Worst "Major" Game System of the 1990's!

[NintendoMan]

Well see, that's just your opinion. Personally I would much rather choose to play Dreamcast than N64. And I would also choose Sega CD, Saturn, Neo-Geo, and Turbo Duo. That's just my personal choice.

I would MUCH rather play a crappy game on a console with an intuitive, easy to use (and control!) controller, as opposed to playing a quality title on the N64.

I hear yah, but it seems like your making this a "What was your least fav. Nintendo system" poll. That's just what it seems like to me.

[Anthony1]

The 4 people that voted for the Super Nintendo, if that vote was actually a serious vote, then you need to be taken out back and shot.


I mean, I know that's kinda harsh. Me saying that the 4 people that voted for the Super Nintendo, should be sleeping with the fishes, but damn, that is a bad, bad selection on your part, and I think the 4 people should all fess up and explain their brief moment of insanity.



And the Genesis, damn, true gamers know the Genesis was a dream. That's the best sign of respect you can get.

[Push Upstairs]

Personally I would much rather choose to play Dreamcast than N64. And I would also choose Sega CD, Saturn, Neo-Geo, and Turbo Duo. That's just my personal choice.

Amen to that. I'd rather play "Power Stone 2" all day than even consider an N64.

I wouldn't even use an N64 as a doorstop....thats how much i dislike that system.

[FurinkanianFrood]

The 4 people that voted for the Super Nintendo, if that vote was actually a serious vote, then you need to be taken out back and shot.


Only if they are Sony fans.



Personally I would much rather choose to play Dreamcast than N64. And I would also choose Sega CD, Saturn, Neo-Geo, and Turbo Duo. That's just my personal choice.


So would I, but you just named my all time favorite systems among the alternatives so that isn't saying much. You aren't trying to say anything bad about Saturn, DC, Duo, etc are you.

If you are than you deserve to play nothing but Superman 64 life.



Power Stone 2


Was it really that bad? It was weak and all, but.....



the Genesis was a dream


Yes...
And Sega was a dream, murdered by Sony's nightmares.



I don't even like the N64 that much and only have a handful of games for it, but I can't stand how people are bashing it like this. You can't even compare it to the crap systems on that list.


I only have a handful myself, and I don't bash it either.

But what crap systems...... None of them lacked at least a few games that made them worthwhile.

Even the PS has decent games, just nothing that makes it worthwhile IMO. And it represents a side of gaming that I hate. Sony consoles are a symbol to me of flash over substance, of unreliable hardware, etc. It doesn't mean those problems don't crop up elsewhere.

I merely choose to make an example of the most blatant examples is all.

Some people bash Nintendo, I bash Sony. I feel I have reason to.



I wouldn't even use an N64 as a doorstop....thats how much i dislike that system.


I guess I can't really complain considering I say the same thing about PS2 repeatedly.

[Push Upstairs]

Power Stone 2


Was it really that bad? It was weak and all, but.....

Weak? I do wish it had more levels, but that game rocks. Thats the one game right there that makes sure i never get rid of my Dreamcast.



I wouldn't even use an N64 as a doorstop....thats how much i dislike that system.


I guess I can't really complain considering I say the same thing about PS2 repeatedly.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind owning one (PS2) but i'm not keen on owning a system that may stop working at any moment.

I like Sony, thier products have always been rock solid...WTF happened to the PS2?

[Captain Wrong]

Man, I miss the good old days when people cared more about games than systems and their makers.


I do care more about games, why do you think I hate Sony so damn much! I see Sony as a major part of a long running spiral of gameplay into the bowels of hell.

You act as if console manufacturers have no influence on software.

Or are you just in denial?

By controlling the market for a number of years, they have steered things away from gameplay, toward flash devoid of substance.

I vote for PS as worst system that is, was, and ever shall be.

The damage it has done cannot be repaired. The real Sega is dead. Nintendo was forced into taking less time to perfect games because they were being rushed.

Look what Sony did to 2D. Look at how they make importers suffer. Look at the way the murdered a far superior system with a half-assed video playback gimmick.

!@#$ Sony. They have done so much to trash our hobby.

How can you defend them? It's insane.

They convinced uninformed people cd's sound better than vinyl, that the PS was more powerful than Saturn (it isn't), that the PS2......

And yet people rush out to buy a cheap feeling and looking $350 portable that they swear looks "sexy" whatever the hell they mean by that, as if it actually had enough games to justify it.

BTW. If you waited for them to be cheap the 32X and Jag are both great. They just lack in quantity of games, they both have some quality in their libraries.

They don't suck. They didn't hurt gaming.

I didn't pay $350 for them, no dead pixels or two hour battery, and they have better games than PSP. So bah.

So much anger. So much bitterness. So much bile.

No, I'm not defending anyone, because I really don't care. Nor am I going to debate you on these dead horse, beat into the ground accusations because I'm not a system warrior. I'm just going to say for someone who claims to care more about games, you sure are taking the existance of the PlayStation personally.

[studvicious]

I hear yah, but it seems like your making this a "What was your least fav. Nintendo system" poll. That's just what it seems like to me.

Nope, I *LOVE* Nintendo just as much as anyone but the N64 just really .... really dissapointed me - thus, that is why it got my vote.



So would I, but you just named my all time favorite systems among the alternatives so that isn't saying much. You aren't trying to say anything bad about Saturn, DC, Duo, etc are you.

No not at all. What I meant was I would much rather play just about every other system on that list over a N64 (that's why I voted for it)

I'm not trying to bash any system, or company for that matter. To me, the N64 is just one of those systems that I have a hard time playing. Not just because of the so-so games but because I have a hard time playing it. I just can't get past the controller. Maybe it's because I'm 6'4" and have large hands? I don't know. A good controller will let you experience the games without even thinking that you have a controller in your hands. Whereas with the N64 I'm constantly switching my hands between the "prongs" trying to find something usuable, but I just can't.

I must say they won me back with the Gamecube - sweet, sweet controller. I love it.

[esquire]

I would've voted CD-i..... :D

I'll second that. If the Jaguar was a "major" system, then the CD-i sure as hell was. THe CD-i is the biggest piece of crap out there. There is simply no reason to buy this thing. Most of the games are already available on other consoles (3DO, Sega CD and Jaguar CD), most of which do a better job at it. The controllers sucked, especially that non-gaming controller thing-a-ma-jig with the trackball built into it. Then on top of it we get games like Link: The Faces of Evil, Zelda's Adventure, and Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon. What a shame. I can't think of the last time I played any game on the CD-i and enjoyed myself.

If I had to describe the CD-i in one phrase, I'd use that saying they use in cop shows, "Move along please, there's nothing to see here."

[esquire]

Man, I miss the good old days when people cared more about games than systems and their makers.

Those days never existed. There's been fanboyism since the Atari 2600 and the Mattel Intellivision.

-- Z.

They both sucked. Colecovision ruled! LOL

Just kidding. When I saw that I remembered the fanboyism of olden days.

The majority of kids had the 2600
The quirky kids had Intellivisions
The rich kids had Colecovisions
The kids who were behind the times had the Fairchild Channel F
and of course the diehards still had their Odyssey 2 claiming it was better that everything else.

[Ernster]

How can anyone say the N64 disappointed them? HOW! O_O

Sure it didn't have the largest or the all round library most popular consoles have but that was because the console was under appreciated, not coz it sucked.

Was Super Mario 64 disappointing to you?
Was Zelda OOT disappointing to you?
Was Zelda MM disappointing to you?
Was Blast Corps disappointing to you?
Was Goldeneye 007 disappointing to you?
Was Wayne Gretzkys disappointing to you?
Was Tetrisphere disappointing to you?
Was Perfect Dark disappointing to you?
Was Banjo Kazooie disappointing to you?
Was Mario Kart disappointing to you?
Was Diddy Kong Racing disappointing to you?
Was F-Zero X disappointing to you?
Was Mortal Kombat 4 disappointing to you?
Was Bomberman 64 disappointing to you?
Was Top Gear Rally disappointing to you?
Was San Francisco Rush disappointing to you?
Was Turok series disappointing to you?
Was All Star Baseball disappointing to you?
Was F1 World Grand Prix disappointing to you?
Was NFL Quarterback Club disappointing to you?
Was Lylat Wars disappointing to you?
Was Pilotwings disappointing to you?
Was Wetrix disappointing to you?
Was Bust a Move disappointing to you?
Was FIFA 98 RTWC disappointing to you?

and all ther others............


After reading this post and you still think N64 is crap or even more disappointing than GC, well you neeed to run to a doctor ASAP -_-

[Push Upstairs]

The controller was disappointing.

[CRV]

I would've voted CD-i..... :D

I'll second that. If the Jaguar was a "major" system, then the CD-i sure as hell was. THe CD-i is the biggest piece of crap out there.

Is the CD-I even a game machine? Phillips never marketed it as solely a game machine. It was supposed to be a interactive multimedia player. That's what 3DO was initially, but they wised up and dropped the "multimedia" crap.

Why isn't the Jaguar a "major" system? "It had crappy games" is not a valid reason. It was a dedicated console from Atari intended to take on Sega and Nintendo. Not an add-on. Not a multimedia device.

[Anthony1]

As far as people talking about whether or not such n such is a major system, or this system is a major system and it's not included, or this isn't a major system and it shouldn't be included, or this is really a add on, etc, etc.


here is my take on this....



Basically, I picked all the major systems from the 90's that were major players in the game, or at least attempting to be major players in the game.


I didn't include the CD-I or the FM Towns Marty or the NEC PC-FX or the Amiga CD32 for a reason.


None of them were ever a "serious" competitor, and had I included any of those systems, they would be an easy "out" if you know what I mean.

They would be an easy way out, because you would be able to vote for a system that nobody really gives a damn about anyways, and then you could get away without pissing anybody off.

I deliberately wanted to avoid that.



Also, some people complain about the add ons. Well, the Sega CD had a flavor all it's own, and it basically competed on it's own as far as I was concerned. Sure you need a Genny for it to work, but I like to consider the Sega CD as it's own system, of course I'm just thinking of the CD games and not carts when I do this.


Same thing with the 32X. I'm only considering 32X carts. I'm not taking into consideration the fact that it can also play Genny carts. I'm just looking at it like it's, it's own unique system, with it's own unique flavor.



And in regards to any of these systems not being "major", I think some people have argued that the Jaguar was never a major system, or the 32X was never a major system, well, they never achieved the success that they were looking for, but that doesn't mean that they weren't a major system, and that they didn't compete for the ultimate prize in terms of market share. Ultimately they didn't stand a chance, but that doesn't mean they didn't give it the ole' college try.


All the Gaming magazines covered Atari Jaguar and Sega 32X during the beginning phases of their availability, so I consider them to have been "major" players during the 90's.


The CD-I never really received major coverage by anybody. It was more of an oddity than anything else, and I think including the CD-I, just gives people an easy "out".

I don't want anybody to have a easy out, I want them to have to really think and choose a system that maybe they don't really want to admit that they thinked sucked, because somebody on here might give them hell for it.


I like making people feel uncomfortable. You get closer to the truth when people are uncomfortable.

[esquire]

I would've voted CD-i..... :D

I'll second that. If the Jaguar was a "major" system, then the CD-i sure as hell was. THe CD-i is the biggest piece of crap out there.

Is the CD-I even a game machine? Phillips never marketed it as solely a game machine. It was supposed to be a interactive multimedia player. That's what 3DO was initially, but they wised up and dropped the "multimedia" crap.

Yes it was. There were a lot of games released for it. I think about 115 games released in the US. More than tyhe Jaguar, that's for sure. Just because it did other things (play vcd movied) or have interactive educational items, doesn't meant was not a gaming console. Sega CD and 3DO both had those interactive bullshit CDs as well. Plus don't forget that "Make My Video" bullshit. The CD-i also had gaming controllers and a light gun available for it. Lastly, Magnavox realeased a model that looked like any other type of console at that time. It was meant to be a gaming machine.

[CRV]

Yes it was. There were a lot of games released for it. I think about 115 games released in the US. More than tyhe Jaguar, that's for sure. Just because it did other things (play vcd movied) or have interactive educational items, doesn't meant was not a gaming console. Sega CD and 3DO both had those interactive bullshit CDs as well. Plus don't forget that "Make My Video" bullshit. The CD-i also had gaming controllers and a light gun available for it. Lastly, Magnavox realeased a model that looked like any other type of console at that time. It was meant to be a gaming machine.

Look at the Commodore 64. It was a personal computer, but it probably had more games than any other kind of software. There were also different peripherals. They even made a consolized version called the C64GS. Does that mean it's not actually a personal computer?

[jajaja]

Is there any official number on how many c64 games that were made?

[Mayhem]

No, but we're up to 17,000 at Gamebase64 and still adding...

[jajaja]

Shit.. hehe, thats alot :)
Why is so many games for C64 acctualy? If its possible to answer that.

[syd]

I had to vote for 32X. One of my buddies had it back in the day when it came out, he had Doom for it, enough said. The 3DO comes in a close second though, that system was pretty bad IMO and expensive!

As for the N64 discussion, I'll have to throw in my 2 cents. I only started playing N64 this year when I picked one up off my friend. Ever since I started playing Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 I've been hooked. Sure the controller isn't the greatest, but a lot of the games are pretty good, if you sift through a lot of the crap. Mostly the mario games though.

[Anthony1]

Based on the results of this poll, we can actually infer the opposite response. What is the best "major" system of the 1990's. The less votes you have for worst, makes you the best....

Well, not quite, but still, it's interesting to look at which systems got the least votes for being horrible.



1. Sega Genesis - Not one single vote. That is pretty freaking impressive if you ask me. Nuff Respect.

2. TurboDuo - Only a single vote. An amazing achievement considering that not that many people are familar with the TurboDuo and it could have been an easy choice as a scapegoat.

3. Sega Dreamcast - Only two votes for the DC. Pretty impressive. Especially considering both of these votes where early on in the voting and nobody has added any more votes to a system that died a very premature death.


4. Neo Geo/Neo Geo CD - Only two votes for Neo-Geo/CD. Kinda suprising, because both this system and the TurboDuo, could have been easy scapegoat choices. Maybe the fact that many people have never owned either, actually helped them!

5. Super Nintendo - 4 votes. The fact that anybody voted for this as the worst system, might just suggest that this poll is totally bogus, because everybody knows that pound for pound, there is no better system on God's green Earth.

6. Sega Saturn - 5 votes. This system had 2 votes very early, so it's pretty impressive to see it only get a couple more votes down the stretch. Back in the days I actually thought the Saturn sucked (da horrah), but then I found out about all the great games in Japan, and all the great games that I never played.

7. Sega CD - 11 votes. This is where it started to go downhill. 11 votes isn't exactly something to brag about. But the 6 systems above definitely got some respect as far as the 90's are concerned.

I'm thinking that the Sony Playstation should have also got major respect, but there are just too many people with Anti-Sony feelings on this board that it prevents them from being honest and realistic about the matter.


Anybody that voted for the Playstation, should definitely admit to themselves, that their extreme hatred for anything Sony clouded their judgement. They really should post the system other than the PSX, that they think sucks.

I'm a Sony hater too, but I have to begrudgingly admit that the PSone was one of the best systems of all time and has absolutely no business getting a single vote, much less 18 votes. It would be interesting to know what those 18 people would have voted for if the PSX wasn't available as an option.


Would the votes go towards the Jaguar, 32X or 3DO?


I know which system of those 3 that they should go to, but apparently my views are in the minority. God forbid.

he he

[Buyatari]

32X shouldn't even be on this list. It isn't really a system in my eyes but an add-on and its certainly not a major system. BUT If you can really call it a system and you classify it as a "major" system how could anyone in their right mind vote for anything other than this.

[nebrazca78]

Ok, we are going to take a look at the decade of the 1990's and vote on the worst "major" game system of the decade.

This is sure to start quite a bit of discussion and arguing.


Could be very interesting.


Now, let me explain what I mean by "major". Basically, what I mean is that we aren't going to consider the minor and insignificant consoles of the 1990's.




I don't know how you can call the 32X a "major" system. Not only was it an add-on, but it only had 36 games. I think every other system on the list had more games. I don't know too much about the 3DO or Jag but I've heard the 3DO actually had quite a few good games. I've never really heard anything compelling about the Jag. I can say though, I've played each of those exactly one time and they were both ridiculously horrible. I remember playing cybermorph for Jag and some FMV racing game for 3DO. Completely unacceptable. I did vote for the 32X though. I have all 36 games for the 32X and I can easily say if they didn't exist I wouldn't miss them much. Most of the good games for it came out for other consoles, like Blackthorne, World Series Baseball, Doom and Space Harrier, often in better versions. Sonic & Knuckles is mediocre and while Star Wars and Shadow Squadron are good, they would've been better on the Saturn. Even the Sega CD version of B.C. Racers is better than the 32X (except the graphics). Spider-man is really good, but not $100 - $200 good. The FMV games need not be mentioned by name as it would be a waste of time. So basically, if you take out the games that were released as better versions on other systems, the 32X had 5 worthwhile games:

Amazing Spider-man: Web Of Fire
Blackthorne
Brutal: Above The Claw
Kolibri
World Series Baseball

And that's if you like Brutal, which I don't. So my top 3 list of worthless systems is:

1. 32X
2. Jaguar
3. 3DO

Now that I think of it, maybe the Jag is worse than the 32X. Does the Jag have more than 4 really great games?

As for people voting for the SNES or Sega CD as the worst system, they must be deluded. Anyone voting for the SNES secretly loves it and anyone voting for the Sega CD hasn't played the worthwhile games. I'm also really surprised so many people voted the N64 as the worst. The poll isn't about living up to expectations, it's about the worst system. N64 had quite a few irreplicable experiences. Has anyone here ever even played Excitebike 64? It's one of the best games ever made for any system. It still amazes me today how well made and deep it is. Mario Kart 64 is THE kart game for any system, ever. Goldeneye was unmatched for it's time, even on PCs. Yeah, there was some fog, but if you've got a nice sharp TV it's not so bad. Look at the Playstation in comparison. PS1 had some of the worst graphics of all time. I still don't understand how people say it looks better than Saturn, and it's not even close to the N64. Although I do have to say the very first NFL Blitz for the Playstation is the best Blitz ever made.

Genesis - with a 6-button controller - Awesome

SNES - Awesome

Sega CD - take away all FMV games - Awesome

32X - barely even a system but a few great games - Sucks

Jag/3DO - I need to play more games - Probably sucks

Saturn - Awesome

Playstation - minus the top 5% of it's games - Sucks

N64 - if you like the controller - Awesome

DC - minus it's children's themed controller, which is the only system ever to have LESS buttons than its predecessor - Awesome


So basically get every system and you're covered.

[PS2Hawk]

How can anyone say the N64 disappointed them? HOW! O_O

Sure it didn't have the largest or the all round library most popular consoles have but that was because the console was under appreciated, not coz it sucked.

Was Super Mario 64 disappointing to you? <-- NO
Was Zelda OOT disappointing to you? <-- HELL NO
Was Zelda MM disappointing to you? <-- yes
Was Blast Corps disappointing to you? --- Up urs too
Was Goldeneye 007 disappointing to you? --- NO
Was Wayne Gretzkys disappointing to you? <-- LMAO
Was Tetrisphere disappointing to you? -- get a life
Was Perfect Dark disappointing to you? - NO
Was Banjo Kazooie disappointing to you?-- NO
Was Mario Kart disappointing to you?--YES
Was Diddy Kong Racing disappointing to you?-- you are smoking crap to mention that crap.
Was F-Zero X disappointing to you?--- amm NO
Was Mortal Kombat 4 disappointing to you? --- Just Give up
Was Bomberman 64 disappointing to you?-- BORING
Was Top Gear Rally disappointing to you?-- are you out of ur mind ?
Was San Francisco Rush disappointing to you?---NO But it was much better on Dremacast
Was Turok series disappointing to you?--- BORING
Was All Star Baseball disappointing to you? --HOLY HELL YES
Was F1 World Grand Prix disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was NFL Quarterback Club disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was Lylat Wars disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was Pilotwings disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was Wetrix disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was Bust a Move disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES
Was FIFA 98 RTWC disappointing to you? -- FUCK YES

and all ther others............


After reading this post and you still think N64 is crap or even more disappointing than GC, well you neeed to run to a doctor ASAP -_-

[sharp]

How can anyone say the N64 disappointed them? HOW! O_O

Sure it didn't have the largest or the all round library most popular consoles have but that was because the console was under appreciated, not coz it sucked.

Was Super Mario 64 disappointing to you?
Was Zelda OOT disappointing to you?
Was Zelda MM disappointing to you?
Was Blast Corps disappointing to you?
Was Goldeneye 007 disappointing to you?
Was Wayne Gretzkys disappointing to you?
Was Tetrisphere disappointing to you?
Was Perfect Dark disappointing to you?
Was Banjo Kazooie disappointing to you?
Was Mario Kart disappointing to you?
Was Diddy Kong Racing disappointing to you?
Was F-Zero X disappointing to you?
Was Mortal Kombat 4 disappointing to you?
Was Bomberman 64 disappointing to you?
Was Top Gear Rally disappointing to you?
Was San Francisco Rush disappointing to you?
Was Turok series disappointing to you?
Was All Star Baseball disappointing to you?
Was F1 World Grand Prix disappointing to you?
Was NFL Quarterback Club disappointing to you?
Was Lylat Wars disappointing to you?
Was Pilotwings disappointing to you?
Was Wetrix disappointing to you?
Was Bust a Move disappointing to you?
Was FIFA 98 RTWC disappointing to you?

and all ther others............


After reading this post and you still think N64 is crap or even more disappointing than GC, well you neeed to run to a doctor ASAP -_-

SM64 - Sucked stipid 3D and I hate feel sorry I gave it a new stry on DS
Zelda OOT and MM - The complete feeling of the orginal Zelda was gone so I sold the games both soon
Blast corps- Yes a decnt game
Goldeneye, Turok, Perfect Dark - more 3D shooters which I can't stand anyway
Tetrisphere - A average puzzlegame which didn't make it on Jag as it died too early
Sportsgames - don't like them at all, anyway
Bust-A-Move - Nothing special and released on som many other consoles with better controllers
Wetrix - decent puzzle game
Pilotwings - Nice game
Lylat Wars - Disapointing sequal, only remember it cames with a rumble pack
Race game - Mario Kart was good, didn't like DKR. SFR was also fun but prefer the DC-version. Top Gear never came to the level of the SNES-parts
Mortal Kombat 4 - How can you like that crap, maybe start playing the sidescrolling Sub-Zero one or someting.
Bomberman 64 - Nothing near the later SNES Supetr Bomberman games or Saturn Bomberman.
F-Zero X- Nice update although I prefer the SNES-version.

I doubted too vote for the N64, in the end I voted for 3DO as it has even worse memories. Still don't get why the Jaguar is on one. The quality of Tempest 2000 makes me use the system every week.

[sabre2922]

Im staying with my N64 vote not just for the fact that it was such a let down but it was a very badly designed system as well

Hell just think what Nintendo or Rare could have done with the Jaguar ;)
I mean in all respect that IS a fair comparison.
Sure the N64 was more powerful but both systems were badly designed the biggest difference being one was supported by a Powerhouse company and the other was supported by a dying once-king with very little money trying to make a comeback in an industry that had passed them by many years beforehand.

I honestly believe that if it hadnt been Nintendo backing the N64 (with Rare as a 2nd party) the system wouldnt have lasted 2 years.

[zerohero]

I picked the sega cd, How many people did you know that actually had one at the time it came out anyway ?

[zerohero]

How can anyone say the N64 disappointed them? HOW! O_O

Sure it didn't have the largest or the all round library most popular consoles have but that was because the console was under appreciated, not coz it sucked.

Was Super Mario 64 disappointing to you?
Was Zelda OOT disappointing to you?
Was Zelda MM disappointing to you?
Was Blast Corps disappointing to you?
Was Goldeneye 007 disappointing to you?
Was Wayne Gretzkys disappointing to you?
Was Tetrisphere disappointing to you?
Was Perfect Dark disappointing to you?
Was Banjo Kazooie disappointing to you?
Was Mario Kart disappointing to you?
Was Diddy Kong Racing disappointing to you?
Was F-Zero X disappointing to you?
Was Mortal Kombat 4 disappointing to you?
Was Bomberman 64 disappointing to you?
Was Top Gear Rally disappointing to you?
Was San Francisco Rush disappointing to you?
Was Turok series disappointing to you?
Was All Star Baseball disappointing to you?
Was F1 World Grand Prix disappointing to you?
Was NFL Quarterback Club disappointing to you?
Was Lylat Wars disappointing to you?
Was Pilotwings disappointing to you?
Was Wetrix disappointing to you?
Was Bust a Move disappointing to you?
Was FIFA 98 RTWC disappointing to you?

and all ther others............


After reading this post and you still think N64 is crap or even more disappointing than GC, well you neeed to run to a doctor ASAP -_-

And only 5 of those games you mentioned actually interested me enought to buy them. Zelda Oot being the major one....

[hbkprm]

anything with a high ass price

[alec006]

I have have to say the Atari Jaguar because it was the wrong time for CD games plus Nintendo and Sega Owned the Video Game Market.

[mario2butts]

For me this was an open and shut case: 32X. For several reasons (keep in mind this is all just my opinion):

1) No games that I enjoy. For every other system on the list I can think of at least ONE game that I enjoy playing. On 32X there are no games that I like, nor any that I haven't played that look remotely interesting.

2) The thing is butt ugly. I go back and forth between having it in my genesis for completeness' sake but it usually goes back on the shelf because the genesis 2/ sega CD 2 combo looks so much better on its own.

3) For some reason I can't play Midnight Resistence, one of my favorite genny games, when the 32X is plugged in.

4) Close you eyes and imagine for a second, where would sega be today if they took all the resources that were put into producing and marketing the 32X, and invested in the genesis? Or even the Saturn? Imagine all the people...

So yeah, 32X sucks. I was tempted to say 3DO but i liked Return Fire and the unit itself (I have the big bulky Panasonic FZ-1) can be easily stacked under another console and has a mysterious aura about it. Sega CD was pretty bad too but Sonic CD is one of my favorite games of all time. I didn't vote for Jaguar or Neo Geo because I dont own them and can't comment on them. Every other system on the list I love dearly and am definately proud to own.

[Daltone]

I get the feeling that had I ever had the urge to buy a 32x I may be voting for that about now. As it is, I didn't so I can't.

The Mega CD seems to be a much unloved piece of hardware but I have to say that I didn't mind it. Shining Force CD is good, and I played Road Avenger for hours when I got it. Sonic and Lethal Enforcers 2: Gun Fighters amused me, as did Night Trap.

From a purely personal perspective, my vote has to go to the N64. All sorts of cool things kept getting promised and never delivered. I wasn't really old enough to experiance the disappointment of the 32x / Mega CD nonsense when neither really lived up to their billing. The N64's expansion pack and DD fiasco, however, really annoyed me. One look at the DD when it was first shown in previews and it became obvious to most people I knew at the time that there was no way in hell it was coming out. I don't know if the expansion pack was simply never properly used or just crap, in the end I was just left wondering why I'd paid so much for something that was relatively useless.

Games which were hyped beyond belief turned out to be utter rubbish (Win Back I'm looking at you. You are not the N64's answer to MGS.) Obviously, there were some damn cool games. I'm thinking, well, Zelda and Goldeneye here mostly. By the time Perfect Dark had made it into my N64 I really just didn't care about it any more.

There seemed to be a dead zone in the middle of the N64s lifespan in terms of games that appealed to me. Whilst the PS1 hit midlife and started getting some really good games, I had to wait untill the N64 was nearly dead before I got Zelda MM and Perfect Dark.

It didn't help that all the software was always damn expensive. £50 - £60 seemed just extreme to me at the time, and does still now. The prices didn't really seem to drop much either which was a major disadvantage for me. It stopped me picking up games sort of randomly, which I do now. In the end I found myself waiting on AAA titles rather than building up a library because inevitably when I bought something like Mace: The Dark Age (how did that get an 80% rating in some magazines?!) or the N64 Doom or South Park or Snowboard Kids or Turok II it just felt like flushing money away. I'm not suggesting those games were unplayable, just absolutely not worth £50.

What was worse was that these average games were usually treated like major releases. So while something like South Park was laughed off on the PS1 it was getting 90% ratings in various N64 mags at the time.

Ok, so that was probably just far too long. But yeah, the N64 gets the "worst console" from me as it was the biggest let down.

[Cyan]

Personally speaking, I enjoyed the Jaguar a lot simply because I spent many hours playing Tempest 2000. Of course, that all went to pot once TempestX3 was released for the PSX. But, by the time of that release, the Jaguar was long gone.

I also enjoyed the 3DO for its interesting and unique RPG and Strategy games. Sadly, I never owned one until now (I'm halfway to a complete 3DO game collection! woohoo!) Even the SegaCD had things like Master of Monsters and Dungeon Master.

But what about the CD-I? Why isn't that on the list? Nobody I knew ever owned that. At least the 32X had Doom. I remember that all the rich, spoiled kids in high school owned a 32X :P All I remember of the CD-I were the cheesy infomercials on at 2 in the morning.

I remember playing a prototype cartridge of Mario 64 at Vancouver's PNE (a huge, annual fair) many months before the cart was released. I wonder what the rarity on that item is, now. The cartridge was about double the height of a regular N64 cart -- that much I remember. At any rate, I enjoyed Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64, so the N64 is definitely still a winner in my book (although to date, I have yet to collect a single N64 cart.)

My vote? CD-I, even though it's not on the list, and probably not a contender for 'major' either.

- RS.

[Iron Draggon]

I had to go with the Atari Jaguar, because I feel that it was the system that failed to live up to its promise the most.

All of the systems listed had more than one great game, but if you compare their entire libraries to each other, the Jaguar stands out as the one that looks more lame than any of the others do. Just look at all those crappy flat-shaded polygon games! OMG, this thing really stands out!

The 3DO was the first runner up, with all its crappy FMV games, but it still had a decent collection of other games that looked way better than most Jaguar games did.

The Sega CD was the next runner up, with all its crappy FMV games and all its re-releases of old Genesis games.

The 32X was next in line with all its re-releases of the same old Genesis games that had already been re-released on Sega CD, and slightly improved old Sega CD FMV games.

And what about the Jaguar CD? Its games were so few and so crappy, it didn't even qualify to be a choice in this poll!

[sharp]

Personally speaking, I enjoyed the Jaguar a lot simply because I spent many hours playing Tempest 2000. Of course, that all went to pot once TempestX3 was released for the PSX. But, by the time of that release, the Jaguar was long gone.


Tempest X3 was not as good as the Jaguar orginal in my opinion. I prefer 2000 over X3 without any doubt (I own both). Only version which was bettter is the Nuon Tempest 3000, but I never got a Nuon player, although I still think about getting one just for Tempest 3000.

[Anthony1]

I didn't include systems like the Philips CD-I for a very specific reason. A system like that, is just too easy an "out" so to speak. Basically, everybody could choose that system as the worst of the 90's.


I wanted the selection of one of those systems as the worst, because I know that each of those systems listed have people that are really into them, and I wanted to see arguments get really heated over which system sucked the most.


I wanted it to be "major" systems, because systems like the NEC PC-FX are just too easy of "Marks" if you know what I mean.




Now, as for this poll in general, I'm still amazed at the ultimate results of the poll. The Sega 32X should be winning this poll in a massive landslide, and the fact that isn't happening disturbs me greatly.



The 32X was a total turd, I just can't see how anybody that has truly sampled the games of the Jag and the 3DO and the 32X, can clearly choose the 32X as better than BOTH the Jag and 3DO.


The 3DO shouldn't even actually be in the discussion. The only reason it got that many votes, is because alot of people never had it, and there were lots of crappy games for it. But just because a system has crappy games, that really doesn't mean anything, it's how many good games does it have, and without question the 3DO has twice as many good games as either the Jaguar or 32X, so it really shouldn't even be included in the discussion, but because so few people ever got one, it makes it a real easy and convienent vote.



The real debate should be Jag vs. 32X. Still, I find it hard to believe that there are people that really would rather have the 32X and it's collection of games over the Jaguar and it's collection of games. The 32X didn't really have anything of any redeeming quality. The Jag was pretty crappy too, but it did have a few redeeming games.




Another thing that people should talk about it, is which systems got the LEAST votes. That basically tells you which system people really think was the best of the 90's, in a subliminal, indirect way.

[Melf]

I'm not in the least surprised that the Genesis has gone five pages without a single vote. Respect its authorita!

I'm not going to necessarily defend the 32X, but it was definitely better IMO than the Jag and 3DO. Just about all the Jag's best games can be played better elsewhere (Doom, AvP, Tempest, Rayman), and the control was simply miserable. The 3DO's only saving grace to me was its stellar version of Samurai Showdown and the godly soundtrack that Super Street Fighter II Turbo had. The latter loses points, however, since there was no sound test. :angry:

Sure, the 32X sucked, but there are a few cool games for it, like Knuckles Chaotix, Shadow Squadron, Kolibri, Star Wars Arcade, and Virtua Racing. At least all those games haven't bene ported, making the very inexpensive 32X easy to collect for.

[syd]

I had to vote for the 32x, because I'll always remember that system as being the worst one I've ever played. My friend had it when it first came out, and I always hated going over there to play his 32x when I had a perfectly good SNES at my house! :D

Keep in mind however that I have never played the Jaguar nor the 3do, so playing them might change my mind based on some of the opinions here. :/

I have no idea why anyone would vote for the SNES or DC over some of the systems here, but hey, that's why everyone has their own opinion!

[GrayFox]

I picked the sega cd, How many people did you know that actually had one at the time it came out anyway ?
I did, and well, I loved it. Sonic CD > Everything. Seriously. That's the game I bought when I got the system that Christmas. Fantastic times. I'm still happy to this day that I bought the Sega CD when it first came out.

Anyways, I can't vote for 32x, mainly because I enjoy the hell out of Knuckles Choatix. I enjoyed it when I first had it back then, and I still do today. So, my vote would go for the Jag, just because there's no reason to get the system, other than AvP in my opinion.

[Anthony1]

I'm not in the least surprised that the Genesis has gone five pages without a single vote. Respect its authorita!

I'm not going to necessarily defend the 32X, but it was definitely better IMO than the Jag and 3DO. Just about all the Jag's best games can be played better elsewhere (Doom, AvP, Tempest, Rayman), and the control was simply miserable. The 3DO's only saving grace to me was its stellar version of Samurai Showdown and the godly soundtrack that Super Street Fighter II Turbo had. The latter loses points, however, since there was no sound test. :angry:

Sure, the 32X sucked, but there are a few cool games for it, like Knuckles Chaotix, Shadow Squadron, Kolibri, Star Wars Arcade, and Virtua Racing. At least all those games haven't bene ported, making the very inexpensive 32X easy to collect for.






Man, it is just sooooo wrong for people to even ponder the thought that the 32X could be superior to the 3DO.


Let me give you a brief lesson in the best the 3DO has to offer:



1. Road Rash - Sure, this game later was ported to the Saturn and PS1, but the 3DO version was available at least a full year before those other versions, and when the 3DO version first came out, it was totally amazing. Nothing at that time even came close. It was better than games that were in the arcade at that time.

2. Out of this World - Ok, this game has appeared on a few systems, but the 3DO version is definitely "THE" version to play. The backgrounds are gorgeous, and the soundtrack puts you right in the experience. A very beautiful game indeed. This is the definitive version of Out of this World.

3. Return Fire - Talk about pure fun factor. Again, this game was later ported to the PS1, but it originally was a 3DO exclusive for a period of time, and for those that experienced this game when it first hit, we know that it was pure genius.

4. Wolfenstein 3D - This game has appeared on numerous systems, but the 3DO version puts all others to shame. The soundtrack in the 3DO version is amazing. If you haven't tried the 3DO version of Wolfenstein, then you haven't played the best version of that game.

5. GEX - Gex was of course ported to the Saturn and PS1, but again, this game was originally a 3DO exclusive, and for the people that played GEX when it first hit, it was a breakthrough game. You can play it on Saturn or PS1, but this game is a 3DO game through and through.

6. Fifa International Soccer - Ok, here is a game that was actually done on both the 3DO and the 32X. The 32X version was a Europe only version, but I've played it, and I can tell you first hand that the 3DO version of Fifa makes the 32X version of Fifa look like it was done on the Atari 2600. The soundtrack alone makes this version the clear cut winner.

7. Shockwave - Shockwave might seem kinda cheesy now, but when it first came out, it was a real achievement in video game design. This game was essentially a shooter, but it seemed like you were playing an interactive movie. The scope of the game was pretty impressive for it's day.

8. Slayer - Slayer was the first console RPG that was totally 3D, with the architecture and everything done in a total 3D environment. Today it looks very dated, but at the time, Slayer ruled. In fact, Oblivion for the XBOX 360 reminds me alot of Slayer in the fact that Slayer was basically like Oblivion for the 3DO. It was groundbreaking.

9. Total Eclipse - You can say whatever you want to say about Total Eclipse, but before you bag on this game, you must understand that people could actually play this game in 1993!!!! 19 freaking 93. This game was incredibly advanced for 1993. Way beyond anything we had previously seen. Like Road Rash, this was a game that actually had better graphics than what was currently in arcades at the time. That is quite an achievement.

10. Need for Speed - I think this was the very first console version of Need for Speed. It was later ported to the Saturn and PS1, but you have to appreciate this game from the standpoint that originally it was a 3DO exclusive, and at the time of it's release was far beyond anything we had ever seen at the time.


11. Escape from Monster Manor - A very simple FPS, ala Wolfenstein, but still very cool and enjoyable when it first hit the scene.

12. Captain Quazar - This is one of the few action/platform type games on the 3DO. It featured a isometric perspective.

13. John Madden Football - The 3DO version of Madden football was definitely amazing when it first hit the scene in early 1994. It made the 16 bit Maddens look like colecovision games.

14. Night Trap - Most people hate Night Trap and hate all FMV games, but the 3DO had the best version of Night Trap, the sound and video quality of the game was much improved on the 3DO. The window in which the game is played is much larger on the 3DO.

15. The Horde - This was a really cool game when it first hit. Later ported to the PS1 and Saturn, but again, this is a 3DO game at heart.

16. Blade Force
17. Icebreaker
18. Killing Time
19. Foes of Ali
20. Slam N Jam '95
21. Starfighter
22. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
23. Starblade
24. PO'ed
25. Demolition Man
26. Alone in the Dark
27. Flashback: Quest for Identity
28. Samurai Showdown
29. Starblade
30. Twisted: The Game Show




Ok, that's 30 3DO games. 30 games that are definitely games worth playing, worth checking out, and worth spending some time with.


the 32X doesn't even have 5 games that are worth playing, worth checking out, or worth spending some time with. I could list a bunch more too, I left alot of really good games off that list of 30 games. But there is no question in my mind that anybody that has spent some extensive time with the 3DO, Jaguar and 32X would know that the 3DO shouldn't not be involved in this discussion.



Did the 3DO have alot of horrible games? YES


But did it have alot of good games too? YES


Way more good games than the 32X? ABSO FREAKING LUTELY

[pacmanhat]

Don't forget Way of the Warrior! ;)

Actually, DO forget WotW...and the 3DO also had the only (to my knowledge) console version of The Incredible Machine - and it kicks all kinds of ass.

[Tron 2.0]

32x uhh what was the... point of having a add on that ,Sega never realy suported?

[Anthony1]

32x uhh what was the... point of having a add on that ,Sega never realy suported?


Well if anybody knew before hand that they would support it like that, then nobody would have bought it.



At the time, Sega was hyping the machine as a Saturn Jr. Supposedly it had some of the same chips that the Saturn had, and they were saying that it could almost do some of the same things the Saturn could.

I was a sucker and I bought one that November of 1994. What a freaking mistake that was. It didn't take me too long to discover that the 32X was a joke. Still, to this day, I wonder what they hell they were thinking. The fact that they actually went through the entire process of releasing that system, and marketing it, and making crappy games for it.


People feel that Sega internally knew it was just a "stop gap" product, but if that was really the case, wouldn't they know that all the owners of said "stop gap" product would become very upset with Sega and maybe wouldn't buy their next system.

Which is basically what happened.

[Bromhidrosis]

Dont worry Im not here to argue, just answered the topics question as honestly as I could.

To answere your question, yes of course the PS1 controller was released before N64, I was reffering to the rumble and analog stick that Sony added to the PS1 controller when N64 was released.

You mean sort of how Nintendo copied the analog stick from the Vectrex?


I would say 32x with the Jag running a distant second. Only the 32x was totally berieft of excellent titles. "Good" was as high as those puppies went and there weren't a lot of those.

Uh, the first ever arcade perfect port of Space Harrier (sans the analog controls, which is actually a plus)? Afterburner? Star Wars Arcade? Metal Head? Okay, scratch that last one, but I think you get the point.


A few quick reason for my N64 vote: first if it wasnt for Nintendo and RARE this would have been one of the most hated systems ever released IMO.

Nope. People would've noticed the obscure titles that got panned because they weren't developed by Nintendo.


While the N64 may not have been near as great as Nintendo first two consoles, it does have some of the greatest (and most innovative) games of all time on it.

Beyond NHL 99 (best sports game ever,) Starfox 64, Mario Kart 64, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron and Shadowgate 64, there is nothing worth owning.


Super Mario 64,

Mediocre, but in all fairness, I've yet to play a better 3D platformer.


LOZ:OOT,

Zelda is best done in 2D.


Super Mario Kart 64,

Best in the series so far.


Goldeneye.

Never played it, but I imagine it aged worse than Doom. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Even if it's as ugly as sin, it might still be fun to play. I'll probably pick this one up if I can find another N64 to play the games I listed above on.


All 4 of those games are far better than anything that 32X,

I deleted the 3D0 bit since I don't have one.

Quite frankly, Space Harrier is better than all of the three games you listed to defend the N64 that I've played. It's actually the best shooter of its type, ever. Even HyperZone and Starfox 64 can't touch it.


Sega Saturn,

Warcraft II.


Sega Dreamcast have to offer.

I deleted the Neo Geo bit since I don't have one. Anyways, Mr. Driller and Looney Tunes: Space Race are unimaginably awesome.


So basically, if you take out the games that were released as better versions on other systems, the 32X had 5 worthwhile games: </snip>

Where's this supposedly superior version of Space Harrier circa 1994? No, seriously. I love the game so much that I honestly want to know. It certainly wasn't the arcade version. The Saturn Sega Ages version didn't come out until the 32X was already dead, so that doesn't really count, nor does the version in Shenmue.

What did I choose? 3D0, because I apparently can't count to two. I meant to choose the Genesis. It gets the least playtime from me, and when I do play it, it's SSF2, CVBL, Michael Jackson's Moonwalker or Beyond Oasis. I don't touch the Sonics anymore, I don't play Rocket Knight Adventures, and I want to destroy my copy of SF2:SCE. I could go on for a while since I've got about 25 Genesis games, but since I'm tired and I've got some tidy-up work to do around the homestead, that'll just have to wait for another day.

[club210]

The atari jaguar does it for me. I was hoping for a system to rekindle the atari name and have it storm the scene for video games. However it was not to be. It flickered out pretty quick. It rises above the other clunkers.

[smokehouse]

Although I voted for the N64, if it came down to the 32x and the Jaguar, I’d still choose the Jag. I guess for me it was all about expectation and how the system finally delivered. I EXPECTED the N64 to be an amazing system and I personally thought it was a flop (again, my opinion fellas), in fact it was the biggest flop so it got my vote. I also expected big things from the Jaguar. Unlike the 3DO which I knew would be a smaller market product and the 32x which I knew would be a failure, the Jag was aimed at the larger audience. With its affordable prices, cheaper games and upcoming CD system, I really thought it would do well.

It didn’t.

I owned a Jag (up until a week ago) and can say the only games I ever liked for the system were Tempest 2000 and NBA Jam. A-vs-P? I’ve played better FPS titles on a 386 computer. That game is quite possibly one of the worst looking titles I’ve ever played, it’s clumsy and I can say I was never impressed with it. Another problem is that the controller is a piece of junk and as big as a dinner plate. No, mine never broke; it was just a clunky chunk of plastic that felt more like a bludgeoning tool than a game controller.

I’ve owned all of the systems mentioned save the 32x and the Saturn and can say although I was most disappointed by the N64 (like I said a month ago, the only N64 game I have is Paper Mario), the Jag is a very close second.

[Melf]

People feel that Sega internally knew it was just a "stop gap" product, but if that was really the case, wouldn't they know that all the owners of said "stop gap" product would become very upset with Sega and maybe wouldn't buy their next system.

Which is basically what happened.

The 32X was not a stop-gap product, and was fully intended to be a viable, inexpensive alternative to the Saturn. The internal bickering between SOA and SOJ is mainly what did it in.

As for the 3DO, you basically proved my point about how almost every decent game for the system has been ported elsewhere, and often better. And to say that the 32X doesn't have a single game worth owning leads me to believe that you may not have owned yours too long.

- Shadow Squadron
- Spider-Man: Web of Fire
- Tempo
- Star Wars Arcade
- Kolibri
- Zaxxon Motherbase 2000
- Virtua Racing
- Space Harrier
- Afterburner
- Blackthorne

All but the last few of those are exclusives and worth getting. In fact, Spider-Man is the only title that will cost you any significant amount of coin, and that makes the add-on very easy to own and collect for. Also, do keep in mind that you're comparing a full-blown console- made by one of the biggest electronics manufacturers in the world- to an add-on for a system in its twilight years.

Look, I'm not saying the 3DO sucks or anything. I'm merely pointing out that the 32X is worth owning if you're a Genny fan or want another inexpensive console(?) to own.

Hmm, looking at it again, it seems that the amount of the 3DO's library that was ported may be a blessing in disguise. That would make it more like the 32X in that there are fewer exclusives, thereby making it easier and cheaper to own.

[XianXi]

Jaguar all the way, no doubt about it. The only game I liked was alien vs. predator. I actually laughed when a CD add-on was released.

Exactly. The Jaguar's graphics weren't even close to what they were supposed to be, it looked like an 8 bit system.

Remember the infomercials? Be a part of Gaming history......Hahaha

[Jumpman Jr.]

I think the Saturn, Sega CD and 3D0 all sucked. This goes with my hatred of games on discs though, so I guess I'm a little biased.
I didn't vote though, cause they all sucked equally.

[Anthony1]

I think the Saturn, Sega CD and 3D0 all sucked. This goes with my hatred of games on discs though, so I guess I'm a little biased.
I didn't vote though, cause they all sucked equally.



Saturn and sucked should never be in the same sentence, unless the sentence was.....





The Sega Saturn is one system that sure as hell doesn't suck.

[smokehouse]

You know, I just don’t get the Saturn thing. What really great titles were released in the US? I know this system saw some real action in Japan but it seemed like a miserable failure over here. I don’t own one and every time I’ve given some thought to getting one, I can’t even name 10 games I that I would want.

These are the words of a fanboy either. I like all game systems and try not to discriminate against any one, just look at my other posts, I’m just as brutal with the N64.

[segarocks30]

I know its not on the list but the R-Zone gets my vote. Why would you want to put on this gay little headband on your head,stare into the screen and think you look cool playing it. Now name one decent game for the R-Zone...

[PS2Hawk]

yea its funny how he has Gaystation next to playstaion and doesn't writes anything like that on other consoles...

Gaystation lol... not as good as gaycube though

[sabre2922]

I think the Saturn, Sega CD and 3D0 all sucked. This goes with my hatred of games on discs though, so I guess I'm a little biased.
I didn't vote though, cause they all sucked equally.



Saturn and sucked should never be in the same sentence, unless the sentence was.....


AGREED the Saturn was a 2-D gamers wet dream and a competent 3-D system with the right developers >SONIC TEAM<

Also to jumpman jr. no disrespect man but youve got to get over this whole "hatred of dics games" thing and stop depriving yourself of all the great games that are out there becuase you hate Sony and Microsoft so much.
I know that you try not to be a fanboy but its clear that you are a Nintendo fanboy through and through and cartridge systems have been obsolete since before the release of the N64.

Nintendo tried to make the argument about the whole cartridge vs. CD thing back when the N64 was announced and everyone knew both gamers and especially developers that CD based systems were the way to go cartridges were just to restricting and that was over 10 freaking years ago to try to talk shit on a good system like the Saturn because it was CD based is lame and face it the N64 was not a great system and only a good system ( and im being nice in stating that) because of Nintendo and rare bottom line.




The Sega Saturn is one system that sure as hell doesn't suck.

[nebrazca78]

So basically, if you take out the games that were released as better versions on other systems, the 32X had 5 worthwhile games: </snip>

Where's this supposedly superior version of Space Harrier circa 1994? No, seriously. I love the game so much that I honestly want to know. It certainly wasn't the arcade version. The Saturn Sega Ages version didn't come out until the 32X was already dead, so that doesn't really count, nor does the version in Shenmue.


The first version I played that was better than the 32X version was the Japanese Sega Ages release. Me, my brother and our friends were eating mushrooms on the 4th of July 2005 and we broke out Space Harrier. This game is absolutely nuts when you're tripping. When you get to level 3 and you've never seen it before, and your trippin' balls, it's pretty crazy. The fugged up part is that the cops showed up while we were playing because someone robbed the convenience store where I worked at the time. The only thing crazier than playing Space Harrier while tripping is sitting in the MFing police station answering questions. I was so scared I was going to get arrested because we had set off a quarter-stick a bit earlier and had totally freaked out the Mexicans across the street. The cops did a DNA test on me because they guy who robbed the place had cut himself and I was exonerated. That was an effed up night. So anyway the Jap version of Space Harrier should count and I don't know why the U.S. Sega Ages version shouldn't count either. The 32X port is good if you don't have a Saturn, but who has a 32X but no Saturn? And where are their priorities?

[Push Upstairs]

The 32x version of "Space Harrier" allows me to play the game with any of my already purchased Genesis arcade sticks where if i buy the AGES version i'll have to go buy yet another controller.

But thats just my opinion.

[nebrazca78]

The 32x version of "Space Harrier" allows me to play the game with any of my already purchased Genesis arcade sticks where if i buy the AGES version i'll have to go buy yet another controller.

But thats just my opinion.

Be that as it may, if there was no 32X, that would've given 32X adopters an extra $150 (at least) to spend on controllers and games in 1995. Undoubtedly the few games for 32X that were not released on other systems in better versions (Blackthorne, Spider-man, Kolibri, World Series Baseball) would have been released for the Saturn had the 32X not existed (probably in even better versions). Please don't mention WSB for the Saturn, it's an Ok game but can't touch the Genesis/32X versions.

[Ulticron]

I can't honestly vote on one particular console that sucked in the 90's, but I can say these three are on my hit list for the "you suck" pile, and yet I still own them.

The top winner/loser would be the Playstation. Let's start off with the fact that it helped introduce souless corporate gaming to the industry. It was also technically inferior to the Saturn, and you can see that when you compair games side by side like Mega Man 8 and Mega Man X4. When i think of fun and the PS the only thing special that comes to my mind is Spyro. Yes it has some nice RPG's but I have nice RPG's on other consoles as well. I'm also still a bit cheesed that I've taken excellent care of my PS and yet the laser is out of alignment.

The number 2 spot is a tough one to fill, but I'm going to give it to the Dreamcast. The Saturn was a huge rush of excitement for me, and I was expecting the same from the Dreamcast. Let's start off by asking Sega, Where is Nights 2? I've already given up hope on ever seeing that game, but back in the DC days I really believed it would happen. The DC's games in general never excited me. Sonic Adventure was bad, but Sonic Adventure 2 was even worse.

Number 3 goes to the N64. It's another case of coming down from a rush. the SNES was another awesome system and it got followed up by something that I felt was lackluster. No special game comes to mind when I think of the N64.

[Push Upstairs]

Let's start off with the fact that it helped introduce souless corporate gaming to the industry.

:hmm:

Right....i forget nobody wanted to make game systems to make money before Sony showed up.

[Melf]

...or that Nintendo spent the 80s and 90s being oh-so-friendly to their 3rd party licensees with those extra generous contract stipulations and fees!

[sabre2922]

The winner of this poll:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/weblogs/upload/50/195250079843492ac8a002f.jpg
78 votes X_x

personally I would rather play Tempest2000 and Alien vs. Predator anyday than 90% of the games on the N64 (I never want to be exposed to that horrid controller again O_O ) or 32X but hey thats just me.

[dreamcaster]

The 32X gets my vote, though the Jaguar comes close. Both have barely any worthwhile games and both are significantly underpowered.

But at least the Jaguar had the balls to be a fully fledged console. The 32X is an overcomplicated, unreliable piece of crap.