack, when the truth is, electronics that do multiple things almost always to them worse than dedicated ones.

I doubt UMD's will catch on as long as DVD's are still so popular, no one is going to want to rebuy thier movie collection yet again, and I doubt movie studios will release many UMD movies cause the only thing that will use them is the PSP, which probably won't sell well. And why use the PSP's dinky storage space for MP3's when you can buy a dedicated player with 20gigs for way less, or a 40gig one for about the same price.

[Bratwurst]

The only thing RCM and an NBA player has in common is the 3rd person speak. RCM isn't going to lose that.

Bob Dole isn't having any of that sass talk.

So is this your thing or did you start emphasizing the third person references just to pinch another of Mr. Meston's nerves?

[RCM]

Bob Dole isn't having any of that sass talk.

So is this your thing or did you start emphasizing the third person references just to pinch another of Mr. Meston's nerves?

Nah, I, I mean RCM does it every once in a while. I wasn't aware that he didn't approve until I read his post.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[bargora]

If you know so much why aren't at the top of the industry instead of posting on here?
Yes, because only lowlife rabble post here.

[RCM]

Yes, because only lowlife rabble post here.

I not saying that at all if that's what you think. There are a lot of great people on the boards and some have had a huge impact on game culture like Leonard Herman. Zach has made many statements that he knows more then I about everything in gaming. To be clear he said:


I certainly know more about video games and the video game industry

I've never been so bold to claim I know more then anyone else on the board. So i just question him. If he's on such a higher plain then I, and I will say he thinks the same of many people on DP, how come he isn't the top, end all videogame journalist. That's all.

I am sorry you took offense.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[zmweasel]

Really not worth debating anymore. Wasting both of our time on this issue. We both have our clear opinions and have expressed them. If you know so much why aren't at the top of the industry instead of posting on here?

Being at the "top of the industry" requires relocating to the Bay Area and/or working 100-hour weeks, and I'm not willing to sacrifice quality of life to pursue a full-time game-industry career. I had my three-year taste of game development at Working Designs, and that was enough.

There's no question I have fewer gigs than I did in the '90s, but that's because I'm ancient by game-industry standards (32), and because fewer magazines and websites use freelancers.

I already gave you the reasons for my presence in this forum, and again, I don't claim to be "all-knowing." I do, however, know more about the video game hobby and industry than you. (Not that knowing more than you is a remarkable achievement, of course.) I'm not disparaging the knowledge of anyone else in these forums, or claiming to know more than any of them. Just you.


It isn't anything like that, but you will believe what you will. How about posting "shit-stirring" comments nearly all the time as you admitted? Now who is crying for attention? Not I.

Again, I've explained the reasons for my presence in this forum, and it's not for attention. It's to expand my knowledge and engage in debate, challenging my own views and those of others. Sometimes, the debates get ugly. C'est la vie. After 20-something years of online experience, I've grown exceedingly used to it.


I understand that. While you were ripping me you seemed to fail to realize that the launch titles were not selected and are incomplete (esp. in the case of the PSP). I don't know the terms of your NDA, but those to points prove that you haven't played the full lineup of complete DS or PSP titles.

Again, NDAs prevent me from telling you what I have and haven't played, and at what stages of completion they are, etc., etc. I'm legally unable to refute your "proof," and you wouldn't believe me anyway.


You make it sound as if I came out of the gates saying you were a fuckhead. I believe the first time it got personal when you asked me what I thought of you or something to that effect. I answered. If you don't want to use the term "bully" then lets use "overly forceful." I'm not going to ask people to stand up and take the heat by agreeing.

No one's going to "take the heat" by telling me that I "bullied" them. I'm genuinely curious if anyone besides yourself thinks I've ever attempted to "bully" anyone on this forum.

As for your admittance that you established the tone of personal attacks which I'm sadly forced to emulate, I have no recollection of asking you what you thought of me.

-- Z.

[RCM]

I'm not disparaging the knowledge of anyone else in these forums, or claiming to know more than any of them. Just you.

I hooked myself up to the same machine that you used to gauge your knowledge. Golly gee you're right! You are smarter then me! Wow. Sorry. I learned my lesson. Sense the sarcasm


No one's going to "take the heat" by telling me that I "bullied" them. I'm genuinely curious if anyone besides yourself thinks I've ever attempted to "bully" anyone on this forum.

As for your admittance that you established the tone of personal attacks which I'm sadly forced to emulate, I have no recollection of asking you what you thought of me.

It's ok everyone, Zach won't hurt you if you speak up, he promises! Ha.

I admitted that you asked me something to the effect of "what do you think of me" or something similiar and I answered. In that case I suppose we both "started it."

I am fine with taking responsiblity for starting it if you want to see it as if it was all me (but I believe it was a combo). But I will certainly blame you for continuing it and trying to make it nastier then I have even come close to.

It's clear we disagree on many things. One thing we should agree on is peace. I am willing to wash the slate clean if you are. If you feel I am attacking always or whatever you won't have to again. What we've said can never be taken back. It doesnt matter to me what you've said. I am as confident in my convictions as you are to yours. Sticks and stones, you know.

So what do you say? We can still disagree as strongly as ever. But we can do it a little more civily and we can have debates rather then fights. It's up to you. I am only going to ask once. Not a threat by the way. It is a good idea. I'm sure people are as sick of us figthing as we are of each other.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't hate anything. I am in error when I say I hate anything.
Then why say it in the first place? Not that I'm particularly troubled when someone says they "hate" something, but your constant warring with Mr. Meston should strike you as being a similar example, except here you've targeted a person who can retaliate, as opposed to a thing.


I do remember my first couple DP posts when I unwisely tried selling PDS. I did defend my position...I said 5000 b/c it was the only number Sega released that i knew of. Nobody could come up with anything. That thread happened way differently then you make it sound. I wasn't fighting just to fight.
Actually, I would characterize that argument as creative interpretation of the production run figures, and not much else. The "everybody else" you were up against ultimately had a good enough argument; you just didn't want to give in easily. If you were completely certain as to those numbers, you'd never have left that discussion on a concilliatory note.

I make that statement as a result of watching you constantly go at it with the Freelance Weasel.

Certainty in the face of all reason, essentially.


I'm not mad about that, and I too have let myself fall right into some pretty ridiculous diatribes, but lemme say - I'm damned if I see much going on in your posts besides character assassination.

Are saying that I try to ruin peoples reps in every post? Or are you just commenting on the venom fests between meston and I? If you mean I try to ruin people in every post you are totally wrong. I just want to get along.[/quote]
Okay, you can understand that to mean "RCM tries his damndest to put down an insider's (if not indeed a full fledged expert's) opinion, belittle and ignore his points, and act as if a NDA is just a cocktail napkin Sony puts those delicious lemon shortbread cookies on."

However, since you argue that's not the whole story, add "RCM also swears a lot while doing it."

[Berserker]

In spite of my earlier "contribution" to this thread(the sarcasm of which may have been lost on a few of you :) ), I for one appreciate the counterpoints Mr. Meston adds to the discussions he chooses to take part in, it makes for an interesting read. And, when others decide to tastefully counter his counterpoints, I think it makes for an even more interesting read.

It's easy to take what people say personally, even if it is on a messageboard, and while it's pretty clear that this thread wasn't really going anywhere in the first place(also an influence on my earlier post), it's just a sad sight to see a thread go even further down the gutter when personal bickering is carried out in public like this.

So, before this thread is inevitably locked, I'd just like to say that I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes to read and occasionally take part in a good debate, preferably free of all the personal stuff that sometimes comes with it, though the odds of that occuring in this one, now, seems pretty unlikely.

[badinsults]

Does anyone else think that this thread has become an inane argument, and should be locked?

[RCM]

Then why say it in the first place? Not that I'm particularly troubled when someone says they "hate" something, but your constant warring with Mr. Meston should strike you as being a similar example, except here you've targeted a person who can retaliate, as opposed to a thing.

I was commenting b/c you said:


I don't understand GameSpy bashing - or hatred - for many other good magazines/pro sites.

I was merely commenting that I don't hate anything. Had nothing to do with Meston.


Actually, I would characterize that argument as creative interpretation of the production run figures, and not much else. The "everybody else" you were up against ultimately had a good enough argument; you just didn't want to give in easily. If you were completely certain as to those numbers, you'd never have left that discussion on a concilliatory note.

I make that statement as a result of watching you constantly go at it with the Freelance Weasel.

Certainty in the face of all reason, essentially

I didn't realize till i looked back, I actually dealed with you and tried to sell it. You aren't pissed that I didn't sell are you?? Ha. Here's what I said in closing (on that subject)on my very first thread:


Sisko-
I am not trying to sound like "a jerk" as you put it. I am just defending my statements. Nobody has offered me concrete evidence to their claims. I have heard that there are as many as 10,000 AMerican PDS games produced and as low as 3,000. I have also heard for many years from many respectable peope in gaming is that 5,000 copies of PDS exist. I am just going on what I have heard. Nobody truly knows except SEGA. It isn't really an issue to me on how many really exist. It is all speculation. The bottom line is that the game is rare be it if 3,000 or even 15,000 copies were produced. I was just trying to sell my game, plain and simple. Then I was challenged and I responded. It has nothig to do with being "a jerk." So to set the record straight, I am not being a jerk, just stating simply that it seems nobody on this forum (including myself) can really be sure as to how many PDS games were produced. Lets all agree that it's a great piece of art, a rare piece of art, and that regardless of how many copies exist it is rare. Nuff said

RCM

Can't believe this has come up again. I thought I was right and people called me on it. Again Ed, people had a lot to say but no back up. That was my problem ultimately. They couldn't back their word up. Sega had stated that 5,000 were made. That's what I went on. They released no other numbers. If you know, please tell me the true domestic production number from a reliable source. If I told you you were wrong about something and had no hard proof wouldn't you question me?

I asked to wash the slate clean with Meston b/c our debates aren't debates but fights. Once a thread is over I drop all animosity towards everyone(if any exists). The slate becomes clean again if you will. Zach clearly has not done that with me. Contrary to what Zach has expressed, i'm not such a bastard. I am willing to be civil. Our bickering has ruined many threads. In no way am i admitting that my stances are invalid though. As a matter of fact I believe we have had some runs ins Ed, but once they are over I could care less, they are over.


Okay, you can understand that to mean "RCM tries his damndest to put down an insider's (if not indeed a full fledged expert's) opinion, belittle and ignore his points, and act as if a NDA is just a cocktail napkin Sony puts those delicious lemon shortbread cookies on."

However, since you argue that's not the whole story, add "RCM also swears a lot while doing it."

RCM goes against anything RCM sees as being wrong and anything RCM disagrees with. Should Zach or anyone else get a free pass b/c he's a videogame journalist? Fuck that. I said that for you Ed. Ha. There are many threads that Zach is in that I only read. I'm not against everything he says. You make it sound like I am in every thread with him. Let's get serious.

As for the NDA I understand what they are and have signed them myself. What? RCM has done what? I didn't sign as RCM though. I didn't even sign them as Rob. Ha. I respect that he has signed them. Never said I didn't.

Listen Ed, I have another copy of PDS. I will sell it, just get off my motherfucking bastard back! Sorry, had to throw in some swears to complete the post. I swear a lot in my posts I guess.

On a fun note, i noticed I signed off as RCM in my PDS post. I wonder when the first appearance of

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

was.

[ManciGames]

I was ready to ask the mods to ban myself, Jaysen, or both because Jaysen was jumping into every thread I posted in, for the sole purpose of continuing a sad little feud which I had long since dropped. Seeing as he's using my name on his website to sell his leftover copies of Manci Games, I would assume he's since dropped it as well.


What the?!?! How'd I get pulled into this one? I'm just out playing cards with the guys one night, having a good time, and I come back and find this? Anyway, if you guys are really that interested (which I doubt you are), you can all go and look up all of these supposed threads I jumped into so that I could instigate Zach (which I doubt you will). I think the grand total was...one.

At any rate, I never really had any feud with Zach. I just think he's got a slight ego problem. One which I have no problem fanning the flames of if it will sell a few magazines. So, why doesn't everyone come on over and check out www.mancigames.com and buy a copy of Issue 2, which features a review and news by none other than our own game-guru, Zach Meston, a legend in his own mind...I mean time!

[ManciGames]

But there's no precedent for a game company selling a handheld system that costs so much more (in terms of dollars or percentage) than its home console, and that presents a marketing challenge for Nintendo and Sony.

-- Z.

Actually, there is: http://www.vgmuseum.com/systems/te/

Sorry if this one has already been mentioned. I'm just catching up on old posts, and this one seems an obvious one. Zach, maybe your mag could do a story on it?

[ManciGames]

My presence in Manci Games wasn't hyped at all, but wouldn't have reversed its fortunes in any case. Jaysen has admitted that he knew MG was doomed almost from the start.


Well, we did kinda hype it (along with other contributors), but I think the page was only up a day or so because you pulled out so quickly after everything was put to ink. Not complaining, just stating a fact.

And yes, I will reiterate the fact that I knew very close to after Philly Classic (which was right as Issue 1 was shipping) that it wouldn't be financially viable in it's present format or print-run. I'm sure that's probably no shock to you at this point.

[ManciGames]

No one's going to "take the heat" by telling me that I "bullied" them. I'm genuinely curious if anyone besides yourself thinks I've ever attempted to "bully" anyone on this forum.

-- Z.

Uh-oh. Better start a new thread for this one, mods.

Just kidding! Ha! Zach, you know I love you!

[zmweasel]

But there's no precedent for a game company selling a handheld system that costs so much more (in terms of dollars or percentage) than its home console, and that presents a marketing challenge for Nintendo and Sony.

-- Z.

Actually, there is: http://www.vgmuseum.com/systems/te/

Sorry if this one has already been mentioned. I'm just catching up on old posts, and this one seems an obvious one. Zach, maybe your mag could do a story on it?

The TurboExpress was a portable version of the TurboGrafx-16, not an independent handheld system per se. (Same deal with the Sega Nomad, a portable Genesis.) Not to say the TurboExpress wasn't a milestone, but it was also a unique piece of hardware, a high-end version of an existing system. The fact that no one else "called" me on not having mentioned the TE reinforces its oddball status.

Nintendo's marketing challenges with the DS are quite different, although they've certainly done everything right so far.

As for VGC, it's not "my" magazine in that I only supervise the editorial aspects of it, not the financial aspects. And I wouldn't claim it as "my" magazine anyway, considering it's our contributors who make it happen.

We'll discuss the TurboExpress and various other TG topics in an upcoming interview with Jonathan "Johnny Turbo" Brandstetter.

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

What the?!?! How'd I get pulled into this one? I'm just out playing cards with the guys one night, having a good time, and I come back and find this? Anyway, if you guys are really that interested (which I doubt you are), you can all go and look up all of these supposed threads I jumped into so that I could instigate Zach (which I doubt you will). I think the grand total was...one.

Actually, you've injected yourself into this one. And I'm glad you're admitting that you intentionally jumped into at least one thread for no other reason than to continue a feud between us. I don't believe you've confessed to that before.

You were mentioned because Rob mentioned that he wouldn't "ask the mods to step in," or something to that effect, so I explained what happened between us to put his comment into context.


At any rate, I never really had any feud with Zach. I just think he's got a slight ego problem. One which I have no problem fanning the flames of if it will sell a few magazines. So, why doesn't everyone come on over and check out www.mancigames.com and buy a copy of Issue 2, which features a review and news by none other than our own game-guru, Zach Meston, a legend in his own mind...I mean time!

I know you disliked how I threw my game-magazine experience in your face, but I wouldn't call that an "ego problem" on my part. I merely wanted MG to be (much, much) better than it was. You had your own vision for what MG should be, and my suggestions were summarily dismissed. C'est la vie. That's why I moved on to VGC. Of course, it's easier for me to move on when I don't have a big pile of MGs in my garage. (Mine is filled with copies of The Mummy Returns Official Strategy Guide.)

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

Well, we did kinda hype it (along with other contributors), but I think the page was only up a day or so because you pulled out so quickly after everything was put to ink. Not complaining, just stating a fact.

Oh, okay. I never saw that page when it was up, so I wasn't aware that I'd been mentioned before the recent update to the MG site.

-- Z.

[ManciGames]

Of course, it's easier for me to move on when I don't have a big pile of MGs in my garage. (Mine is filled with copies of The Mummy Returns Official Strategy Guide.)

-- Z.

I'll probably never "move on" from Manci Games. I'm no journalist (as you've pointed out many times before) and MG was more a "for the love of the game" type of project. That's why I kept my day-job (plus, it's a really nice day-job). As much fun as MG was to do, I have no interest in becoming a video game journalist, or something similar. I assume it's a tough market to make any real cash in, and I really never had any interest in leaving one successful career to pursue another one from the ground up. I just wanted to help put retro gaming into the hands of its fans. I think the crew at MG has succeeded at that in more ways than one.

And I can't believe I'm actually going to refute this obvious flame-bait, but here goes anyway: We printed thousands of copies of MG #1 and #2. Of those, I've got about 500 copies of each (which is about 6 boxes all together) left. Believe it or not, MG sold well and continues to sell well (just not well enough, you see). They aren't piled in the garage. Heck, most of them aren't even in my house, since I don't personally mail out the ones we are still selling.

And for some reason, I'm not sure that a deeper involvement by ZM in MG would have made it "much, much better." One just need take a look at your examples as an EIC and see that there isn't really a marked improvement. I'm not saying it's bad, you see. I'm just saying that it's definitely not "much, much better." But maybe one day it will be. I wish you luck!

[ManciGames]

The TurboExpress was a portable version of the TurboGrafx-16, not an independent handheld system per se. (Same deal with the Sega Nomad, a portable Genesis.) Not to say the TurboExpress wasn't a milestone, but it was also a unique piece of hardware, a high-end version of an existing system. The fact that no one else "called" me on not having mentioned the TE reinforces its oddball status.


Hasn't there been talk from Sony about buying the same game for both systems, playing a couple levels on the PS3 and then having the option to continue playing on the PSP (and vice-versa)? That's a similar idea, no? It's just that they are making the phenomenal business decision to require you to buy two versions of the same game to do it.

But *technically*, you are correct. So, you've got that going for you.

[zmweasel]

I'll probably never "move on" from Manci Games. I'm no journalist (as you've pointed out many times before) and MG was more a "for the love of the game" type of project. That's why I kept my day-job (plus, it's a really nice day-job). As much fun as MG was to do, I have no interest in becoming a video game journalist, or something similar. I assume it's a tough market to make any real cash in, and I really never had any interest in leaving one successful career to pursue another one from the ground up. I just wanted to help put retro gaming into the hands of its fans. I think the crew at MG has succeeded at that in more ways than one.

I don't recall claiming that you weren't a journalist. I said you weren't an editor.


And for some reason, I'm not sure that a deeper involvement by ZM in MG would have made it "much, much better." One just need take a look at your examples as an EIC and see that there isn't really a marked improvement. I'm not saying it's bad, you see. I'm just saying that it's definitely not "much, much better." But maybe one day it will be. I wish you luck!

I certainly wouldn't expect you to favor VGC's editorial style over your own, Jaysen, nor to say anything complimentary about my efforts. Fortunately, I have many sources of unbiased, constructive criticism to draw upon.

-- Z.

[zmweasel]

[Hasn't there been talk from Sony about buying the same game for both systems, playing a couple levels on the PS3 and then having the option to continue playing on the PSP (and vice-versa)? That's a similar idea, no? It's just that they are making the phenomenal business decision to require you to buy two versions of the same game to do it.

I'm not aware of any PSP games thus far with the feature you describe, which sounds like a simple transfer of save-game data, so that one version of the game can recognize a player's progress in the other. But that feature's just a natural extension of what Nintendo established with GBA/GC connectivity, with consumers required to purchase two versions of a game in order to unlock all the features in both.

-- Z.

[ManciGames]

I certainly wouldn't expect you to favor VGC's editorial style over your own, Jaysen, nor to say anything complimentary about my efforts. Fortunately, I have many sources of unbiased, constructive criticism to draw upon, and I'm my own harshest critic--whereas you enjoyed basking in the glow of positive feedback, as evidenced by your opening blurb in your second and final issue.
-- Z.

I'm sorry if it offends you that most of the feedback we got was positive. There were definitely those who didn't like it though (as evidenced by the "I no longer want a subscription" reader letter we published in issue 2).

I'm not sure what you are referring to in the "opening blurb." We talked about the "great feedback" we received that led to changes to the mag. By "great feedback," I meant "well thought out and constructive," not necessarily "positive." Actually, I think the entire second half of the opening blurb describes all the changes we made to issue #2 based on the feedback from issue 1. I'll quote:

"We received a lot of great feedback for Issue 1, and we've already begun molding the magazine into what you want it to be. Check out the revamped price guide. We've added over 650 new games to the listings, and Joe Santulli has provided a first-rate intro to let everyone know just what exactly it is you are wading through for those eight pages. We've also clarified the taglines that accompany certain section headers, added more pictures, and improved our formatting. Is it perfect? Hell no..."

Doesn't sound like a mag not open to suggestions, but maybe I'm biased. At any rate, it's all rather moot at this point anyway. But, I'm still happy that you guys have an example of how to be open to suggestions for your EIC gig. As you know, constructive feedback only makes things better.

And with that, I'll conclude my responses to you in this thread. I gave you the last word last time, and I think we had agreed that I would get it this time. Hopefully we can hold to our agreement. Next time, you'll get it again. Until then...

[SoulBlazer]

I can't tell if these two love each other or hate each other. LOL :D

[zmweasel]

And I don't buy that PSP price point for a damned second. Spare me. Sony didn't get to where it is today by being stupid. They know that they need to get their price down as low as possible if they have a chance to capture the portable market. I expect them to take a real loss on the hardware to make PSP competitive.

My guess right now? $250 or less.

A very nasty thread retrieved from Limbo to point out that Daniel (and SoulBlazer) hit the PSP's price point on the head.

It's fascinating to look back at these speculative threads.

And I wish someone had taken me up on the $1000 bet. :)

-- Z.

[Avenger]

i love looking back at the start of this topic....its a classic :)

[Jasoco]

First, citing Nintendo-fanboi websites as credible sources for Sony news is like expecting Fox News Channel to give you "fair and balanced" reporting on John Kerry's campaign.
Guess who said this. ;)

[SoulBlazer]

Hey, I posted in this thread? I forgot not only about my posts but the thread itself! LOL

Thanks for the compliment, Zach. I honestly espected Sony to release the system at $250, but I thought they would sell both a bundle at $250 and a bare bones at $200. I was surprised to see that was'nt the case. At least I'm happy knowing I got the price right. ;)