Factory sealed NES madness!

[Simply Dave]

Check out this lot!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8205650325&category=62053&rd=1

[jajaja]

1 word: OMFG (acctualy thats 4 words) lol ;)
He probly found an store with a large old stock. Wish I could find that :(

Anything really valuable in this lot btw? I see Punch Out, Dragon Warrior and Metroid. These are worth some sealed.
Maybe the ones in the black series too like excitebike.

Oh.. and Wrecking Crew! Last one I saw sealed went for nearly $1000

[captain nintendo]

:-P Wow ! @_@

[jajaja]

If I had lived in Hawaii I would have bought it. Check the shipping cost, $1500. I guess this is one thing you want to pick up localy.
It wouldnt suprise me if someone use the BIN today.

[captain nintendo]

If I had lived in Hawaii I would have bought it. Check the shipping cost, $1500. I guess this is one thing you want to pick up localy.
It wouldnt suprise me if someone use the BIN today.

Too bad I never visited Hawaii while my brother was stationed there for 5 years :( *DOH*

[jonjandran]

3 feedback with nothing sold ever. :hmm:

I wouldn't be trusting this person with $15,000 of my dollars. :roll:

[cowmando6]

This is gonna go for some serious cash...

[bazariah]

13,500 dollars on buy it now, which works out around 7000 GBP damn if i had that spare i would've gone for them

works out like what ten bucks a game maybe less with the systems added??, before adding shipping costs

[jajaja]

Already sold, as I supsected :)
True, I wouldnt buy this without picking it up localy. The guy who bought it is going to make some serious cash if he sell all seperatly.

[daynum]

That's a lotta money. @_@

Yeah I know I wouldn't trust that sort of money with a first time seller without seeing the items first. Hell I wouldn't trust that sort of money with any seller.

[bazariah]

im gonna save those piccies, i mean come on i doubt we'll ever see that many seeled nes titles in one pic again

[imanerd0011]

Unbelievable!!!
He has multiple copies of almost all of those games. Is Pinball (black box) rare? It looks like he has around 15 copies of it. Same with Metal Gear and a few others.

[bazariah]

lol this is probaby where we find out it's a scanned picture taken about 12 years ago or something

maybe one of us should get in contact with the buyer, like we could ask him a few questions about what he got and what he wants to shift on and how much for and what-not

[tylerwillis]

Holy Crap.

Warehouse find? In HA? I mean... where do you find this stuff?

[norkusa]

$1,500 to ship?!?! That's fucking outrageous, even if it is being shipped from Hawaii.

[jajaja]

$1,500 to ship?!?! That's fucking outrageous, even if it is being shipped from Hawaii.

Considering the whole lot weight near half a ton I dont think the shippingprice is wrong. You can allways check up on it on USPS's website :)

[evil_genius]

I think I just busted a nut, not a big one but it moved and now my underwear is wet.

[DREW]

At 1500.00 plus 200.00 insurance I would think that
money would be better used to purchase a round trip ticket
and then arrange to have it shipped. I am sure it could be
done much cheaper if you looked around.

This way even if it was a scam you would get a trip to Hawaii
out of the deal, and if it wasent you get the games and a trip
to Hawaii for the same price.

Drew

[Nesmaster]

wow... $15 000 @_@

I agree, i wouldnt trust him with that much money. I'd go to hawaii myself :P

[DREW]

I emailed the seller asking if the sale does not go through I would be interested in them but would be picking them up in
person

Got an answer that that would be fine but they have already
received 20K+ offers

[Slate]

That is Crazy. $15,000.... But it is possible to have collected that many Sealed NES games & Systems over the years..

[Bronty-2]

This seller's a son of a bitch. I won the auction under my account that's linked to my US address (I normally ship things to canada but didn't want that to be an issue) and I needed a week to pay. Big deal right? Instead he's selling it for an undisclosed amount over 20k to someone else that's promising to wire the money with zero wait. Hope he burns in hell :angry: The shitty thing is I know I'm going to upset about this one for a long time.

[Griking]

I emailed the seller asking if the sale does not go through I would be interested in them but would be picking them up in
person

Got an answer that that would be fine but they have already
received 20K+ offers


I'm sorry, call me an asshole but if I was the seller and received $20,000+ offers after the fact I'd sell it to the higher bidder and take the negative as well. I'd trade a single neg for about $10,000 without a second thought.

[jonjandran]

I'm sorry, call me an asshole but if I was the seller and received $20,000 offers after the fact I'd sell it the the higher bidder and take the negative. For an extra few thousand dollars I can afford a neg.

Asshole. :P

But I probably would to. :embarrassed:

[Jed]

Wow, now that's fucked up.. I'd sue his ass. >_>

[DREW]

This seller's a son of a bitch. I won the auction under my account that's linked to my US address (I normally ship things to canada but didn't want that to be an issue) and I needed a week to pay. Big deal right? Instead he's selling it for an undisclosed amount over 20k to someone else that's promising to wire the money with zero wait. Hope he burns in hell :angry: The shitty thing is I know I'm going to upset about this one for a long time.

Bronty-2
I would contact the seller and make it clear that he has
a legally binding contract with you to sell the items at the
closing price and if he does not you are prepared to sue
him for the expected profit (5k+) you were expecting to
make on this transaction.

You already have proof of the value in the email he sent
you stating he is selling it now for 20k+.

[sirhansirhan]

As for actually suing the guy, that seems like a lot of work, but I agree that the guy who sold them is a total douche bag. I can see where the posters who say that they would take a negative feedback and $10,000 over the alternative are coming from, but really, the seller should have researched his items and how much they were worth before putting the auction up. Or he should have split them up into tons of different auctions. Or, here's a real far-reaching idea, he shouldn't have put the option to buy it now on the damn auction in the first place! Any of those three mindlessly easy and obvious options would have preemptively avoided these problems.

The point is, this seller is a moron. Bronty, don't you at least feel a little better now that you no longer have to trust this guy with a ton of your money? What if they are reseals? Maybe you lucked out, and don't even know it.

And yes, I am only this optimistic when I'm considering someone else's problems; never when I'm worrying about my own.

[bazariah]

This seller's a son of a bitch. I won the auction under my account that's linked to my US address (I normally ship things to canada but didn't want that to be an issue) and I needed a week to pay. Big deal right? Instead he's selling it for an undisclosed amount over 20k to someone else that's promising to wire the money with zero wait. Hope he burns in hell :angry: The shitty thing is I know I'm going to upset about this one for a long time.

damn man that sucks so much, he should sell them to you since you won them.. i would've bought a few from you too

i think that drew is right you know about making contact with the seller to make him aware it's a legally binding contract

and sirhansirhan is completley correct about how the dude should have split them or not offered a BIN

you know what i say i reckon somebody localish to him here should e-mail the seller offereing at least $30,000 cash and say they'd meet him to pick up, then when they meet him see the items and then give him such a beating for what he's done to bronty, then just take the games and send them to bronty.. or split them up and divide between DP members

[Scavenger4]

I emailed the seller asking if the sale does not go through I would be interested in them but would be picking them up in
person

Got an answer that that would be fine but they have already
received 20K+ offers


I'm sorry, call me an asshole but if I was the seller and received $20,000+ offers after the fact I'd sell it to the higher bidder and take the negative as well. I'd trade a single neg for about $10,000 without a second thought.

Aye then take $30 of that $10k and use it to get rid of that negative via whatever website does that for $30 =P.

[Bronty-2]

well I appreciate the sentiment but I just don't think suing him or anything is going to work. It would probably cost more than the value of the games to actually sue him, especially over a foreign jurisdiction. Just not worth it.

He seems like a trustworthy guy over the phone actually. Just too much of a hardass and not interested in making what I consider reasonable concessions.

According to him a buy it now is a buy it NOW, like right now, like he needs the money in 5 frickin' hours. I just couldn't cobble anything together fast enough.

And at this point what's done is done - chasing after this is just going to be lost effort, time and money.

[Bronty-2]

"you know what i say i reckon somebody localish to him here should e-mail the seller offereing at least $30,000 cash and say they'd meet him to pick up, then when they meet him see the items and then give him such a beating for what he's done to bronty, then just take the games and send them to bronty.. or split them up and divide between DP members"

hehe.. I appreciate the sentiment.

[jajaja]

Wow that sux :( Isnt there anything you can do?
This have happend to me once too. I won a Tiger Handheld for about $30 and got a mail from the next highest bidder that he wanted to buy it from me for $100. He really wanted it. The next day I got a mail again saying he didnt want it afterall. I payed the seller and waited for my stuff and after some days I got a Paypal refund from the seller. I e-mailed him and asked why. He said he lost the game on the floor and it broke lol. Then I told him I knew he sold the game to another guy, I even had his name. Then he came up with a lame excuse that he had 2 of it, so bullshit.

But I was suprised that the seller only had a price of $13500. If I had won it and found out he wouldnt sell I would be pissed as hell too.

About suing, is a winning bid on Ebay legaly binded? I mean, could you acctualy win the case if you sue someone for not selling the item(s) you won?
If so, I would seriously do that (depending on how much it costs tho). I wouldnt let him get away that easy.

Im not sure what I would do acctualy, if someone offered me like $10000 more. I think I would have take a negative for it, not sure acctualy. Its not just the negative, its also the prinsiple. I wouldnt sell it for $13500 in the first place so I wouldnt have this problem anyway hehe.

[rarecube]

If you want to know my opinion ....

Hes not selling to the highest bidder for one single reason...

He does not have them !

[Bronty-2]

What makes you say that? He seemed legit on the phone..

[jajaja]

what he say on the phone?

[rarecube]

What makes you say that? He seemed legit on the phone..

Well....

Im a collector myself and a few questions and thoughts comes to my head ...

- How did they hold for so long to soo many "multiple" sealed copies of the same game , retailers dont keep discontinue stock for such of big time , If he was a buyer-seller , why did he kept the sealed games for such of long time?? - If hes a collector why would he keep multiple copies of the same game ??

- Storage something for so many years its not that easy ...

- Low Feedback on Account even hes been a member from 2001 .

- Hawaii .

-If he kept that stock for that many years to make money, he will defenetly know that the lot its worth about 2-3 times more than what he asked for.

- From the photo ... It looks like some kind of Market , check the lady on the right , and the clothing above...

Did he had any other photos ?? Like a requested photo??

Anyone can seem legit on the phone...

Where did he got all that stock from ??

Maybe its possible when the system was running or not long after production ... But so many years later??


Honestly , Too many

Maybe he change his mind about commiting such of big fraud-

Bronty ... Honestly i wouldnt be worried, i am very sure about this one.

[Bronty-2]

Hey Paul,

Well I disagree, for a few reasons I can't really get into. But there's no doubt in mind the stuff is legit.

[nermal]

Hey Paul,

Well I disagree, for a few reasons I can't really get into. But there's no doubt in mind the stuff is legit.


For a few reasons I can not really get into?? HAHA ok LOL

[rarecube]

Hey Paul,

Well I disagree, for a few reasons I can't really get into. But there's no doubt in mind the stuff is legit.

LOL

Fair enough ....

[jajaja]

There are thousands of old warehouse and storagerooms out there. Its quite possible that this had been stored away in a box far back were no one looked until recently.

[Bronty-2]

Hey Paul,

Well I disagree, for a few reasons I can't really get into. But there's no doubt in mind the stuff is legit.


For a few reasons I can not really get into?? HAHA ok LOL

I just meant that it would take too long to explain, not that it's a top secret or anything.

[mickoz]

Well maybe cruzaway bought them!!!!!! :P "Don't worry my friend".

Seem like an amazing auction. I would have think of it. But my house is already full... and a load of it is factory sealed NES games. Not as much copies thought ;-)

There seem to be uberleet games in that stock... :$ mama... If you would have wanted to go fast, I would have splitted and get the cash right away ;-)

But I would say, be persisten... recall, at less try a little more.

I have an interesting similar story, except the ending was different (surprinsingly). A friend of mine bought a domain for a lot of cash (soimething like 7k$+) free-sex.something (com or org I don't remember). Then some time later he reselled and offered a commission to the person who find the buyer. Let's say he reselled at 12-14k$ and give some good cash to the guy who found it. Apparently people fought to get the domain (I don't know if he tried to sell it much before). Then some minutes after (10 maybe), he did get a bigger offer, it was 20K if I remember well ironically. He told me he did not take it. I was really surprised hearing that... because... that friend like to try to screw a little the system (not that bad, but he would use trick to get more cash as usual, etc.)... and some K for some minute... that is neat-o.

Having talk with Bronty, at less he doesn't seem agressive and is very agreable to talk with, but I have another story that remind me... about how I got my Donkey Kong Country Competition complete. A seller on ebay was pretty quick and rude. I have dealt with him and I did not like how he was answering email rudely, etc. He was a local. I have done quite a lot of deal with him after (because he had interesting stuff). I even did get some stuff from him for some other DP'er out there. However, he was buying some stuff thinking doing a business (I think he stopped). And one thing he got was a cheap bid on DKC Competition Complete (near 150$). Apparently the seller wanted more (which was still a great price). That is unfair as he won it (the rude and quick guy). However his attitude make so he pissed off the seller too (and had no chance to conclude at 150$). I did bought it after. I don't encourage that way to sell and then stop (but wanted it...). The seller as the bidder has a kind of Ethic and Contract, etc. However, it was lost case so I took opportunity... Ironic fact is that I bought another DKC Competition from the [quick impulsive] guy (bidder) who did not conclude the deal. ;-)

[mickoz]

Also another seller on ebay that I have saw often. atwood something. Recently sold a mario bros (51$ only, I would have bid bigger but had problem bidding on time, chance are bronty won it!) and said he found a warehouse and have ton of factory sealed nes games. Anyone heard about this?

[Bronty-2]

Yeah, you guys are right. I'm going to contact the seller again and try to see what can be done.

[jajaja]

If you see sealed copies of Pinball, Wrecking Crew, Metal Gear, Super Mario Bros 3 etc. poping up on ebay from the same seller its 99.99% sure that that seller bought this lot instead.

[TEXASGAMEPLAYER]

damn I was going to bid on that mario bros but could not because he never pre approved me to bid. What is that guys story, his name is "atwood". I have good feed back and never got a response to 4 emails! Hey Bronty do you know this guy?

P.S sorry to hear about that deal gone bad. Had it been a different time of year I could have loaned you money and made a deal for the stuff I want. But right now my girl has taken away and changed my passwords on all my accounts (something about my spending too much on ebay and other places!)

PSS Because of the above you can count me out the soccer transaction sorry BRONTY

[jajaja]

But right now my girl has taken away and changed my passwords on all my accounts (something about my spending too much on ebay and other places!)


Hehe my ex-girl did this to me when we broke up. Damn it was annoying. Got the new pass eventualy tho.

[scooby105]

Yeah, you guys are right. I'm going to contact the seller again and try to see what can be done.

did you contact eBay as well on this one? for an auction of this level price with the commission they will be raking in, they'll probably help you out a bit quicker and better than they usually do. file a seller non-performance charge against him at the least.

[Bronty-2]

This is what I sent the guy, and yeah, I definitely plan on causing what trouble I can for him on ebay if he doesn't come through.



Hi Jay,

I'm not at home so I can't call you at the moment (I will later). First off,
did the other guy pay? But really, that's irrelevant. The fact of the matter
is that I won the auction and can pay you upfront, as requested, in a short
period of time. I don't see how you can demand that I meet all of your
conditions, such as US delivery and upfront payment, and at the same time not
honor the auction. You went to lengths on the phone to remind me of the terms
of the auction and to demand that I meet them – well, in that case, it's only
fair that I demand the same of you. I won the auction fair and square and can
pay. Not only that but I notified you of that ability to meet payment and
delivery terms within just eight hours of the auction close. I don't want to
have to report this to ebay. You have to be reasonable here – you talk about
being fair to the other guy but what about being fair to me, the auction
winner?

Dan

[Bronty-2]

hey texas - no problem re the tennis, sorry to hear about the passwords! The thing is, she's probably right if you're like me LOL

[Bronty-2]

re atwood, all I have to say about him can be read in the 'caltron 535' thread.

and there's no way that mario auction was legit. That auction was basically just tim showing off.

[Buyatari]

Any idea what this set would be worth if broken up on ebay?


Adam

[rarecube]

30.000 - 35.000 USD

But i dont think it will happen.
I still believe its a fraud.

[NESaholic]

Hotdang what nice to see! WOW! I dunno if i would buy it from someone who has 3 feedbacks,if i lived in the neighbourhood i would go check it out first before bidding,mega nice lot though,the buyer must be mega happy with all this.

[Buyatari]

You know.

The high bidder needs to send an email to Mike Gedeon. He was exchanging emails with this guy for a private sale. The price he gave Mike for the whole kabang was lower than the BIN. Is the seller trying to get multiple buyers to bite on the same bait?

Adam

[mickoz]

Damn -- We live in a small world. ;-)

We could make a movie after.

There has been a movie here about some "Lost stamps" (featuring the bluenose [of Canada] if I remember). So why not one about videogames, crazydeal and lost videogames. Hehe...

[Bronty-2]

You know.

The high bidder needs to send an email to Mike Gedeon. He was exchanging emails with this guy for a private sale. The price he gave Mike for the whole kabang was lower than the BIN. Is the seller trying to get multiple buyers to bite on the same bait?

Adam

If that was the case though, he'd be willing to take my money too, which he's not interested in. Had a conversation on the phone with him today. It's a long story, but basically when he first called me like 20 mins after the auction end I was hoping to do this on time payments. He didn't want to accept that and by the end of the day when I confirmed I could get full payment in a week he didn't want to accept that either.

[rarecube]

You know.

The high bidder needs to send an email to Mike Gedeon. He was exchanging emails with this guy for a private sale. The price he gave Mike for the whole kabang was lower than the BIN. Is the seller trying to get multiple buyers to bite on the same bait?

Adam

what did i say .....

I knew it !!

[jajaja]

Hm.. hard to say. As bronty already said, if that was the case he would most likely have take his money too.

[felix]

You know.

The high bidder needs to send an email to Mike Gedeon. He was exchanging emails with this guy for a private sale. The price he gave Mike for the whole kabang was lower than the BIN. Is the seller trying to get multiple buyers to bite on the same bait?

Adam

what did i say .....

I knew it !!

I'm going to have to agree with you.. Your post earlier summed it up. WAY too many coincidents for me to feel safe buying it. I am thinking of email the seller and telling him that I would like to purchase it for say $2000 over his top buyers top price.. See what he says lol.

[rarecube]

You know.

The high bidder needs to send an email to Mike Gedeon. He was exchanging emails with this guy for a private sale. The price he gave Mike for the whole kabang was lower than the BIN. Is the seller trying to get multiple buyers to bite on the same bait?

Adam

what did i say .....

I knew it !!

I'm going to have to agree with you.. Your post earlier summed it up. WAY too many coincidents for me to feel safe buying it. I am thinking of email the seller and telling him that I would like to purchase it for say $2000 over his top buyers top price.. See what he says lol.

Thank you , Thank you ...

Way Too irregular...

[Griking]

It's a long story, but basically when he first called me like 20 mins after the auction end I was hoping to do this on time payments. He didn't want to accept that and by the end of the day when I confirmed I could get full payment in a week he didn't want to accept that either.

Aren't these things that you should negotiate with a seller about before you bid?

[felix]

What makes you say that? He seemed legit on the phone..

Well....

Im a collector myself and a few questions and thoughts comes to my head ...

#1- How did they hold for so long to soo many "multiple" sealed copies of the same game , retailers dont keep discontinue stock for such of big time , If he was a buyer-seller , why did he kept the sealed games for such of long time?? - If hes a collector why would he keep multiple copies of the same game ??

#2- Storage something for so many years its not that easy ...

#3- Low Feedback on Account even hes been a member from 2001 .

#4- Hawaii .

#5-If he kept that stock for that many years to make money, he will defenetly know that the lot its worth about 2-3 times more than what he asked for.

#6- From the photo ... It looks like some kind of Market , check the lady on the right , and the clothing above...

#7 Did he had any other photos ?? Like a requested photo??

#8 Anyone can seem legit on the phone...

#9 Where did he got all that stock from ??

#10 Maybe its possible when the system was running or not long after production ... But so many years later??


Honestly , Too many

Maybe he change his mind about commiting such of big fraud-

Bronty ... Honestly i wouldnt be worried, i am very sure about this one.

I edited your post in my quote (added numbers) to help me comment on them...


#1 Its hard enough to find some of these titles complete and in OK condition, much less in factory sealed..

#2 The odds are astronomical! Wheres the new crew who *should have* recorded this amazing find? I know he didnt get all of those games off of ebay.. (trust me, ANYTHING that happens on Hawaii makes the news.. you can fart in church and they will probably cover it on the 9pm news).

#3 3 feedback?? Obviously this guy didnt get any of the games off of ebay.. He has little history has the protection of being in Hawaii (Laws are a little different down there.. people get away from a lot of stuff there just from the fact that "local" law beats out "federal" law). Want some good references?? Watch that bounty hunter show where the guy and his family are bounty hunters in Hawaii.. Its very different and easy to get away with about anything.

#4 Exactly.. If this were anywhere else in the states and I was going to pay 10s of thousands of dollars for it, I would sure a HELL go drive to see it.. Hawaii is a little out of reach.

#5 I will give him the benifit of the doubt in saying that maybe he just wants to get rid of it all at once, but why hasn't he sold ANYTHING on ebay? I would be more than tempted to sell some of those quadrupals for some extra money..

#6 On top of what you said, wheres the pictures of the factory seals??! How do we know that he didnt just shrink wrap them?

#7 Only 5 photos.. Usually somebody who sells lots like this go absolutly haywire with their photos.. its the only selling point of your item! 5 photos total??? hmmm. No closeups and do you see ANYTHING that would suggest that these pictures wern't taken 10 years ago??? Find me 1 thing that wasn't around before 1995.. Theres even a tape player in the background ffs. One of the photos has a lady in it and the quality of the photo reminds me of my childhood pictures from the late 80s/90s..

#8 Call me on the phone, I will tell you that.. I live in Russia, Drive a Porsche, Live in a $100,000,000 dollar castle and am sleeping with the victoria's secret models. Will you belive me? You belive this guy..

#9 Exactly.. I actaully REALLY want to know about this..

#10 Whats the NEWEST game in that LOT?? what.. My GUESS is 10 years old..

WAYYYYY too many little things that don't add up. WAAAAAYYY too many red flags that say "DONT BUY FROM ME"..

[rarecube]

Felix ....

I really want to know what happens with all this ....

Its like watching a movie, we are in the middle of the plot but we dont know the end yet ....

But i bet anything were right !

Will continue.......

[felix]

I do too :D

It is very suspenseful! This is the first thread I have ever "watched"..

I hope everything turns out alright. If it does, this will be IMO the biggest find that DP has ever seen. But the odds are slim.

[Buyatari]

If that was the case though, he'd be willing to take my money too, which he's not interested in. Had a conversation on the phone with him today. It's a long story, but basically when he first called me like 20 mins after the auction end I was hoping to do this on time payments. He didn't want to accept that and by the end of the day when I confirmed I could get full payment in a week he didn't want to accept that either.

I don't know this guy and I won't make any judgements here. Thats for the involved parties to work out. However, your transaction with this guy is a more "recorded" transaction. Its on record. You bid on the games listed and pictured. If he screwed you eBay may step in. You wanted to pay with paypal and they too would step in.

Outside of eBay and Paypal who is to say what that 10k or 20k wire transfer is for? There was no auction and less of a paper trail. If he screwed over 10 guys who didn't bid on his auctions and had them send money on his terms wether wire transfer,money orders etc then what? He could send them each 1/10 of the collection and say that was the deal or even send them a box of coconuts or nothing at all. Then hes got 10X the money and still has the games. Less chance that any one of them can do anything about it. Then he would change his Ebay name and relist them (if he does have them) after the money is spent.

[rarecube]

WOW ....

All types of theories !!

Getting hotter and hotter . :evil:

[felix]

If that was the case though, he'd be willing to take my money too, which he's not interested in. Had a conversation on the phone with him today. It's a long story, but basically when he first called me like 20 mins after the auction end I was hoping to do this on time payments. He didn't want to accept that and by the end of the day when I confirmed I could get full payment in a week he didn't want to accept that either.

I don't know this guy and I won't make any judgements here. Thats for the involved parties to work out. However, your transaction with this guy is a more "recorded" transaction. Its on record. You bid on the games listed and pictured. If he screwed you eBay may step in. You wanted to pay with paypal and they too would step in.

Outside of eBay and Paypal who is to say what that 10k or 20k wire transfer is for? There was no auction and less of a paper trail. If he screwed over 10 guys who didn't bid on his auctions and had them send money on his terms wether wire transfer,money orders etc then what? He could send them each 1/10 of the collection and say that was the deal or even send them a box of coconuts or nothing at all. Then hes got 10X the money and still has the games. Less chance that any one of them can do anything about it. Then he would change his Ebay name and relist them (if he does have them) after the money is spent.

On top of all of that, even if he went through paypal, they only cover up to $2000. With $1500 shipping, hes not going to take much of a hit (esp for the final price including shipping). After Paypal refunds you $2000 (in about 6 months time), you will more than likely never hear from paypal or the buyer ever again. So lets look at it this way.. You give me $13,500.00 + $1,500 and I will GREATFULLY refund you $2000 and walk away scott-free with $13,000.

That sounds like a deal to me.
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[mickoz]

Anything is possible. A warehouse find is possible. Haven't a guy found 1000 cheetahmen (some years ago but still) at 1$ each. However true or false... ***We like to think it is real***, I guess especially bronty. ;-) Heck I would have considered it and there is not enough space to put all this in my house I bet. :D

Also, your comment about how he sell remind me of an article I read that say that we sell like we buy. Exemple, if you are cheap, you are most likely to sell cheap. Etc. Meaning, if it is true, it doesn't mean that this guy want to sell it one by one (that take time and if he has other business going on...). It doesn't mean it worth that much to them "thinking it is old stock". People sometime give a little rebate to sell the lot faster to gain space.

[video_game_addict]

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I don't see any red flags, if y'all don't believe he has them, how did he fabricate these pictures? Multiple copies of almost every title, and 5-10 copies on alot of them, all look minty fresh. Even has several original cases for games & systems. It's not uncommon for a stash like this to be found in some old warehouse. Even on Hawaii, they sold Nintendo down there right?

Just in this last year alone, there have been several HUGE collections of NIB software & hardware up on ebay, most recently the $175K computer lot, which that guy was selling piece at a time, but snaped a few pics of the garage to try & sell it all in one go.. No one bid on that, but where did it come from? He likely found them all together somewhere, had to. Before that there was a huge lot of Bally Astrocade games, like 746(??) brand new games, this a system that predates Nintendo.. And before that one, there was a huge lot of Starplex controllers & accessories found, hundreds of these, I don't think a total was given, because the seller broke down into lots selling. Again a huge collection of nib hardware from the early 80s just sitting in a store room for 20 years.

It's possible this guy has known about these Nintendo games for a number of years, but just hadn't had time to mess with them, or didn't own them so he couldn't. He may not have researched any, just threw up on ebay with a BIN of around $10 a pop. Which would seem optimistic if you didn't know the value of any of these, given their age.


Having no feedback is not that big of a deal. That just shows he's not a regular on ebay.

Not trying to sell individually is not too uncommon, when faced with the possibility of having to mail out hundreds & hundreds of packages. It probably wasn't something he wanted to get involved with. It's much easier just posting one single auction.

Not wanting to sell to Bronty after the phone conversation isn't surprising either, when Bronty informed him he did not have the funds to purchase this lot he'd just BINed and is hoping the seller can hold out for a time based payment plan. This isn't layaway. And that should have been approved before he ever bid on the auction. At this point the seller probably started receiving offers from other interested parties, all above the now ended BIN price, and the seller decided he doesn't want to wait around on multiple payment plan that Bronty offered.

To the seller it would seem that Bronty was getting in over his head with this purchase, time based payments might get stretched out longer than originally agreed upon, and even the last attempt that he could have the money in one week, might not actually work out, and then what? The seller is looking at these other offers, and doesn't want to mess around with someone who might not have the money, or get into a situation where he starts accepting money, then has to wait indefinitely when things don't work according to plan.

Not showing seals? Only proves he doesn't know much about Nintendo. Honestly on a lot that big, what does it matter? So you think he bought these piece at a time so he could reseal at home & make money on ebay? It would probably cost $5K or more to purchase that lot piece at a time in mint complete form just so he could put together a fake warehouse find with a BIN of $15K Get real, no one is gonna waste that much time or money on a scheme like that. And when's the last time anyone has seen cases of systems in original packing boxes on ebay, what would one of those fetch?

$2K paypal thing is less of a concern when I think the FBI still works internet crime, mail fraud is out if it goes UPS, but still lawsuits can be filed. People do get caught & punished. This isn't something where you're just gonna file a paypal dispute and call it a day.

I agree with the other posters when they said they'd take the extra $10K over a neg in a heartbeat. I would too, especially given the circumstances. If the buyer had money in hand, willing to pay right then, this would not even be a discussion now. But since he didn't it opened the door for all these others to come in, and now waiting on $13K vs a wire trans tomorrow evening for $20K, which would you prefer??

[Buyatari]

Ok lets say he has them and is an honest guy. Err except he doesn't honor the winning bid.

I'm still curious why he offered the lot for LESS than the BIN to Mike Gedeon.

Does that make any sense?

[mickoz]

My first columbo question would be: how he did get in contact with Mike Gedeon (I suppose he is the guy behind one of the vgc, the other being Mike Etlers, a s separating the name)? He did the first move or otherwise.

And of course my second question is: was it before or after the auction that he offered a lower price?

From the talk on this forum, he was offered more (20k$) but the talk doesn't say if he has accepted it.

[rpepper9]

I disagree with the comment that you can tell how old the photo is by the clothes hangin up or by the lady sitting in one of the photos. I can walk through any mall today and find a lady that looks almost exactly like that lady. And about 100 people wearing almost exactly here clothes or the clothes that are hanging up. Not a adiquite indication of the date of the photos.

It looks like a nice lot, and that is about all you can tell from the photos.

[Buyatari]

My first columbo question would be: how he did get in contact with Mike Gedeon (I suppose he is the guy behind one of the vgc, the other being Mike Etlers, a s separating the name)? He did the first move or otherwise.

And of course my second question is: was it before or after the auction that he offered a lower price?

You can email Mike at Mgedeon216@aol.com

[smokehouse]

Something tells me in my gut that this is a fake. If this guy is an EBAY member he would have done his homework and sold for more. Ignorance is one thing, greed is another. Also, who in their right mind would sell $13K worth of stuff and take such crap photos? I’m telling you, I have a feeling this one is going to end badly.