Ebay Classic Gaming Blacklist

[rik1138]

This time, for the Dreamcast Fiasco, I offered NO refund and completely filled the reason block with the rationale. If an UNOPENED/UNTESTED/No Returns accepted listing gets me... Im going to be pissed. PP has a BAD habit of just giving the buyer all the money back, including the money used to actually ship it!

Keep in mind, if you accept PayPal, there is no such thing as a 'no returns' auction. Part of the PayPal agreement is that you MUST accept returns and give a refund if they buyer wants to send the item back to you. They can make up any reason they want for sending it back, as long as they provide a tracking number back to your zip code, PayPal will refund the money pretty much no-questioned-asked. You _AGREE_ to this by accepting PayPal. Your only other option is to set up a merchant credit card account that you use to accept credit cards, but then the buyer can just file a charge-back through the CC company. There is _NO_ guaranteed (legit) safe way to sell stuff on eBay any more. And every day, more and more scumbags realize this.

The only way to protect yourself is to set up a dummy checking account that you don't really use, attach that to PayPal, and withdraw all the money immediately. If you get a charge back, you'll have to open another checking account and PayPal account (since PP will lock the account until you pay the negative balance).

Chargebacks are just one of those things that companies have dealt with since the invention of credit cards, and just write it off as part of their 'acceptable loss'. Unfortunately, this really sucks for people like me that just sell a few things to pay some bills, and can't really afford to suddenly have the money yanked back from, even for one transaction (unless it's only a couple of dollars or something, but it's usually things well over $200...)

On the banning front, definitely avoid a user called 'mamascellar'. (He buys and sells)

Quick version: Bought a sealed game from for $300. Immediately re-listed it (with his own photograph) for $400. When it didn't sell, filed a claim against me through PP claiming the item arrived 'heavily damaged' (never contacted me). Sent me back an empty box (with tracking). PP refunded his money. I filed a police report with LAPD, and on www.ic3.gov. Won't do any good (only $300, nothing to law enforcement), but if he ever gets in trouble with the law for any other reason and they search for it, they'll find the complaint.

I, of course, have all the documents to prove, I even kept the empty box (which was the box I sent the game to him wrapped in paper, and it was still in perfect condition after having been shipped _twice_, so how was the item 'heavily damaged'?) as well as photos and archives of my auction and both times he tried to re-sell the game. He's also been banned from eBay several times before and keeps coming back under different user IDs. (In fact, I see he's NARU'd now anyway, but that's happened several times already so he might come back...)

[darkslime]

jujudaycare

A dumb bitch who doesn't know how to read descriptions.

[ryborg]

jujudaycare

A dumb bitch who doesn't know how to read descriptions.

Ouch, tough neg. Exactly what did they expect? Too bad you left them a positive.

[JSoup]

jujudaycare

A dumb bitch who doesn't know how to read descriptions.

Care to elaborate a bit there, sport?

[darkslime]

Care to elaborate a bit there, sport?Complained about game being cart only even though it was clearly stated in the description and left me a neg about it.

[Bojay1997]

Complained about game being cart only even though it was clearly stated in the description and left me a neg about it.

Actually, I just looked at your listing and it was anything but clear. You used a stock photo which showed the outer case and your listing said it comes with cartridge. It didn't say anything about it being cartridge only. A reasonable buyer could conclude that it was the boxed game like the picture and it included the cartridge.

[Wookie]

Actually, I just looked at your listing and it was anything but clear. You used a stock photo which showed the outer case and your listing said it comes with cartridge. It didn't say anything about it being cartridge only. A reasonable buyer could conclude that it was the boxed game like the picture and it included the cartridge.

ebay should only allow stock photos for items the seller guarantees as new. I don't use them, prefer not to buy from people who do, and believe that a large number of "not as described" complaints stem from lazy sellers using these pristine images to sell used items and buyers who don't know what a stock photo is.

[ryborg]

Actually, I just looked at your listing and it was anything but clear. You used a stock photo which showed the outer case and your listing said it comes with cartridge. It didn't say anything about it being cartridge only. A reasonable buyer could conclude that it was the boxed game like the picture and it included the cartridge.

Fourth sentence in.

"Please note there is no box or manual included."

Sorry, but the buyer was dumb in this case.

[Bojay1997]

Fourth sentence in.

"Please note there is no box or manual included."

Sorry, but the buyer was dumb in this case.

Well, I'm a very experienced Ebay buyer and I looked at the ad pretty closely and I didn't notice that comment, so the listing was not as clear as the seller would let on. Also, there is absolutely no justification for using a stock photo for a cartridge only listing or not putting cartridge only in the listing title.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Ebay member ninjatemper.
Won auction via BIN for my Goldstar 3DO I had listed. Buyer submitted payment via echeck, and not even for the right amount, as he did not give me time to get him a actual shipping quote, so the amount was about 10 bucks short. After denying his echeck I got him a correct invoice, and also requested he do direct funds.

Reason being is due to paypal scams involving echeck payments out of the country. Buyer informs me they will have to do a funds transfer, and it will take around 8 days. Im fine with this, and allow them this amount of time. He makes payment in 9 days time. I also included a free game not listed in the auction with the system, because I forgot to list it in its own auction and didn't feel like messing with it later.

Anyway, in my auction I listed specifically my shipping time, 3-5 business days. I shipped the system off via UPS within this time frame. The buyer just left me feedback drastically lowering my shipping time rating. When contacted about this and that I was going to have to add him to my block bidder list he told me this :

"I'm sorry you feel the need to block me from bidding on items that you list. I gave positive feedback and felt I was honest in the ratings I gave. I do appreciate the extra game you added in to make up for the payment fiasco. I just felt that if I'm paying an extra $40 for this item to the UPS delivery guy on top of the shipping charges I paid to you, it should be arriving sooner than if it had been sent via regular mail carriers. This was not the case. I wish you all the best in your future dealings and am disappointed that the option to buy from you no longer exists for me."

After replying to this and pointing out him having to pay tariffs should not be reflected or taken out on my shipping time or other ratings, he then changed his reasoning to me just taking way too long to ship, and that it wasn't right because I made him use a premium shipping service and did not ship right then after he paid. The service I used had better tracking and was about the same price as USPS, so that made no sense. Especially when he saw the shipping time policy I had listed in the auctions details, and chose to use BIN anyway after not agreeing with it.

Other witty or crazy replies from him amount to him admitting he should have rated me 5 stars, to having him blaming me for him being able to buy my item, that I should block people who cant pay right away. That and me not shipping on the specific day I told him via PM that I would, when I in fact did, which was within the 3-5 business days, and had the shipping receipts and tracking info as proof. He also stated something along the lines of me being able to have shipped faster if I had accepted his original echeck, like I would have shipped out before it had cleared, even if it was for the right amount, which it wasnt....

The guys feedback as a buyer is solid, but ebay doesn't allow sellers to really leave buyers factual negative feedback anymore if there are issues, so who knows what all other wonky escapades this guy has partaken in, and how many other sellers he has messed with. In the end, hes on my block list, and when I get to updating my website again, Ill be adding him to the buyer/seller black list on there. He may be a member on here, who has had great deals for that matter, who knows. If so, great. Just pointing out my issues with him, and that I wont be dealing with him again.

[ryborg]

Well, I'm a very experienced Ebay buyer and I looked at the ad pretty closely and I didn't notice that comment, so the listing was not as clear as the seller would let on.

Well, it doesn't matter if you're Pierre Omidyar. It says very clearly cart only. It's not a long and convoluted item description with 100 paragraphs. The entire description, including the "thanks for looking" line, is all of EIGHT SENTENCES. I can't believe you're arguing this. Christ, just admit you didn't read, just like the buyer.

[JSoup]

Well, it doesn't matter if you're Pierre Omidyar. It says very clearly cart only. It's not a long and convoluted item description with 100 paragraphs. The entire description, including the "thanks for looking" line, is all of EIGHT SENTENCES. I can't believe you're arguing this. Christ, just admit you didn't read, just like the buyer.

Even if he is right. You have to make these auctions clear as impenetrable crystal and having a crucial point burred in the middle of an eight line paragraph doesn't accomplish that.

[Bojay1997]

Well, it doesn't matter if you're Pierre Omidyar. It says very clearly cart only. It's not a long and convoluted item description with 100 paragraphs. The entire description, including the "thanks for looking" line, is all of EIGHT SENTENCES. I can't believe you're arguing this. Christ, just admit you didn't read, just like the buyer.

I'm sorry, but anytime a seller is using a stock photo and not putting cart only in the headline description, there is some deception going on. I'll admit that I am super anal and ask lots of questions before I bid on anything, but I'm not a typical buyer. If you're gonna use a stock photo, it's not unreasonable for the buyer to assume that what is pictured in the photo is included. In this situation, the photo clearly shows an outer case. If I list a loose item on Ebay, I put in caps "Cartridge Only" in the headline and in the body, first thing. I then clarify that instructions and case are not included. Finally, I use actual photos. The seller here did none of these things and while you're right that there is a line well into the description which states the cartridge only is being sold, it just isn't clear from everything else in the listing. I agree that the seller isn't totally at fault, but his attacks on the buyer were inappropriate in light of the problems with his listing.

[rpepper9]

Do yourself a favor. Avoid "ricklldoit".

Long story short, My hometown has been dealing with some serious storms lately so I've been unable to leave home. This person bought something from me on Wednesday, so I sent him a message saying that I would be unable to ship the item until the storms cleared. I offered a partial shipping refund. He wanted a -full- shipping refund. I said I was going to offer a $2 refund because "I charge $3 - $1 is for bus fare and the bubble mailer, the $2 is for postage and any extra costs come out of my own pocket."

This is what he replied:

"bus fair and storms not my problem. mail delivers rain sleet and snow. i
dont really care about the two or three bucks refund. ill see when it gets
here"

I'm expecting a neutral or a negative because of this. Avoid him. :(

Sorry, I side with the buyer: bus fair and storms are not his problem. Neither are all the other excuses I have heard, anywhere from my cat died, to my uncle just got cancer... NOT MY PROBLEM!

[pseudonym]

I'm sorry, but anytime a seller is using a stock photo and not putting cart only in the headline description, there is some deception going on. I'll admit that I am super anal and ask lots of questions before I bid on anything, but I'm not a typical buyer. If you're gonna use a stock photo, it's not unreasonable for the buyer to assume that what is pictured in the photo is included. In this situation, the photo clearly shows an outer case. If I list a loose item on Ebay, I put in caps "Cartridge Only" in the headline and in the body, first thing. I then clarify that instructions and case are not included. Finally, I use actual photos. The seller here did none of these things and while you're right that there is a line well into the description which states the cartridge only is being sold, it just isn't clear from everything else in the listing. I agree that the seller isn't totally at fault, but his attacks on the buyer were inappropriate in light of the problems with his listing.

Digitalpress: We like to argue about nothin!

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Sorry, I side with the buyer: bus fair and storms are not his problem. Neither are all the other excuses I have heard, anywhere from my cat died, to my uncle just got cancer... NOT MY PROBLEM!

I dont know, for me will just depend on how bad the weather really was, and how long the delay would be before Id blame the seller any. If I really doubted the seller, I suppose I could always google road and weather conditions in their area before I go pointing fingers. I really wouldn't expect anyone to risk their own welfare, or their cars, to hit the post office, basically doing something I know I wouldn't be doing myself. And honestly, the mail doesn't actually run in all areas during severe weather anyway, contrary to what they would like you to believe.

When I lived in Fayetteville Arkansas we got ice/sleet storms alot during the winter. On those kinda days, the mail man never ran on our block, or any near by. He would just stick to the safe streets that had no inclines. Cant really blame him. In areas here where Im at now, if the roads get flooded too bad, mail wont run in that area due to them being closed off.

Just cant be helped, mail man isnt going to wade though a lake of water, and the roads get closed down completely. Some spots and neighborhoods in my city and the one near by only have one or two ways in and out, and once they flood, the roads are way under water and people get stuck at home. We had people trapped in my city this last December during xmas due to that in fact. The high way was flooded, as were all the back roads headed out to Sherwood, Loneoke, and Cabot. The weather wasn't predicted to be that bad, so it hit everyone by surprise. People expected a bit of rain, but not massive flash flooding that was going to last days on end. Bad weather around here is always hectic too, not one of those things where we get way in advance or reliable notices.


I don't expect anyone to do what I wouldn't do myself.

[rarecube]

Be aware please of Nick Morgan
He sells all around at different forums . All the games he sells are resealed. Mostly NTSC gamecube.
His got a machine which it does the Y fold.

Some of his ebay names are ;

skcin07
servicegames815
blacklungmedia1
nick.morgan1
nicholas_steven_morgan
servicegames812

Username on forums at Digitpress and cheapassgamer :

Slidee

[Kitsune Sniper]

Sorry, I side with the buyer: bus fair and storms are not his problem. Neither are all the other excuses I have heard, anywhere from my cat died, to my uncle just got cancer... NOT MY PROBLEM!

Well, I hope you like your packages all soggy and wet. Or damaged. Or LOST.

I let the buyer know if there's any problems or delays immediately because I believe in good customer service. And because, unlike a LOT of other eBay sellers, I believe in shipping out my items -within the timeframe specified in my auctions- instead of waiting four days or more to drop something off via Media Mail. If I am unable to ship off the item within the two business days mentioned on my auctions, then I offer partial or full shipping refunds, -at my loss-, because I couldn't fulfill what I had committed to, by no fault of mine.

If a buyer doesn't care about that, well, then he has no business buying from me.

[wingzrow]

Go ahead and block 0redman, he claims the mario bros./duck hunt i sent him is "broken" when i tested it out before selling it. Then I offer him a refund if he returns it but he lies and says I didn't and then negative reps me.

Can anyone tell me how to report this to ebay and possibly get it removed?

[ryborg]

You can't and they won't.

[JSoup]

You can't and they won't.

I haven't actually looked at the process in a number of years, but is it actually gone? It was very well hidden, but there used to be a link to appealing feedback.

[Kitsune Sniper]

You can't and they won't.

Unless it contains naughty words. :(

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/feedback-abuse-withdrawal.html

I remember it could be appealed a while back; I did so myself.

[ryborg]

Unless it contains naughty words.

Ebay now self-censors, so you can't even submit the feedback form with any word even remotely a cuss. I wanted to call someone a lying scumbag a few months ago, and they won't even allow that. If you do find a way around it, yeah, they'll remove that, but I don't think that comes up too often.

[ryborg]

I haven't actually looked at the process in a number of years, but is it actually gone? It was very well hidden, but there used to be a link to appealing feedback.

It's in the same place it always was, but they won't remove a feedback simply because the seller says the buyer lied. The feedback actually needs to violate an ebay policy as seen here:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/feedback-removal.html

[Kitsune Sniper]

hdawn125

This fuck bought a game from me, and then reversed the payment after I sent. And he doesn't have a confirmed address so I'm fucked.

BAN HIS ASS ASAP.

[buzz_n64]

greenninjav

I placed a bid on a game from him, then not too long after, he ended the bidding. This has been done to me before and it's pissing me off. No warning, nothing, well at least I didn't lose any money. I still think it's wrong to close bidding once people are already placing bids on it, freaking sucks.

[ryborg]

I thought this was the Ebay Blacklist thread, not the Ebay Incredibly Minor Inconvenience thread.

[buzz_n64]

I thought this was the Ebay Blacklist thread, not the Ebay Incredibly Minor Inconvenience thread.

Didn't know for sure if it qualified, but I wouldn't do business with him or others that do this. Sorry for posting it then.

[ryborg]

but I wouldn't do business with him or others that do this.

Why? He posted an auction and canceled it a few hours later, with 6+ days remaining. It doesn't look like he has a history of doing this. He's not scamming anyone. I don't see what the problem is.

[kale]

I second "raregamergirl", though it should be noted that her ebay username is ultimate_video_game_connection.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=ultimate_video_game_connection&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

I'm currently having problems with this seller. I bought a guide from them in mid Jan, I've tried to contact multiple times about not receiving it. I finally tracked down the seller's actual e-mail and sent a message there. If that doesn't get their attention I'm opening a dispute.

UPDATE: The seller contacted me, explained she'd been seriously ill for the past several weeks and behind on messages. She refunded me for the lost guide and there was no further issue. I therefore rescind my original complaint.

[darkslime]

I'm sorry, but anytime a seller is using a stock photo and not putting cart only in the headline description, there is some deception going on. I'll admit that I am super anal and ask lots of questions before I bid on anything, but I'm not a typical buyer. If you're gonna use a stock photo, it's not unreasonable for the buyer to assume that what is pictured in the photo is included. In this situation, the photo clearly shows an outer case. If I list a loose item on Ebay, I put in caps "Cartridge Only" in the headline and in the body, first thing. I then clarify that instructions and case are not included. Finally, I use actual photos. The seller here did none of these things and while you're right that there is a line well into the description which states the cartridge only is being sold, it just isn't clear from everything else in the listing. I agree that the seller isn't totally at fault, but his attacks on the buyer were inappropriate in light of the problems with his listing.I wasn't trying to be deceptive at all, that is the generic description I use for everything and if there is no box manual etc I put that at the end. there is no way my camera could get a picture of a cart only ds game where you could even tell what it is because its so small and i have a shitty camera, that's why i used stock photo. most of my listings don't have stock photos and most buyers read descriptions seeing how that is my only negative feedback.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

New one to add, ebay seller rottentreats01. Goes by the same name on computer and gaming forums. Heavy 3DFX collector. Lied on auction description about a VooDoo 4500 pci graphics card. Listed in great condition, was physically damaged. After card was returned seller re-listed it again, still lying about the items condition.
ebay user id link:
http://myworld.ebay.com/rottentreats01

[darkslime]

Block paintballer757.

He left me a positive feedback that says:

"it was ok kinda low quality if it move even a little it friezes up"

He also gave me all 1 stars, which caused me to lose my top rated seller status.

Also, this is on a GBC GameShark. GameSharks are cheaply made and horrible quality, and any GBC game will freeze up if you bump it. How is this my fault? Fucking bullshit.

[The 1 2 P]

Be aware please of Nick Morgan
He sells all around at different forums . All the games he sells are resealed. Mostly NTSC gamecube.
His got a machine which it does the Y fold.Slidee

I didn't know they had machines that make those. How authentic does it look?


hdawn125

This fuck bought a game from me, and then reversed the payment after I sent. And he doesn't have a confirmed address so I'm fucked.

BAN HIS ASS ASAP.

As long as you have proof that you mailed it than it doesn't matter if his address is confirmed or not. Tracking numbers FTW!

[UnpluggedClone]

Google 4 gaga

[pseudonym]

I forgot who ultimate_video_game_connection is exactly, it's either raregamegirl or dkoldies. Both have poor reputations here and NA.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Wow, why are so many of his feedback ratings marked as private? That can't be normal...

[ryborg]

But seriously i've never seen a user with more bad feedback.

You've never seen worse than 98.7%? Did you register your ebay account last month?

[darkslime]

got another fucking neg on ebay:

not received. tracking # says they have it. complaint filed.

stupid piece of shit gave me the WRONG ADDRESS, it got returned to sender. Now he trying to blame me for not contacting him and making sure his order details are up to date! wtf!!! username is doofus27*10, i would block.

[ryborg]

Looks like he gave negs to everyone he's bought stuff from recently. You would think mongoloids like this would realize the problem is on their end when 4/4 transactions ended in the same way. This might be one of those really rare instances where alerting ebay to the matter might make a difference.

nice neutral btw... you totally deserved that one

[darkslime]

Looks like he gave negs to everyone he's bought stuff from recently. You would think mongoloids like this would realize the problem is on their end when 4/4 transactions ended in the same way. This might be one of those really rare instances where alerting ebay to the matter might make a difference.

nice neutral btw... you totally deserved that onehaha, that neutral pissed me off too. it even said in the listing that the game had fucking scratches on it. i hate ebay sometimes.

[Smashed Brother]

I recently received my first neg on ebay. This piece, millwood2point0, bought a perfectly fine SNES game from me. He then negs me, while saying 'Good' in his feedback! So I contact him asking what the problem was. He says that he left me positive feedback, but that he might have hit the wrong selection because he was using an iphone. So, I email him back, asking if he could revise the feedback. I hear nothing back, and I still have the neg. I even sent him the official request form and still....no response, no revision, and now it's expired.

It might only be one neg, but since I'm relatively new on ebay, the impact is pretty huge. What pisses me off more is that he acknowledged the fact that he left the wrong feedback, but he refuses to change it! He also negged another seller for a defective game, even after the seller refunded him. I'm not saying that he necessarily deserves to be blacklisted, but I guess just be aware if this dude bids on anything of yours. I already blocked his fat ass from any of my future auctions.

[ryborg]

I recently received my first neg on ebay. This piece, millwood2point0, bought a perfectly fine SNES game from me. He then negs me, while saying 'Good' in his feedback! So I contact him asking what the problem was. He says that he left me positive feedback, but that he might have hit the wrong selection because he was using an iphone. So, I email him back, asking if he could revise the feedback. I hear nothing back, and I still have the neg. I even sent him the official request form and still....no response, no revision, and now it's expired.

It might only be one neg, but since I'm relatively new on ebay, the impact is pretty huge. What pisses me off more is that he acknowledged the fact that he left the wrong feedback, but he refuses to change it! He also negged another seller for a defective game, even after the seller refunded him. I'm not saying that he necessarily deserves to be blacklisted, but I guess just be aware if this dude bids on anything of yours. I already blocked his fat ass from any of my future auctions.

Ebay will remove this. If it's clearly meant to be a positive feedback accidentally left as a neg, an ebay staffer can take care of it right away.

[Diatribal Deity]

alpenskin . From Russia. Has some crazy mailing address. Feedback looks good until you look at feedback he has left for others. Block him before he buys something from you then files a claim.

[ryborg]

Ouch. Gotta love the 38 neutrals he left for "goodsentertain."

[Diatribal Deity]

Ouch. Gotta love the 38 neutrals he left for "goodsentertain."

First person I've ever reported to Ebay. Hopefully they do something. Got a moderately amusing yet seemingly non-looking-form letter from Customer Support saying he is on one of their lists and will be monitored closely now. Seems he's flown under the radar for too long.

[wingzrow]

Go ahead and add Member rick_pont to the list.


So this guy from australia buys this game from me, and then it arrives and i get this message. For any of you tech savy wii hackers, the problem he mentions about the continuously rolling screen is a copy protection set up by nintendo for that game to keep people from playing backup copies off a regular dvd or external hard drive. He's opened a paypal dispute now because he cannot play his american game on his australian system. The worst part about this is i'm most likely going to lose this dispute because paypal doesn't give a damn & always sides with the buyer.

"hello mate...
the game i recieved today.. super mario wii does not even work... it goes to the opening credits and when it gets to the world it just freezes!!! i have already left negative feedback and will be posting the item back tomorrow morning... so can i please get your postal address... also i have been on to paypal resolution centre and asked for my money back... so hopefully we can work this out..."

[JSoup]

Go ahead and add Member rick_pont to the list.


So this guy from australia buys this game from me, and then it arrives and i get this message. For any of you tech savy wii hackers, the problem he mentions about the continuously rolling screen is a copy protection set up by nintendo for that game to keep people from playing backup copies off a regular dvd or external hard drive. He's opened a paypal dispute now because he cannot play his american game on his australian system. The worst part about this is i'm most likely going to lose this dispute because paypal doesn't give a damn & always sides with the buyer.

"hello mate...
the game i recieved today.. super mario wii does not even work... it goes to the opening credits and when it gets to the world it just freezes!!! i have already left negative feedback and will be posting the item back tomorrow morning... so can i please get your postal address... also i have been on to paypal resolution centre and asked for my money back... so hopefully we can work this out..."

Being that Paypal DOESN'T care, maybe if you help the guy get the game working he'll back off? If he's willing, a modded Wii can forcibly boot in an region setting.

[wingzrow]

Well then I would be aiding him in wii hacking and that's not exactly something I want to do. I might link him to a site or something but 'm not going to go about telling him step by step how to hack his system. He left me bad feedback BEFORE trying to resolve the issue so that tells you the state of mind the person is in. Probably some kid.

[ryborg]

The worst part about this is i'm most likely going to lose this dispute because paypal doesn't give a damn & always sides with the buyer.

This is true, but he has to mail it back with tracking, which is fairly expensive. Most international buyers aren't going to part with $12-15 just to get most of their money back. I'd just let him continue with the Paypal dispute.

Sucks that he left a neg though. Why did you even bother selling a NTSC game to Australia?

[Dark_Sol]

alpenskin . From Russia. Has some crazy mailing address. Feedback looks good until you look at feedback he has left for others. Block him before he buys something from you then files a claim.
Why should he be blocked? Any decent reason besides the fact that he's from Russia?

[megasdkirby]

Why should he be blocked? Any decent reason besides the fact that he's from Russia?

Well, I checked the feedback he left for others, and he does have a tendency to blast others if things don't go his way. Some of the feedback I saw reflect the idea that he does not read descriptions and then penalizes the seller for his own wrongdoing. For example, seller says "Shipping to US Only" yet he places a bid and wins, so either he did not read or did so on purpose.

I would also block him from my auctions. The feedback he has left says alot about him, so I rather not deal with unnecessary headache to be honest. He just seems to be one of "those" buyers.

[Dark_Sol]

Sometimes sellers agree to ship worldwide and they send you shit and you leave neg them and they start saying bullshit nonsense as "hey it was USA only in the first place".
Assuming how much things this guy buys (142 feeds recieved in 6 months), the 5 negatives he left is not that bad. Assuming two of them are for one seller who definitely had an issue.

I also leave neg more and more feedbacks as more and more sellers tend to care less about buyer nowadays. They send damaged crap listed as mint, wrap in paper instead of using boxes and so on..

[megasdkirby]

Sometimes sellers agree to ship worldwide and they send you shit and you leave neg them and they start saying bullshit nonsense as "hey it was USA only in the first place".

Agreed. However, if the seller at the beggining (or on the listing itself) says "US Only", and someone from Australia bids, the seller is not at fault. Yet many times, they get a negative for the actions of an illiterate buyer. It clearly stated "US Only", yet why does the seller have to pay for the buyers own doing?

Now, if the seller agreed then backed out, or the seller stated that he/she would ship internationally, then I agree that the seller is at fault.


On GameGavel, I state for instance that I will NOT accept paypal payments via Credit Card or E-Check, yet I get buyers that still send payment that way. I simply decide to not choose payment, then I contact the buyer telling them why. 100% of the time they admit that they did not read my terms. Sigh.


Assuming how much things this guy buys (142 feeds recieved in 6 months), the 5 negatives he left is not that bad. Assuming two of them are for one seller who definitely had an issue.

That's still too much, IMO. You need to weigh in the actually deserved negative to something that was probably the buyers fault. And I bet a few of those negatives was because of buyers fault. However...


I also leave neg more and more feedbacks as more and more sellers tend to care less about buyer nowadays. They send damaged crap listed as mint, wrap in paper instead of using boxes and so on..

Agreed as well. I've noticed that recently, many sellers seem not to care about item condition and solely about money. Although this is natural (we are all selling to make money), the seller is still responsible on how they ship it (as it has to arrive in the same condition stated in the listing). Many use inadequate packaging (bubble mailer for a cardboard box game), yet they don't want to be held responsible for damage during shipping. Or they state one shipping method, you pay for that, and they use a cheaper method to ship your item (which many times is slow as all hell, like Media Mail or Parcel Post). Currently, I purchased a Jaguar game (a pretty rare and expensive one too) and the seller stated "Priority Mail" as the shipping method. The guy sent it out "Parcel Post". I don't plan on giving the person a negative (unless something really bad occurs), but I will give him a positive explaining my thoughts and rating him accordingly on his DSR's. There is no need to really give negative for any thing, when you have other tools at your disposal.

[Kitsune Sniper]

For example, seller says "Shipping to US Only" yet he places a bid and wins, so either he did not read or did so on purpose.

If the seller doesn't check the "Block bidders from areas I don't ship to" checkbox then it's his own fault.

[Dark_Sol]

know what, megasdkirby, at first i was a very nice guy on ebay. It's been for years. And people were ripping me off here and there. A lot of people own me hundreds of dollars. Only in last couple of years i have the guts to leave negatives for the shit people do. And i am completely honest with all the feedback. If i get shit and i cannot work it out with the seller then it deserves negative only. Not fucking neutrals and no positives of cause! Cause it's easy to overlook.

[megasdkirby]

I totally agree with you, Dark_sol. :)

Before, things were much different. But I noticed that after the feedback fiasco, things have gone sour at a faster rate than ever before. In the last two years I've given twice as many negatives (which is still very few) than I ever did on Ebay. Sure, retalliation was a factor, but I too took chances with some well deserving negative sellers back then.

Now...I don't know what the hell happened. Poor customer service, piss poor packaging used by some sellers, making a profit by changing shipping method (after stating another method)...the list goes on. It surely wasn't this way before, though.

I will admit that I hate giving negative feedback or positive feedback when I know I won't get any in return. Sure, feedback is useless for buyers, as a feedback of one is the same as a feedback of 100, thanks to Ebay's feedback blunder. Still, if I took time to leave feedback, well you get my drift. But when a seller deserves it, I have no remorse. Last negative was for the guy who sold me the copy of Buster Douglas for SMS, since he not once stated that it was ripped on the back of the box. I tried to resolve this, his he had one bitchy attittude. So I stop the discussion and gave him a negative. After that, I don't recall giving negatives, but I have given positives with well deserves low DSR's.

[Diatribal Deity]

Why should he be blocked? Any decent reason besides the fact that he's from Russia?

Just take a quick look at the feedback this buyer has left for others as I suggested in my original post. You wil see a few trends.

(1) Buyer frequently bids on auctions that clearly state UK only or US only (multiple times).

(2) Buyer tries to negotiate cheaper shipping costs without tracking.

(3) Buyer has been accused of bidding under an assumed name.

(4) Buyer focuses on sellers with stellar feedback like myself (although I do not fear negs, I have never received one in nearly five years of buying and heavy selling). He did not neg me by the way.

I sell internationally all the time. Don't mind shipping anywhere including Russsia on multiple occasions. I, however, do believe where there is smoke there is fire. And this buyer is a literal smoke machine.

[Dark_Sol]

All these 4 points are kinda made up.
I, myself bid on 50% of auctions that are US only and UK only. And i talk with seller before that.
Cheaper shipping? I am all over it! International shipping costs a tonn. I always select cheaper shipping for cheap stuff. I ain't gonna purchase Express Mail for a 1 cd.
3) Where is that?? What you mean??
4) this is kinda stipid point and i don't get it at all. LOL. Should we focus on 50% feedback guys then? Of cause i'd buy from super sellers.

[megasdkirby]

I, myself bid on 50% of auctions that are US only and UK only. And i talk with seller before that.


That's the thing. You talk to the seller beforehand before bidding. That is excellent.

However, what if the buyer never contacted the seller before placing a bid? If the buyer never did, it's his fault, not the sellers. If he did, it's the sellers fault.

I agree with Kitsune, though:


If the seller doesn't check the "Block bidders from areas I don't ship to" checkbox then it's his own fault.

[Dark_Sol]

Kinda yes, but transaction can be cancelled easily.

[Diatribal Deity]

All these 4 points are kinda made up.
I, myself bid on 50% of auctions that are US only and UK only. And i talk with seller before that.
Cheaper shipping? I am all over it! International shipping costs a tonn. I always select cheaper shipping for cheap stuff. I ain't gonna purchase Express Mail for a 1 cd.
3) Where is that?? What you mean??
4) this is kinda stipid point and i don't get it at all. LOL. Should we focus on 50% feedback guys then? Of cause i'd buy from super sellers.

Replies to negative feedback he has given out even after being refunded in many cases...

"has got at least 13 refunds from uk sellers. clearly we are a soft touch. AVOID!"
"Not fair. I offered refund but wants refund and the game"
"Russia for a pound???? how does that work???"
"THIS BUYER SETS POSTAGE COST THEM PAYS IF YOU DO NOT AGREE HE GIVES A NEGITIVE "
"Made 2nd chance offer due to buyers persistant threats,so refunded money asap!"
"Prompt Comms and replied to all Buyer's msg's but buyer presistant threats"
"Became agressive as wouldn't bring p&p costs down so relisted as wasting my time"
"this person is only one ever to leave me negative feedback. what does that say!"
"sorted out through resolution centre. no need to leave negative feedback now"
"Bad Buyer. Would recommend everyone to avoid this buyer like the plague"
"This buyer has even bid under an assumed name so that he can leave bad f/back"
"Unfair, this buyer has left bad feedback for 7 trans that never happened"
"You live in Russia, my advert advised United Kingdom only, I gave you a refund!"
"Please be warned, he makes issues to try to get cheaper prices. Unpleasant!!!!"
"What a liar!!! The games were sent then you tried getting a refund !!!!!LIAR"
"He was blackmailing me with negative feedback. Beware sellers"

Not sure why you feel inclined to defend this guy. Sellers with excellent feedback tend to give quick refunds and instant positive feedback. He knows this and takes advantage. I give instant positive feedback once payment is received and refunds when I deem it valid. This was not valid and I made him file a claim.

It has taught me an important lesson to check out feedback left by buyers as well as feedback received. Especially due to the nature of the system now.

[ryborg]

Kinda yes, but transaction can be cancelled easily.

Yes, but the seller doesn't get 100% of fees back. You also lose all of your page hits and watchers.

[Dark_Sol]

Replies to negative feedback he has given out even after being refunded in many cases...

"has got at least 13 refunds from uk sellers. clearly we are a soft touch. AVOID!"
"Not fair. I offered refund but wants refund and the game"
"Russia for a pound???? how does that work???"
"THIS BUYER SETS POSTAGE COST THEM PAYS IF YOU DO NOT AGREE HE GIVES A NEGITIVE "
"Made 2nd chance offer due to buyers persistant threats,so refunded money asap!"
"Prompt Comms and replied to all Buyer's msg's but buyer presistant threats"
"Became agressive as wouldn't bring p&p costs down so relisted as wasting my time"
"this person is only one ever to leave me negative feedback. what does that say!"
"sorted out through resolution centre. no need to leave negative feedback now"
"Bad Buyer. Would recommend everyone to avoid this buyer like the plague"
"This buyer has even bid under an assumed name so that he can leave bad f/back"
"Unfair, this buyer has left bad feedback for 7 trans that never happened"
"You live in Russia, my advert advised United Kingdom only, I gave you a refund!"
"Please be warned, he makes issues to try to get cheaper prices. Unpleasant!!!!"
"What a liar!!! The games were sent then you tried getting a refund !!!!!LIAR"
"He was blackmailing me with negative feedback. Beware sellers"

Not sure why you feel inclined to defend this guy. Sellers with excellent feedback tend to give quick refunds and instant positive feedback. He knows this and takes advantage. I give instant positive feedback once payment is received and refunds when I deem it valid. This was not valid and I made him file a claim.

It has taught me an important lesson to check out feedback left by buyers as well as feedback received. Especially due to the nature of the system now.
He's an ass indeed. I already warned our russian gaming community. I think something must be done.
What is really bad that he threatens sellers and bids on UK and US only auctions A LOT.

[Gapporin]

Stay far, far away from save*exchange.

I sold this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130407273348&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT) which included two Treo 650 phones and a slew of accessories. The phones are the important part. She wins the auction. When she pays, she hands me down a laundry list of requests, including:

- Ship in a Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope
- Refund her $2 (note that I always charge by weight)
- Send out the package *that day*

Now, I may have been in the wrong, but I didn't think all that was necessary (besides, all of the items wouldn't have fit in a Flat Rate envelope). So, I package it up like any other package, pay $8 for Priority (she only paid for Parcel Post), have it shipped that day (I decided to honor that part) and consider the matter a done deal.

Until I got this message:


I ONLY GOT ONE CELL PHONE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER CELL PHONE, I HOPE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU SOON BEFORE I CONTACT EBAY ABOUT THIS CASE.

And yes, she always typed in capitals. Now, I'm 90% sure that I included both phones. And if the package was tampered in some way, I figured that would have been pretty evident. So I respond:


I honestly don't know what to tell you. I'm 90% sure I put both cell phones inside the package. If one was missing, I think there would have been a noticeable weight difference. If I come across it, I will definitely send it out to you, but I don't know what to tell you otherwise. If you still feel the need to contact eBay, go ahead. But I am being completely honest, and the fact that I've never received a negative will stand behind that.

So she contacts eBay. Go figure. She tells them:


"I PURCHASED A LOT OF TWO CELL PHONES AND I ONLY RECEIVED ONE IN THE MAIL, I REALLY NEEDED THE TWO CELL PHONES, I CONTACTED THE SELLER TO KNOW ABOUT WHY THE OTHER ONE WAS MISSING, BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED BACK."

So I offer her a partial refund. I mean, even if one phone did get lost, she has one phone secure plus all the accessories intact. She throws it back in my face and escalates the case. eBay, of course, sides with her.

So now I have to give her a full refund, and she has to return the items. Who's willing to bet that once I get the items back, surprise, surprise, one phone is missing. Where could it be? Hmmm...

And she left this negative for me, which effectively popped my feedback cherry:


DID NOT RECEIVE WHAT I PAID FOR, TRIED PARTIAL REFUND, BUT LESS THAN HALF

I may have acted wrongly, I don't know. But the smell of pungent BS has wafted over this since the first day. Caveat venditor...

[ryborg]

I may have acted wrongly, I don't know.

Nope. That's pretty dumb, but such is life selling on ebay. You can't please everyone, no matter how hard you try. If it makes you feel any better, I got negged on July 9 by a Canadian who paid on the 4th of July. The item hadn't arrived yet. Clearly my b.

[Ryaan1234]

In defense of save*exchange, it seems he/she doesn't usually give out negative feedback.

On the other hand, take a look at the negative feedback they've received as a seller.... Deceptive much?

(Left for a dress.)
"Did not receive what I paid for...(sz 12 was stapled to a size 6 to deceive)"

If I were you I'd check the phone you get back as soon you can. This person *might* try to pull the ol' switcheroo on you. I had some friends that sold a Laserdisc player, the buyer told them it didn't work, and then sent them back a completely different unit.

And one more thing, I think the worst thing about eBay is having to deal with the crazies that pop up every once in a while. A couple months ago I sold some gold, and my scale mismeasured the amount (somehow). Instead of it being 8 grams it was 7.85! (At the time .15 grams was about $3 worth) The buyer messaged me and threatened to leave me negative unless I bought a new scale. I offered her a refund and she ignored me and left negative! Argh.

[Dark_Sol]

skyrangergames

ok. i am tired from this dumb fuck. ignorant. does not care a bit if sends you shit.
But in May i won an assload of pc games, some novels and guides from him. Paid 150$ for shipping alone.
He marked as "shipped" on May 20.
Did not provide ANY tracking even though it must have gone priority for sure.If it did....
====

We don't put tracking on our packages or save customs forms.

-skyrangergames

=

And some months ago when he sent me games he gave me priority tracking.

Well. I was on vacation and forgot to proceed with the refund and claim. Deadline.
So it's 2 months have passed and no parcel and no money. fuck this.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=skyrangergames&ftab=AllFeedback

[Gapporin]

In the continuing saga of save*exchange, she sent back the package for a full refund. In it was one single Bluetooth headset. That's it. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but she can kiss my butt if she thinks she's going to get one red cent out of me.

[Jaruff]

@Gapporin - Reasons like that are why I now record myself packing every valuable item (over $20) that I sell.

I also record myself unpacking every item I receive that's under $20.

If there's any problems, videos easily go on YouTube for eBay Customer Support to view.

[ryborg]

In the continuing saga of save*exchange, she sent back the package for a full refund. In it was one single Bluetooth headset. That's it. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but she can kiss my butt if she thinks she's going to get one red cent out of me.

Yep, you're clearly being scammed now. If there's a pending dispute, I'd call (not email) Paypal immediately and tell them what happened. You're supposed to send EVERYTHING back to get a refund.


@Gapporin - Reasons like that are why I now record myself packing every valuable item (over $20) that I sell.

I also record myself unpacking every item I receive that's under $20.

If there's any problems, videos easily go on YouTube for eBay Customer Support to view.

Good lord man, how much free time do you have? I ship out ~20 items/day and I couldn't imagine spending that much time on recording/editing/uploading. I get stupid disputes like that about .5% of the time, and I'd rather deal with ten times as many than deal with video nonsense.

Not to mention that recording yourself opening a package doesn't prove anything. I could put my cat in a box, seal and mark it up so it looks legit, open it a second later with the camera on and say "OH MY GOD THEY MAILED ME A CAT, REFUND PLZ!" Has ebay/Paypal *ever* considered video evidence like this in terms of a dispute? Not to my knowledge.

[Jaruff]

Well, I don't ship out nearly that many, perhaps 1-5 per week. Like I said, I only do it with valuable items such as the refurbished PS3 systems I sell. It really doesn't take additional time; I'm going to pack the item anyway so I might as well record myself doing so. I don't bother with editing/uploading unless there's a reason, which so far I haven't had. Plus, with the refurbished consoles, it's also something to show UPS if the need for an insurance claim ever arises.

Now, I have used picture evidence through the Resolution Center before and it worked for me (as a buyer). I don't see why a video wouldn't have the same effect.

[The 1 2 P]

Add frodobaggins82 to the list. I sold him this factory sealed strategy guide (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310236585805&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT). He opened a case against me today saying the following:


Details provided by the buyer:
The buyer said the item doesn't match your description
The buyer has tried contacting you
The buyer paid on Aug 02, 2010
The buyer contacted you through eBay Messages
The buyer has not received a response
The buyer is expecting a solution from you
The buyer said the item is damaged
The buyer wanted:
A full refund

The feedback he left me said that the book bind was broken upon delivery. So lets pretend that this actually did happen. He could have contacted me, sent the item back and got a refund that way. But if you look at the case details above it says that he did try to contact me and that he never received a response back from me. Well, thats probably because he never actually tried to contact me. How do I know? Well, besides for there being no messages in my inbox from him, I actually put his tracking number in at usps.com. He received his item this morning.

I responded to the case and put my side in but ebay still issued him a full refund. I then had a very lengthy chat with one of their reps via chat to make sure they atleast look into taking some kind of action against him. Atleast they didn't take it(the refund) from my account(they decided neither of us was at fault) but he got a free guide out of it. I know the guide is only $5 but this guy is definitely a scam artist. Make sure to add him to your block list.

[megasdkirby]

Good lord man, how much free time do you have? I ship out ~20 items/day

My goodness, I wish that happens to me one day! Lot's of work, but it will be worth it in the long run!

BTW, still prepping everything for this week. :)

Kinda funny, but I think I will be adding every use listed on this topic to my BBL. :)

[ryborg]

"Details provided by the buyer:
The buyer said the item doesn't match your description
The buyer has tried contacting you
The buyer paid on Aug 02, 2010
The buyer contacted you through eBay Messages
The buyer has not received a response
The buyer is expecting a solution from you
The buyer said the item is damaged
The buyer wanted:
A full refund "

Yeah, a lot of the time, when a buyer files a dispute, they click every check box available, which leads to all of that nonsense.

He wants you to mail a strategy guide in a box? WTF?? I've mailed hundreds upon hundreds of guides and books of similar size in a simple brown envelope and I've never had a problem. I can't even imagine how it would get so mangled, the binding breaks. It's not a hardcover book from 1850.


Kinda funny, but I think I will be adding every use listed on this topic to my BBL. :)

That's the whole point of this thread. I do the same, except for the rare instances here where the buyer wasn't at fault.