Future PS2 Rarities..?

[BeowulfXXIV]

So, which PS2 games do you think, in the future will become really rare and sought after. I mean there are already a few quite sought after, but what's your opinions?

Which games do you think, currently released or to be released, in a couple years will become the average man's "Who would pay that much for a game!?"

~Nick

[njiska]

Well if Shadow of the Colussus ends up being treated like ICO i imagine it's gonna be rare.

[BeowulfXXIV]

Well if Shadow of the Colussus ends up being treated like ICO i imagine it's gonna be rare.Speaking of which, have you played it? I personally thought it played a bit like Zelda, but the graphics are beautiful! And yeah, Shadow of the Colossus does sound like a rarity...

[roushimsx]

Well if Shadow of the Colussus ends up being treated like ICO i imagine it's gonna be rare.


and by rare you mean you'll be able to pick it up just about anywhere years after its release for $15 brand new?

[bazariah]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else

[BeowulfXXIV]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything elseDarkcloud One or Two? Or perhaps both? I have DC2, and I feel it will become rare...

[njiska]

Well if Shadow of the Colussus ends up being treated like ICO i imagine it's gonna be rare.Speaking of which, have you played it? I personally thought it played a bit like Zelda, but the graphics are beautiful! And yeah, Shadow of the Colossus does sound like a rarity...

Yeah i've played the demo and it really is awe inspiring, HOWEVER the game is esentially nothing but 16 boss fights and that's the kind of thing that doesn't carry well with most of the market. Amazing game or not i don't think it will do overly well at retail in america and that will most likely lead to fewer copies being produced. Here's hoping that it is a success though.

[Cmosfm]

First of all, here's the official PS2 "rarity" thread:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30787

And second of all, not a single game mentioned in this thread will ever be considered anything more than "uncommon".

[sisko]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else

I disagree with all of these titles. Dark Cloud is greatest hits, and I find at least one of each of those three titles at every used game store I go to (a regional thing?)

Titles that seem to be disappearing:

Mr Mosquito
Sky Gunner
Dual Hearts
Gitaroo Man
Tsugunai
FD18 Figherfighter (something like that anyway)
Culdecept

[XianXi]

A good one to pick since it is out of print and wont come out with a sequel is Marvel vs Capcom 2. The demand is so high for this game already. It sells on eBay for about $40-70 complete. Luckily I bought these from all the local blockbusters in excellent shape for only $10 each. I have 6 copies for PS2 and 1 mint complete copy for XBOX.

Also another one is Moto GP 3.

[PDorr3]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else

I disagree with all of these titles. Dark Cloud is greatest hits, and I find at least one of each of those three titles at every used game store I go to (a regional thing?)

Titles that seem to be disappearing:

Mr Mosquito
Sky Gunner
Dual Hearts
Gitaroo Man
Tsugunai
FD18 Figherfighter (something like that anyway)
Culdecept

Yes I tried forever to find a mr misquito in the wild, but I finaly found one in EB not long ago.

I have not seen sky gunner in the wild in a looong time

Dual hearts is rare IMO, I have never seen it in the wild but I finaly got a copy from a trade here.

Gitaroo man is a no doubt rarity

Tsugunai is another game I never recall seeing in the wild

Also I think klonoa 2 will become rare, I hardly ever see it

Rez as well is rare

[Famidrive-16]

I'd say Gun Runner and FD18 will probably be rare. FD seems rare as it is, and I've never seen Gun Runner in the wild, since if I did, I'd buy it immediately.

I'd say Mad Maestro is a bit rarer than Mr. Mosquito. I see the latter much, much more than the former. Although I guess it's a regional thing, like DS has said before.

[Cmosfm]

I'd say Gun Runner and FD18 will probably be rare. FD seems rare as it is, and I've never seen Gun Runner in the wild, since if I did, I'd buy it immediately.

I'd say Mad Maestro is a bit rarer than Mr. Mosquito. I see the latter much, much more than the former. Although I guess it's a regional thing, like DS has said before.

I'm sorry, but I don't think Gun Runner exists. Are you sure you got the name right? I can't even find anything on Google about it.

[PDorr3]

Im not sure maybe he meant sky gunner? sound like gun runner.... kinda

[Mark III]

I doubt if some of these will be woth anything but in a couple years these games will be a bitch to find in the wild:

Nightmare of Druaga
Crimson Sea 2
Wizardry (This one is already tough to find)
Culdcept
Ephemeral Fantasia
Klonoa 2
Non GH Kingdom Hearts



I'd say Mad Maestro is a bit rarer than Mr. Mosquito. I see the latter much, much more than the former. Although I guess it's a regional thing, like DS has said before.

Must be a regional thing, I probably see 5 Mad Maestro's to every Mr. Mosquito where I live.

[Vectorman0]

What do you guys know about Yanya Caballista? I picked up a brand new one boxed for $10 a couple weeks ago, as I couldn't recall ever seeing it before.

[PDorr3]

Oh yea I forgot about ephemeral fantasia.
I rarely ever see that game in the wild, infact for such a game that good such bad reviews (I actualy kinda enjoyed it though) it still goes for $15-20 shipped on ebay. Not dirt cheap if you ask me.

Also I can imagine ICO becoming rare in the future. Sure there are tons on ebay that can be bought for $10, but the game is just so unknown by casual gamers, and even hardcore gamers as well that in a few years I wouldent doubt seeing ICO on ebay for double or triple what its going for now because suddenly it cant be found in stores anymore.

Also if shadow of the colossus is a success, then fans of that game will seek out copies of Ico if they learn it was made by the same team that did Shadow.

Ico is not rare right now, its common on ebay, and uncommon in the wild.

[zerohero]

I'd add ZOE 2nd runner to the list. Give it a few years and watch.

[Famidrive-16]

Im not sure maybe he meant sky gunner? sound like gun runner.... kinda

That's what I meant. Whoops! :embarrassed:

I've got a headache today and it shows...

[Griking]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else


I hear this all the time but I see Suikoden III and Klonoa almost every time I walk into a EBWorld or Gamestop. I can't imagine that either of them are rare at all.

And while I'm not sure about it being rare I'll admit that Wizardry was a bitch to find for me.

[VG_Maniac]

Gradius III & IV seems to be pretty uncommon. I know it's almost always on ebay...but I never see it in the wild. The one time I did find it in a video game store was when I bought it...and that was about 3 years ago.

[sealboy6]

adventure's of cookie and cream
ring of red
Maybe...

[Sailorneorune]

The Fatal Frame and Clock Tower games seem to be fairly hard to find (there are copies of Fatal Frame and Clock Tower 3 at a local shop for like $20-ish each).

I may start a thread or ask about one to be made for possible GC rarities...

Sailorneorune

[Queen Of The Felines]

Unison and Victorious Boxers. I've only seen those ONCE and there's at least forty game stores/department stores/electronic stores in my general area.

Kristine

[BeowulfXXIV]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else


I hear this all the time but I see Suikoden III and Klonoa almost every time I walk into a EBWorld or Gamestop. I can't imagine that either of them are rare at all.

And while I'm not sure about it being rare I'll admit that Wizardry was a bitch to find for me.Well you have to consider, Suikoden II, Intelligent Qube, Gitaroo Man, games like this were very easy to find the first couple years, some even up to 3-4 years, then they simply vanish. And thus gain the rare status, or, at least uncommon. Personally I think the last Dynasty Warriors (Whatever it may be) Will become rare, because the fan base gets smaller with each one, and thus, hardly anyone will buy the final one. But when it's first released, you'll see it EVERYWHERE...

[norkusa]

Unison - obscure music/rhythm game from Tecmo that I never see anywhere (even on Ebay).

Gallop Racer Series/G1 Jockey - never see these anywhere either, especially G1 and GR 2001.

P.T.O. IV

Ace Combat 5 flight stick bundle

Digital Devil Saga 1&2 + Nocturne - RPG's from Atlus. Enough said.

Twisted Metal Back Online - mail away only game. I remember it was selling for $50+ a while back but I haven't checked on it in a while.

[pseudonym]

i'd say that sky gunner, everblue 2, and mr mosquito will be uncommon/rare. i bought them after they came out in canada when i started working retail at eb and i didn't see them come in too much after that.

you also can't forget about rez. i seen here and there when it first came out and then only once in a pawnshop after it was taken down from the shelves.

[Cauterize]

One youre missing!

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00069WG2U.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[xmagxus]

Dual hearts is the rarest current generation game out there across xbox, ps2, and gcn that is if you look strictly at its print numbers. Dual hearts recieved about 3800 copies (i've read 3600 before but from what I have seen its closer to 3800) It's not in high demand though so its a relatively easy game to find if you look online. Though as far as print runs go thats less than that ncaa college basketball game for gamecube even (though not by much) That's the kinda print-run you'd expect to see back on the turbo grafx.

Unison - very rare game but not the rarest, it had 10,000 copies printed (give or take a few of course)

Wizardry for ps2 - I believe it had roughly 18,000 copies printed but I have read reports that fluctuate from 15,000 to 22,000. Number wise it is not the rarest ps2 game but as far as my collection goes this is THE ONLY game I had resort to buying used just to find a copy. I was never able to find this game new after looking for a year in 2004. I'm a freak about only buying "new" games so it says a lot that I had to buy this game used.

Stella deus- not rare it had 45,000 printed and possibly more printed since then.


Cubix: robots for everyone - gamecube version is very common, ps2 version is very rare, it is a blockbuster exclusive but blockbuster seemed to release less of the ps2 version than the gamecube version as far as I know. I don't know the exact numbers on this title but from my experience it is under 10,000

Ace combat 5 (flight stick bundle)- 25,000 printed total



PTO IV - I saw someone else list this game and i'll be honest it's at the very least a very uncommon game, I dont know the numbers on this one and its one of the few rare games out there that I dont have but if anyone knows its exacte release numbers i'd be interested in hearing em.


Gundam franchise on ps2:

None of the gundam games are exactly "rare" but gundam zeonic front is probably the only ps2 gundam game at the moment that is virtually impossible to find factory sealed still (i've had no luck) yet it is fairly common to find it used.

Gundam battle assault 3 was released right at the end of 2004 (december 7th if i recall right, or maybe the 14th) and was pretty hard to find right away, you can find it at online retailers still but it disappeared fast from gamestop.com, ebgames.com and many stores never got many copies of it.

Gundam vs zeta gundam (released 6/28/05 if i recall correctly) is still a fairly new game but honestly how many times have you seen this game in stores? this one has the potential to someday be "rare" but thats purely speculation on my part. Each time a new gundam game comes out it sells a little worse than the previous game so they seem to be releasing less and less of each new gundam game.


Castle shikigami 2- This game is VERY common, I am listing this game because when it first came out it was practially a game that didn't exist - yet existed. Since about a month after it's release it go a massive surge of printed copies and now its relatively easy to find.


Horse racing games:

G1 jockey 3 is the rarest horse racing game on the ps2, gallop racer 2003 would be the 2nd rarest.


The konami games of 2004 that all came out within a month of each other, firefighter fd1, lifeline, etc all are relatively uncommon games, i wouldnt say "rare" but definetly approaching that status as each day passes.

Naval ops warship gunner, and naval ops: commander - I believe as far as rarity goes these are about on equal standing with PTO 4

Hmm it's late I better wrap this up now lest I start rambling off slightly incorrect information. I might have to edit some of this info or add to it later as is.

[kimura]

I also think that R-type final and Gradius V will become hard to find in some years.

And don't forget the excellent Gregory horror show, from Capcom (released here, in Europe, but what about the USA?), which is a superb survival-horror game to my eyes.

[RJ]

I saw ICO last Friday at GameStop: used $15 (up from $10 last time I was there, pretty sure it's the same game)

Used Klonoa 2 was there too, forget how much but more than I spent for my copy some time ago.

Clock Tower 3 for $20??? It was at GameStop used for $10 or less IIRC. Actually, they had quite a few games for $10 & under.
What did piss me off is they had Vampire Night for $25, & I got it for $30 2 weeks ago at GameCrazy, never having seen it ANYWHERE else around here. Grrr!

I've had my Mad Maestro, Mr Mosquito, & Everblue 2 for awhile now. I play them, but Mr Mosquito is still sealed.

[gepeto]

I agree with quite a few post. I also think Victorious boxer is a somewhat rare one. The market is funny, companies always pull a fast one on you. Case in point. I stopped past an Gamestop last week and found used flawless copies of persona 2 and rhapsody in mint like new condition. I had persona 2 but no book each had bonus disks. I bought them. Both a little pricey for a ps1 game 29.99 and 39.99. Then the next 5 gamestops I stopped by each one had both games in mint condition. So much for being rare.

[Gemini-Phoenix]

I think the American games have already started to weed themselves out already. A shave a few PAL ones like Ico CE; Marvel Vs Capcom II; And Space Channel 5 Part II.

I have also noticed a few sealed games go for stupid amounts compared to their unsealed counterparts ~ Rez and Gitaroo Man for example. Being sealed means they are by far much rarer... Sealed Konami games tend to sell for a lot too, as they are known for having not many in that condition

[PDorr3]

I also think RAD will be rare, I have NEVER saw the game in the wild, and have been looking for it for years.

[sisko]

I also think RAD will be rare, I have NEVER saw the game in the wild, and have been looking for it for years.

Really? I see it everywhere.

[djbeatmongrel]

Dual hearts is the rarest current generation game out there across xbox, ps2, and gcn that is if you look strictly at its print numbers. Dual hearts recieved about 3800 copies (i've read 3600 before but from what I have seen its closer to 3800) It's not in high demand though so its a relatively easy game to find if you look online. Though as far as print runs go thats less than that ncaa college basketball game for gamecube even (though not by much) That's the kinda print-run you'd expect to see back on the turbo grafx.

i think my job has a copy of this used, i'll have to double check.

out of what i think will be rarities i'll list 'em:
Rez (no brainer there)
Cookies n Cream
F.D. 18
Mad Maestro! (i'd say atleast a 6 of 7 on the DB scale)
Mister Misquito (same as mad maestro)
Culdcept
Yany Caballista (complete with the thumb board)
Disaster report
Gitaroo Man

those are my predictions with my limited knowledge.

[bazariah]

i'd say the true rarities will be stuff like dark cloud and suikoden 3

possibly other titles like klonoa 2.. and the last real games on the system, before the budget stuff out-sells everything else

I disagree with all of these titles. Dark Cloud is greatest hits, and I find at least one of each of those three titles at every used game store I go to (a regional thing?)

Titles that seem to be disappearing:

Mr Mosquito
Sky Gunner
Dual Hearts
Gitaroo Man
Tsugunai
FD18 Figherfighter (something like that anyway)
Culdecept

i was merely going by how things are in the uk...

back when i had my game shop i'd get dark cloud in once every 2 months, unlike something like gta vice city which i'd get another used one each day

Mr Mosquito can be pretty common over here i've had more of them than i have dark cloud


thinking about it another game which coul;d become uber rare at some point is gradius 3 and 4, i saw two copies once in a rental shop for the first time in four years last year and bought them both there and then, sold one for £35 and kept the other

[Gemini-Phoenix]

Mr Mosquito can be found here in most supermarkets for about £7-£8. Hardly what i'd call rare. Same for Mad Maestro.

Gitaroo Man on the other hand... I was lucky to have found a sealed copy in my local Tesco for the same price. It's unlikely that you'd ever find a future rare game for sale in a supermarket though, as they tend to buy stuff in bulk.


Klonoa II is a game that has been classified as "Rare" for some time. Same for Dark Cloud. As has Ico CE. Space Channel 5 Part II never got a UK release, hence why it sells for so much ~ Last sealed one I saw on eBay sold for nearly £70!


You have to distinguish between American and PAL releases though. What may be rare in America (Say, Rez on PS2) can be pretty common and cheap here. Same for Firefighter: FD 18


You also have a lot of games which never got a UK release. Half the reason they sell for so much is because us Brit's are bidding on them forcing the prices up (Due to the exchange rate, we can technically pay twice what any normal American would pay)


Metal Gear Solid: Substance is becoming quite hard to find lately too. Same for the Nippon Ichi games, and a few Konami games like Ephemeral Fantasia.


I think it's a safe bet that any future PS2 rare games will be RPG's and / or obscure weird & wonderful Jappanny style games (Such as Katamari style games)

[Aussie2B]

Keep in mind that what's rare will not necessarily be what's valuable. I'm sure that there will be at least a couple RPGs that could be called "rare", but I'm guessing most the ones that'll shoot up in price will NOT be rare, just in high demand.

Anyway, when I visit family on the west coast, I see Mad Maestro EVERYWHERE. I can't imagine it ever being rare.

[BeowulfXXIV]

Wow I'd just like to say I'm glad I made such a hot topic ^^. I actually own quite a few of the games named here! Here's a list of games I own that I think will be worth quite a bit in a few years:

Grandia XTreme
Suikoden III
DarkCloud 2
Shadow of Destiny
Katamari Damacy (I think the 2nd will be common)
.hack series (I don't have 4 though...)
Kessen II
Silpheed
Gungriffon Blaze
Unlimited Saga
Monster Rancher 3
Space Channel 5 Special Edition
King's Field: The Ancient City
Guilty Gear XX
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
Romance of the Three Kingdoms VIII
Mad Maestro!
Ace Combat 4
Ace Combat 5 Flight Stick Bundle
Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter
Xenosaga Ep 1 (Worth much more if they release the whole series)

Fatal Frame II
Jade Cocoon II
Gradius III & IV
Sky Gunner
La Pucelle Tactics
Disgaea (although my friend has it right now, if he loses it.... >.<)

Castle Shikigami 2
Drakengard
State of Emergency ....lol, gotcha!
Wild Arms 3
Everblue 2
The document of MGS2! (I have hopes for this one)
Star Ocean: Till the end of time
Suikoden IV
Taiko Drum Master w/ Drum
Non GH Kingdom Hearts
Gitaroo Man
Airforce Delta Strike
Stretch Panic
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Technic Beat
R-Type Final
Lifeline
Victorious Boxers
Driving Emotion Type-S

So there you have it...my part of my PS2 Collection that I think will become anywhere between semi-uncommon to wow I never see that game! What do you think?

[sisko]

Suikoden III - very common
DarkCloud 2 - common
Katamari Damacy (I think the 2nd will be common) - common
.hack series (I don't have 4 though...) - very common
Kessen II - common
Silpheed - common
Gungriffon Blaze - common
Unlimited Saga - uncommon, but it sucks hardcore....I can't imagine it going up in value
Space Channel 5 Special Edition - common
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance - extremely common
Ace Combat 4 - extremely common (GH release)
Xenosaga Ep 1 (Worth much more if they release the whole series) - extremely common (also GH)

La Pucelle Tactics - common....it didn't sell well at all, and can be found most anywhere for less than $20

Castle Shikigami 2 - common
Wild Arms 3 - common
Star Ocean: Till the end of time - very common
Suikoden IV - very common
Taiko Drum Master w/ Drum - very common (though finding the box might get difficult)
Non GH Kingdom Hearts - still very common
Technic Beat - common
R-Type Final - extremely common
Driving Emotion Type-S - extremely common

It's a pretty rare thing for games to go UP in value beyond their launch price. VERY few games go beyond that. Of those you listed, the only one I see gaining value beyond that is Disgaea. Harder to get a hold of AND fun.

[Aussie2B]

King's Field? Nah, I don't see it happening. None of the King's Field games are particularly valuable, not even the Japanese-only first King's Field. Most people just hate the series.

I actually expect the second Katamari to be less common than the first. The first sold very well on word of mouth and the low price tag. However, I think a lot of people who picked up the first will pass on the second because of the higher price tag and the fact that it's more of the same. Heck, I'm not picking up We Love Katamari just yet for that reason.

As for Star Ocean 3, it went Greatest Hits, so I don't think it'll ever be that valuable or uncommon. Which is good for me since I still don't have the US version. :P

[BeowulfXXIV]

King's Field? Nah, I don't see it happening. None of the King's Field games are particularly valuable, not even the Japanese-only first King's Field. Most people just hate the series.

I actually expect the second Katamari to be less common than the first. The first sold very well on word of mouth and the low price tag. However, I think a lot of people who picked up the first will pass on the second because of the higher price tag and the fact that it's more of the same. Heck, I'm not picking up We Love Katamari just yet for that reason.

As for Star Ocean 3, it went Greatest Hits, so I don't think it'll ever be that valuable or uncommon. Which is good for me since I still don't have the US version. :PYeah, you're right, I guess I'm just having high hopes for my games ^^() lol

[Oobgarm]

Shadow of Destiny
.hack series
Monster Rancher 3
Ace Combat 5 Flight Stick Bundle
Sky Gunner
Disgaea
Everblue 2
The document of MGS2
Gitaroo Man
R-Type Final
Victorious Boxers

I went over your list and found these games stand out as titles that might demand fair amouns of cash when PS2 collecting really gets into high gear.

Everblue 2, Sky Gunner, Monster Rancher 3, R-Type Final, Victorious Boxers and Shadow of Destiny are games that were crafted for niche audiences, and once collectors start snapping them up, they could very well be tough to find. They're all pretty common right now, but there is that possibility down the road.

The second .hack game is the only uncommon one, as far as I can tell. Might be a regional thing, but I haven't seen one of those in a long time.

Disgaea is another case of Suikoden II. Not rare but in demand.

Gitaroo Man, on the other hand is confirmed as HTF and does command some cash.

Ace Combat 5's Flight Stick bundle may garner something down the road, but only for completist collectors or someone who wants a flight stick. If the flight stick comes out on it's own, it won't be worth a lot.

Document of MGS is a toughie to gauge. It's not really a GAME, but is identified in Sony's catalogue system. I'm not too keen on how many are out there, but I'd have to lean towards the idea that completists may want it, but no one really cares about it since it's not playable.

[RedHerring]

at least one of the .hack games is bound to be rare

Maybe Under the skin or Finny the fish but I kinda doubt it

I haven't seen a lot of copies of Magic Pengel, Graffiti Kingdom, RPG maker 2 & 3 either and think they'll be sought since they're original creation tools

[zerohero]

Shadow of Destiny
.hack series
Monster Rancher 3
Ace Combat 5 Flight Stick Bundle
Sky Gunner
Disgaea
Everblue 2
The document of MGS2
Gitaroo Man
R-Type Final
Victorious Boxers

I went over your list and found these games stand out as titles that might demand fair amouns of cash when PS2 collecting really gets into high gear.

Everblue 2, Sky Gunner, Monster Rancher 3, R-Type Final, Victorious Boxers and Shadow of Destiny are games that were crafted for niche audiences, and once collectors start snapping them up, they could very well be tough to find. They're all pretty common right now, but there is that possibility down the road.

The second .hack game is the only uncommon one, as far as I can tell. Might be a regional thing, but I haven't seen one of those in a long time.

Disgaea is another case of Suikoden II. Not rare but in demand.

Gitaroo Man, on the other hand is confirmed as HTF and does command some cash.

Ace Combat 5's Flight Stick bundle may garner something down the road, but only for completist collectors or someone who wants a flight stick. If the flight stick comes out on it's own, it won't be worth a lot.

Document of MGS is a toughie to gauge. It's not really a GAME, but is identified in Sony's catalogue system. I'm not too keen on how many are out there, but I'd have to lean towards the idea that completists may want it, but no one really cares about it since it's not playable.

Well I'm glade I got my "Document of MGS2" back when it was released for only 12 bucks :)

[Niku-Sama]

i think alot of whats hard to find depends on where you live...

i see gitaroo man used here alot and the same with the gundam games, what i had a hard time finding was dot hack 3 and 4 and i acually had to travel to portland to get 4

i find the dynasty warriors...atleast the newer ones harder to find than other games, samurai warriors i managed to get for $15 a few months ago new and its still a $40 game and its also harder to find

[Austin]

Ribbit King was next to impossible for me to find for the PS2. I'll admit the gamecube version is easier to find and better, though.

Very quirky, fun game, though. I'd like to see more love for Ribbit King.

[sabre2922]

The original Guilty Gear X I think is becoming difficult to find in many (not all) areas I live in the US and I havent seen a copy ANYWHERE for over a year now.

Also what about Galerians:ASH? is it difficult to find or a low print-run game?

[norkusa]

The original Guilty Gear X I think is becoming difficult to find in many (not all) areas I live in the US and I havent seen a copy ANYWHERE for over a year now.

Yeah, I never see that one anywhere either. GG X2 is common as dirt though.

[eden]

The titles I rarely see in the UK...

Ephemeral Fantastia
Polaroid Pete (NEVER seen a copy)
International Track and Field
ICO [of course]
Dastardly & Mutley in Wacky Races
XII Stag
Pacman World 2
Dark Cloud

At one point Gitaroo Man was being sold off in a lot of places very cheap, as was Rez. Rez still doesn't seem particularly hard to find in the UK.

Out of interest. Does anyone know how well Fantavision sold? It's cheap as hell to buy but a great game.

Darren

[Oobgarm]

Just another to throw out there:

Samurai Warriors: Xtreme Legends

I haven't seen more than two copies of it since it was released.

[Mayhem]

Dual hearts is the rarest current generation game out there across xbox, ps2, and gcn that is if you look strictly at its print numbers. Dual hearts recieved about 3800 copies (i've read 3600 before but from what I have seen its closer to 3800) It's not in high demand though so its a relatively easy game to find if you look online. Though as far as print runs go thats less than that ncaa college basketball game for gamecube even (though not by much) That's the kinda print-run you'd expect to see back on the turbo grafx.

I presume you mean US version here of Dual Hearts?

If so, you'd be right about the "easy to find online" part... there's six copies currently on eBay.

As for NCAA Basketball 2k3, "official" figures put that at about 6,000 sales before Sega pulled it.

[PapaStu]

Hehehehe I love it when Oob takes my comments to note. ;)

I actually just found a copy of that when I hit up a TRU last week looking for We <3 Katamari and got it cheaper thanks to the green tage sale.

IMO rare/hard to find PS2 games
AeroElite Combat Academy
Bloody Roar 3 and 4
DDR Max 2 and DDR Extreme Pad/game Bundle kits.
Disaster Report
Disney Golf
Dogs Life
Dynasty Tactics
Dynasty Tactics 2
Dynasty Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends
Dynasty Warriors 4: Xtreme Legends (and to a lesser extent DW4:Empires)
Ephemeral Fantasia
Escape from Monkey Island
Everblue 2
Fatal Frame 1/2
Flipnic: Ultimate Pinball
G1 Jockey 3
Gallop Racers 2001/2003/2004
Gitarro Man
Gradius III/IV and giving it some time Gradius V will be hard to get too
Graffitti Kingdom
King Of Fighters 00/01
King Of Fighters: Maximum Impact
King Of Fighters 02/03
Klonoa 2
Lupin The 3rd: Treasure of the Sorcer King
Mark Of Kri (not OMG rare, but far from easy to get)
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
Metal Slug 4/5
Onimusha: Blade Warriors
R.A.D. Robot Alchamaic Drive
Rez
Samurai Warriors: Xtreme Legends
Seven Samurai 20XX
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Of Destiny
Sky Gunner
Soccer America: International Cup
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force
Technic Beat
Virtual On: Marz

[JPeeples]

I could see RPG Maker 3, Magic Pengel, and Grafitti Kingdom becoming rare down the line. I've got KoF 00/01, Lupin the Third: Legend of the Sorcerer King, Rez, Mad Maestro, FD 18, Klonoa 2, Gitaroon Man, and non-GH Kingdom Hearts. Of course, KH's casing was torn up by the security sticker, and I haven't had any luck replacing that in the two years that I've owned it. I still need to get Mr. Mosquito. I've always wanted to play it, but it's slipped through my fingers thus far.

[GetImOliver]

I've only seen Winback: Covert Ops once. Anyone know anything about this? Also, some of the special disks that could complete a series (Xenosaga EP 1 movie disk) I could see being sought after.

[roushimsx]

I've only seen Winback: Covert Ops once. Anyone know anything about this? Also, some of the special disks that could complete a series (Xenosaga EP 1 movie disk) I could see being sought after.

I recently stumbled on a pile of these selling for $10 brand new. Next week I'll take a look and see if they're still available.

[Cmosfm]

I've only seen Winback: Covert Ops once. Anyone know anything about this? Also, some of the special disks that could complete a series (Xenosaga EP 1 movie disk) I could see being sought after.

I recently stumbled on a pile of these selling for $10 brand new. Next week I'll take a look and see if they're still available.

Don't rush, I see em all over the place.

[sisko]

Again, its probably a regional thing, but I very much disagree with these:



Dogs Life
Dynasty Tactics
Dynasty Tactics 2
Dynasty Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends
Dynasty Warriors 4: Xtreme Legends (and to a lesser extent DW4:Empires)
Ephemeral Fantasia (I see this game all over the place, but it is hard to find complete and in acceptable condition)
King Of Fighters: Maximum Impact
Klonoa 2
Mark Of Kri (not OMG rare, but far from easy to get)
R.A.D. Robot Alchamaic Drive
Samurai Warriors: Xtreme Legends
Seven Samurai 20XX
Shadow Hearts (these were given away free when the second one came out)
Technic Beat
Virtual On: Marz

[Queen Of The Felines]

Just out of curiousity, has anyone else been seeing Alien Vs. Predator? I've only seen it once on ebay and never in a store around here. (Of course, it probably has popped up on ebay again since I last saw it, but I didn't even know it even existed before then.)

I see Disaster Report and Dog's Life all over the place out here. Shadow of Destiny is fairly common as well.

Possibly add Futurama and Obscure?

Kristine

[Tbowl]

Can anyone predict if Suikoden IV or Project Eden will be rare? I only find a copy of each in my local CC and Virgin

[blissfulnoise]

I've seen a few AvPs here, but only one Futurama (Northern Colorado), but both are worthy adds to the list.

Whlie it's mostly prediction based, most of PapaStu's list could be aquired here without looking very hard for $10-$30 a piece.

[Bluteg]

Project Eden is/was a $9.99 budget title that I have seen everywhere.

[ZackyH]

Ok, I was looking for a topic about this on a search on Google and came up with this site. Problem is there are a lot of games that people consider rare and me myself I'd like to start with the ones that are actually good. Out of all of the ones mentioned on this topic and the 7 page official one which ones are actually really good games? I've never even heard of a large portion of them and a lot of the reviews for them were pretty bad. I actually went through the list and narrowed it down to the ones that got around a 7 or above on Gamespot. I feel that if the games are actually worth buying they'd be the ones that will still be in demand and eventually go up in value. Could be wrong but since I'm going to get them used anyway I'm probably going to end up playing them. Can anyone tell me out of this list below which ones do you consider the cream of the crop?

The Adventures of Cookie and Cream
AirBlade
BattleStar Galactica
Beyond Good And Evil
Blood Will Tell
Bombastic
Castle Shikigami 2
Clock Tower 3
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Disaster Report (This actually received lower than 7 but the reason was mostly for graphics so I wanted to keep it)
Disgaea
Dog's Life
DownForce
Dropship: United Peace Force
Dual Hearts
Echo Night
Escape From Monkey Island
Fatal Frame I & II
Firefighter F.D. 18
gradius 5
Grand Prix Challenge
Growlanser: Generations Deluxe
Guilty Gear X and XX
Gungriffon blaze
Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
ICO
jade cocoon 2
Kya: Dark Lineage
La Pucelle Tactics
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Monster Rancher 3
Moto GP 3
MX Rider
KLONOA 2
Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color
Metropolismania
Mystic Heroes
Nightshade
Okage: Shadow King
Phantom Brave
R.A.D.: Robot Alchemic Drive
REZ
Ring of Red
Road Trip
R-Type Final
Rygar
Samurai Warriors
Sega Bass Fishing
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Of Destiny
Shin Megami Tensei
Shinobi
Skygunner
Stella deus
Suikoden 3
taiko drum master
Vampire Night
winback
Wizardry: Tales of the Forsaken Land
X-Files, The: Resist or Serve
ZOE - The 2nd Runner

[RevQuixo]

Way of the Samurai 2 seems to be a tough one to find in my experience.

[davepesc]

Ok, I was looking for a topic about this on a search on Google and came up with this site. Problem is there are a lot of games that people consider rare and me myself I'd like to start with the ones that are actually good. Out of all of the ones mentioned on this topic and the 7 page official one which ones are actually really good games? I've never even heard of a large portion of them and a lot of the reviews for them were pretty bad. I actually went through the list and narrowed it down to the ones that got around a 7 or above on Gamespot. I feel that if the games are actually worth buying they'd be the ones that will still be in demand and eventually go up in value. Could be wrong but since I'm going to get them used anyway I'm probably going to end up playing them. Can anyone tell me out of this list below which ones do you consider the cream of the crop?



First, I think very few good games become rare because if they were good, people would buy them.
Second, rarity =/= value. Check the rarest games for the PS1, they are all education software and available on ebay for $3-$5 because the only people who want them are the people wrapped up in rarity.
Third, very few video games go up in value, period. Collect for fun, not profit. It's fine to buy low and sell high, but never pay $50 for a PS2 game in hopes of making money down the line.

Finally, I offer my opinions on the games from your list that I have played:

Beyond Good And Evil (very good) 9
Dark Cloud(gets repetative) 6
Disaster Report (Love this game, actually played it 2x) 9.5
Disgaea (Best Strat RPG on the PS2) 10+
Escape From Monkey Island (I'm not big on adventure games where the solutions to the puzzles make no sense) 4
gradius 5 (awesome) 8
ICO (very good, but nowhere near rare) 8
La Pucelle Tactics (Almost as good as Disgaea) 9.5
Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color (My Eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!) blech Rock/paper/scissors systems are bad enough, but after the first round, you know exactly what the enemy will use next. 1 point for booting up and not breaking my PS2.
Phantom Brave (Keep it going, NIS) 7
REZ (very good) 8
R-Type Final (A little slow, but I love the franchise) 8.5

[Cmosfm]

Can anyone tell me out of this list below which ones do you consider the cream of the crop?

Sure - Here are the one's that I personally enjoyed:

The Adventures Of Cookie And Cream
Clock Tower 3
Dog's Life
Fatal Frame
Ico
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Klonoa 2
Okage: Shadow King
Road Trip
Rygar (Not rare at all)
Shadow Of Destiny
Taiko Drum Master
X-Files

Actually, most of those games have recieved decent ratings so they'd all be good to pick up cheap, but the ones I listed above are games that I really liked. :)

[roushimsx]

Can anyone tell me out of this list below which ones do you consider the cream of the crop?

I want to play too :(

Beyond Good And Evil - Fantastic action/adventure title. Brings back memories of Little Big Adventure, which is a really fucking good thing for a game to do. Played through it on PS2 and loved it. Played through it on Gamecube and loved it. Planning on playing through the Xbox version when I get an Xbox. Yes, it's just an excuse to play through a badass game one more time.

Bombastic - Devil Dice was fun, Bombastic is more funner. Great puzzle game, especially if you can get some friends playing with you.

Castle Shikigami 2 - Probably the most underrated US-released shmup of this generation. Horribly misunderstood and sadly quickly written off as shit by nearly everyone except people with any actual taste in decent shooters. Awesomely terrible localization and some most excellent co op opportunities. I'd pick this over the more-critically-loved-Ikaruga any day of the week.

Disgaea - Powerleveling has never been so fun. Do yourself a favor and play through without a walkthrough the first time through and then use the FAQ the next time to see all of the cool shit you missed out on. I didn't even explore the character creation system in any depth the first time through, and the second time using a walkthrough was like playing a whole new game.

Dog's Life - It's stupid, it's repetitive, and it's fun. Rescue this one from the bargin bin :(

Gradius 5 - Finally a Gradius game that doesn't suck. Again, co op opportunities are fantastic and the difficulty curve is spot on. Great music, graphics, and level designs.

Ring of Red - Underloved mech strategy game. Unique battle system that never seemed to get appreciated by anyone except the people that played it for more than two or three stages.

Road Trip - Fuck man, ChoroQ games never get a break. At least Road Trip got some pretty decent reviews. Sure, it's childish and your car initially handles like a brick of human shit going up a shit mountian, but you'll soon upgrade your ride and begin exploring the massive world, participating in a number of different races, and doing all sorts of quests. Really, really fun. "ChoroQ" (the sequel to the sequel of this game) is also great.

R-Type Final - Slower than Gradius V but a lot more variety in gameplay due to the massive amount of ships. Balance goes all over the board depending on which ship you choose, but the game is a blast.

Shin Megami Tensei - I've yet to play Digital Devil Saga, but Nocturne was a hell of a trip, as were the two sfami games before it. One of these days I'll play Persona 2, which is apparently, and I quote, "the bomb diggity". It's funny to hear people compare the combat system to Pokemon when the Megaten series pioneered it.

Winback - Wonky controls that take a little bit of getting used to and a B-movie storyline. Sound lame? Hell no, it's awesome. The N64 version got pushed aside in favor of Metal Gear Solid and the PS2 version just never got the love it deserved. Hopefully that changes with the soon-to-be-released sequel, but I doubt it. Great fun. Are you ready to be a S.C.A.T. Commando?

ZOE - The 2nd Runner - Better than the first game in every way possible. Don't watch the intro, it's just a giant fucking spoiler for the game. Sadly, the game really fizzles and starts to die down towards the end, with the second-to-last boss fight being an absolute time consuming chore, the likes of which haven't been seen since the end of Opposing Force. Still, strongly recommended gaming experience.

[ZackyH]

First, I think very few good games become rare because if they were good, people would buy them.

In a lot of cases that isn't necessarily true. Some games are just a little too odd, ahead of their time, or are for a niche market that doesn't appeal to everyone. Some games just fall between the cracks or are unfairly panned by critics. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. My local gamestop is selling a bunch of these games for some pretty low prices so I'll try picking some of them up.

[zerohero]

I'm shocked more people havent played ZOE 2nd runner. It's gonna become another Policenauts soon...

[Austin]

I'll toss out my take on what I've played.

Beyond Good And Evil - AMAZING little game... sure, it's tough to squeeze more than six hours out of it even if you do everything, but it's one of the most fun, short experiences I've had in a game in a long time. Everything's just highest quality: story, acting, gameplay, graphics. Pick this up right away if you haven't played it.

Castle Shikigami 2 - Great little shooter. Definitely overlooked and more than worth the budget price tag.

Disgaea - Best SRPG on the ps2 (I've yet to play Makai Kingdom) and my favorite since FFTactics. The character customization in this is incredibly deep, and I'm sure you could play the game through in a million different ways. (I've played through three times and haven't even scraped the surface of the character building.)

Escape From Monkey Island - The weakest of the Monkey Island games. Use your computer and play the first three instead, they're infinitely better.

Fatal Frame I & II - Scary, scary games, in the japanese horror type of way. I actually liked the second more than the first. Definitely underrated.

Growlanser: Generations Deluxe - Two sizable SRPGs in one package. Not really of the same level of quality as Disgaea or La Pucelle, but when you've played through those already it's a good tactics RPG.

ICO - Same as Beyond Good and Evil. Tragically short, but a hell of a good ride while it lasts.

La Pucelle Tactics - Another great SRPG. Disgaea is a tad bit classier, however.

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 - Actually prefer this on the dreamcast, but maybe because that system's worked it's way into my "fighter console" spot.

Phantom Brave - See La Pucelle.

REZ - In my top ten games of all time, this game is a trip. You have to experience it... no descriptions I've read have been able to do it justice.

Stella deus - If you've run out of Nippon Ichi SRPGs, this one will do. Fine enough, but not even in the same league as other games in the genre already on the PS2.

[Bromhidrosis]

Dual hearts is the rarest current generation game out there across xbox, ps2, and gcn that is if you look strictly at its print numbers. Dual hearts recieved about 3800 copies (i've read 3600 before but from what I have seen its closer to 3800) It's not in high demand though so its a relatively easy game to find if you look online. Though as far as print runs go thats less than that ncaa college basketball game for gamecube even (though not by much) That's the kinda print-run you'd expect to see back on the turbo grafx.

Already been mentioned that the Sega basketball game sold about 6,000 copies. I know there's about five GC games that sold worse, but since the NPD had my source site closed for unlawfully publishing NPD data, the only one I remember for sure was Space Raiders. It sold just under 1,500 copies. I've also come to the conclusion that there may be more rental copies than storebought copies. I've seen three in the wild (one new, two used.) Both used copies were old rental copies.

Here's the website, for whatever it's worth. All you'll get now is a 404 not found error:
http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~hokora/english/index.html


Gradius 5 - Finally a Gradius game that doesn't suck.

Life Force? Gradius III SNES? Gradius Galaxies?

[roushimsx]

Life Force? Gradius III SNES? Gradius Galaxies?

Sucks hard, sucks strong, and sucks (in that order).

The Salamander/Life Force games were the worst imo and the Parodius games were the best (though still not that great).

now Thunder Cross....there's a good game :)

[Bluteg]

Gradius III sucks strong? I hope you are referencing a long winded prosititute. :/

[qbertandernie]

didnt king of route 66 and puyo pop fever sell really bad on GC?

sorry its off topic, im just responding to someone above.