Seller charging me $125 for shipping!!!

[kevin_psx]

$125 for 20 ps1 games.

Asked for a 50% rebate - $62.50. He refused. His defense - "Auction States : I don’t combine shipping, for every 5 games you win, I include a FREE game."

Okay. I get 24 games. $125 is still extra-high for shipping. Am I wrong to ask for 50% rebate? Shall I just suck it up?




These games better mint. They were advertised as mint. Else he'll get 1 positive - for good service - and 19 negatives for false advertising.

[jajaja]

I would never pay $125 for shipping for 20 games. This might get you 20 negatives tho @_@

[skaar]

He's technically right, but that still doesn't make him ethically right. I've found the same problem ordering NES games in bulk - but I've usually been able to negotiate some discount. The way eBay's going these days it seems that people would rather sell at 99 cents and charge you $30 shipping (since they don't pay ebay fees on shipping charges) - it's a sneaky way to make money and I believe there's something about it in the ebay rules...

[anagrama]

$125 for 20 games? You're a fucking loon if you pay that.

[peeingas]

If the auction stated it you agreed to it by bidding

[Darth Sensei]

You were wrong for not checking into that, but you're also sub-moronic if you pay that.

[jajaja]

Check this:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/result_2_5_10.html

I would contact Ebay about it. $125 for 20 PSX games is crazy, even if it said so in the auction.

[johno590]

How much did you end up paying for the games too? That's ludacris.

I don't combine shipping either, but if someone bought that many games from me, I would reduce the shipping... c'mon 125 dollars for 24 games is outrageous.

I would contact eBay and see what they can do.

[anagrama]

I don't combine shipping either

Why not?
If someone wins two games from you, do you send them both in the same package?

[scooby105]

if you actually decide to pay it, pay for all auctions separately through paypal. do NOT use the auction payment combining thing. then, make sure every separate auction is shipped in a separate box. if its not, claim that you never received the item and file a chargeback through paypal.

[kevin_psx]

pay for all auctions separately through paypal. then, make sure every separate auction is shipped in a separate box. if its not, claim that you never received the item and file a chargeback through paypal.

Isn't that stealing?

Most games were a penny. The total adds up to $50 + $125 ship. What to say? The guy has good games & I got carried away.

[fishsandwich]

if you actually decide to pay it, pay for all auctions separately through paypal. do NOT use the auction payment combining thing. then, make sure every separate auction is shipped in a separate box. if its not, claim that you never received the item and file a chargeback through paypal.

I agree with this, dude. The guy is being a serious ass, no matter how cheap you got the games for. However, if the guy said he doesn't combine shipping (in the auction) then you're kind of stuck, but there is no reason to make it easy on him. Pay separately and insist that each game be shipped on its own. Maybe he'll learn (doubtful, but hope springs eternal or something like that.)

[fishsandwich]

whoops. double post.

[Jumpman Jr.]

I don't combine shipping either

Why not?
If someone wins two games from you, do you send them both in the same package?

As soon as I read that, I couldn't believe it.
As anagrama said... Why the hell not? Isn't it easier to combine them? Not combining shipping is a great way for buyers to NOT buy multiple items that you are selling.
Whatever, to each is own I guess.
:shameful:

[johno590]

Well, when I was selling shirts yes, I would put them both in the same package, because usually the shirts sold for like 99 cents, and I would usually pay at least 1 dollar a piece if not more than that for a shirt, it just wasn't worth it to combine the shipping because I was making hardly ANY money doing that.

That is why I'm not selling shirts anymore.

I just recently started selling games on ebay so I might end up changing the combining shipping...

If I was selling games every day and a mass quanity, but for what little I sell, it really isn't worth it.

[anagrama]

But you're not meant to be making money on the postage. The postage charge, believe it or not, is supposed to be the cost of postage & packaging (plus possibly a small handling charge). To do otherwise is ripping off your buyers.
I'd personally refuse to buy from anyone who wasn't willing to combine postage for multiple wins.

[Mayhem]

Personally if he's going to be THAT anal about it, I'd ask him to ship every single game in a separate package, seeing as you are essentially paying separate shipping for each one.

Maybe that'll make him change his mind in the future :P

[Lemmy Kilmister]

Did you tell him to blow goats yet?

[Jed]

if you actually decide to pay it, pay for all auctions separately through paypal. do NOT use the auction payment combining thing. then, make sure every separate auction is shipped in a separate box. if its not, claim that you never received the item and file a chargeback through paypal.

I agree with this, dude. The guy is being a serious ass, no matter how cheap you got the games for. However, if the guy said he doesn't combine shipping (in the auction) then you're kind of stuck, but there is no reason to make it easy on him. Pay separately and insist that each game be shipped on its own. Maybe he'll learn (doubtful, but hope springs eternal or something like that.)

I second the agreement. Make 20 separate payments, and if you only get one box, file a claim for the 19 more expensive ones. He's trying to dick you over, and you need to fight fire with fire.

[esquire]

if you actually decide to pay it, pay for all auctions separately through paypal. do NOT use the auction payment combining thing. then, make sure every separate auction is shipped in a separate box. if its not, claim that you never received the item and file a chargeback through paypal.

I agree with this, dude. The guy is being a serious ass, no matter how cheap you got the games for. However, if the guy said he doesn't combine shipping (in the auction) then you're kind of stuck, but there is no reason to make it easy on him. Pay separately and insist that each game be shipped on its own. Maybe he'll learn (doubtful, but hope springs eternal or something like that.)

Moreover, if he does then ship them in one package, you'll have a valid claim for excessive shipping x 24, whereas if he ships them all separate, at least you'll be keeping him honest.

[jajaja]

Instead of just doing 20 diffrent payments tell him that you will do it instead and see what he replies.

[Griking]

But you're not meant to be making money on the postage. The postage charge, believe it or not, is supposed to be the cost of postage & packaging (plus possibly a small handling charge). To do otherwise is ripping off your buyers.
I'd personally refuse to buy from anyone who wasn't willing to combine postage for multiple wins.

While I agree that this would be a nice policy, its just not the way it is with many companies. Very little companies pass on the actual shipping costs to their customers. Ever been a member of a CD club like Columbia or BMG? Their CD prices are low because they make their money off of their shipping charges.

I think that many people complain about shipping charges on eBay because when they purchase something there they picture getting their product from an individual who's selling left over tag sale items or has a booth at a flea market on weekends. They don't picture an actual brick and mortar company with employees and electric bills and expenses. This opinion makes people believe that they have the right to negotiate things like shipping after the auction is over which unfortunately just isn't the case.

Unfortunately I don't see a painless solution in this case. If the seller made it clear in his auction description that he doesn't combine shipping then those are his terms and you agreed to them by bidding on his auctions. You're either going to pay his shipping fee or you'll probably get a whole shitload of negatives. FYI, non paying bidder complaints for 10-20 separate auctions will get your eBay account suspended.

As far as filing the PayPal chargeback if he ships the games all in one box; first of all keep in mind that as ethically wrong as it is, there isn't an eBay policy requiring combined shipping. Now, because he may not be able to prove that all items were shipped together you may get some money back by filing the chargeback with PayPal but by doing this I'd consider you more unethical then the seller. Again, he may have been an ass for not offering the combined shipping but that's his policy to make, not yours. Again, this is entirely the buyer's fault for not reading the auction description and his terms before bidding.

Oh and as always, please post a link to his auctions. I'd like to see how clear his terms were.

[MASTERWEEDO]

$175 for 24 ps1 games, well all i can say is that i include the shipping in my purchase price.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

Well, I shipped 30 PSone games overseas for only $55 once.

You're getting screwed if you're paying $125 shipping. Biiiiiiiiig time.

[Necrosaro420]

I would never pay $125 for shipping for 20 games. This might get you 20 negatives tho @_@

Yeah, I would NOT pay it. Might get you 20 negatives...but then ya know what you do? you leave him 20 negatives, then you ask them both to be mutually withdrawn =P He will do it, im sure cuz he wont want 20 negs.

[gepeto]

5.00 a game not bad unless they are games like wcw nitro, perfect weapon, bubsy 3d,

I usually pay 5.00 for a psx game at the pawn shop. I guess you were expecting at least negotiation due to your bulk buying. Take the loss as lesson learned. I know I have had my share of auction mistakes I bought a virtual boy buy it now for 25.00 only to find out it had no stand.

[Griking]

I would never pay $125 for shipping for 20 games. This might get you 20 negatives tho @_@

Yeah, I would NOT pay it. Might get you 20 negatives...but then ya know what you do? you leave him 20 negatives, then you ask them both to be mutually withdrawn =P He will do it, im sure cuz he wont want 20 negs.

Yeah, but then there's that little issue of getting your eBay account suspended if he ever decided to file 20 non paying bidder complaints against you for 20 different auctions.

[kevin_psx]

Oh I'll pay. But won't be happy about it. Hence the 1 positive and 19 negative negs.

$175 for 24 ps1 games, well all i can say is that i include the shipping in my purchase price.

Hope the "free games" are not just demo discs. Noticed - too late - this seller tends to call demos = games. TITLE: "125 games!" ACTUAL = "You get final fantasy, 25 sports titles from the 90s, and 100 demo discs."

Ugh.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

:bad-words:

[Dangerboy]

Without even looking at the auction, I'm pretty sure it's ebay seller sethpackard you're talking about.

Be aware that besides the insane shipping charge, he uses other people's pictures. What you see is NOT what you get.

Buyer beware.

Jason

[NESaholic]

I never just bid without knowing how much i have to pay for shipping.Man this sucks hardcore since rules say you have to pay,contact eBay and explain what happened,i hope they chose your side but keep in mind that they dont have to nor will since sellers bring them alot of cash everyday.Best of luck man!

[Darth Sensei]

Oh I'll pay. But won't be happy about it. Hence the 1 positive and 19 negative negs.

$175 for 24 ps1 games, well all i can say is that i include the shipping in my purchase price.

Hope the "free games" are not just demo discs. Noticed - too late - this seller tends to call demos = games. TITLE: "125 games!" ACTUAL = "You get final fantasy, 25 sports titles from the 90s, and 100 demo discs."

Ugh.

Dude, if you do that you'll just get negged in return. why give him a positive at all?

Also, I believe (and someone more knowledgable could verify) that it requires 3 different ebayers to give you a NPB thing to get you suspended.

[PS1Expert]

Do you have a link to the seller? Anyhow, my two cents, those 99 cent auctions are not worth it because they almost all state that they don't combine shipping. I avoid 99 cent auctions because of that. You will have to pay the $125. And I bet that when you get the games they will be used and scratched. (not mint)

[captain nintendo]

Wait until the last hour of the last day to leave the negative feedback so he doesnt have time to retaliate :evil:


And damn !!!!! I think you cant flat rate ship all of those psx games in a big priority mail box for under 10 bucks ? (in th U.S.)

[Mr.Faxanadu]

Just tell him that paying 125 shipping is out of your means and that you are having ebay look into it. I find as soon as you tell a seller that you will get ebay involved thigs get fixed up pretty fast.

Oh and you should always check to see if the seller allows for combined shipping. TIP - I have an html page that has all my most common questions on it. So I just copy and paste them. Fast and Simple!!

Good Luck :)

[video_game_addict]

Wait until the last hour of the last day to leave the negative feedback so he doesnt have time to retaliate :evil:


And damn !!!!! I think you cant flat rate ship all of those psx games in a big priority mail box for under 10 bucks ? (in th U.S.)

There is no 90 day time limit as some people tend to think and spread false rumors about on these boards. There is no safe time to file negative feedback.

And you are correct, a flate rate priority box should fit a lot that size no problem for $7.70

It's the buyer's own fault for bidding and assuming the seller would combine shipping. There is no guarantee that will happen, even if the shipping total far exceeds the combined auction's total. The fact that each individual auction has a reasonable shipping price, will protect the seller in any claim against ebay for FVF circumvention.

The buyer should pay, and probably should not leave any feedback at all, unless he doesn't care about possible retaliation feedback.

[PS1Expert]

Wait until the last hour of the last day to leave the negative feedback so he doesnt have time to retaliate :evil:


And damn !!!!! I think you cant flat rate ship all of those psx games in a big priority mail box for under 10 bucks ? (in th U.S.)

There is no 90 day time limit as some people tend to think and spread false rumors about on these boards. There is no safe time to file negative feedback.

And you are correct, a flate rate priority box should fit a lot that size no problem for $7.70

It's the buyer's own fault for bidding and assuming the seller would combine shipping. There is no guarantee that will happen, even if the shipping total far exceeds the combined auction's total. The fact that each individual auction has a reasonable shipping price, will protect the seller in any claim against ebay for FVF circumvention.

The buyer should pay, and probably should not leave any feedback at all, unless he doesn't care about possible retaliation feedback.

I agree with videogame_addict. However, I assumed that after 90 days you can't leave feedback. Thus, why couldn't he leave negative feedback on day 89 and hope the seller doesn't notice in time? Anyhow, I don't give out negative feedback unless it's blatant. If I didn't read the auction correctly or I assumed some things, then I either don't leave feedback or I give nuetral (which I only did once). In this case, the buyer should pay up, not leave feedback, and just go on. He now knows better about these auctions. I always ask the sellers if they combine auctions which is a good habit.

[SoulBlazer]

How much do you care about the EBay account? I agree that I believe it takes three DIFFERENT EBay ID's to get suspended, but if this happened to me, I'd just tell the seller to 'forget it' and not pay....I have less then 100 feedback on my EBay account in six years cause I hardly use it, and I'd just make another one.

Best thing to do -- contact the seller and make threats about getting EBay and local authorities involved. If that fails, insist that he sent each item out in a seperate package so that he's being forced to honor his 'don't combine shipping' claim. If he does'nt do that then you can report to EBay. Sneaky, but the guy deserves it.

And if the pics DON'T match the items you get, then you have another reason you can file a complaint with EBay and PayPal. :)

Also, use PayPal through a credit card so that you have extra protection and can do a chargeback or something if something happens.

How about a link to the auction so we can see for ourselves?

[Roi]

Where do you live and where does he live ?!

[PS1Expert]

How about a link to the auction so we can see for ourselves?

I second that. Where's the link?

[fishsandwich]

Wait until the last hour of the last day to leave the negative feedback so he doesnt have time to retaliate :evil:


And damn !!!!! I think you cant flat rate ship all of those psx games in a big priority mail box for under 10 bucks ? (in th U.S.)

There is no 90 day time limit as some people tend to think and spread false rumors about on these boards. There is no safe time to file negative feedback.

Who's spreading false rumors? It's a FACT you can leave feedback for up to 90 days and then you can't after that. I've done it. Time it right and you can stick someone with a negative and they can't get you back.

[video_game_addict]

Wait until the last hour of the last day to leave the negative feedback so he doesnt have time to retaliate :evil:


And damn !!!!! I think you cant flat rate ship all of those psx games in a big priority mail box for under 10 bucks ? (in th U.S.)

There is no 90 day time limit as some people tend to think and spread false rumors about on these boards. There is no safe time to file negative feedback.

Who's spreading false rumors? It's a FACT you can leave feedback for up to 90 days and then you can't after that. I've done it. Time it right and you can stick someone with a negative and they can't get you back.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. Ebay states that feedback can be left for at least 90 days. It doesn't mean that it ends on some midnight hour after exactly 90 days has past. People have thought this, but it's been proven wrong. I know some users here have mentioned & linked to feedback that was posted 120 days after the end of the auction. I believe it will work for as long as the auction stays in the database. Which as clickable links in your history is only around 90 days, but as long as you can recall the item number & bidder/seller ids, it can be posted well after. Most auctions stay in the database for close to 6 months. I know mine are just falling off from May, but most of June is still searchable. So I can still go back and leave feedback for auctions well over the 90 days.

[badinsults]

You know, I think it is extremely cowardly to back out of sale. You won the auction, therefore you must agree to the terms of the auction, or be held in fault. If it states that he doesn't combine shipping, then it is 100% your fault. You should have asked the seller explicitly before bidding if he would wave this policy.


That being said, if he does indeed ship everything in the same package, then you have a valid complaint, and he has violated the terms of his auction, and you can legitamitely claim foul.

[jajaja]

I know some users here have mentioned & linked to feedback that was posted 120 days after the end of the auction. I believe it will work for as long as the auction stays in the database.

Thank you! I was about to do 90 day "trick", but missed it with 1 day. Now its been like 95 days and I manualy wrote in the sellers ID and auction number. Guess what, I did leave feedback ;)

[Archenemy]

Just for the Records:

Last time I bought from japangamestock, I got like 3 Saturns, 2 PS, 1 NeoGeo CD, 1 NeoGeo AES and like 35 Saturn games for $180, EMS from Japan to my doorstep in Mexico... and it was indeed the box of a mini bar :roll:

[Insaneclown]

Thats fucked up!!! There is no way...it would cost that to ship 20 PSX games. LOL

I would never pay that...NEVER. The seller is a retard.

[number6]

Like someone earlier said pay for each auction indivdually and if the seller combines all of the auction items in one package then make a claim with ebay/paypal that you never received the other 19 packages. Since he won't compromise I don't see why you have to either. You are paying to have all of the items sent to you in seperate packages.

[Griking]

Two wrongs don't make a right. So when he lies to PayPal to get his money back would you then have him send the games back to the seller since he got his money back or are you suggesting that he robs him?

[SoulBlazer]

How is it lying?

The seller said that he does'nt combine shipping. Hence, everything is going to get mailed in SEPERATE packages, according to his OWN WORDS. I assume that means one game each box....someone out there care to disagree with me on that?

So if he got 25 games, he should get 25 packages.

Now, if he only gets ONE packaage, he's perfectly in his right to claim to both EBay and PayPal that he never GOT 25 packages -- that he only got one! And he would be right!

Nowhere does it say how many games would be in each package.....even EBay could look at the 'don't combine shipping' line and say 'one game for each package', then.

So, the seller then gets a huge refund for the 'missing' packages, and he keeps the one that had the games, for a fair price. :D

I have NO problem doing that if it happened to me, since the seller wants to be a ass, I'll be one right back.

[number6]

Two wrongs don't make a right. So when he lies to PayPal to get his money back would you then have him send the games back to the seller since he got his money back or are you suggesting that he robs him?

Like Soulbalzer said. It really is a case of semantics and the seller is the one who initiated this madness in the first place. An eye for an eye says I!

[Princess-Isabela]

unfortunately buyer didn't read all informations regarding his shipping tactics (they are totally unfair, but he's not the only one who's trying to get some extra money for nothing out of shipping costs), so I guess you're stuck and you should pay for this ridiculous shipping, because thats what you agreed by bidding on his auctions.

you've gained experience 8-)
and thats priceless ^_~

[johno590]

So what are you going to do? Pay him or not?

[Griking]

How is it lying?

If the buyer receives one box with 20 games in it and he claims he only received one game then that's a lie. I don't know how you can call it anything else.

Receiving all 20 games and then claiming that you only received one of them in order to get your money back for the other 19 is considered mail fraud (http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m001.htm) which could land a person in jail. Great advice.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

Receiving all 20 games and then claiming that you only received one of them in order to get your money back for the other 19 is considered mail fraud which could land a person in jail. Great advice.

Someone pulled this lame ass stunt on me awhile ago. What the idiot didn't realized is that I used UPS, and had the tracking number, which I didn't give him. It said it was received by the person, and signed for at their site.

I emailed him back with the tracking number and told him, jail is not the place you want to go to my friend.

That was the last time I heard from him again. I owned that dumbass bitch. :D

[number6]

It's also a lie that it cost $125 to ship one package. Seller is required to ship all the items in seperate packages not just one if the seller does not combine shipping. As long as the seller does what he is supposed to, ship all the items seperate, then their is no problem on either end. Maybe the seller needs to learn an important lesson as well. The seller can't admit he shipped them all in one package to ebay because they will be able to verify that the seller charged shipping seperately for each item.

[number6]

Receiving all 20 games and then claiming that you only received one of them in order to get your money back for the other 19 is considered mail fraud which could land a person in jail. Great advice.

Someone pulled this lame ass stunt on me awhile ago. What the idiot didn't realized is that I used UPS, and had the tracking number, which I didn't give him. It said it was received by the person, and signed for at their site.

I emailed him back with the tracking number and told him, jail is not the place you want to go to my friend.

That was the last time I heard from him again. I owned that dumbass bitch. :D

I am guessing you offered a combined shipping option and did not make the buyer pay shipping for each item in the package? This seller is trying to do the fee avoidance thing and I think Ebay will not be very happy when they find out.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

I don't think Ebay will give a damn.

[Nes]

I think the seller kind of got screwed in all this. He never intended for one person to win 20 of his items and then try to combine shipping. The only way he was going to make money on the auctions was for 20 different people to win and each pay some rather high shipping to make up for the low cost of the games.

[Griking]

It's also a lie that it cost $125 to ship one package. Seller is required to ship all the items in seperate packages not just one if the seller does not combine shipping.

As long as the seller does what he is supposed to, ship all the items seperate, then their is no problem on either end. Maybe the seller needs to learn an important lesson as well. The seller can't admit he shipped them all in one package to ebay because they will be able to verify that the seller charged shipping seperately for each item.

Again, any reasonable person would ship them all together with a reasonable shipping fee but again, as far as I know eBay doesn't have a rule stating that he can't charge you a shipping fee for each auction individually and then ship them all together. If I'm wrong then please post a link to it for me.

[johno590]

I think the seller kind of got screwed in all this. He never intended for one person to win 20 of his items and then try to combine shipping. The only way he was going to make money on the auctions was for 20 different people to win and each pay some rather high shipping to make up for the low cost of the games.

I agree with you. That's the reason he sells them so cheap. It's not his fault you bought them all from him. Sorry but that's the way people make money on ebay, with higher shipping costs.

[SoulBlazer]

Notice I said how you never CLAIM that you only got ONE game. You just claim you never got the other 19 (or whatever) packages. When asked what was susposed to be in the packages, just say you don't know....you thought each one was susposed to have a game but you're not totlaly sure, which is also correct. As I said, yes, it may be a little misleading, but it's not fraud and it's being a ass right back to the seller.

If this happened to me, though, I don't think I would do that. I'm just saying the buyer COULD if he decided to.

And what about the rule EBay has saying the seller must charge a 'resonable' shipping fee? Even assuming that you take the shipping for each game and add them up, I don't see it being anymore then $50 by Medial Mail, $2 for each game. I'd send EBay a e-mail and see -- maybe -- if you get a response.

Personaly, if it was me, I'd tell the buyer "Look, you did'nt expect me to win all of these items, did you? I'll pay $25 for shipping, which is more then fair." If he still won't deal I'd tell him to forget it and take the negative. My EBay profile is not that important to me.

[number6]

It's also a lie that it cost $125 to ship one package. Seller is required to ship all the items in seperate packages not just one if the seller does not combine shipping.

As long as the seller does what he is supposed to, ship all the items seperate, then their is no problem on either end. Maybe the seller needs to learn an important lesson as well. The seller can't admit he shipped them all in one package to ebay because they will be able to verify that the seller charged shipping seperately for each item.

Again, any reasonable person would ship them all together with a reasonable shipping fee but again, as far as I know eBay doesn't have a rule stating that he can't charge you a shipping fee for each auction individually and then ship them all together. If I'm wrong then please post a link to it for me.

I think you could argue that $125 is excessive for shipping 20+ CD's in one box. I would think you could even argue that this is fee avoidance and Ebay would probably side with the buyer in the case where the buyer said they never received all the items they won and demand that the seller provide proof that all the items were shipped seperately. Common sense says that if you combine all the items in one package you should save on shipping. Like I said, if the seller ships all the items seperately there is no problem. Let's wait and see what happens. Hopefully the seller will do the right thing and ship everything seperately.

[gepeto]

Notice I said how you never CLAIM that you only got ONE game. You just claim you never got the other 19 (or whatever) packages. When asked what was susposed to be in the packages, just say you don't know....you thought each one was susposed to have a game but you're not totlaly sure, which is also correct. As I said, yes, it may be a little misleading, but it's not fraud and it's being a ass right back to the seller.

If this happened to me, though, I don't think I would do that. I'm just saying the buyer COULD if he decided to.

And what about the rule EBay has saying the seller must charge a 'resonable' shipping fee? Even assuming that you take the shipping for each game and add them up, I don't see it being anymore then $50 by Medial Mail, $2 for each game. I'd send EBay a e-mail and see -- maybe -- if you get a response.

Personaly, if it was me, I'd tell the buyer "Look, you did'nt expect me to win all of these items, did you? I'll pay $25 for shipping, which is more then fair." If he still won't deal I'd tell him to forget it and take the negative. My EBay profile is not that important to me.

Ebay is the king of loopholes. I think the key to this is handling what is handling? what is it worth? How do you gage true handling? Ebay will dismiss your claim no matter how the games arrive.. If a complaint is filed and ebay calls him on it he will say the fee is in the handling. Ebay will turn a blind eye and you will go into the pile where my 4 complaints are.

[unwinddesign]

Receiving all 20 games and then claiming that you only received one of them in order to get your money back for the other 19 is considered mail fraud which could land a person in jail. Great advice.

Someone pulled this lame ass stunt on me awhile ago. What the idiot didn't realized is that I used UPS, and had the tracking number, which I didn't give him. It said it was received by the person, and signed for at their site.

I emailed him back with the tracking number and told him, jail is not the place you want to go to my friend.

That was the last time I heard from him again. I owned that dumbass bitch. :D

It's quite annoying to have people claim they don't get items, and then I check the delivery confirmation number and they received it over a week ago. After I send them that tidbit, I don't get a response. It's why I get delivery confirmation on all the packages.

On topic, pay for the auctions, but pay for each one seperately, and force him to send twenty some odd packages seperately. He'll get hit with Paypal's fees, and he'll have to ship each one in a seperate bubble mailer etc., just like you paid for. That's fair for everyone involved, since that's what you're essentially paying for.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

People who lie about such shit has balls. Or are kids who have no fucking clue what they're getting themselves into if they lie.

[peeingas]

I don't think Ebay will give a damn.
You are definately right about that.

[kevin_psx]

So if he got 25 games, he should get 25 packages. Now, if he only gets ONE packaage, he's perfectly in his right to claim to both EBay and PayPal that he never GOT 25 packages -- that he only got one! And he would be right!

So, the seller then gets a huge refund for the 'missing' packages, and he keeps the one that had the games, for a fair price. :D I have NO problem doing that if it happened to me, since the seller wants to be a ass, I'll be one right back.
In theory that's 20 games for 1 game = $6.25 ship + $0.01 auction price. WOW he'd be pissed.

Ouch!

I'm paying tomorrow. I have to bundle 5 games to get the 6th free one - then I'll inspect each game carefully. If there's even one scratch on these "mint" games he'll get negged for false advertising.

[chaoticjelly]

If you won the auctions for 1 cent each, and the seller is charging THAT much shipping, then that definitly is against eBay rules, whether he declared it or not...

If he is setting the auctions off at 1 cent, and shipping is stated for each game and not combined, then he's really counting on someone buying multiple games and having to pay outrageous shipping..

I believe its called "fee avoidance" if he had his shipping at a more reasonable level or with more reasonable terms, people would bid a lot more than a cent a game, and therefore his FVF's (Final Value Fees) on each auction would be a *lot* more, I think youll find that the FVF on a 1 cent auction is next to nothing.

Sure, ebay still get the listing and paypal fees, but I think you'll find that they care about this somewhat... more than if you email them saying "I got scammed for a notebook"

Because ladies and gents, "fee avoidance" actually loses them money !!! So they care a lot, because thats all eBay care about!!!!!!! as you may know, they squeeze more and more every year :roll:

Basically, I think you shouldnt pay for the auction, report the seller to ebay, then perhaps telephone them and explain politely and rationally why you cant possibly pay so much, maybe quiz them about how the items are shipped?

You can explain to them that they can cancel all of the auctions by going to the disputes part of "my ebay" and filing that you both mutually agreed to cancel the transaction, that way you dont get any strikes, and they get their FVF back.. and I'll put it this way... if it sold for 1 cent, it will of cost very little to list and in FVF fees.... unless they used extra features.

Then learn your lesson and read the description lol 8-)

[kevin_psx]

He filed 10 non-paying bidder complaints.

Now I'm pissed.

Emailed him.

No reply.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

Yikes. Hit him back.

[shaggy]

I have to say bite the bullet and pay the money. Yea, the guy is being an ass by not combining shipping but if he stated it in his auction than you knew about it beforehand and should have been wise not to bid. You are in a binding contract now. The guy is out to make money and shipping is where he makes his. Use this as a life lesson and learn from it. And where is the link to this guy so he don't buy from him on Ebay???

[Griking]

He filed 10 non-paying bidder complaints.

Now I'm pissed.

Emailed him.

No reply.


You bought 10 of his games knowing full well what his conditions were beforehand and now after you refused to pay him YOUR getting angry because he filed a complaint against you? :?

Don't be angry at him for setting those terms, be angry at yourself for agreeing to them.

Fulfill your obligations and write it off as an expensive learning experience.

[Memnon]

Lol, there's no way I would throw my hard-earned money away like that on imagnary shipping charges, I'm too poor. If he left me 20 negatives, I would just create another ebay account, being that I only have 8 feedbacks anyway. At least I'd still have all that money in my pocket for games, rather than arbitrary shipping fees.

[kevin_psx]

You bought 10 of his games knowing full well what his conditions were beforehand and now after you refused to pay him
Refused to pay? That never happened. Paying the guy right now.




$125 for 20 games is excessive. It only costs $15. Why don't you give 50% discount on ship? Thank you.The shipping and handling fee includes the postal service fee, the mailer, the labeling, and the time it takes me to get it all done. Just remember the shipping cost as you enter in your max bid. Thanks alot, and good luck! SethThen I expect (a) Each game mailed separately
or (b) 20 bubble envelopes. If you're going to charge me $125 I want either 20 boxes or 20 envelopes.

I will file an excessive ship charge after I get the games. This is bullshit. Willing to pay this guy $62 in shipping - still high but I'm willing - and he rejects it. Grrr.

[Joohan]

Please post his sellings here. I want to buy some stuff from him in Europe. Say 3 things and pay 3 times the extra costs. I f I get one package I leave Ebay / Paypal a notice of non-delivering, and he can't give receipts for the other 2 packages!
Scam scammers hard!