Is there an actual *rare* Xbox game?

[dbiersdorf]

I look at a system like the GameCube, which in a way came out around the same time as the Xbox, has the same graphics and such, but it manages to have a handful of rare titles. Games like Cubivore, Bust a Move 3000, NCAA College Basketball 2K3, Gauntlet Dark Legacy all pull in a pretty nice amount of money on eBay and are extremely hard to come by, but I look at a system like Xbox where I can't put my finger one even one title that can hold the same.

Is there a single Xbox game that is even worth any sort of money then it should be worth? I'm guessing some Capcom fighting games are one of the few if any, but as of now I can't think of one.

[norkusa]

I don't know how rare it is but the Xbox Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 sells for a bit on Ebay (I sold a sealed copy there a couple months ago for $70). I know House Of The Dead III used to be rare before it was re-released and Fatal Frame is pretty hard to come by too. Battle Engine Aquila is an impossible one to find.

I think the SNK games like SVC Chaos and Metal Slug 3 may be future Xbox rarities because I ever see them in stores.

[dbiersdorf]

Yeah I figured as much, the Dreamcast Capcom fighters were always considered rare, and it would only be a matter of time before the Xbox versions did as well.

Either way I'm glad I picked up Metal Slug 3 when I did.

[Dk_slammer]

I know back when i used to work for the local video game store the rarest xbox game was Airforce delta storm, but then the rereleased it about 6 months after it came out.

[Slipdeath]

I don't know how rare it is but the Xbox Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 sells for a bit on Ebay (I sold a sealed copy there a couple months ago for $70). I know House Of The Dead III used to be rare before it was re-released and Fatal Frame is pretty hard to come by too. Battle Engine Aquila is an impossible one to find.

I think the SNK games like SVC Chaos and Metal Slug 3 may be future Xbox rarities because I ever see them in stores.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8156424248&rd=1
not that bad of a price really

[Half Japanese]

Personally, I'd keep my eyes on both Phantom Crash and Deathrow. Both had relatively small print runs and were largely shunned not only by the major gaming media, but also by gamers in general. It's a huge plus that both are fantastic games.

[ghostangelofcky]

There was one game for the Xbox, damnit I can't remember the name but Joe stuck it in that Collectors Closet column of his. Something about it being recalled due to it had part of a religous prayer in the background music and it pissed some people off, I beleave it was re-released just minus the BGM part.
Your gonna have to get Joe or someone else with that issue to give out the title, sorry

[Lemmy Kilmister]

There was one game for the Xbox, damnit I can't remember the name but Joe stuck it in that Collectors Closet column of his. Something about it being recalled due to it had part of a religous prayer in the background music and it pissed some people off, I beleave it was re-released just minus the BGM part.
Your gonna have to get Joe or someone else with that issue to give out the title, sorry

It was Kakuto chojin. Theirs actually a thread about it going on right now.

[chrisbid]

for the life of me, i cannot find a copy of toejam and earl III anywhere. i finally found house of the dead III for 15 bucks yesterday, and i hope to duplicate that find with TJ&E, but my hopes are fading fast :(

[evildead2099]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.

[digitalpress]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.

It's weird how these games are distributed. I don't see TJ&E but there is ALWAYS a copy of Metal Slug 3 in the Gamestop and EB in the mall near my workplace.

[Balloon Fight]

Sneakers is pretty hard to come by. Any exclusive titles seem to be difficult to get. I haven't seen one at TRU in a long while now. Of course you can still find them on ebay, but there are usually only a handfull up at a time.

[evildead2099]

Not a single EB store in my area carried any copies of Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix. Ever. I know because I phoned all the local stores and had them phone other stores within 2 hours worth of distance from where I live.

[briskbc]

Although it's not really a game, Yourself Fitness will probably be a tough item to find later.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8155691053&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[imanerd0011]

I was thinking that the Fitness game will also become a rarity in the future. How many copies of it could they possibly release. It obviously doesn't sell well and probabley won't get a re print.

[LiquidX01]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.

It's weird how these games are distributed. I don't see TJ&E but there is ALWAYS a copy of Metal Slug 3 in the Gamestop and EB in the mall near my workplace.

I have never seen a copy of TJ&E nor a copy of Metal Slug 3 for sale...I did rent MS3 from blockbuster though.

Its pretty strange, many games people have said they haven't seen I see everywhere and the ones they see I dont??? Definately distributed weirdly. :/

[Melf]

It was Kakuto chojin. Theirs actually a thread about it going on right now.

My local Kay-Bee still has a copy for sale for $55! LOL

[dbiersdorf]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.

That's odd I would have no problem getting my hands on a copy of Metal Slug 3 or Silent Hill 2 (seeing as how I own both) but wouldn't be able to run into a Toe Jam for the life of me.

[Slipdeath]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8156602429&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
dick and manual?

[Slipdeath]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.
How much would you want for one?

[racecar]

I don't know how rare it is but the Xbox Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 sells for a bit on Ebay (I sold a sealed copy there a couple months ago for $70). I know House Of The Dead III used to be rare before it was re-released and Fatal Frame is pretty hard to come by too. Battle Engine Aquila is an impossible one to find.

I think the SNK games like SVC Chaos and Metal Slug 3 may be future Xbox rarities because I ever see them in stores.
WTF when did hotd III got re -release ?? i paid $60(cnd) for my used one :angry:

[icarwngs55]

there are 4 copies of cubivore sitting at my gamestop is it actually rare...only 9.99?
O_O

mike

[ubersaurus]

I'd say ultra bust a move could be rare, due to the low availability.

Pinball Hall of Fame also comes to mind.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

It's weird how Marvel Vs Capcom II seemed to suddenly become rare!

I suppose you could also include Steel Battalion and Line Of Contact in this, as they were released in limited numbers, and were hardly ever seen in shops at any point.


Also, don't forget that the GameCube also has Phantasy Star I & II which is quite hard to get hold of too... Mainly because only people with the BB adapter really play it...


The current gen systems are starting to show their rare and hard to find games now though. If I were asked about what I would consider rare or hard to find on the Xbox for the UK region - I would be inclined to say:
Steel Battalion & Line Of Contact
Crazy Taxi III
House Of The Dead III
ToeJam & Earl III
Marvel Vs Capcom II
Rugby Super League
Shenmue II
Dino Crisis III

Although some don't make high money, I would say they were hard to find more than anything...

[dj898]

most of Japan only release would be future rare given the status of Xbox in Japan...

Fatal Frame II S.E.
J-Phoenix+ L.E. w. DVD
Terenezza
Muzzle Flash
ExaSkeleton
Rent A Hero No.1
Digital Venus - bonus DVD given out for pre-order DOAU I believe...
MetalSlug 3 C.E.
Street Fighters 20th Anniversary 1st print batch - got recalled by Capcom
Kakuto Chojin - 1st print recalled by M$
Air Force Delta II - 1st print

from top of my head and probably more...

cheers

[evildead2099]

most of Japan only release would be future rare given the status of Xbox in Japan...

Street Fighters 20th Anniversary 1st print batch - got recalled by Capcom

Why?

[dj898]

it was pressed with world region code - it runs on any of US/JP/PAL Xbox...

[LiquidX01]

I'd say ultra bust a move could be rare, due to the low availability.

Yeah, I had a hard time finding that one. Finally got a hold of the last copy at Circuit City last week.

[evildead2099]

it was pressed with world region code - it runs on any of US/JP/PAL Xbox...

What's wrong with that? Why shouldn't I be permitted to play a game that would be perfectly acceptable to play if I lived in Japan? I'd like to think that this is a matter of Capcom wanting to provide North American audiences with a version of Street Fighter that features English text instead of Japanese characters (not to mention the name mix-up between the likes of M. Bison, Vega, Balrog, etc).

[evildead2099]

it was pressed with world region code - it runs on any of US/JP/PAL Xbox...

My second guess is that this has something to do with NTSC/PAL display settings.

[LiquidX01]

it was pressed with world region code - it runs on any of US/JP/PAL Xbox...

What's wrong with that? Why shouldn't I be permitted to play a game that would be perfectly acceptable to play if I lived in Japan? I'd like to think that this is a matter of Capcom wanting to provide North American audiences with a version of Street Fighter that features English text instead of Japanese characters (not to mention the name mix-up between the likes of M. Bison, Vega, Balrog, etc).

I have been thinking of getting that version instead of holding off till it hit the U.S. Its actually still available at many import sites... :/

[dreamcaster]

I think Gunvalkyrie would be a rarity. I've only ever seen two copies in the wild (one second-hand, one new).

Although, perhaps this is only true in Australia.

Anyone care to comment?

[LiquidX01]

Maybe just in Aus...

I have seen them all over and they are widely available on ebay.

[spoon]

Totaled! is a hard one to come by now. Not a bad game either.

Some of the earler releases are harder to come by now also.

[Slipdeath]

My gamestop has three steel battalion's sitting on the ground for $150.00

[Gemini-Phoenix]

My gamestop has three steel battalion's sitting on the ground for $150.00

Yeah, but that's Gamestop innit.

And are they pre-owned? Quite likely. If they were brand new, they would still be sealed up in their brown packing cases...


Now there's a future rarity - Steel Battalion still inside their brown delivery box's - Surely a factor for collector's?

[Slipdeath]

There not in the boxes, but they are brand new and sealed in the green box thingy

[dj898]

it was pressed with world region code - it runs on any of US/JP/PAL Xbox...

What's wrong with that? Why shouldn't I be permitted to play a game that would be perfectly acceptable to play if I lived in Japan? I'd like to think that this is a matter of Capcom wanting to provide North American audiences with a version of Street Fighter that features English text instead of Japanese characters (not to mention the name mix-up between the likes of M. Bison, Vega, Balrog, etc).

according to M$ it's upto each publisher whether they want to press with region coding or not... some do not bother while majority of them do encode... :angry:
With the component and HDTV I think it's really silly idea to region code anyway...

sure users with old TV via RF or composite might have an issue but they can put the warning on the case...

I wish M$ kept his word and made Xbox region free...

oh wel...

[Nick]

I'd have to agree with Dr. Justin on this one. After doing a little research on Deathrow it looks like it will be one to collect. I've noticed that IGN has an article on their website that says "No sequeal for Deathrow" They say there never will be another one..I also noticed that for whatever reason the review for the game @ IGN is no longer visible (it got a 9.3 btw). After reading all this I decided to buy one....checked half.com...and got a sealed one for $18. :D

[ubersaurus]

most of Japan only release would be future rare given the status of Xbox in Japan...

Street Fighters 20th Anniversary 1st print batch - got recalled by Capcom

Why?

I believe it was due to a sound glitch in Hugo's stage with the DC soundtrack option. Caused a pretty awful noise to shriek at you.

I'm assuming the all region thing probably had something to do with it.

[youruglyclone]

I can get you several copies of Toejam & Earl 3.

I have not seen a single copy of Silent Hill 2 for the Xbox, nor have I seen any copies of Metal Slug 3.

That's odd I would have no problem getting my hands on a copy of Metal Slug 3 or Silent Hill 2 (seeing as how I own both) but wouldn't be able to run into a Toe Jam for the life of me.

ditto I've owned about 3 copies of TJ and E 3 saw someone buy ms3 for xbox last friday so it's not as rare as it seems to be...but that's just me

[vincewy]

On US front :

Confirmed rare title:

Dai Senryaku VII (unless they get more production runs)
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Capcom vs SNK 2 EO
The Guy Game

Near rare titles:

Metal Slug 3
Steel Batallion
Spikeout
Worms 3D
Worms Forts

Potential rare titles in the future:

Galleon
Ultra Bust-A-Move
Guilty Gear X2
SNK vs Capcom Chaos
SF Anniversary (not yet released)
Arx Fatalis
Fatal Frame
Metal Slug 4/5

[Ed Oscuro]

Now there's a future rarity - Steel Battalion still inside their brown delivery box's - Surely a factor for collector's?
*Looks at Astrocade, snorts* LOL

Well, what's the deal with Battle Engine Aquilla? I see a bunch of 'em on eBay.

[Rugal]

I had many copies of TJ&E, got them from TRU. I traded 1 and another game for a brand new GB Player on TGN.....i then later traded the GB Player for a SP.

[dj898]

and I think most of limited edition/special edition/collector's edition/1st print edition would be rare in future over their regualr releases given time...

and throw in those beta copies and some trial demo disc...

[digitalpress]

If anyone is actually looking for NEW sealed Steel Batallions w/controller please let me know. Two of my local shops have several of them, each. PM me and we'll work out the shipping.

[goatdan]

I would say that that of the games that have been named:

Ultra Bust A Move seems to be everywhere in Milwaukee. Toys R Us (where I bought my copy), EB, GameStop, Best Buy and Circiut City all carry it.

Pinball Hall of Fame was impossible to get your hands on for a while, but has since seemed to have become widely available too. I saw at least 25 copies at Best Buy last I went.

Metal Slug 3 is insanely easy to get around here. Everyone still has the game still new and most also have it used. I could probably snag 15 copies of it in a day if I wanted to at about $25.00 apiece.

HOTD 3 is rarer, but I was happy to get a new copy recently for $20.00.

The games that I think will end up being truly rare:

- Intellivision Lives! The Xbox version seems to have not been printed in half the numbers of the PS2 and GameCube counterpart. I just got one new yesterday for $14.99, but it took me forever to find it, and it was the last copy they had.

- The Guy Game - The recall has removed it from the shelves, and it sells extremely quickly and for a lot of money on eBay.

- Yourself Fitness - The problem with this game is that they priced it too high. If the game comes down in price to $20.00, I think a lot more people would purchase it (I would.) For $35.00 though, it is tough to justify.

[bunbunz23]

Is Red Card Soccer 2003 rare? I never see that game in the local game shop in my area and I only know one person that has the game.

[buttasuperb]

damn I forgot about TJ&E3, I need to check that game out.

And yea, I'm sure Metal Slug 3 and SvC will be somewhat OMFG RARE

[rbudrick]

I know some shops (Blockbuster, Target, Best Buy, Wal Mart, etc.) have exclusive titles. I can't think of a single one off the top of my head, but I suppose that allows the potential of making certain titles pretty rare.

-Rob

[fishsandwich]

Sneakers was a TRU exckusive... I heard it sucks, but there you have it.

Cheers

[Ikari Warrior]

Freestyle Street Soccer was a Blockbuster exclusive. I've only seen it twice.

[esquire]

Metal Slug 3 is everywhere here in Metro Detroit. Every store I walk into has it, new or used. Somebody else mentioned GunValkyrie. No way there. It is extremely common. You can pick it used for under $10 at Gamestop or EB, and they have plenty of them.

My Top 10 nominations would be:

Sneakers
Freestyle Street Soccer
Fatal Frame (very hard to find, even when it came out)
Curse: The Eye of Isis
Blackstone: Magic & Steel
Barbie Horse Adventures
Antz Extreme Racing
Arctic Thunder (early release)
Maximum Chase (early release)
Arx Fatalis

I have yet to see Castle Shikagami 2 in any stores near me. I thought this was released already. I almost never see Syberia II (I could be wrong here, but I hardly see it. Only Syberia).

Metal Dungeon, Totaled!, and Auto Modellista are also hard to find.

[l_lamb]

My Blockbuster store has several copies of Freestlye Street Soccer complete for $4.99 for both Xbox and GameCube. That's the national price for corporate stores, so any non-franchise store should have it for that price (unless they sell out). We also have the Outlaw Golf: 9 More Holes Of Xmas for $3.99 sealed, from Xmas 2003.

[dbiersdorf]

Seriously, store exclusives don't mean it automatically becomes rare, Blockbuster has been given dozens upon dozens of copies of that game to all of its stores.

[Ikari Warrior]

We have no coporate BB stores around here, therfore I never see Freestyle Soccer. I saw it once and bought it used for $9 and I probably won't see another for a while. I wish we had one of those BB's around here, I wanted that Akuma controller someday, and I had to go to another state to get those Outlaw holiday games.

[FurinkanianFrood]

I have yet to see Castle Shikagami 2 in any stores near me. I thought this was released already

Yeah, what ever happened with that one? As far as I can tell it never saw the light of day over here. U.S. release seems like probable vapor.

I was waiting to see if it got butchered like some of the other shooters that got brought over here Mobile Light F@#$% *Cough* (not that I would touch the PS/PS2 versions of those games anyway).

I guess I will just have to import the Cube version if I want to play Shikigami 2
(but it sells for too much if you ask me, and the DC version is probably more $$$.)

[GobopopRevisited]

The games I wanted an Xbox for... I can't find:

Panzer Dragoon Orta
Jet Set Radio Future
Toe Jam and Earl III
Otogi: Myth of Demons
House of the Dead III
Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller
Shenmue II
Capcom vs. SNK 2: EO
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Ultra Bust-A-Move
...I did manage to find GUNVALKYRIE at wal-mart though :) ...but the rest? Have completely eluded me :(

And Tecmo sells Fatal Frame at their online store... if anyone really wants it, its there.

[FurinkanianFrood]

The games I wanted an Xbox for... I can't find:

Panzer Dragoon Orta
Jet Set Radio Future
Toe Jam and Earl III
Otogi: Myth of Demons
House of the Dead III
Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller
Shenmue II


Sadly, we live in an age where stores backstock seems to disappear before some people notice games were released. Other than TJandE 3, none of those games seem to have been limited much in quantity (they were all easy for me to locate at some point in time). I am pretty sure that not every single copy of Silent Hill 2 I saw at launch sold through, where are they?

And shouldn't at least Panzer Dragoon and JSRF be Platinum? (I know some of the list above are on the Plat/Budget re-release line in Japan but I can't remember which ones)

I wasn't surprised when all the SegaCD/32X stuff at Funcolands disappeared into nothingness (though it ticked me off quite a bit,) but when did currently supported systems games start getting chucked into the black hole?

Furthermore, why are there so many stores that don't even seem to carry a significant portion of new releases (and I'm talking big national chains now,) but stocked stupidly high amounts of stuff like that last Turok game not long ago? It took them forever to purge the shelves of the countless copies of that one (around her at least). I think malls use games more than a month old as heating fuel or something, along with all of the non-display copies of games.

[suznjak]

at work at eb games in my home town and i see almost all the games everyone is talking about almost daily.about the only one that's rarely seen are metal slug 3 and toe jam and earl.if you can get em hold on to em.

[Kroogah]

The games I wanted an Xbox for... I can't find:

Panzer Dragoon Orta
Jet Set Radio Future


Really? I still see Panzer Dragoon for $20 new at EBGames. And Jet Set Radio Future is all over the place used here, always for $5 or less, even when bundled with Sega GT 2002.

[squidblatt]

Which of these should I buy based on rarity from my local Gamestop? I can only budget for one.

Curse: The Eye of Isis
Metal Slug 3
Panzer Dragoon Orta

All used and complete

[vincewy]

Which of these should I buy based on rarity from my local Gamestop? I can only budget for one.

Curse: The Eye of Isis
Metal Slug 3
Panzer Dragoon Orta

All used and complete

MS3 by a mile, get it while you can.

BTW, JSRF is common because it's bundled with the system for a while with Sega GT, however, sealed and stand lone copy is getting hard to find, I know some people dig that.

[squidblatt]

Has anyone been able to find Frogger: Beyond in their area? I just had the only one I could find within fifty miles transferred to a nearby store for me. It's 25.00 used, but I see it going for around 60 on Ebay.

Also, what about MLS Extratime 2002?

[vincewy]

The games I wanted an Xbox for... I can't find:

Panzer Dragoon Orta
Jet Set Radio Future
Toe Jam and Earl III
Otogi: Myth of Demons
House of the Dead III
Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller
Shenmue II
Capcom vs. SNK 2: EO
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Ultra Bust-A-Move
...I did manage to find GUNVALKYRIE at wal-mart though :) ...but the rest? Have completely eluded me :(

And Tecmo sells Fatal Frame at their online store... if anyone really wants it, its there.

All of the above aren't crazy rare excpet MvC2, CvS2EO, if you don't mind used copies, the rest are easy to find.

Update, Dai Senryaku VII is already rare, only a few days after release, EB and GS are all out of it, one GS in my area says restock is ont he way, but I'm not holding my breath, probably just 1-2 copies and they'll sell quickly.

Maximun Chase is common, my local TRU has it for $6 and no one wants it, IMO, Motor Trend: Lotus Challange is a lot rarer.

[pacmanhat]

Steel Battalion. How can it not be the rarest?

[Wavelflack]

I see copies of Steel Battalion everywhere.

[SuperNES]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8156602429&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
dick and manual?

Ha ha,no thanks, i'll pass.

maybe LOTR:FOTR or greg hastings tournament paintball?

[spoon]

I few I had trouble tracking down.

Knight's Apprentice: Memorick's Adventure
Ultimate Beach Soccer.

I am sure they can be had for a song on E-Bay though. Neither is very good.

two others that may be harder to find

Curse: The Eye of Isis
Carmen San Diego: The Secret of the Stolen Drums.

[dbiersdorf]

Anyone think "The Guy Game" will become hard to find down the road?

[spoon]

Anyone think "The Guy Game" will become hard to find down the road?

Not anymore. It has been put back onto store shelves. Atleast we have been given the ok to sell it at GS.

[vincewy]

OK, another update, looks like Spikeout will be a rare title, although my local EB got 4 copies, some EBs don't get any at all, keep in mind that it says EB exclusive INITIALLY, amazon.com is offerin presell for shipment of April 15th from Target, so who knows, maybe there'll be more than 3600 copies.

[squidblatt]

I'm just wondering how the scene has changed. It seems that many games that were once difficult to find are now pretty common. People have been taking advantage of trade-in enticements offered by GS/EB over the past month or two, and the stock has been piling up. Here's my take (excluding Ebay):

Rare:
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Frogger Beyond
MLS Extratime 2002
Sneakers
Outlaw Golf: Holiday Golf
Futurama

Uncommon:
Fatal Frame
Metal Slug 3
Toejam & Earl 3
Crimson Sea
Spikeout

Common but once considered, or predicted to be, rare:
Otogi 1 & 2
Curse: Eye of Isis
Capcom vs SNK 2
The Guy Game
Dai Senryaku VII
House of the Dead III
Ultra Bust-a-Move
Air Force Delta Storm (but still way too expensive)
Arx Fatalis
Kakuto Chojin

Questionable (what's your take?):
Barbie's Horse Adventure
Red Card Soccer
EA Rugby
EA Cricket
Dragon's Lair 3D
Bloody Roar
Blackstone: Magic and Steel
Sega Soccer Slam
Ultimate Beach Soccer
Battlestar Galactica
Wings of War
Phantom Crash
Aquaman

Of course, if you factor in Ebay, then no Xbox title is rare. There are a few that may be pricey, but nothing difficult to acquire. The only game I mentioned that didn't have at least one listing everytime I looked was MLS Extratime 2002.

[dethink]

if you guys have an FYE at the mall near you, they carry a LOT of OOP/hard to find/non-greatest hits packaged titles for current consoles. i'm assuming they just sit and collect dust there because no one thinks of stopping in there to buy games...

every one i've been in has at least 1 JSRF, PDO, metal slug 3, etc. for sale.

dunno what gives, but there you go... :D

[Gary]

I found Castle Shikagami at a local outlet mall music store near me about 4 months ago. My copy was on PS2, and I have yet to see it on anything else. I bought it and I have never seen another since.

Back before CC had their $4.99 promotion I had seen one copy of Crimson Sea for 49.99, and I didn't buy it. Then came their promotion and I'd read on here that it would be included. I went back and needless to say it was gone. I looked everywhere I could think of for it new and used until I finally found it sealed for $20. Now it's common as hell at EB and local shops.

I'd better go buy the only copy of Dai Senryaku VII that I've seen around here tomorrow morning, if it's still there.