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PS2Hawk
08-16-2005, 10:23 PM
I mean I never play shooters, but I got an xbox because I can't keep myself up to date by paying every 3 months for a pc upgrade, but I don't feel like paying for a new console already. All the launch titles are Racing and shooters.
Any suggestions........?

goatdan
08-16-2005, 10:35 PM
Any suggestions........?

If you're not interested, don't get it?

I'm interested, but won't be getting it at launch.

PS2Hawk
08-16-2005, 10:36 PM
no no you got me wrong, I am intrested but I think its way to fast to bring out another xbox. I was wondering wat people think. I have all 3 and next gen it will be the same....

DTJAAAAMJSLM
08-16-2005, 10:42 PM
Agreed, I think the current generation of systems could've gone another year, but I still reserved my 360. I'm planning on getting Dead Or Alive 4 and Project Gotham Racing 3 at launch. Though it's not a launch title, Rumble Roses XX should also be interesting.

PDorr3
08-16-2005, 10:46 PM
I am getting it just so I can play elder scrolls oblivion, because morrowind on xbox was so awsome, and was also my first game on xbox.

Retsudo
08-16-2005, 10:52 PM
Nope, not me. i never buy any game system at launch. I wait till the bugs are worked out.

classicb
08-16-2005, 10:53 PM
At first I wanted one but now i keep reading about all these variations of xbox 360's that are going to come out and I feel like I just want to wait and see. I hate buying something only to see a better version of it come out 6 months later. I want to get one for sure probably not at launch though.

Jumpman Jr.
08-16-2005, 11:04 PM
I may get it, but it depends on how much money I have at the time. Something tells me that I'll splurge on a NES grail right before the release of the 360 and won't be able to afford it.

GobopopRevisited
08-16-2005, 11:15 PM
It depends if all these rumors flying around about "HD-DVD" in future models are true...

Even so, the launch lineup is amazing. I might.

njiska
08-16-2005, 11:24 PM
See me, i am interested an i am getting it at launch. But not for the shooters. While PDZ is high on my list i want a 360 more for DOA4 (i already know you hate the PS2Hawk LOL) PGR 3, because it looks amazing, Full Auto, because it looks fun, and there are several other's but i can think of them off the top of my head.

The 360 has a good launch, christmas and Early 2006 line up. If you buy it you will enjoy it.

punkoffgirl
08-16-2005, 11:45 PM
It looks like there may be more than one version of the 360, too.


Recent comments from MS Corporate VP and Chief XNA Architect J Allard make it look more and more likely that MS will create multiple versions of its Xbox 360, something that analysts have been strongly suggesting over the last few weeks. Allard even goes as far as to say that developers making games for the 360 should not always count on the HDD being there. More within...
http://www.uptilt.com/c.html?rtr=on&s=31m,elsu,spu,3q7u,jk5p,hin2,4y6k

PS2Hawk
08-16-2005, 11:48 PM
I am not impressed with the launch. The game that will impress me are:

Ninja Gaiden 2
Resident Evil 5
Halo 3, I suppose if they do something evolutionary...

btw I heard that Full Auto is delayed.... is that true ?

PS2Hawk
08-16-2005, 11:53 PM
I also wanted to add that the whole MS's idea of multiple verisons of the consoles and later consoles coming with HD-DVD are truely pissing me off.

1. I can garantee you that in Blueray vs HD-DVD war, HD-DVD has a pretty slim chance of winning
2. A definitlon of a console is its components never change through its cycle, MS is going to break this and put a pc out. Imageing games on HD-DVD and then games on multiiple dvds. You need to think 7 years ahead of the console's release date, and I think MS is not thinking, they think that putting out xbox 360 first will sell more than PS3.

Anthony1
08-16-2005, 11:56 PM
For some reason whenever I hear the term "shooters", I'm always thinking 2D.


So it kinda threw me off to see people saying "shooters" in reference to the FPS that are coming out.




As for whether I'm getting a 360 on launch day, absofreakinglutely.



No question. I'm going to jump that High Def bandwagon the second it starts. I've already talked about how I've seen the e3 DVD set, and I know that there are some freaking amazing games coming to the 360 at launch.

This system is kinda coming out of nowhere, and it's kinda a shocker, but I really don't think the general public is going to be ready for it. I really hope Gates got a decent marketing firm this time, and I also hope he's prepared to spend about 50 mil maketing the launch.


The average consumer out there still isn't even aware of the systems existence yet, so they have their work cut out for them.


But man, talk about the freaking games. There are some really unbelievable games coming. Project Gotham 3 could possibly be somewhat earth shattering!

What about Ridge Racer 6?


What about Need for Speed: Most Wanted.


What about Full Auto?


I mean does this system have some kick ass racing games coming or what?


Really, they actually have too many. I know for sure I'm going to check out Most Wanted, because I've seen alot of video on it, and I know it's going to be a graphical tour de force. So I'm definitely looking forward to it. And Gotham has the potential to be a dream of dreams. I haven't seen anything yet regarding Ridge Racer 6, but you know it's going to bring the noise. Supposedly Sega is also working on a Outrun for the 360.

Full Auto is probably the least interesting racer to me. I'm sure I'll rent it and play it quite a bit to check it out, but ultimately, I'm not really hyped on it.



I think Kameo and Dead or Alive 4 are must purchases. You are talking about the most advanced fighting game in existence, and the most advanced adventure/platforming game.


Also, I think it's mandatory to either get Madden, NBA Live or NBA2K6. You have to have a launch sports game, because it's one game you can play over and over and over. Of course if you hate sports then you might want to skip.

Austin
08-17-2005, 12:16 AM
I'll be overseas when the system actually launches, but I really, really want to pick one up when I get back. It all really depends on how broke I'll be after travelling Europe. But, once I get some cash to spare, I'll be all over it.

Anthony1
08-17-2005, 12:48 AM
I'll be overseas when the system actually launches, but I really, really want to pick one up when I get back. It all really depends on how broke I'll be after travelling Europe. But, once I get some cash to spare, I'll be all over it.


Unfortunately, It will likely be sold out at some point, and people will have to wait some time before the next shipment.


The choice to launch in 3 major markets in the same year, means that there will be a shortage at some point, and there could be a month long window, when you simply can't find one at a store.

PS2Hawk
08-17-2005, 01:43 AM
I'll be overseas when the system actually launches, but I really, really want to pick one up when I get back. It all really depends on how broke I'll be after travelling Europe. But, once I get some cash to spare, I'll be all over it.


Unfortunately, It will likely be sold out at some point, and people will have to wait some time before the next shipment.


The choice to launch in 3 major markets in the same year, means that there will be a shortage at some point, and there could be a month long window, when you simply can't find one at a store.

LOL xbox 360 will never be sold out, my xbox guru freinds are not intrested in xbox 360 since there is no Halo 3 or Gears of War as a launch title. Trust me my xbox guru friends are MS fans and they hate Nintendo and SONY with a passion, I can understand people hating SONY, but people who hate Nintendo are just not gammers if you ask me.

Slipdeath
08-17-2005, 02:54 AM
LOL xbox 360 will never be sold out, my xbox guru freinds are not intrested in xbox 360 since there is no Halo 3 or Gears of War as a launch title. Trust me my xbox guru friends are MS fans and they hate Nintendo and SONY with a passion, I can understand people hating SONY, but people who hate Nintendo are just not gammers if you ask me.
Oh of course because your "xbox guru friends" make up the majority of the consumer audience. As for me I already reserved mine, and I probably will buy it at launch. The only current gen system I bough at launch was the the GC. Even with that I got a completely different feeling. There's something about buying a system at launch. It's great.

njiska
08-17-2005, 03:23 AM
I also wanted to add that the whole MS's idea of multiple verisons of the consoles and later consoles coming with HD-DVD are truely pissing me off.

1. I can garantee you that in Blueray vs HD-DVD war, HD-DVD has a pretty slim chance of winning
2. A definitlon of a console is its components never change through its cycle, MS is going to break this and put a pc out. Imageing games on HD-DVD and then games on multiiple dvds. You need to think 7 years ahead of the console's release date, and I think MS is not thinking, they think that putting out xbox 360 first will sell more than PS3.

Well someone never owned a Nintendo 64 expansion pack, now did they?. It's esentially the same situation, except that HD-DVD is far more useful. By the way here's the definition of a video game console from Wikipedia:

"A video game console is a dedicated electronic device designed to play video games. Often the output device is a separate television or a computer monitor."

Nothing in there about consoles lacking expandabilty.

And there is no way you can guarantee that Blu-Ray will win. The studios are fairly evenly split and remember Sony has a long track record of launching new media and having it fail. Mini-disc, Beta, Atrac, all failed. Toshiba knew what they were doing with DVD and they know what they're doing with HD-DVD. Blu-Ray is considerably more expensive to produce then HD-DVD as well and that could be a point for HD-DVD at retail. The winner of the war is far from choosen.


Laughing xbox 360 will never be sold out, my xbox guru freinds are not intrested in xbox 360 since there is no Halo 3 or Gears of War as a launch title. Trust me my xbox guru friends are MS fans and they hate Nintendo and SONY with a passion, I can understand people hating SONY, but people who hate Nintendo are just not gammers if you ask me.

Your xbox guru friends don't sound like Guru's to me and they don't sound like MS fans either, then sound like MS fanboys. Big difference.

There are lots of gamers who hate Nintendo by the way. I'm not one of them, but i do know a few old-school Sega fans who to this day think Nintendo is over-rated. Their gamers, they just have a different choice.

Anyways the 360 will most likely sell out for 5 simple reasons.

1. It's a christams launch, come on it's at least gonna sell out in NA.
2. Perfect Dark Zero. Believe it or not there are a lot of people out there who want PDZ and right now it looks like a possible launch title.
3. DOA4 It's gonna sell boxes in Japan just like the DOA3 did. I don't think it's gonna sell out in Japan, but then again with the fight MS has to have to keep shelf space in Japan it's a possiblity.
4. PGR3. Sure it's not as good a racer as Grand Turismo or Forza, but damn if it ain't pretty. If PGR2 is any indication it will sell well and sell 360's. Oh and don't forget the Ridge Racer always sells consoles.
5. Supply. It's hard to supply the number of consoles needed to meet demand when launching in one region, let alone all 3.

Xbox has a little something at launch for everyone.

RPG - Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion
Fighting - DOA4
Racing - PGR3, RR6, Full Auto, Test Drive: Unlimited, ND4SPD: Most Wanted
FPS - PDZ, Condemed, Gun

It's a nice rich mix, and a shit load of my money.

joeuser
08-17-2005, 03:24 AM
At first I wanted one but now i keep reading about all these variations of xbox 360's that are going to come out and I feel like I just want to wait and see. I hate buying something only to see a better version of it come out 6 months later. I want to get one for sure probably not at launch though.
100% agreed. If they will release different version, they will piss off people. "Requires harddisk and HD-DVD". What about the people who bought the launch version with DVD without HD? Buy a new one again? This is a console, not a f**king PC which we need to upgrade every 3 month. A console stays how it is a lauch date, with bug fixed over years, but not with additional components. I wait and see what they are going to do.

If it will be a console which I need to upgrade, then no Xbox360 for me!

njiska
08-17-2005, 03:31 AM
At first I wanted one but now i keep reading about all these variations of xbox 360's that are going to come out and I feel like I just want to wait and see. I hate buying something only to see a better version of it come out 6 months later. I want to get one for sure probably not at launch though.
100% agreed. If they will release different version, they will piss off people. "Requires harddisk and HD-DVD". What about the people who bought the launch version with DVD without HD? Buy a new one again? This is a console, not a f**king PC which we need to upgrade every 3 month. A console stays how it is a lauch date, with bug fixed over years, but not with additional components. I wait and see what they are going to do.

If it will be a console which I need to upgrade, then no Xbox360 for me!

It wouldn't be that way, it'd be just one big upgrade around the middle of it's life cycle. The multiple variatiions that Allard mention most like refers to the rumours that a cheaper version would be sold without a stock HDD.

And it's been said somewhere (if i find the link i'll post it here) that the 360 would be upgradeable to include HD-DVD. Most likely an addon to connect to the HDD slot. Unless the stock drive is easily removeable.

joeuser
08-17-2005, 04:27 AM
It wouldn't be that way, it'd be just one big upgrade around the middle of it's life cycle. The multiple variatiions that Allard mention most like refers to the rumours that a cheaper version would be sold without a stock HDD.

And it's been said somewhere (if i find the link i'll post it here) that the 360 would be upgradeable to include HD-DVD. Most likely an addon to connect to the HDD slot. Unless the stock drive is easily removeable.
I really hope, it is just this. But anyway, so far is everything speculation. Let's wait and see what happens.

But back to the question: No, I will not buy one at launch ;)

AlexKidd
08-17-2005, 04:33 AM
I am getting it just so I can play elder scrolls oblivion, because morrowind on xbox was so awsome, and was also my first game on xbox.

Same here, I was going to skip the 360 and only get a Revolution but I really want to play Oblivion so i'll be getting one at launch. I'll get that game and maybe Project Gotham 3.

Gunstar_Hero UK
08-17-2005, 05:37 AM
Im defntley going to get one as soon as possible. Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo and Ninety Nine Nights are the games Im most looking forward to.

But of course, all the talk on being different variations has changed my mind a bit. Im sure I'll still end up getting one asap.

Joe. :)

Six Switch
08-17-2005, 09:29 AM
maybe

depends on the launch games and my money situation at the time.we'll see how that all goes.

chrisbid
08-17-2005, 09:34 AM
i wont be getting one, for it will most likely exceed my 199 dollar limit on hardware

an official price point would be nice, here we are three months away and there has still yet to be any official word on how much this thing will be.

suckerpunch5
08-17-2005, 12:34 PM
not me. official U.S. prices are out, and it is $300 for a bare bones model.

$300 = to FREAKING expensive!!

FurinkanianFrood
08-17-2005, 01:05 PM
Meh. I will probably buy one eventually unless Microsoft keeps making doofy little mistakes and frightens me off.

The whole two level thing is awful. Who the hell wants to buy such a neutered version of the system? Good luck playing Elder Scrolls 4 on that thing.

As for the DVD thing, I doubt MS will release an HD-DVD version, but MS aren't exactly on the ball this time (they never really were of course, I haven't used Winblows at home for several years).

I don't see either HD format getting anywhere in the US market in the short term.

Mainstream consumers aren't ready.

It is way too soon for a new format. Blu-ray is getting hyped like hell on the net by a bunch of weirdos is about the extent of things at this point. HD-DVD is nowhere at the moment.

njiska
08-17-2005, 01:11 PM
not me. official U.S. prices are out, and it is $300 for a bare bones model.

$300 = to FREAKING expensive!!

$300 = NORMAL LAUNCH

Overbite
08-17-2005, 01:22 PM
I have never paid more than $150 for a console and I don't plan on changing that.

jajaja
08-17-2005, 01:38 PM
Nope, going for PS3 instead :)

fpstream
08-17-2005, 04:25 PM
I also wanted to add that the whole MS's idea of multiple verisons of the consoles and later consoles coming with HD-DVD are truely pissing me off.

1. I can garantee you that in Blueray vs HD-DVD war, HD-DVD has a pretty slim chance of winning
2. A definitlon of a console is its components never change through its cycle, MS is going to break this and put a pc out. Imageing games on HD-DVD and then games on multiiple dvds. You need to think 7 years ahead of the console's release date, and I think MS is not thinking, they think that putting out xbox 360 first will sell more than PS3.

I'm not sure who would win. People might now want to make a big step up. They like their DVDs, they're comfortable with them. People liked thier VHS, they could've put movies on CDs, but nope, people didn't want to take that step. Not to mention that Blu-Ray is so more expensive. I think it's 50/50 who'd win. While Blu-Ray certainly better, does the public think so? Maybe someday people will wake up and we'll have Blu-Ray burners on our AMD powered PCs... Someday...

PS2Hawk
08-17-2005, 04:40 PM
so here is the break down:

400 dollars for the console the hard drive and the wireless controller or 300 us for the console and wired controller and then the memcard, I think its a wise choice to wait for PS3 and Revolution.

PS3 has better pixel precision for better picture(128bit on PS3 and 32 bit on xbox 360)
to be exact. The Cell is more advance and not to mention the blue ray dvd player.

chrisbid
08-17-2005, 04:49 PM
so here is the break down:

400 dollars for the console the hard drive and the wireless controller or 300 us for the console and wired controller and then the memcard, I think its a wise choice to wait for PS3 and Revolution.

PS3 has better pixel precision for better picture(128bit on PS3 and 32 bit on xbox 360)
to be exact. The Cell is more advance and not to mention the blue ray dvd player.

its crap arguments like these that make me long for the early 90's when systems with superior hardware but inferior games sank into the abyss. who gives a flying **** what a system is capable of, if first and third parties are having enough trouble making fun games after 4+ years on the current generation of hardware, what will better hardware do for these companies? The time looks ripe for a hiatus from modern gaming, i may pick up a PSP and Revolution if the price is right and the games are there, but until then, ill stick to collecting the oldies.

s1lence
08-17-2005, 05:30 PM
I'm getting it because I always get systems at launch. I've only ever had problems with a launch system with the first xbox, it would play every game but Mech Assault.

BrokenFlight
08-17-2005, 06:31 PM
not me. official U.S. prices are out, and it is $300 for a bare bones model.

$300 = too FREAKING expensive!!

$300 = NORMAL LAUNCH

REALLY? SHIT THAT'S CHEAP. That's only £160. Normal launch prices here are £300 or $540. I don't see myself buying an Xbox 360 for quite a while. It doesn't really appeal to me, mainly because I'm sort of a PS fanboy. I'll be going for the PS3 either when the price comes down or when GTA4 comes out. Probably in late 2007 or 2008, then. :(

Gamemaster_ca_2003
08-17-2005, 06:46 PM
Nope Not at Launch Not in the first few years Not 30 from Now when they are $10 at my nearest Pawn shop. I WILL NEVER HAVE AN XBOX OR AN XBOX360.

diskoboy
08-17-2005, 08:25 PM
Probably not at launch. From what I've heard, Microshaft is putting regular DVD-9 players in the first few million, so the prices of HD-DVD drives have a chance to drop in price.

That's what I've heard.... Just a rumor. Don't know if it's true or not. If it's NOT... I may pick one up if I see a game that strikes me.. Gears of War isn't gonna be out at launch - otherwise the awnser would've definately been "Hell yeah, I'm getting one!"

The only game I see on launch day that looks good, so far, is Full Auto. But it's not a system seller..

Archenemy
08-17-2005, 09:30 PM
Don't count on me.

I have never bought something in the first two or three YEARS of production. I hate recent/new consoles mostly because I dislike so much games nowadays... They lack of everything games used to have...

So nope, I won't get it anytime soon. If I ever get it, of course.

njiska
08-17-2005, 11:49 PM
so here is the break down:

400 dollars for the console the hard drive and the wireless controller or 300 us for the console and wired controller and then the memcard, I think its a wise choice to wait for PS3 and Revolution.

PS3 has better pixel precision for better picture(128bit on PS3 and 32 bit on xbox 360)
to be exact. The Cell is more advance and not to mention the blue ray dvd player.

PS2Hawk I challenge you to prove what you've just said. Prove that the Xenos is a 32-bit processor and prove that the RSX is a 128-bit processor and remember we're talking about memory addressing here, not memory bandwidth. Do it and I'll be impressed.

Don't forget that the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player for now, but things could change before it launches. The PS3 has already lost one feature.

PS2Hawk
08-17-2005, 11:52 PM
so here is the break down:

400 dollars for the console the hard drive and the wireless controller or 300 us for the console and wired controller and then the memcard, I think its a wise choice to wait for PS3 and Revolution.

PS3 has better pixel precision for better picture(128bit on PS3 and 32 bit on xbox 360)
to be exact. The Cell is more advance and not to mention the blue ray dvd player.

PS2Hawk I challenge you to prove what you've just said. Prove that the Xenos is a 32-bit processor and prove that the RSX is a 128-bit processor and remember we're talking about memory addressing here, not memory bandwidth. Do it and I'll be impressed.

Don't forget that the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player for now, but things could change before it launches. The PS3 has already lost one feature.


LMAO I said that PS3's GPU RSX has 128 bit pixel precision.

njiska
08-17-2005, 11:54 PM
not me. official U.S. prices are out, and it is $300 for a bare bones model.

$300 = too FREAKING expensive!!

$300 = NORMAL LAUNCH

REALLY? SHIT THAT'S CHEAP. That's only £160. Normal launch prices here are £300 or $540. I don't see myself buying an Xbox 360 for quite a while. It doesn't really appeal to me, mainly because I'm sort of a PS fanboy. I'll be going for the PS3 either when the price comes down or when GTA4 comes out. Probably in late 2007 or 2008, then. :(

If only it were true. Unfortuneately the UK, just like here in Canada, we get different pricing, not exchange-rate pricing.

$299.99 U.S./€299.99/£209.99 - Core System
$399.99 U.S./€399.99/£279.99 - Bundle

Oh and i realized something tonight while reading OXM. The 360 is suppose to have a 40GB HDD coming out in the first part of next year. If this is true, maybe the Core system will be worth it for people willing to wait for the bigger HDD. And when that HDD launches the Core system will look far more appealing.

Although that doesn't change the fact that you get a wired controller with it.

njiska
08-17-2005, 11:56 PM
so here is the break down:

400 dollars for the console the hard drive and the wireless controller or 300 us for the console and wired controller and then the memcard, I think its a wise choice to wait for PS3 and Revolution.

PS3 has better pixel precision for better picture(128bit on PS3 and 32 bit on xbox 360)
to be exact. The Cell is more advance and not to mention the blue ray dvd player.

PS2Hawk I challenge you to prove what you've just said. Prove that the Xenos is a 32-bit processor and prove that the RSX is a 128-bit processor and remember we're talking about memory addressing here, not memory bandwidth. Do it and I'll be impressed.

Don't forget that the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player for now, but things could change before it launches. The PS3 has already lost one feature.


LMAO I said that PS3's GPU RSX has 128 bit pixel precision.

Ah you are corect and i apologize for my misreading. However i'd still like to see some proof about those pixel percision numbers.

PS2Hawk
08-17-2005, 11:58 PM
its in the SONY E3 Press conference. The CEO of NVIDIA, mentioned it while presenting and also right after that he also showed the comparision between 32 bit and 128 bit. its really intresting to see how sharp the difference comes out to.

njiska
08-18-2005, 12:10 AM
its in the SONY E3 Press conference. The CEO of NVIDIA, mentioned it while presenting and also right after that he also showed the comparision between 32 bit and 128 bit. its really intresting to see how sharp the difference comes out to.

Ok i just watched that part of the Sony conference and i'll admit that the RSX is impressive, but it's more then just the pixel percision (although it is good). However i'd still like to see proof that the Xenos uses 32-bit precision, since that's the part of you're arguement that i had a problem with. Namely since i can't find anything that says that.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:12 AM
128 bit pixel precision is technology, certianly MS hasn't mentioned anything on it so I assumed that Xbox 360 will be using the same as this generation.

njiska
08-18-2005, 12:17 AM
128 bit pixel precision is technology, certianly MS hasn't mentioned anything on it so I assumed that Xbox 360 will be using the same as this generation.

That's a dangerous thing to assume since NVIDIA and ATI are constantly trying to one up each other. It's never safe to assume.

To be honest i'd kind of like to see both processors render the same scene and see which one looks better. They're so drastically different in design that i think that's really the only way to see which is better.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:19 AM
there was an article just a few days ago that xbox 360's CPU and GPU were finalizes 9 months ago. Anyways its pretty good if xbox also uses 128 bit, I hope PS3 is also 400 US no more.

njiska
08-18-2005, 12:28 AM
there was an article just a few days ago that xbox 360's CPU and GPU were finalizes 9 months ago. Anyways its pretty good if xbox also uses 128 bit, I hope PS3 is also 400 US no more.

Yeah a man can dream. I'm kind of forced into a corner because, i just don't trust Sony to build a console that will last, yet i have to buy a PS3 for Metal Gear and Devil may Cry. I have a feeling that it's gonna be a really expensive machine but it's going to break on me.

Sony will be taking one hell of a loss launching at $400 and honestly i think the only way in hell that they'd ever do that is if the 360 was a big success. If 360 doesn't sell well (snow balls chance in hell) then Sony won't have to worry about competition and can charge more for the console. So i guess it's in both our best interests that the 360 should sell well.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:36 AM
Well most of my hardcore Halo fans are certianly not happy with the pricing and not getting it as of yet. That does not mean they are getting PS3 .. they will just wait till price drop.

njiska
08-18-2005, 12:45 AM
Well most of my hardcore Halo fans are certianly not happy with the pricing and not getting it as of yet. That does not mean they are getting PS3 .. they will just wait till price drop.

To be fair i think that's what most people say when a console launches. Consoles do sell a lot of stock when they launch, but it's just peanuts compared to what they sell over the course of the next 4 years because the largest part of there audience either can't afford it at launch, or are going to wait.

I'm buying a 360 at launch because it really has some games i can't wait to play (DOA4, Full Auto, PDZ, PGR3, etc.) but also because money burns a hole in my pocket. See it's people like me who will support the next gen at the start. People who don't think about the cost.

So since you seem to be pretty hyped up about the PS3 i'm curious, will you buy it at launch? and if so how much are you willing to spend?

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:53 AM
Well the thing with PS3 is that I just feel it will be similar to ps2 in game library. there are so many games on PS2 and I persoanlny thing that the developers who had sucess on PS2 will continue on PS3.

I played all the Metal Gear Solids, DMCs, God of War, Onimushas, I am playing though Final Fantasy and Shadow Hearts 2. HTen I have Smackdown games that I just LOVE. Tekken series, Jak SLY and ratched......

So if these developers stay and develop for PS3 I am willing to pay up to 700 US for the console on launch day. The thing with xbox is that I only play Halo and one or 2 shooters. I am really disappointed in Fable and Jade Empire. So hoenslty man Xbox hasn't left a good impression on me.
how ever in november I get 20 percent off at walmart. So IF ...<-- thats a big if, something happens and I feel or if I think I might wanna try something new I might pick up the core sytem pack and a game.

its going to be 399.99 CDN so I will be paying 320plus taxes..... I paid 239.99 for the PSP in March, how ever now the deparment managers only get 20% offer near christmas season. my mom is a dep manager.

But PS3 is the main thing I am looking forward to.

njiska
08-18-2005, 01:10 AM
Well the thing with PS3 is that I just feel it will be similar to ps2 in game library. there are so many games on PS2 and I persoanlny thing that the developers who had sucess on PS2 will continue on PS3.

I played all the Metal Gear Solids, DMCs, God of War, Onimushas, I am playing though Final Fantasy and Shadow Hearts 2. HTen I have Smackdown games that I just LOVE. Tekken series, Jak SLY and ratched......

So if these developers stay and develop for PS3 I am willing to pay up to 700 US for the console on launch day. The thing with xbox is that I only play Halo and one or 2 shooters. I am really disappointed in Fable and Jade Empire. So hoenslty man Xbox hasn't left a good impression on me.
how ever in november I get 20 percent off at walmart. So IF ...<-- thats a big if, something happens and I feel or if I think I might wanna try something new I might pick up the core sytem pack and a game.

its going to be 399.99 CDN so I will be paying 320plus taxes..... I paid 239.99 for the PSP in March, how ever now the deparment managers only get 20% offer near christmas season. my mom is a dep manager.

But PS3 is the main thing I am looking forward to.

Holy SHIT! Your really do love Sony. I never expected you to say $700 USD. Christ your worse then i am with money. LOL.

Seriously though i understand why your outlook on the big green box is so jaded. If i'm not mistake you're an RPG fan right? Well Fable was a huge disappointment and Jade Empire was kind of cool but i wasn't very impressed either. However the 360 does have good support for RPG fans. Specifically they have Mistwalker.

The company is run by Hironobu Sakaguchi and Nobuo Uematsu is rumoured to be doing the music. Those 2 factors alone make it something you'll enjoy.

I think you need to explore the Xbox libary a little deeper. There's more then just shooters out there, but sadly they don't get much attention. It's no where nearly as diverse as the PS2 but that's changing with the 360.

And you just explained why there are 2 SKU's. People like you will be the people buying the Core system. People like me will be getting the bundle.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 01:14 AM
well like I said that if I change my mind I might get it. So if xbox 360 launches will good software and good reviews pop out I might get the 499.99 one which will cost me only 399.99

supaevil
08-18-2005, 07:36 AM
I am getting the 400 dollar one would love to have wireless controller with the power to turn off from the couch interchangable faceplates hd compatbility. It gives me something to look forward to most of all i guess gets me excited for something can you put a price on that? Wouldnt be excited for this system and waited however if it wasnt for morrowind oblivion the reason i am getting this system i liked the xbox version except for the freezing. If the 360 has freezing dirty disc errors i will be really disapointed and long for cartridges or better tech that woulndt be prone to faults. Also plan to sell my dirty disc ridden xbox and most games i dont play anymore or got my moneys worth out of for the xbox 360. Keep the good backwards compatible games san andreas , halo 2. If i am rambling its cause i ve been drinking a stone ipa and a stone arrogant bastard yum cheers.!!!!!!!!!

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:15 PM
I have a funny feeling about xbox 360's baclkward compatibility.

buttasuperb
08-18-2005, 12:20 PM
I have a funny feeling about xbox 360's baclkward compatibility.

I have a funny feeling PS3 will have almost nothing I want to play, just like PS2. :)

But yea, the fact that there's nothing concrete about X360's backwards compatibility is worrying.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:28 PM
I have a funny feeling about xbox 360's baclkward compatibility.

I have a funny feeling PS3 will have almost nothing I want to play, just like PS2. :)

But yea, the fact that there's nothing concrete about X360's backwards compatibility is worrying.

I am certian that xbox360 will flop harder than xbox :) Xbox is still loosing on hardware... this is for your first comment

buttasuperb
08-18-2005, 12:49 PM
I am certian that xbox360 will flop harder than xbox :) Xbox is still loosing on hardware... this is for your first comment

If the xbox was a flop, we wouldn't be seeing the xbox 360.

And anyways I don't give a shit about sales numbers, I care about good games, and IMO (key word here) xbox has far more of them than PS2. At least in the USA.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 12:52 PM
OKAY you win.

bargora
08-18-2005, 12:59 PM
The last time I heard anything detailed about 360s backward-compatibility it was that the backward-compatibility would have to be specifically programmed for each individual game. Thus, if true, not all games would be supported. And I don't know if that plan was to involve downloading compatibility software via Xbox Live.

Of course, I read it on the internets, so it may be completely bogus.

Mitch_Naz
08-18-2005, 01:02 PM
I wont get it right on launch day, but buy it for Christmas. I will be putting in 250 bux and family the rest, I can only imagine getting the Core system because its going be around 349.99 Cdn which is alot just for Perfect Dark and Quake 4 but I hope it will be worth when I fire it up on the 25th of December. See you on Xbox live silver :( or maybe me current live account will be transfered :-P

buttasuperb
08-18-2005, 01:03 PM
OKAY you win.

Do I get a prize?

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 06:32 PM
OKAY you win.

Do I get a prize?

yea I don't argue will noobs, figure out the prize.

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 06:34 PM
I wont get it right on launch day, but buy it for Christmas. I will be putting in 250 bux and family the rest, I can only imagine getting the Core system because its going be around 349.99 Cdn which is alot just for Perfect Dark and Quake 4 but I hope it will be worth when I fire it up on the 25th of December. See you on Xbox live silver :( or maybe me current live account will be transfered :-P

Sorry to bust ur bubble the core system is 399 CDN, it should be 366CDN after conversion, MS is ripping off the canadian customers, I hope you can use the Xbox memcard to transfer saves from xbox to 360. I checked the prices on xbox.com

krbrunn
08-18-2005, 06:54 PM
I don't think its a rip off if thats what you were willing to pay. Anyway, my 360 is fully paid off except the taxes, and on payday that will be all paid off as well. Then starting every payday from now until launch I will preorder and pay off one game, until there are no more games I want to preorder. First on the list to be preordered: Oblivion. :D

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 06:56 PM
I don't think its a rip off if thats what you were willing to pay. Anyway, my 360 is fully paid off except the taxes, and on payday that will be all paid off as well. Then starting every payday from now until launch I will preorder and pay off one game, until there are no more games I want to preorder. First on the list to be preordered: Oblivion. :D

can you switch to third person in that game ?

buttasuperb
08-18-2005, 07:10 PM
OKAY you win.

Do I get a prize?

yea I don't argue will noobs, figure out the prize.

hahahahahah

holy shit

ahahahahahahaha

Retsudo
08-18-2005, 07:52 PM
I have a funny feeling about xbox 360's baclkward compatibility.

I have a funny feeling PS3 will have almost nothing I want to play, just like PS2. :)


Same way i feel about the Xbox. I was going to buy one, but cant find one game I want to play. But thats not the reason it will stear me away from the Xbox360. That would be kind of a prejudement.

walrusmonger
08-18-2005, 08:04 PM
got my xbox on launch and will get the 360 premium on launch with a hopefully released at launch wood grain facepalte. NOTHING beats wood grain :)

ridge racer+elder scrolls+perfect dark+kameo+pgr3+doa4= sold!


I'll get my ps3 when MGS4 comes out.

buttasuperb
08-18-2005, 08:53 PM
Same way i feel about the Xbox. I was going to buy one, but cant find one game I want to play.

I thought you were a fighting game fan?

Or do you not play online?

Trebuken
08-18-2005, 08:56 PM
Why does the Xbox 360 need backward compatibility? Anyone who wants it probably has an Xbox already. (the traditional argument of 'I only want to connect one system' seems silly on this site...please check out the Rooms of Doom).

The price is equally meaningless. If you adjust for inflation the Xbox 360 is going to be cheaper than an Atari 2600 on release day.

Technology is insignificant, it's software that is important. The PS2 is the weakest system of the the curreny generation, technically, yet over 91 million units have been sold, obliterating Xbox and Gamecube. The Game library for the PS2 is larger than Xbox and Gamecube combined as well.

I can understand that some people have to choose one system over the other for budgetary reasons, but can't we all just admit that they are going to be competitive for at least the next couple years (is the revolution going to be significant?)?.

Hardware seems to be the novelty of the upcoming generation (it was tried before with 3DO, CD-I, etc), but I think it will only be meaningful in this generation. Different console specifications for different budgets. New versions for repeat sales, and to bring to life a new generation of DVD's...

My Xbox 360 is oreirdered and partially paid for. I'm on the call list for a PS3 preorder. My tax refund should be just in time for that PS3, and should be more than enough for it whatever the price...

(I bought a 3DO for $700+, was a great way to build my credit when I was in my teens).

Trebuken

PS2Hawk
08-18-2005, 08:58 PM
if that oblivion is third person and Ridge Racer is as good as the PSP one ... thats pretty tempting.

Yago
08-18-2005, 09:54 PM
I have a 360 pre-ordered. So I will get it at launch. And if for some reason I am completely unhappy with the system, I figured getting rid of it would be a peice of cake. Being that close to the Holidays and a limited supply available, a lot of people would be more than happy to pay a few extra bucks for one. I think many would want one for thier kids before X-Mas arrives. I know the manager at EB Games where I got mine got a couple for himself for that very reason.

Retsudo
08-19-2005, 01:07 AM
Same way i feel about the Xbox. I was going to buy one, but cant find one game I want to play.

I thought you were a fighting game fan?

Or do you not play online?
Yeah, im a fighting game fan. Mostly play Tekken.
As for online, I used to play Socom, but got bored of it so I do my online playing on my computer.