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demented-yoshi
10-08-2004, 08:54 PM
Listen to this-from xbox.com
About there halo update
Be Prepared for Nov. 9!
We know you’re counting the hours until November 9, 2004, so we want to help you use the time more productively. That way, when the great day arrives, all you have to do is get your copy, pop that sucker in, and start kicking ass.
The Essentials
A copy of the most anticipated game of 2004: Halo® 2. (Obviously!)
And this-The special edition kicks ass. We’ve seen it, touched it, drooled on it. (But we wiped it off.)
Oh don't worry Miicrosoft I'll be prepared to have to put up with that annoying little brat In my tech class who said its gonna be the best game ever. And I will also we prepared for the stampede of nerds that will run me down on my way to any video game store.Thanks for the annoyance about that game that I have to deal with everwhere I go.
I think that the people who wrote that are obsessed with the buttocks by the many times they used the word 'ass'
El CiF
10-08-2004, 08:56 PM
well i think halo 2 WILL kick ass but cmon microsoft, you guys arent the gods of video games. jesus christ
Algol
10-08-2004, 09:01 PM
*sigh*
I work in a Media Play, where they play the ad for this game in the demo kiosk CONSTANTLY. Worst of all, it's turned up so loud, I can hear it on the other side of the store. It might be a good game, but I don't see how this will EVER live up to the hype.
Emily
10-08-2004, 09:32 PM
I didnt like Halo *ducks beneath table* and Im not excited about the next one. Hearing the hype about these games just wears on me.
I LOVE bosses!!!Where are the Bosses???
max 330 mega
10-08-2004, 09:36 PM
halo is horrible , i could care less about this stupid stupid game.
Promophile
10-08-2004, 09:39 PM
Hrmmm *looks at his title* yeah.
Mr.FoodMonster
10-08-2004, 10:09 PM
Yeah, Halo = teh suck. There are like, 10 XBox nerds that seem to think Halo is where videogaming began, and I want to fucking KILL them. Its sooo damned annoying. I was talking about how mario rules, and then he brought up Halo. I gave him the dirtyiest look possible, and continuted on with my conversation, only speaking a lot louder then him.
slip81
10-08-2004, 10:12 PM
I've yet to play the first Halo, I've seen most of those Red vs. Blue shorts though.
kainemaxwell
10-08-2004, 10:12 PM
Kids need to learn about life pre-Halo.
Graham Mitchell
10-08-2004, 10:23 PM
Yup, with the release of Halo 2, we're now one step closer to anything I liked about video games being phased out completely! Yay! :D
spoon
10-08-2004, 10:29 PM
I myself am excited about Halo 2. Maybe you guys need to get out and make some friends to play the game with? :P
People went nuts over goldeneye, but trash halo, I don't get it?
Ah well, I will be getting my copy soon enough. Goodbye to my nice comfy pillows.
Promophile
10-08-2004, 11:11 PM
People went nuts over goldeneye, but trash halo, I don't get it?
Goldeneye was good.
Graham Mitchell
10-08-2004, 11:46 PM
I have the same problem with Goldeneye that have with Halo. Goldeneye got old fast. With Halo, the process was of getting bored was even quicker due to the oversaturation of FPS's that most people were experiencing at that time.
NintendoMan
10-08-2004, 11:52 PM
I didnt like Halo *ducks beneath table* and Im not excited about the next one. Hearing the hype about these games just wears on me.
I LOVE bosses!!!Where are the Bosses???
SAME HERE. Didn't really like Halo as well. So could really give a shit about Halo 2. And with all this hype it is going to be hard to live up to it.
This is off topic but the most anticipated game to me is GOLDENEYE!! When I reserved it tonight the manager of the store I went to said the game was awesome!! By far the best game of the year, to him. He managed to get his hands on some kind of demo of it.
Ed Oscuro
10-08-2004, 11:53 PM
What? Goldeneye had variety in spades, plus the cheat codes kept it going. No sense arguing against your opinion, but it's a fact the game had a ton of variety in play - more than most any FPS since, I'd wager (and I've played a lot of them).
Back on topic...I read through XBN some. I've started to feel really strongly in recent times that Halo was very much a woeful game, and the constantly high reviews it gets makes me afraid to pick up any game for any modern console in fear of the consequences.
That said, Halo 2 is on track to completely wipe the floor with Halo, possibly DOOM ]I[ - and quite likely Half-Life 2 as well. We'll have to wait and see, but you have to admit not a lot of folks can make a good FPS these days.
NintendoMan
10-08-2004, 11:56 PM
I myself am excited about Halo 2. Maybe you guys need to get out and make some friends to play the game with? :P
People went nuts over goldeneye, but trash halo, I don't get it?
Ah well, I will be getting my copy soon enough. Goodbye to my nice comfy pillows.
Well, saying that would be like saying that all FPS's are the exact same.
I for one, don't like Halo but LOVE GOLDENEYE!! To me, maybe it just has to do with the levels or characters or something. But to me, that HALO can't even compare to GOLDENEYE. But first person shooters are probably my best and most played genre.
Can't wait for the release of GOLDENEYE: ROGUE AGENT.
:)
Barbarianoutkast85
10-08-2004, 11:57 PM
Ive played it multiplayer a couple times and I thought it was as good as any other cool 1st/3rd person shooter out there.
NintendoMan
10-08-2004, 11:58 PM
What? Goldeneye had variety in spades, plus the cheat codes kept it going. No sense arguing against your opinion, but it's a fact the game had a ton of variety in play - more than most any FPS since, I'd wager (and I've played a lot of them).
That said, Halo 2 is on track to completely wipe the floor with Halo, possibly DOOM ]I[ - and quite likely Half-Life 2 as well. We'll have to wait and see, but you have to admit not a lot of folks can make a good FPS these days.
The top comments are very true.
But, we'll see what the new goldeneye can do. I wonder if EA has it in them?
scooterb23
10-09-2004, 12:28 AM
No mouse + No keyboard = Me not caring about Halo-esque games on consoles...but man, I want Halo on my computer...
petewhitley
10-09-2004, 01:39 AM
Halo wasn't the best game ever, but if you say Halo/Halo 2 sucks/ain't shit/pale next to the "new" Goldeneye/etc.: You're a damn fool. Get off yer freaking high horse and respect a damn fine series.
ubersaurus
10-09-2004, 01:56 AM
Apparently I'm the only Halo supporter here. My theory-Halo is popular, and thus should be hated on, because liking the popular thing isn't "cool". As to whether or not people are doing this consciously, is irrelevant.
Halo 2 will be game of the year, EASILY.
soniko_karuto
10-09-2004, 02:31 AM
halo sucked ass.
golden eye sucked ass.
it all depends from the point of view you have.
jerkov
10-09-2004, 02:54 AM
I never actually played Halo, but to be honest, it looks about as appealing as playing E.T. for the 2600. I am not a huge FPS fan, so that may have something to do with it, but I still play 4-player Goldeneye and Perfect Dark and have a blast. Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with it - I am eagerly awaiting the releases of GTA: San Andreas and Gran Turismo 4, which should both outsell Halo 2 by a nice margin. Sorry, Halo does not look like my type of game, and no one I know has any interest in it either.
Promophile
10-09-2004, 03:11 AM
Apparently I'm the only Halo supporter here. My theory-Halo is popular, and thus should be hated on, because liking the popular thing isn't "cool". As to whether or not people are doing this consciously, is irrelevant.
I liked Goldeye and Perfect Dark when they were just as popular as Halo. I like GTA 3 / GTA VC. I have no problem with popular games. I liked FF6, FF7, Chrono Trigger ect ect. The biggest reason I hate Halo so damn much is because it doesn't DESERVE to be in the same ranks as these games. It has a generic Sci Fi plot, Generic Sci Fi Aliens, Ships, HORRIBLE HORRIBLE boring character models. I get to chose ONE FREAKING CHARACTER MODEL FOR MULTIPLAYER!!! 1!!! And this is supposed to be the most uber game ever? Horrible gameplay, you can only pick up 2 guns (strategy or challenge have nothing to do with it, having 2 guns at a time is BORING). It's about as generic of a FPS as you can get. I could go on but you get my point.
Halo 2 will be game of the year, EASILY.
First off, you have no idea, the freaking game isn't even out yet. I wish people wouldn't pass judgement until they play the damn game. If I were to guess, I'd say that GTA: SA will kick it's ass in sales, and I'm going to assume gameplay. You can't do much with FPSers.
Fact 1: More people own a PS2.
Fact 2: GTA is the "Halo" of the PS2.
nintendan
10-09-2004, 03:29 AM
Yeah, I would say GTA:SA will be GotY. If not, it will be runner-up. I'd love to see Metroid Prime 2 beat them both, but it aint' gonna happen.
Oh well.
Nintendan
thegreatescape
10-09-2004, 03:57 AM
you can only pick up 2 guns (strategy or challenge have nothing to do with it, having 2 guns at a time is BORING)
Tis called immersion my friend. Makes the game feel more realistic when your NOT a walking armory. Halo is a good game, the only reason i didnt like it personally was because the floaty physics got to me (im a jumpy jumpy person).
Right about here is where i usually say that RTCW: ET pwns all, but a funny thing happened the other night while i was playing ET on my fav Aus server.. A player with the name Bratwurst and a D*P tag came on, so if it was you bratwurst, ET rocks and give it time to grow on you :D
LiquidX01
10-09-2004, 04:02 AM
I knew this thread would turn into this, just like every thread that involves Halo.
I never actually played Halo, but to be honest, it looks about as appealing as playing E.T. for the 2600.
Dude thats a joke right? I can understand you dont like Halo, but to say its as appealing as E.T. on the 2600 is a bit far. Reading some of the negative comments are a bit far also. To say that "Halo Sucks Ass" is lame. I bet even you dont believe that. If you dont like a game because its not your type of game or whatever the reason is, dont come out with a stupid comment like that. Its not the gameplay that "sucks ass". Because talkiing about the game in general, it doesnt. Seems like if Halo was on a mullti-platform half the people wouldnt talk shit.
As for Game of the Year, Too soon to tell but l'd put my money on it.
I like Halo, and Yes I will be getting my copy at midnight. So shoot me!! :D Its a good game that doesnt get the respect it deserves. Wonder why..... :roll:
ubersaurus
10-09-2004, 05:11 PM
This is just Kleppe-worthy, right here.
Apparently I'm the only Halo supporter here. My theory-Halo is popular, and thus should be hated on, because liking the popular thing isn't "cool". As to whether or not people are doing this consciously, is irrelevant.
I liked Goldeye and Perfect Dark when they were just as popular as Halo. I like GTA 3 / GTA VC. I have no problem with popular games. I liked FF6, FF7, Chrono Trigger ect ect. The biggest reason I hate Halo so damn much is because it doesn't DESERVE to be in the same ranks as these games.
(So what's bad about Halo? Oh right, Microsoft made it.)
It has a generic Sci Fi plot,
(See: Perfect Dark)
Generic Sci Fi Aliens,
(Because the predators are inherently the same thing as a Grunt, you mean?)
Ships,
(OH COME ON! The Pillar of Autumn is so obviously an homage to Aliens that to rip on that would be a rip on Aliens.)
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE boring character models.
(Yes, god forbid that you where some kind of protection when you go to combat aliens.)
I get to chose ONE FREAKING CHARACTER MODEL FOR MULTIPLAYER!!! 1!!!
(And your point? I seem to recall there being to reason to play as any character model in goldeneye but Oddjob due to his height, or PD's alien/human head combo. At least it's a level playing field in Halo.)
And this is supposed to be the most uber game ever?
(It's supposed to be a damn good game, a damn fun game, maybe not the best ever made, but it's still a killer app.)
Horrible gameplay,
(IT'S A FUCKING FPS! The only difference between this and others of the genre is that this one is slower paced, and not "fill the land of with bullets" like, say, Goldeneye was.)
you can only pick up 2 guns (strategy or challenge have nothing to do with it, having 2 guns at a time is BORING).
(You may think its boring, but seriously, do you NEED more then two guns at any given time? It's not really an issue. Just don't be an idiot and grab a needler and an assault rifle if you're planning on doing some distance combat, and you'll be fine).
It's about as generic of a FPS as you can get.
(no. The World is Not enough is a generic FPS. South Park was a generic FPS. A game that moves at a unique pace, that doesn't force you to chance weapons to do melees or grenades, one that rewards forethought, that's about as far from generic as you can get. You already said that it only lets you use two weapons at a time-does every FPS do tht? If not, then this game is NOT generic.)
I could go on but you get my point.
(The only point I'm getting here is that you just hate Microsoft, and are going to judge everything they put out with a bias.)
Halo 2 will be game of the year, EASILY.
First off, you have no idea, the freaking game isn't even out yet.
(This is true, I don't know. But from everythign I've heard from Bungie, this game is going have an awesome multiplayer, a good engine, more sweet story, and I don't see anything else that's come out so far this year that will be able to top it.)
I wish people wouldn't pass judgement until they play the damn game.
(You certainly seemed to do that for Halo. Did you try playing it on a high difficulty level? Have you been involved in a large scale multiplayer battle with good players? I'm guessing not, and coupled with this obvious bias, you clearly never gave Halo a fair shake.)
If I were to guess, I'd say that GTA: SA will kick it's ass in sales, and I'm going to assume gameplay.
(Behold! >> pass judgement!)
You can't do much with FPSers.
(Except give them a storyline whose depth is comparable to good RPGs, and make them damn fun party games.)
Fact 1: More people own a PS2.
Fact 2: GTA is the "Halo" of the PS2.
(OK, what the fuckhill does that have to do with ANYTHING? More people owned a PS1 then an N64, and Ocarina of Time was game of the year. A good game is a good game on any platform, but it's obvious that you just plain hate MS, don't care for FPS's in general, have no desire to do anything more then turn a deaf-ear on anyone who can refute your claims of "Halo has no story" or "Halo is generic".)
Half Japanese
10-09-2004, 05:24 PM
I think a lot of you that don't understand the hate for Halo and the love for Goldeneye are missing one important aspect of this argument:
Goldeneye was on a Nintendo system, and thus can do no wrong.
I get tired of seeing shit about the game too, but I'd much rather be saturated with ads for a game that turns out playable than one that will line bargain bins for the next decade after it's similarity to a turd is reported (see: Turok Evolution). Nintendo fanboys have to be the funniest to watch/read/listen to, and at the same time the most pathetic.
Avenger
10-09-2004, 05:25 PM
i love how at DP all topics seem to turn into "Halo Sucks"...
and so ill join in too!
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
Halo 2 on the other hand looks pretty damn good seein as how everythin i hate about Halo...has been fixed
Ed Oscuro
10-09-2004, 05:39 PM
GTA may be considered a system-seller for the PS2...and then again it wasn't the system-seller. I didn't hear of anybody saying they were going to run out and get a PS2 for the game, especially as it's available on the PC and XBox as well. Another difficulty here is that Halo was a system launch title; Halo wasn't.
My thought is that the closest thing to a "Halo" on the PS2 looks to be either the Area 51 game or Killzone.
LiquidX01
10-09-2004, 05:40 PM
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
So how does the "biggest dissapointment" get Game of the Year? :hmm:
izret101
10-09-2004, 06:11 PM
I get sick of any game being hyped up beyond reasonable need. When a game is that hyped 90% of the timei dont get it.
The last megahyped game i bought before Fable was Golden Eye but that was done tastefully. It wasnt an in youre face WE ARE THE BEST WERE ARE GAME OF THE YEAR. KICK ASS IN THE GAME AND KICK PEOPLES ASS TO GET IT.
I will not get Halo 2 unless it comes packaged with something or is cheap Unless i get the Promo in which case both of the other statements are false. :D
kai123
10-09-2004, 06:29 PM
Nintendo fanboys are the scum of the earth. Nintendo is not the god of gaming either. They suck compared to the 2 leading consoles. Which are the PS2 and Xbox. Halo is one of the best FPS games released and kills Goldeneye with a plasma grenade. What is bad is that I love Nintendo I just hate the fans of Nintendo.
ScottK
10-09-2004, 07:46 PM
I'll be camped out before midnight to get my copy and I know like 10 other people in my area who will be camping out too. I don't believe that Halo was the best game ever made, but it is in my Top 20. People who say that they don't like Halo are probably the same people who thought that Mario 64 sucked when it came out.
Ed Oscuro
10-09-2004, 08:01 PM
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
So how does the "biggest dissapointment" get Game of the Year? :hmm:
I remember it was a hard fought battle to the polls! You had a choice of Halo and...well...Not Halo!
Reason: There was no breadth to the XBox library at the time (arguably, it's still pretty thin, getting better of course).
tritium
10-09-2004, 08:09 PM
The only god of gaming is Sega, and they're dead. a dead god is no use to anyone....
Ok enough with the fantasy type drama. I'm apathetic towards halo and xbox, but I like the idea of a hard drive in a console... hmmm storage....
-Trituim
izret101
10-09-2004, 09:19 PM
I have more Halo 2 promotional crap than i do games for all 3 of the current systems i bet. LOL
It was all just givin to me and there was still tons left they were trying to get rid of.
I dont think it will live up to the hype it is getting though. Because in another 5-6 months another game will have all the same features but they will probably be used more effectively.
It happens with every game that does really good.
kai123
10-09-2004, 10:20 PM
I have more Halo 2 promotional crap than i do games for all 3 of the current systems i bet. LOL
It was all just givin to me and there was still tons left they were trying to get rid of.
I dont think it will live up to the hype it is getting though. Because in another 5-6 months another game will have all the same features but they will probably be used more effectively.
It happens with every game that does really good.
Really? What game did that with the original Halo? Or Gta? Or Metal Gear? Hmm please enlighten me.
ubersaurus
10-09-2004, 10:43 PM
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
So how does the "biggest dissapointment" get Game of the Year? :hmm:
I remember it was a hard fought battle to the polls! You had a choice of Halo and...well...Not Halo!
Reason: There was no breadth to the XBox library at the time (arguably, it's still pretty thin, getting better of course).
This is the same year that saw Rogue Leader, Smash Bros. Melee, and if memory serves, Metal gear Solid 2, all coming out. For Halo to top all of those games isn't because the XBox library sucked.
slurpeepoop
10-09-2004, 11:20 PM
Halo 2 will be game of the year, EASILY.
If there is a god, Rome: Total War will get that title.
Unfortunately, since Halo 2 already has umpteen bajillion preorders, I'm guessing poor Rome never stood a chance.
Promophile
10-09-2004, 11:42 PM
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
So how does the "biggest dissapointment" get Game of the Year? :hmm:
I remember it was a hard fought battle to the polls! You had a choice of Halo and...well...Not Halo!
Reason: There was no breadth to the XBox library at the time (arguably, it's still pretty thin, getting better of course).
This is the same year that saw Rogue Leader, Smash Bros. Melee, and if memory serves, Metal gear Solid 2, all coming out. For Halo to top all of those games isn't because the XBox library sucked.
It topped because back then the X-box libarary DID suck. What other titles launched with it? I can't even remeber em, thats how horrible they were.
Sebastian
10-10-2004, 12:08 AM
Listen to this-from xbox.com
About there halo update
Be Prepared for Nov. 9!
We know you’re counting the hours until November 9, 2004, so we want to help you use the time more productively. That way, when the great day arrives, all you have to do is get your copy, pop that sucker in, and start kicking ass.
The Essentials
A copy of the most anticipated game of 2004: Halo® 2. (Obviously!)
And this-The special edition kicks ass. We’ve seen it, touched it, drooled on it. (But we wiped it off.)
Oh don't worry Miicrosoft I'll be prepared to have to put up with that annoying little brat In my tech class who said its gonna be the best game ever. And I will also we prepared for the stampede of nerds that will run me down on my way to any video game store.Thanks for the annoyance about that game that I have to deal with everwhere I go.
I think that the people who wrote that are obsessed with the buttocks by the many times they used the word 'ass'
I still personally fail to see WHAT THE HELL is the big deal about halo.
OK...so it is the best shooter for X-box....and? Is it my personal best FPS ever? of the year? God...of the month? NO! There are so many good FPS games out there. Halo is not bad - but compared to other "non x-box" FPS games...its just an avrage (or below) game.
Nothing special here!
LiquidX01
10-10-2004, 12:30 AM
It topped because back then the X-box libarary DID suck. What other titles launched with it? I can't even remeber em, thats how horrible they were.
:roll:
Another thoughtless comment!
Oddworld: Muches Oddysee , Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2X, Project Gotham Racing, Dead or Alive 3......
Were all launch titles, Not the best in history, But Horrible????, I think NOT!!
Boy is that Nintendo comment about Fanboys holding up....LOL
Ed Oscuro
10-10-2004, 12:30 AM
This is the same year that saw Rogue Leader, Smash Bros. Melee, and if memory serves, Metal gear Solid 2, all coming out. For Halo to top all of those games isn't because the XBox library sucked.
I"d forgotten that enough people were crazy enough to have said that it was Game of the Year PERIOD. Well, no matter. Halo 2 is going to show everybody once and for all what Bungie can do when they do it properly.
Yes, I remember DOA3 just as well. That title has fallen off everybody's lists quite sharply, it seems.
Promophile
10-10-2004, 05:11 AM
It topped because back then the X-box libarary DID suck. What other titles launched with it? I can't even remeber em, thats how horrible they were.
:roll:
Another thoughtless comment!
Oddworld: Muches Oddysee , Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2X, Project Gotham Racing, Dead or Alive 3......
Were all launch titles, Not the best in history, But Horrible????, I think NOT!!
Boy is that Nintendo comment about Fanboys holding up....LOL
The only game on that list I semi-care about is DoA3. There is one game I forgot about though, Jet Grind Radio Future. It's sad how much that game rocks and how little respect it gets. Anyways I have all the systems blah blah, I'm a fan of games not systems ect ect. If theres a fanboy here its the person(s) touting Halo as the best game in the history of the world :roll: .
Avenger
10-10-2004, 05:24 AM
Halo = the most overhyped game EVEr and the biggest disapointment...
So how does the "biggest dissapointment" get Game of the Year? :hmm:
i call that the "Halo Conspiricy"
Ed Oscuro
10-10-2004, 05:34 AM
Another thoughtless comment!
Oddworld: Muches Oddysee , Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2X, Project Gotham Racing, Dead or Alive 3......
I haven't played Project Gotham Racing, but I tried out the demo for Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee, and it was nothing special. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater is a bit of fun, and one of the best games around at the time...but again, I'm not going insane thinking about the time playing it I'll be missing while asleep. It's a good deal of fun, but a GOTY? Shouldn't be close. Just another type of platformer, with worse levels but much cooler moves (that does count for a lot, though!). I just mentioned DoA3, too.
I played Airforce Delta Storm on the 'Box more than all the rest of those combined, so what do I know?
Dahne
10-10-2004, 06:17 AM
This is the same year that saw Rogue Leader, Smash Bros. Melee, and if memory serves, Metal gear Solid 2, all coming out. For Halo to top all of those games isn't because the XBox library sucked.
Whose game of the year are we talking about, anyway? A magazine's? Cthulhu forbid, IGN's? I don't care how rabid a following it has, there is no way Halo could be better than Metal Gear Solid 2. Unless it automatically endows anybody who buys it with a lifetime unlimited supply of strawberry mousse Pocky, it can't come close to matching the grandeur of a game with a bisexual Romanian vampire, a severed limb capable of possessing its host, and a batshit AI that quotes TS Eliot. It just can't.
But that's all opinion. Which is all the whole thing is, really. :)
Someday, I'd like to see if there are nearly as many fanboys in existence as there are people who profess to hate them.
ubersaurus
10-10-2004, 02:56 PM
It topped because back then the X-box libarary DID suck. What other titles launched with it? I can't even remeber em, thats how horrible they were.
Yes, I suppose compared to the N64's launch lineup of a whole 2 games, that is quite a bit to remember.
You're a fool if you think I'm an MS fanboy who thinks Halo is the best game ever. I know it's got flaws, but that still puts it above GE. I'm being realistic here-even with the deadlines that rushed Halo, Bungie still put together a fun game, with a good engine, good AI, and a good story. Even they were surprised it was as popular as it ended up becoming, and there's no doubt in my mind that with Halo 2, with the time they wanted for the first game to finish it, they'll make an exceptional console FPS. I mean, look at Goldeneye-Rare was rushed when they made it, and it was great-I played the hell out of it. Then they made Perfect Dark, which, if at least on multiplayer, was far superior to Goldeneye. And considering I played the hell out of Halo, I'm expecting the same effect, for me, as PD had. But as it is, Halo is on my personal top 10 games list, so it bugs the hell out of me to see people rip on it constantly on this site.
Who's the bigger fanboy here-the man blindly attacking a game, or the guy defending one of his favorite games?
LiquidX01
10-10-2004, 05:29 PM
There is one game I forgot about though, Jet Grind Radio Future. It's sad how much that game rocks and how little respect it gets. If theres a fanboy here its the person(s) touting Halo as the best game in the history of the world :roll: .
I dont remember anyone saying Halo was the best game in history.
I found that funny how you said "how much jet grind radio rocks and how little respect it gets". So how can you bash someone for feeling the same way about Halo??? :roll: Oh thats rights, because its Halo.....
LiquidX01
10-10-2004, 05:30 PM
Damn double post. :o
Ed Oscuro
10-10-2004, 06:04 PM
There is one game I forgot about though, Jet Grind Radio Future. It's sad how much that game rocks and how little respect it gets. If theres a fanboy here its the person(s) touting Halo as the best game in the history of the world :roll: .
I dont remember anyone saying Halo was the best game in history.
GameSpy's PC section - whom I usually place a great deal of trust in - said that the PC port was quite possibly the greatest FPS of all time, by many peoples' standards.
Lots of folks have said Halo was the best game in history.
That said, I could care less about Jet Grind Radio Future. At least so far.
LiquidX01
10-10-2004, 08:12 PM
There is one game I forgot about though, Jet Grind Radio Future. It's sad how much that game rocks and how little respect it gets. If theres a fanboy here its the person(s) touting Halo as the best game in the history of the world :roll: .
I dont remember anyone saying Halo was the best game in history.
GameSpy's PC section - whom I usually place a great deal of trust in - said that the PC port was quite possibly the greatest FPS of all time, by many peoples' standards.
Lots of folks have said Halo was the best game in history.
That said, I could care less about Jet Grind Radio Future. At least so far.
I meant no one said "Halo was the best game in history" in this thread.
Ed Oscuro, Im a bit confused on where you stand on this subject... LOL
Ed Oscuro
10-10-2004, 08:18 PM
I meant no one said "Halo was the best game in history" in this thread.
I figured, but thought I'd bring it up anyways. See, some folks out there DO say that...and if GameSpy's doing it... :O
RetroYoungen
10-10-2004, 09:01 PM
I'm a huge fan of Halo (wow, what a surprise by the replies in this thread, eh?), but I don't think it was that bad a game (I didn't get to play it as long as some of you guys, maybe that's why). Someone early on brought up Goldeneye as superior to Halo, and I just wanted to bring my opinion on that. A few of the things I liked about Goldeneye compared to Halo:
1. Goldeneye was James Bond, and I like James Bond. Master Chief just wasn't very deep from what I remember.
2. Goldeneye ISN'T that realistic. Any game where I have enough space to hold a sniper rifle, a rocket launcher, an AK-47, and however-many other guns, and can use all of them, I like. The more guns, the better. I don't want a video game to be "realistic"; I want a game where I get to shoot a bunch of stuff and watch shit blow up.
At least in my opinion, one game being Nintendo and the other Microsoft has very little to do with it. I'll admit, it does a tiny bit... but not enough for me to bash Microsoft.
FantasiaWHT
10-10-2004, 09:21 PM
Wow you people are crazy.
Whoever said Xbox and PS2 are the top two consoles knows nothing... worldwide PS2 and GC kill Xbox. Still. It wasn't THAT long ago that GC was outselling Xbox in America, either.
People need to settle down. And get some objectivity. I can't stand Halo, (I've hated nearly every FPS I played) and have disliked the Xbox as a whole since it came out, but I'm not bigoted enough to fail to recognize Halo as a very high-quality game.
Hakkenden
10-10-2004, 09:25 PM
Halo was kinda fun sometimes. But I prefer Fable when it comes to X-box games. But then again X-box is my least favorite new console. But Im slowly moving towrd buying one because I cant keep fom playing Shenmue II anymore. Well back to topic Holo II might be alright and I dont dout that it will do well but it wont be my kinda game.
dracula
10-11-2004, 01:07 AM
halo 2 should be good but i think it will boil down to how well the online multiplayer is implemented. goldeneye is the best multiplayer game, along with saturn bomberman. the thing that kills star wars battlefront is all the guys on the online multiplayer just shoot anything that moves, even if we are both empire soldiers, they shoot me anyways. :puke:
they dont even look at what they are shooting, so playing halo2 with 12 dozen guys like that should be interesting challenge
captain nintendo
10-11-2004, 02:07 AM
Gee I dont look a DP for a weekend and this thread I looked at friday afternoon did exactly what I thought it would do :roll:
It turned into a I hate Halo / fanboy thread. Granted everybody is entitled to thier own opinions , but to say Halo sucked is a pretty shallow statement.
Good game IMO and Halo 2 will be better with alot of new stuff and fixed flaws :-P
Guess what ? I am buying it and I dont care what the haters think :P
Ed Oscuro
10-11-2004, 02:27 AM
to say Halo sucked is a pretty shallow statement.
Not if good reasons are given! As you said, we're in the realm of opinions here, not facts, but I stand by my conviction that it would've been much better had the team been given enough time to work on it. I personally love Halo, but I'm not blinded by these pretty new graphics. I can play something that looks like it came out of a dead rat's eye as long as it plays well, and there's a few areas in Halo that are lauded for being "the best ever" that I find lacking. Namely multiplayer and story. However, count me out of Halo bashing.
I'm just trying to bring the "you said Halo isn't that great! Going against the opinions of everybody is wrong and evil!" camp back down to earth. Of course, I'm seeing that my reasoning has flaws too; so I'm happy for the responses I've gotten! Well, as long as I don't piss anybody off, of course.
ubersaurus
10-11-2004, 02:36 AM
to say Halo sucked is a pretty shallow statement.
Not if good reasons are given! As you said, we're in the realm of opinions here, not facts, but I stand by my conviction that it would've been much better had the team been given enough time to work on it. I personally love Halo, but I'm not blinded by these pretty new graphics. I can play something that looks like it came out of a dead rat's eye as long as it plays well, and there's a few areas in Halo that are lauded for being "the best ever" that I find lacking. Namely multiplayer and story. However, count me out of Halo bashing.
I'm just trying to bring the "you said Halo isn't that great! Going against the opinions of everybody is wrong and evil!" camp back down to earth. Of course, I'm seeing that my reasoning has flaws too; so I'm happy for the responses I've gotten! Well, as long as I don't piss anybody off, of course.
If it helps, I'm not pissed, I know Halo has places where it could be much improved, which is one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Halo 2 as much as I am.
I do think the statement that GE was Bond does say alot though-People know James Bond, they know his background, his enemies, and Goldeneye was, after all, a movie as well. Halo didn't have any of those luxuries-hell, you don't even learn much of anything about the Chief in-game. I guess that's one of the reasons Perfect Dark never was as popular as Goldeneye...
Ed Oscuro
10-11-2004, 02:42 AM
Another reason for Goldeneye not being as popular was that, at least for myself, I had different priorities than putting my money into that game - I was still perfectly happy with Goldeneye, most importantly. That, and I barely knew it existed until maybe a year after it was released (but my memory's sort of shaky on that account). When I got a N64 a year or so into the system's release, there were luckily a few good titles on the shelves - though I emphasize "few" :P
Promophile
10-11-2004, 03:31 AM
Wow you people are crazy.
Whoever said Xbox and PS2 are the top two consoles knows nothing... worldwide PS2 and GC kill Xbox. Still. It wasn't THAT long ago that GC was outselling Xbox in America, either.
Most of the people on this site are American so... I think it does make sense. I've given many reasons why Halo sucks. Well I take it back, it doesn't SUCK, but it's about as average as you can get. The sheer amount of X-box fanboys that think its a above average game is the reason I HATE it.
buttasuperb
10-11-2004, 09:30 AM
Christ, what an idiotic thread.
OMFG I R COOL I H8 HALO GO NINTENDO
Hep038
10-11-2004, 11:13 AM
The sheer amount of X-box fanboys that think its a above average game is the reason I HATE it.
OK so you think it is a average game, but because other people think it is above average you hate the game?? See this is why people hate fanboys. What kind of logic is that? For the people who come on this thread and said " its not my type of game so I don't like it" I respect that. They admit it could be the best game ever, but they don't care because its not their type of game. But you hate it because people like it more than you. So I am going to assume that if people dislike games you like then you like the game even more? And i agree with some people on this topic, if the great almighty Nintendo made this game, most of the haters would be asking there parents for a halo theme party for their birthday. Everybody would have to wear master cheif party hats and then they would go in the basement and run around with flashlights and cap guns.
FantasiaWHT
10-11-2004, 11:38 AM
Does hating fanboys for the sake of hating fanboys put you in the same category is them?
Methinks yes.
fahrvergnugen
10-11-2004, 01:18 PM
RTCW: ET pwns all
Quoted for truth.
WE NEED AN ENGINEER!
THE TANK IS PAST THE SECOND BARRIER!
Hep038
10-11-2004, 03:08 PM
Does hating fanboys for the sake of hating fanboys put you in the same category is them?
I think you meant to say "the same category as US."
I really don't hate fanboys. I find their post very entertaining, which is the reason I come to these boards to be entertained. But Some times their logic just confuses me.
demented-yoshi
10-11-2004, 03:26 PM
Can we all just stick to the topic I brought up?
Instead of this fanboy crap I'm sure there are plenty of other topics you argue about that.
captain nintendo
10-11-2004, 03:30 PM
I really don't hate fanboys. I find their post very entertaining, which is the reason I come to these boards to be entertained. But Some times their logic just confuses me.
"These boards" are not as bad as the immature sites. Fanboyism doest own dp like other sites. Gee I know my dp name screems Nintendo fanboy , but I enjoy any and all games.
EDIT: sorry about the fanboy thread jack..... However it kind of was about xbox fanboys in the first place wasnt it ?
Anyhow. My opinion about Halo and Halo 2 are stated above for the sake of being on subject. ;)
Hep038
10-11-2004, 03:39 PM
You are right, I am sorry for taking this OT. I think Microsoft has to be cocky about Halo 2. Because if halo 2 is a bust its going to piss off a lot of Xbox owners who have been waiting for a long time for this game to come out. It would be like a hail mary pass being dropped at the end of a game. people standing around thinking " I waited all this time for this?"
Bratwurst
10-11-2004, 06:16 PM
Right about here is where i usually say that RTCW: ET pwns all, but a funny thing happened the other night while i was playing ET on my fav Aus server.. A player with the name Bratwurst and a D*P tag came on, so if it was you bratwurst, ET rocks and give it time to grow on you :D
T'wasn't I.
fahrvergnugen
10-11-2004, 08:35 PM
"Halo 2 is a lot like Halo 1, only it's Halo 1 on fire, going 130 miles per hour through a hospital zone, being chased by helicopters and ninjas ...
And, the ninjas are all on fire, too."
Everybody loves flaming ninjas!
Ed Oscuro
10-11-2004, 08:37 PM
Christ, what an idiotic thread.
OMFG I R COOL I H8 HALO GO NINTENDO
There's quality posting in here if you look for it.
I'm obviously NOT, seeing what I just replied to... ;P