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lendelin
03-14-2008, 02:07 AM
When Xenosaga 3 came out I picked it up at multiple stores so I could get the telos artbook plus the BB lenticular card cover. I don't have a gamecrazy near me so I couldn't get the poster however. If you need a picture of the BB Lenticular cover let me know; I can provide that for you.

GREAT! Thanks so much!! You could post a pic in this thread. If you can't, let me know and I'll give you my email address in a pm.

lendelin
03-14-2008, 06:55 PM
For those of you who are interested in downloading the pics for the deluxe sets: I added and changed some of the pics.

bcks007
03-15-2008, 03:50 AM
I finally found a pic and auction for it. Its out of my price range at the moment, so snatch it up. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xenosaga-Episode-III-PS2-New-Rare-Horogram-Cover_W0QQitemZ220208360177QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6205 3QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

jupitersj
03-15-2008, 01:50 PM
I'll post in and out front and back pics later tonight or tomorrow as I have to head to work in a few.. sorry i didn't earlier i forgot XD

lendelin
03-15-2008, 02:36 PM
I finally found a pic and auction for it. Its out of my price range at the moment, so snatch it up. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xenosaga-Episode-III-PS2-New-Rare-Horogram-Cover_W0QQitemZ220208360177QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6205 3QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Thanks again for the link! With these pics and now three different sources it is safe to put the game in the list of regular cases with extra content.

Added:

16) Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra. Available in a standard version and in an edition with a lenticular cover exclusively distributed by the retailer Best Buy. The lenticular cover is a removable insert on top of the regular cover and has the character T-Elos pictured.

I'm sure I will go after it for $99. It's a bargain. :)

The prices for other games this guy has listed are borderline criminal. That's not just chuzpe anymore. $99 for GRAN TURISMO 4??? $99 for Star Ocean and Digital Devil Saga 2???...and Final Fantasy X-2 still in bargain bins for $10 is certainly a deal for $50. Holy schmoly!

lendelin
03-15-2008, 02:38 PM
I'll post in and out front and back pics later tonight or tomorrow as I have to head to work in a few.. sorry i didn't earlier i forgot XD

Thanks, not necessary anymore for verification, BUT it would be great to have good quality pics of the cover!

bcks007
03-17-2008, 02:55 AM
lendelin did you buy that copy on ebay? I would have gladly bought it if i had $100 to spend.

oremites
03-17-2008, 08:41 PM
Great list. I know making a public RPG list is difficult because everyone has a slightly different definition of what an RPG is, but this is the best list I've seen.

If you're including Warriors of Might and Magic in the borderline category (I would include it with the RPG's, but I understand why I'm in the minority on this one), you should probably include Shifters as well. It's a sequel of sorts to Warriors, and has basically the same gameplay.

Daria
03-17-2008, 09:09 PM
Yet another new RPG:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281838

http://www.legendra.com/media/covers/play2/chaos_wars_japon.jpg

carlcarlson
03-17-2008, 10:01 PM
hmm... another srpg? It seems those really increased in popularity in the ps2 era.

lendelin
03-17-2008, 10:11 PM
lendelin did you buy that copy on ebay? I would have gladly bought it if i had $100 to spend.

Are you kidding me? :) This price is absolutely wacko.

Let's put it diplomatically: I wouldn't pay $100 for Suikoden II not to mention Xenosaga 3 with a card on top of the cover. I'm a cheapskate, I have to be because I want too many games.

I'm patient, one day I'll get the little thing for sure for MUCH less!! :)

lendelin
03-17-2008, 10:13 PM
hmm... another srpg? It seems those really increased in popularity in the ps2 era.

With the success of Disgaea and Phantom Brave we have so many SRPGs for the PS2 like there is on no other console. I think they are around 15.

lendelin
03-17-2008, 10:17 PM
Yet another new RPG:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281838

http://www.legendra.com/media/covers/play2/chaos_wars_japon.jpg

Seems indeed it will get a release. Strange is that the publisher O3Entertainment hasn't the game mentioned on its website. LINK (http://www.o3ent.com/)

Baroque got pushed back awhile ago to April.

lendelin
03-17-2008, 10:37 PM
Great list. I know making a public RPG list is difficult because everyone has a slightly different definition of what an RPG is, but this is the best list I've seen.

Thanks, glad you find it helpful. We tried to be as inclusionary as possible.

If you are interested in a discussion about RPGs:

THIS (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113388) is a bragging-rights thread but developed into a discussion about the definition of a RPG.

However, THIS (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113452) is the appropriate thread started by Daria where you could post about your own essential categories of a RPG.


If you're including Warriors of Might and Magic in the borderline category (I would include it with the RPG's, but I understand why I'm in the minority on this one), you should probably include Shifters as well. It's a sequel of sorts to Warriors, and has basically the same gameplay.

Thanks for the proposal, I appreciate it. You are on to something here, I overlooked Shifters completely. Although it seems to have less RPG elements (more linearity) than Warriors of Might and Magic and goes into the direction of a straight hack-n-slash dungeon crawler, it should be probably included in the borderline category because of its strong RPG background.

lendelin
03-17-2008, 10:44 PM
I thought about putting more games in the borderline category thanks to proposals in this thread and other threads.

Gimme your thoughts if they should be included.

Deus Ex: The Conspiracy
Everblue 2 (that's my dangerous proposal :) )
Fallout Brotherhood of Steel
Shadow of the Colossus
Shifters
Swashbucklers: Blue vs. Grey

oremites
03-18-2008, 07:34 AM
Fallout - same category as Baldur's Gate/Champions
Shadow of the Colossus - not an RPG
Shifters - same category as Warriors of Might and Magic
Swashbucklers - borderline - I got this game solely on the fact that it uses the perk system ripped off from (or as an homage to) the Fallout PC games. I love the Fallout games.

bcks007
03-18-2008, 08:13 AM
I've never played shifters, so i have no idea on that one.

Deus Ex: The Conspiracy no
Everblue 2 (that's my dangerous proposal ) Tough call, if this is in, then SofC would be in i think. So no....
Fallout Brotherhood of Steel add to rpg list, yes
Shadow of the Colossus no
Shifters borderline i guess(not played)
Swashbucklers: Blue vs. Grey borderline

Overbite
03-18-2008, 04:36 PM
the fancy Xenosaga 3 cover is rare? I had 1 and 2 all bought when I went to Best Buy months ago and wasn't sure if I wanted to buy 3 because it was still $40 but it had a fancy cover so I bought it. It was so shiny :(

oremites
03-19-2008, 12:45 PM
I don't know if this counts, but there is the Sega Genesis Collection that has the Phantasy Star games. Sure they're ports from an older system, but so was Grandia II.

lendelin
03-19-2008, 08:24 PM
I don't know if this counts, but there is the Sega Genesis Collection that has the Phantasy Star games. Sure they're ports from an older system, but so was Grandia II.

You know, if someone makes a simple but great suggestion one didn't even consider, one feels dumb. I'm this 'one.'

oremites, you are absolutely right, thanks so much!! I'm glad you came over from cheapassgamer! :) Though it is a compilation disc with older RPGs, nevertheless it is a release for the PS2 with four full fledged RPGs and has to be included.

I added to the regular list

Sega Genesis Collection.* Backbone Entertainment, Sega, 11/7/06.

and since the compilations discs are something special I created this list with further information

Compilations with Role Playing Games

01) Sega Genesis Collection. Backbone Entertainment, Sega, 11/7/06. Among the 28 games are four classic role playing games originally released for the Genesis. Phantasy Star II from 1989, Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom from 1990, Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Milenium from 1994, and Sword of Vermilion from 1990.

Thanks again, guy! Much appreciated.

To all: I looked through the following compilation discs but didn't discover RPGs besides the ones on the Sega Genesis Collection disc. Since my pre-NES knowledge is there but limited, and I might have overlooked titles, please check if there are other RPGs on following collections:

Atari Anthology
Intellivision Lives!
Activision Anthology
Namco Museum
Taito Legends
Taito Legends 2
Midway Arcade Treasures
Midway Arcade Treasures 2
Midway Arcade Treasures 3
Capcom Classics Collection
Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 2
Sega Classics Collection
Sega Genesis Collection

lendelin
03-19-2008, 08:57 PM
Added to the regular list:

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. Interplay, Interplay, 1/14/04.


Added to the borderline list:

Deus Ex: The Conspiracy. Ion Storm, Eidos Interactive, 3/26/02.
Shifters.* 3DO, 3DO, 6/17/02.
Swashbucklers: Blue Vs. Grey.* Akella, 1C Company/Atari, 11/20/07.

Although vaportransmitter suggested a couple of months ago to include FALLOUT in the regular list, I had my concerns; but in the meantime I think that the game is so similar to Baldur's Gate series and Champions series that it has to be included despite less emphasized RPG elements to the aforementioned games. The attributable character skills, upgrading, and story makes it a RPG to such an extent that it should be included for the sake of consistency.

DEUS EX is certainly a hybrid game and as such very special, but the
attributable character skills, the upgrading, and the keyrole of the storyline and items justifies the inclusion in the borderline category.

SHIFTERS is certainly a very very tough call as was Warriors of Might and Magic, but becasue of its strong RPG background and the sake of consistency (the Warriors already included) I added it as borderline.

SWASHBUCKLERS has just enough adventure/RPG elements (exploration, world map, item collection and a barter system, to use Daria's term) to justify the inclusion in the borderline list. To be as inclusionary as possible if in serious doubt took over the consistency principle again which is certainly appropriate for the borderline category.

My proposal of Everblue 2 lost pretty clearly against my advocatus diaboli. It was tempting to consider it because of the extensive barter system, item collecting, and the immense exploration factor....and because it is just such a great game! :)

In all these decisions the elusive "feeling" based on existing RPG elements was decisive, that means the degree of RPG elements in these games which isn't quantifiable and doesn't follow strict categories of the definition of a RPG.

lendelin
03-27-2008, 09:00 PM
Just a heads up:

Circuit City has Odin Sphere and Dawn of Mana on clearance for $16.96.

Not as good as $8.96, but not bad at all.

bcks007
03-28-2008, 05:16 AM
Can you get those prices online for those 2 games? (I need mana)

Drag0nsfyre
03-28-2008, 08:40 AM
I finally found a pic and auction for it. Its out of my price range at the moment, so snatch it up. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xenosaga-Episode-III-PS2-New-Rare-Horogram-Cover_W0QQitemZ220208360177QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6205 3QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Glad I picked up the copy I saw yesterday at Blockbuster for $14. :)
former rental but it had the manual & original case an easily removed price tag and nothing on either disc. so it was more like a nice used copy.
Now I just need to go pick up ep. I & II if I find them since I never did earlier.

bcks007
03-28-2008, 10:37 AM
Did you get the lenticular cover of Xenosaga Episode III? Not to be mistaken with the normal copy of XE3.

Drag0nsfyre
03-28-2008, 11:12 AM
Did you get the lenticular cover of Xenosaga Episode III? Not to be mistaken with the normal copy of XE3.

It was the normal one

lendelin
03-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Can you get those prices online for those 2 games? (I need mana)

Usually those games aren't available online anymore, but if they are you can get them online for the clearance bin prices.

RPGs go very fast ususally, but I'm glad that there was a halfway decent sale going on again. The last couple of months was almost nothing.

It pays off to check cheapassgamer regularly; although this time I read about this specific sale in its entiretey first on DP thanks to Machinegex. He was faster than the cheapassgamer guys. :)

However, I read about the prices for Odin Sphere and Dawn of Mana first on cheapassgamer and then immediately posted it in this thread. I like doing it this way specifically about RPG deals w/o starting new threads.

Would be great if everyone would post about great deals for RPGs immediately in this thread. Unlike the sports fanatics we RPG fanastics need certainly great sales.

Daria
03-28-2008, 11:51 PM
Well I first read about the sale here, in this thread, so thanks a lot!

I was able to pick up both Odin's Sphere and Dawn of Mana today. DoM was kind of a bonus, but I've been looking to buy Odin's Sphere for awhile now. Also picked up Brave Story for $40, wasn't anything of a steal, but PSP games are tough to find in my area, no one seems to carry RPGs for the system. Unless it's Kingdoms of Paradise or PoPoLoCrois...

lendelin
03-29-2008, 12:01 AM
Well I first read about the sale here, in this thread, so thanks a lot!

I was able to pick up both Odin's Sphere and Dawn of Mana today. DoM was kind of a bonus, but I've been looking to buy Odin's Sphere for awhile now. Also picked up Brave Story for $40, wasn't anything of a steal, but PSP games are tough to find in my area, no one seems to carry RPGs for the system. Unless it's Kingdoms of Paradise or PoPoLoCrois...

Great, I'm glad for you! I bought Odin Sphere for $40 (brrr) because I was impatient weeks ago. Certainly for both games great prices. CC sold Dawn of Mana for $50 until now.

...but I always luck out in these sales. I got two Dawn of Manas to resell, also a Starfox Assault which can be resold with profit.

lendelin
03-29-2008, 12:02 AM
Can you get those prices online for those 2 games? (I need mana)

If you didn't get Mana, let me know.

bcks007
03-29-2008, 05:31 AM
Neither game was online anymore. I also live in smal town, with nothing but 2 grocery stores, so i didn't get a chance to hunt it down in the big city.

You wanna sell me Dawn of Mana? :)

lendelin
03-29-2008, 03:35 PM
Another heads up for cheapskates like me:

This Sunday, March 30th, Circuit City has a 33% discount on all clearance games. (these are all games ending with .96, usually 16.96, 12.96, 8.96, and 4.96) I'm not sure how long this will last, usually 5 days, but it certainly starts this Sunday.

If you kept your receipts and go to CC on Sunday, they'll price adjust the games. This goes for all clearance bin games purchased within the last thirty days.

If you got only one very cheap game it may not be worth the trip considering gas money. However, I spent altogether almost $70 on clearance bin stuff, and I'll get $23 back. My Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 for the 360 was this way only $11.30.

Daria, that means you got actually Odin Sphere and Dawn of Mana for 11.30 which makes the deals sweet. Great prices for these games.

So, after price adjustment the actual prices for clearance games are:

16.96 = 11.36
12.96 = 8.66
8.96 = 6.01
4.96 = 3.33

With those new prices in mind some games might be wortwhile picking up.

lendelin
03-29-2008, 03:36 PM
Neither game was online anymore. I also live in smal town, with nothing but 2 grocery stores, so i didn't get a chance to hunt it down in the big city.

You wanna sell me Dawn of Mana? :)

send a pm.

lendelin
03-31-2008, 10:09 PM
Since Mana Khemia kept the sheduled release date and was indeed released today, I added to the regular list:

Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis. Gust, NIS America, 3/31/08.

Added to the list of Deluxe sets:

08) Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis. The cardboard box contains a mini-poster, a cheat sheet, and a soundtrack CD in a special reversible slip cover. Available only in this special edition and in the 'Premium Box.'

09) Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis. Premium Box. This was an exclusive release from the online retailer 'Rosenqueen.' The oversized "Premium Box" was produced in a limited number of 1000. It is different from the widely available special edition. First, the cardboard box is of different size and cover art. Second, it contains additionally a figurine of the character Jessica. The mini-poster and the soundtrack CD in a special slip cover are identical with the items in the special edition. Available in the special edition and in the 'Premium Box.'


EDIT:

Although I didn't receive my editions yet, I removed from the list the 09) entry about the premium box as an edition variant. Otherwise we have to include so many other titles like Suikoden V or Ar tonelico that came with a specially packaged soundtrack CD as a pre-order package but weren't part of the special sets.

It seems that the Premium Box can't be regarded as an independent edition because the game isn't part of the special packaging; rather, the common cardboard box every retailer offers comes with its entire special content separately with the oversized Premium Box (w figurine). That makes the Premium Box indeed a pre-order item; a valuable item worthwhile to have, but nevertheless nothing more than part of a pre-order package.

lendelin
04-01-2008, 03:13 AM
About the Rosequeen edition of Mana Khemia:

From looking at pictures on ebay I'm still not sure if the regular cardboard box every retailer gets is included in the Rosenqueen edition or not. Let's hope it is so we don't have to pay for the regular box as well.

It seems that the regular box with the game comes separately with the Rosenqueen box. There seems no space available in the Rosenqueen box besides the figurine.

If the game comes indeed separately from the Rosenqueen box in the widely available common retailer box, then we have to doubt if the Rosenqueen edition is an alternative edition at all; or if the oversized box with the figurine is just a pre-order goodie that comes with the game.

As soon as we know for sure I will change the text of the 09) entry if necessary. Probably I have to wait until I get my two editions.

There are already around 30 Premium Boxes offered on ebay!!

For the ones who didn't pre-order the thing I think the best time to get them is in around 4 weeks or when they can be had for under 100. Then dumb expectations of prices around 100 or 200 get the deserved blow -- even a product with a limited production run of 1000 needs a high demand to fetch high prices...but then, you never know.

My guess: they can be had probably for around 80 for some time to come because a lot of them were bought with reselling in mind.

lendelin
04-04-2008, 10:31 PM
Mana Khemia with the figurine bonus item in a box took one week to arrive at my doorsteps after Rosenqueen shipped it. (I ordered one, was charged for one, but got two today -- which is a very nice surprise)

Since I was able to have a a closer look at the content of the regular retail box, I corrected the entry for the game in the deluxe set list:

08) Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis. The cardboard box contains a soundtrack CD in a plastic case with an artwork insert and a CD cover insert. The CD cover insert is a fold-out and double-sided. On one side are two covers for the soundtrack CD, including a weapon stat sheet. The other side of the CD cover insert is a mini poster with game characters. Sold only in the special edition.

I also put pictures up for the box, game, CD, and the sides of the CD covers.

I have to say that Rosenqueen made out of one item (a soundtrack CD) five items to advertise thanks to a cover foldout and reversible sides:

- the CD
- two CD covers
- one weapon stat sheet (which is just part of one of the CD covers)
- a mini-poster

...but actually all of the above is just one Cd cover insert. :) (except for the CD itself)

If you are confused by the description in the list, maybe the pictures are helpful to clear things up.

I like the oversized special box and the figurine, I think it was worthwhile to pay ten dollars more for the bundle set.

Aussie2B
04-05-2008, 12:15 AM
I'm getting a little off topic from the subject of the list, but when you do collectors think will be the best time to pick up the original Persona 3 with FES on the horizon now? Since I skipped out on the original, I plan to get FES, but the collector in me wants to have the original as well, especially considering the deluxe package. FES has already taken a huge hit into the demand for the original, which is helpful for me at least, and I'm trying to use some educated speculation to determine when it'll be at its cheapest - now, immediately after FES's release, or a fair bit later? I suppose it's always possible that FES might stir up some new interest in the original box set, so I don't know. What do you guys think?

Regardless, it's going to be interesting seeing the value the game holds over the long-term.

Daria
04-05-2008, 12:23 AM
What is FES exactly? Is it Persona 3 with some bonus dungeons. Or like a Parallel sequel? Kind of like how there were 2 Persona 2's. I could read up on it I suppose, but whatever. :P

Aussie2B
04-05-2008, 12:32 AM
From my understanding FES is an expansion, except it has the full original game on it in addition to the new content. Supposedly it adds a bunch of gameplay hours and can almost be a semi-sequel since I think the new content expands the game past the original ending. In terms of gameplay, it should entirely replace any need to have the original, short of wanting all the extra goodies in the box. :P

carlcarlson
04-05-2008, 11:10 AM
I'd say Persona 3 will be it's cheapest in the months right after FES is released. That is when most people who look for Persona 3 will realize that FES has a bunch more content, and for about the same price. After all of the "new release" hype has died I think the original will go back up a bit because then the only people looking for it will be collectors looking for the extras. I don't think it will ever get back to where it was awhile ago, but I do think it will go up a little more.

Also, speculating on this kind of thing has proved pretty unsuccessful in the past, so take that for what it's worth.

lendelin
04-06-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm getting a little off topic from the subject of the list, but when you do collectors think will be the best time to pick up the original Persona 3 with FES on the horizon now? Since I skipped out on the original, I plan to get FES, but the collector in me wants to have the original as well, especially considering the deluxe package. FES has already taken a huge hit into the demand for the original, which is helpful for me at least, and I'm trying to use some educated speculation to determine when it'll be at its cheapest - now, immediately after FES's release, or a fair bit later? I suppose it's always possible that FES might stir up some new interest in the original box set, so I don't know. What do you guys think?

Regardless, it's going to be interesting seeing the value the game holds over the long-term.

My advice is wait and be patient to purchase the original special edition. It will become much cheaper after FES is released. First, because FES expands significantly on gameplay content it will be regarded by gamers as the 'superior' Persona 3. Second, most guys interested in the game are not after the box edition like collector's are.

Wait two or 3 months after the FES release, by this time the image of the FES edition will have decreased the price of the original.

To be patient pays off. Look at it this way: you can always pay a ridiculous over-price for a game if it doesn't get cheaper since they usually don't increase in price very fast.

I always set myself a limit of a good and reasonable price, and I just don't buy until the price comes down to my level.

Exceptions apply. The box set for Magna Carta was never on sale, and I waited more than two years to get it for $20. After two years and a half I saw in a GS the box set in perfect new condition but opened and sold used for $30. So I bought it.

As a rule you safe a lot of money if you're patient, and this money buys more games. :) Buy when it is cheap, sell when it is expensive. (Damn, what an insight, today I'm on a roll, I'm tellin' ya)

lendelin
04-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Added to the regular list:

Baroque.* Sting, Atlus, 4/8/08.

The game didn't get a published guide.

This brings the total number of games up to 127. Together with the borderline cases and MMO RPGs the total number is 147.

lendelin
04-09-2008, 01:58 AM
Just a heads up:

Amazon sells SWASHBUCKLERS: BLUE VS. GREY for $9.99, and the game is eligible for free super saver shipping. (=orders over $25) The cheapest price for the game I saw so far.

We put the game in the borderline category, and it is certainly beyond RPG collecting an interesting unique late release for the console.

LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Atari-Swashbucklers/dp/B000RW3V3O/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1207720149&sr=8-1) to Amazon
LINK (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/838/838459p1.html) to the IGN review

lendelin
04-14-2008, 02:22 PM
Another Heads Up:

The edition without the CD of SMT Nocturne is offered by Play Asia for $44.99.

LINK (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-43-49-en-15-nocturne-50-13-70-bug.html) to Play Asia

I know it's not a bargain price but some of you might bite because

a) it is certainly cheaper than the $80 to $130 range sealed copies for the game go on ebay,

b) it is the non-soundtrack CD version some of you completists might be after.

QUESTION:
I take this opportunity to ask if there is new information about the non-CD version of the game, that means if the non-CD version is a second printing OR of the two versions were offered from the beginning after the games release.

I know that this new offering isn't a second printing because I bought my version w/o the CD almost two years ago new at a Gamecrazy, so this version isn't certainly new.

(I corrected the entry for the game in the list some time ago and emphasized the uncertainty of the version w/o the CD as a second printing)

carlcarlson
04-14-2008, 07:03 PM
I don't think the fact that this version lacks a soundtrack keeps it from being a reprint. In fact, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a reprint. I know that Atlus is supposed to have said they wouldn't do it, but still....

heybtbm
04-14-2008, 07:20 PM
I don't think the fact that this version lacks a soundtrack keeps it from being a reprint. In fact, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a reprint. I know that Atlus is supposed to have said they wouldn't do it, but still....

I'd wager that GQD finally got the go ahead from Atlus. We'll know in a month or two if that was the case. Then there's always the possibility that these could be Hong Kong bootlegs too.

lendelin
04-22-2008, 04:24 PM
Seems that Persona 3 Fes kept its street date. There is no guide that I know of.

Added to the regular list:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES.* Atlus, Atlus, 4/22/08.

Total: 128

**Dumb Q alert: What does "FES" actually stand for?**

lendelin
04-22-2008, 04:32 PM
I'd wager that GQD finally got the go ahead from Atlus. We'll know in a month or two if that was the case. Then there's always the possibility that these could be Hong Kong bootlegs too.

So there is no new information if the version of SMT Nocturne w/o the CD was offered from the beginning? If Atlus says that was not a reprint, then the version I got around 18 months ago is just a variant offered by Atlus.

One thing is for sure: The non-CD version was released some time after the original release because it doesn't have the security strip, and I've never seen the non-CD version with the security strip.

Just asking because the uncertainty in the list irks me....and you were right pointing out that someting shouldn't be called a second printing unless it is 'official' or unofficilally confirmed 100%.

bcks007
04-22-2008, 06:51 PM
FES
Final Edition sequel


Just my guess, prolly wrong. :angel:

oremites
04-22-2008, 09:46 PM
FES is short for Festival. I don't know anything more than that.

On the atlus website, look in their forums at the Reprint topic under Nocturne. A site admin was among those commenting. He was a little vague, and I do wish they would be more open about what is going there, but I get out of the comments that there was definitely a reprint.

lendelin
05-02-2008, 03:36 AM
Just a heads up:

Amazon sells Dawn of Mana for $19.99.

LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Square-Enix-Dawn-of-Mana/dp/B000NGQ26C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1209713331&sr=1-1)

Not as good as the recent CC deal, but still decent.

gepeto
05-03-2008, 09:44 AM
I need a little help here. I was at an out of the area gamestop yesterday and I noticed a rpg for 19.99 used by I think made or publiushed by uto or ufo. It looked recent.
It looked old school. I was planning on seeing if they had it local for the by 2 get 1 but I forgot the name. of it.

Aussie2B
05-03-2008, 11:36 AM
You talking about Heavenly Guardian? It's not an RPG. It's an arcade-style action adventure kind of game, like Pocky & Rocky.

gepeto
05-03-2008, 01:34 PM
You talking about Heavenly Guardian? It's not an RPG. It's an arcade-style action adventure kind of game, like Pocky & Rocky.

Thanks it was 10 minutes to close I couldn't study it well. I couldn't find it today so I was going to go back before the sale ends. Saved me the trip.

gepeto
05-03-2008, 03:12 PM
the rpg list for the ps2 is impressive. Considering getting an rpg use to be a treat whether good or bad. The psp seems to have a bevy of ones as well. NIS of america has really stepped up. Opps I thought it was an edit. I would like a remake or handheld dragon force.

lendelin
05-28-2008, 03:02 PM
HEADS UP:

ODIN SPHERE (new) will be sold by Gamestop/EB Games for $20 starting June 2nd ("Gamedays Sale").

A full list of the games can be found in the stickied thread 'Daily Deals and Discounts' under 'Gamestop Gameday Sale' started by GrandAmChandler. There you will also find a link to a ten percent coupon for the games on sale or (if you subscribed to GameInformer) the coupon is on page 37 of the most recent GameInformer.

Certainly not a ten dollar deal, but $18 (with coupon) for a game that is sold at most places for $40 is a decent deal.

Like last year it seems that the stores got plenty of stock for this sale and they will be put on shelves not earlier than June 2nd.


NEWS:

After multiple delays, CHAOS WARS, a GS/EB Games exclusive ($40) seems to keep its street date (beginning of June). GS/EB Games online has it already listed in stock and ready to ship.

lendelin
06-02-2008, 10:06 PM
Chaos Wars kept its street date. Added to the regular list:

Chaos Wars.* Idea Factory, 0~3 Entertainment, 6/3/08.

I made a slight change to the entries in the deluxe set list for Ar Tonelico and SMT Digital Devil Saga since both were originally only sold in the deluxe sets but got a reprint sold as stand-alone games.

MarkMan
06-08-2008, 08:15 AM
Is it me or is Chaos Wars a bit hard to find at GS stores?

I checked 4 stores in my area (San Diego) and they either got 1 or 2 copies in.

lendelin
06-09-2008, 01:57 AM
Is it me or is Chaos Wars a bit hard to find at GS stores?

I checked 4 stores in my area (San Diego) and they either got 1 or 2 copies in.

I did something I usually don't do...I pre-ordered my copy (yes, I'm ashamed of it) because it is a GS/EBG exclusive and becasue it is a very late release for the PS2.

Two or three copies per store is probably realistic for the game. It is a niche game for an "older" system; but that doesn't mean it is hard to get, the demand for the game isn't very high.

Electric Blue
06-09-2008, 02:05 AM
I did something I usually don't do...I pre-ordered my copy (yes, I'm ashamed of it) because it is a GS/EBG exclusive and becasue it is a very late release for the PS2.

Two or three copies per store is probably realistic for the game. It is a niche game for an "older" system; but that doesn't mean it is hard to get, the demand for the game isn't very high.

I think demand was higher than they anticipated, it was OOS online for awhile.

lendelin
06-10-2008, 01:08 PM
I think demand was higher than they anticipated, it was OOS online for awhile.

Sometimes that happens at Gamestop; when pre-orders are fulfilled, games are not available temporarily online. So far the game is in stock online for two weeks now.

If this game will be hard to get 6 months from now, we just can't be sure. We don't know the exact print run, and we crtainly can't predict the demand.

Surprises are a plenty and the demand for a game is uncertain. Noone predicted Nocturne to be pricey (although there were speculations about it, and I suspected it too), noone thought SMT Digital Devil Saga would be so high in demand, the same goes for Suikoden, Rhapsody, and to stray into other genres Ace Combat Zero wasn't expected to get temporarily such a high price increase based on demand. You just never know although I admit that there are a lot of factors in the case of Chaos Wars which might bring up the price in the future.

lendelin
06-10-2008, 01:11 PM
I don't know about more scheduled releases for the PS2. Could it be that Chaos Wars is the last RPG for the PS2???

carlcarlson
06-10-2008, 01:35 PM
Didn't I hear that Persona 4 was still going to be released for the PS2?

oremites
06-10-2008, 03:18 PM
I don't know about more scheduled releases for the PS2. Could it be that Chaos Wars is the last RPG for the PS2???
Agetec is releasing a game this month called "Falling Stars" that is supposed to be an RPG. I don't know anything about it, though.

Atlus will be releasing "Dokapon Kingdom" in October. It's described as a board/party/RPG game, so it doesn't sound like something I'd consider a real RPG.

lendelin
06-11-2008, 10:27 PM
carlcarlson and oremites, you are correct.

Persona 4 will be released for the PS2 in Japan in July. No word yet about an American release. But my guess is it will be released in America as well with so many PS2 systems out there and the popularity of the series.

Falling Stars seems to be an RPG aimed at children and is also a PC game. IGN gives a release date of June 17th. LINK to IGN (http://ps2.ign.com/objects/142/14217316.html).

...and, yep, Dokapon Kingdom published by Atlus and also on the Wii, seems to be a mix of RPG elements and multiplayer board games. Probably won't qualify as an RPG or for the borderline category...we'll see. LINK to IGN (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/878/878735p1.html).

Thanks for the heads up, guys.

Daria
06-11-2008, 10:30 PM
Falling Stars seems to be an RPG aimed at children and is also a PC game. IGN gives a release date of June 17th. LINK to IGN (http://ps2.ign.com/objects/142/14217316.html).

Dude that looks terrible...

I want to play it!

lendelin
06-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Dude that looks terrible...

I want to play it!

LOL...bad games are irresistible.

Mason P.
06-13-2008, 10:21 AM
I have called 8 Gamestops and not one has a factory sealed copy. only a couple of them have 1 gutted copy.


EDIT: After continuing to look, I did fid one store that had one sealed copy. I made it mine. :)

lendelin
07-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Just a heads-up:

Amazon sells Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne for $30 shipped. It is the reprinted edition w/o the soundtrack CD. LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Atlus-USA-Shin-Megami-Tensei/dp/B00024W1U6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1215637944&sr=1-1)

btw, the eagerly awaited RPG Falling Stars got delayed to August 8th. A disappointment for sure. (sorry, Daria)

Nate Nanjo
07-14-2008, 09:02 AM
Hey, Persona 4 has a December release date.

lendelin
07-14-2008, 02:38 PM
Indeed, Atlus announced Persona 4 for the PS2. Release date is December 9th. Price: $39.99. Included is a soundtrack CD.

lendelin
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
At the end of the OP I put up pictures of the regular cases with extra content. It makes life easier when you buy used games and want to make sure that the extra items are in the case.

In particular for the games with two versions the visual help is useful since in most cases the front covers are identical and only on the back covers the extra content is mentioned in small print. Besides, I know a lot of you are just curious to know how the Digimon Card from Digimon World 4 looks. :)

However, I'm missing scans from some variants. If someone of you could provide scans of the following items I would aprreciate it very much. Just send me a PM so for the sake of completeness the picture list can be finished.

1) the trading card from Inuyasha: The Cursed Mask, and also a better scan from the back cover of the game with the card.

2) the lenticular special cover (removeable) from Xenosaga III.


EDIT: A big thanks to koster who provided scans for the back cover of Nocturne with the CD and scans of the soundtrack CD! I uploaded his pictures and mine in the picture section.

bcks007
07-24-2008, 05:23 AM
lendelin,

In your bragging thread as you called it, did you know you have a picture of Sega Classics Collection, and not Sega Genesis Collection. LOL


For the new case pictures you put up, look closely at Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir disc. There is something "french" about it. See it? Might want to find a new picture for that, since this thread is for american releases. :p



If you bought that game used, the disc and the case do not seem to match up btw. I'm not sure if those pictures where from your personal collection, or just pictures you had.


If you do own that F-disc, for FMA2, could you tell me the PDSS number? I wanna compare it to the normal number.

lendelin
07-24-2008, 12:41 PM
double post

lendelin
07-24-2008, 12:42 PM
lendelin,

In your bragging thread as you called it, did you know you have a picture of Sega Classics Collection, and not Sega Genesis Collection. LOL

You're right! I will correct it. Thanks! Dang, not only did you look at the old thread, you also have the eyes of a hawk ... which is further proven by the following...


For the new case pictures you put up, look closely at Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir disc. There is something "french" about it. See it? Might want to find a new picture for that, since this thread is for american releases. :p

I should have known it! :) Once I tried to cheat a bit and I immediately was caught.

I have the game sealed and didn't want to open it. So I scanned the front cover and back cover, but online I could only find pictures of the Canadian release (?) for the Bonus DVD and game disc. Since the DVD is identical to the American release and the extra items are the important ones to be pictured (the game disc is just a space filler), I indeed cheated. I noticed the F in the SLUS number but I thought who will notice it anyway. I should have known that YOU will notice it. :)

I'll correct it as soon as I get good scans of the game disc and DVD. Promise! btw, there are only a few (5) pics I I obtained from online, and they are all correct (American releases) and pretty good quality. To get pics online of the rather obscure extra items like cards or sticker sheets is impossible anyway, and the RPG list is the only one where you can find them.

So I can't give you the PDSS number on the Fullmetal 2 disc. Just out of curiosity and lack of knowledge: what is the meaning of the PDSS numbers, and in which way are they important for collecting?