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Oobgarm
07-24-2008, 12:50 PM
Just out of curiosity and lack of knowledge: what is the meaning of the PDSS numbers, and in which way are they important for collecting?

They are the identifying numbers for each individual disc revision, if I'm not mistaken. I'm actually not 100% sure, as I've not done a lot of looking into the PDSS numbers, since there's no field for it in the guide...

lendelin
07-24-2008, 02:50 PM
They are the identifying numbers for each individual disc revision, if I'm not mistaken. I'm actually not 100% sure, as I've not done a lot of looking into the PDSS numbers, since there's no field for it in the guide...

Thanks! I wonder how important they are for collecting. The SLUS numbers are obvious, but I have no idea about the PDSS numbers.


IMPORTANT: Still need scans for the following items:

1) the trading card from Inuyasha: The Cursed Mask, and also a better scan from the back cover of the game with the card.

2) the lenticular special cover (removeable) from Xenosaga III.

pooch
07-25-2008, 02:11 AM
First off, awesome list!

When I was browsing for a list like this, I remember finding one in the playstation forum on the official playstation site. Do you know the list I am referring to? Have you compared yours to it before as I remember they have more games but perhaps their definition of RPG is wider. I can dig up the thread if you want me to.

lendelin
07-26-2008, 12:32 AM
First off, awesome list!

When I was browsing for a list like this, I remember finding one in the playstation forum on the official playstation site. Do you know the list I am referring to? Have you compared yours to it before as I remember they have more games but perhaps their definition of RPG is wider. I can dig up the thread if you want me to.

Before I started the thread I looked around for useful lists at some sites, and about a year ago again to check if there is a better list than this one around.

I can't remember if I checked the list you mentioned. Would be great if you could put up the link to the thread so I can compare it.

lendelin
07-26-2008, 12:39 AM
It irks me that there is a small detail missing for the list of the regular cases with extra content. If a game had two versions I mentioned if the SLUS numbers were identical or different.

I don't have this information about SMT Nocturne. The SLUS number for the version without the soundtrack CD is 20911. Could someone of you check the SLUS number for the common version WITH the CD if they are identical?

lendelin
07-26-2008, 01:06 AM
I noticed that the only deluxe edition with different cover art for the case, disc and manual than the standard version has also a completely(!) different SLUS number.

Final Fantasy XII standard version has the SLUS number 20963, and the special edition has 21475. I made a note in the list.

For the sake of reliability and consistency, can someone check the SLUS numbers for the REPRINTS of AR TONELICO and SMT DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA?

I have only the original releases. Ar Tonelico has the SLUS number 21445P (maybe the reprint is without the P) and SMT Digital Devil Saga has the SLUS number 20974.

When checking make sure that you purchased the more recent reprints of the games.

carlcarlson
07-26-2008, 10:54 AM
I don't have this information about SMT Nocturne. The SLUS number for the version without the soundtrack CD is 20911. Could someone of you check the SLUS number for the common version WITH the CD if they are identical?

The SLUS for my version (with soundtrack) is 20911 also.

lendelin
07-26-2008, 02:23 PM
The SLUS for my version (with soundtrack) is 20911 also.

Thanks so much! I added to the list that the SLUS number for both versions is the same.

lendelin
07-30-2008, 02:56 PM
For the special lists I added the SLUS numbers for each game since they were mentioned already for the games with two versions.

I made notes about something which was new to me.

For the games in deluxe sets:

Note: The letters ‘P’ (for Premium) and ‘S’ (for Special) in a SLUS number are printed on the packaging only. The SLUS number on the game case and on the game disc does not contain these letters.

For the games in regular cases with extra content:

Note: The letters ‘P’ (for Premium) and ‘S’ (for Special) in a SLUS number are printed on the game case only. The SLUS number on the game disc does not contain these letters.

...which takes care of the question if the reprint of Ar tonelico retained the additional P in the SLUS since the actual game case in the set doesn't show it in the first place.

Hope the additions of the SLUS numbers are helpful.

btw, Falling Stars is scheduled for August 19th, price $14.99. Amazon takes pre-orders already. (not that I recommend buying it for this price)

...and just out of curiosity: I noticed that the two WD disc-labels for Growlanser Generations have at least two variants for each disc. The SLUS numbers on the discs have an additional A and B at the end. Are those referring to the variants of the disc label?

bcks007
07-31-2008, 04:50 AM
I think so. Gungriffon Blaze and Silpheed: The Lost Planet, for the ps2, both have 2 variants for the discs. At least i think there is only 2.

I believe someone told me that the discs are always the same for Growlanser Generations, and always the same for Growlanser Generations Deluxe Pack. So the "A" discs will always be in one set, and the "B" discs will always be in the other set. I have no idea if this is true or not, just going by what someone told me.-_-

pooch
08-05-2008, 03:50 AM
Here you go, I think this is the list that I found sometime ago, seems like your list is much more update than this one:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=rpg&thread.id=345670

oremites
08-09-2008, 12:21 AM
A lot of PS2 RPG news lately:

Eternal Poison, an SRPG, to be released by Atlus in November
Ar Tonelico 2 officially announced for December
Disgaea and Odin Sphere set for Greatest Hits releases.

The PS2 has a lot of life left in her yet.

dao2
08-09-2008, 12:57 AM
I think mana khemia 2 got released ><

Aussie2B
08-09-2008, 08:29 PM
I'm really amazed that Atlus and NISA and others are still cranking out localizations for PS2 RPGs. I guess they figure that their fan bases are so insanely dedicated that they'll keep buying every game at launch now matter how outdated the games and hardware may get (it doesn't help that the fans are convinced that every Atlus and NIS RPG will be worth big bucks down the road, if even it's already been proven to be a complete myth). I honestly thought that Chaos Wars would be about it. While there are a few that are multi-platform like Baroque and Dokapon Kingdom, there are still plenty of PS2 exclusives lined up.

oremites
08-10-2008, 01:23 PM
I'm really amazed that Atlus and NISA and others are still cranking out localizations for PS2 RPGs. I guess they figure that their fan bases are so insanely dedicated that they'll keep buying every game at launch now matter how outdated the games and hardware may get (it doesn't help that the fans are convinced that every Atlus and NIS RPG will be worth big bucks down the road, if even it's already been proven to be a complete myth). I honestly thought that Chaos Wars would be about it. While there are a few that are multi-platform like Baroque and Dokapon Kingdom, there are still plenty of PS2 exclusives lined up.
There are still people out there besides fanboys and speculators who are glad to see PS2 games being released. I only have a PS2 and am completely happy with it. Video games are just a hobby and there are plenty of good to great PS2 games that I haven't played yet (and they're cheap now too). I'm still having a great time so why should I feel compelled to rush out and spend hundreds on a new console and games just because my system is "outdated."

Don't get me wrong, there are good reasons for people to upgrade to the current console gen and I'm not saying people are wrong to do it. It's just that none of those reason apply to me, and I imagine there are plenty of other people in the same situation. I'm sure I'll upgrade someday. Probably when my TV goes out and I finally get around to getting an HDTV.

dao2
08-10-2008, 01:40 PM
I'm really amazed that Atlus and NISA and others are still cranking out localizations for PS2 RPGs. I guess they figure that their fan bases are so insanely dedicated that they'll keep buying every game at launch now matter how outdated the games and hardware may get (it doesn't help that the fans are convinced that every Atlus and NIS RPG will be worth big bucks down the road, if even it's already been proven to be a complete myth). I honestly thought that Chaos Wars would be about it. While there are a few that are multi-platform like Baroque and Dokapon Kingdom, there are still plenty of PS2 exclusives lined up.

RPGs are one of the last games that are about graphics, and the style that they bring to the PS2 (sprite clones) look awesome. Not to mention about 10x better then the shit that comes out on next-gen consoles. Even if they are like 50 pixels at least the guys look like guys not girls ;p

Aussie2B
08-10-2008, 09:25 PM
I never said there's anything wrong with supporting the older systems or that I'm not happy about the fact that the PS2 is still getting exclusives. I think it's absolutely wonderful that these companies are localizing really obscure stuff that would've never left Japan in any previous generation. I'm actually buying more of these late releases than I have with the earlier releases, since I know they're more likely to be rare and become expensive down the road. My only point is that the fervent, rabid fan base is absolutely 100% the reason why these companies think it's still profitable to localize PS2 RPGs this late into the game. They know their fan base will buy absolutely anything without even doing any research on a game just because it says "Atlus" or "NIS America" on the cover, and the foolish speculators help business even more. I do take some issue with that since lapping up anything and everything these companies dish out will only be detrimental to the advancement of the genre, as even sub-par games will get decent sales. I mean, I love 2D graphics, but most 2D RPGs on the PS2 look pathetic. The hardware is capable of so much more, but the developers know that the fans are complacent and putting in any more than minimal effort is totally unnecessary. The players should demand more for the developers in order to give them the sense that they need to strive for increasing greatness in each project, and not just in graphics but in all regards. At this rate, they're just going to crank out the exact same cookie-cutter RPGs year after year. Just look how fast they're releasing those Atelier Iris games.

oremites
08-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Aussie2B, your point about companies shoveling out crap because people keep buying it is valid, but that's pretty much true about any product you can name. I don't think that's going to change.

About the Atlus/NIS localizations - maybe it's just the case that some people like those kinds of games more than you do. People who enjoy a particular genre of games/books/movies/music/whatever can enjoy different variations on the same theme even if the games/etc. aren't all great and even if, to someone not "into" that genre, they all seem the same.

I would guess at this point that we're not going to see any ground-breaking titles on the PS2. The best we can hope for are localizations of lesser games which will be fun to try out. I don't pay attention to what goes on in the Japanese gaming world. Does anybody know if there are any top tier games that never made it over here, but still might?

Aussie2B
08-13-2008, 05:44 AM
I don't think it's a matter of shoveling out crap since I feel the stuff Atlus and Nippon Ichi localize is usually at least competent. It's more a matter of the developers putting in simply the bare minimum amount of effort into each subsequent release. And then the fans reinforce that by rushing to buy the games on day one without so much as waiting to get any impressions on the game, and then salivating over each mediocre release just as much as the titles that do deserve such attention.

It's got nothing to do with me not liking the genre either because I adore RPGs and play them predominantly. I love Atlus and Nippon Ichi, and I can have fun with just about any of their games, even if they don't leave a lasting impact. However, I think I've been playing RPGs long enough to realize that plenty of them aren't remarkable in any shape or form and don't deserve the praise and the sales that they get from young kids that are so closed-minded about games that they won't play anything that's not an RPG and will thusly worship any and every RPG that comes out. If I can tell that a game from the aforementioned companies is great, I'll buy it at the full MSRP, like Etrian Odyssey and Person 3: FES, but the other stuff doesn't warrant a pre-order. I'll buy used or on clearance for those.

lendelin
08-25-2008, 09:26 PM
I believe someone told me that the discs are always the same for Growlanser Generations, and always the same for Growlanser Generations Deluxe Pack. So the "A" discs will always be in one set, and the "B" discs will always be in the other set. I have no idea if this is true or not, just going by what someone told me.-_-

I have pics of the label variants, and we should clear that up sometime -- otherwise the statement in the list that the game (Growlanser Generations) in the deluxe pack is identical to the standrad version is wrong and needs to be corrected.

btw, I replaced the pic for Sega Classics Collection in my bragging rights thread with the correct pic of the Sega Genesis Collection. :) as seen here LINK (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113388)

lendelin
08-25-2008, 09:34 PM
Here you go, I think this is the list that I found sometime ago, seems like your list is much more update than this one:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=rpg&thread.id=345670

Good list, thanks for the link! -- but nothing we missed and there are inconsistencies and some dates wrong, but not a bad list at all. I'm glad that our list is still the best, most informative, and most reliable out there.

lendelin
08-25-2008, 09:44 PM
I don't think it's a matter of shoveling out crap since I feel the stuff Atlus and Nippon Ichi localize is usually at least competent. It's more a matter of the developers putting in simply the bare minimum amount of effort into each subsequent release. And then the fans reinforce that by rushing to buy the games on day one without so much as waiting to get any impressions on the game, and then salivating over each mediocre release just as much as the titles that do deserve such attention.

It's got nothing to do with me not liking the genre either because I adore RPGs and play them predominantly. I love Atlus and Nippon Ichi, and I can have fun with just about any of their games, even if they don't leave a lasting impact. However, I think I've been playing RPGs long enough to realize that plenty of them aren't remarkable in any shape or form and don't deserve the praise and the sales that they get from young kids that are so closed-minded about games that they won't play anything that's not an RPG and will thusly worship any and every RPG that comes out. If I can tell that a game from the aforementioned companies is great, I'll buy it at the full MSRP, like Etrian Odyssey and Person 3: FES, but the other stuff doesn't warrant a pre-order. I'll buy used or on clearance for those.

I think you are both right. There is nothing wrong with late releases for a system because even some cheap B-Titles are sometimes surprises and turn out decent to good games, and certainly there is nothing wrong with having options in a game library. On the other hand these are mostly cheap titles in price and quality, and the good games (like Disgaea 3) switch to the newer consoles.

...and noone anyway complained about Persona 4 getting a late release. :)

Overall I think the RPGs we got in 2008 and the ones still scheduled are pretty impressive for late releases of a last gen console.

Here are the games I know of sheduled for the PS2:

Eternal Poison (November, includes soundtrack CD, a strategy RPG published by Atlus)
Ar Tonelico 2 (December)
SMT Persona 4 (December, includes soundtrack CD)

lendelin
08-25-2008, 09:49 PM
I added to the regular list:

Shepherd’s Crossing.* Success, Valcon Games, 8/19/08.
Falling Stars.* Ivolgamus, Agetec, 8/26/08.

Shepherd's Crossing was released already last week and flew completely under the radar. Until today I didn't know about it. It seems to be a cute Harvest Moon clone. Like Falling Stars (released tomorrow) it is sold for $14.99. No guides for both games.

...btw, does someone know if Persona 4 will get a guide from Doublejump?

lendelin
08-25-2008, 10:04 PM
A lot of PS2 RPG news lately:

Eternal Poison, an SRPG, to be released by Atlus in November
Ar Tonelico 2 officially announced for December
Disgaea and Odin Sphere set for Greatest Hits releases.

The PS2 has a lot of life left in her yet.

Thanks so much for the heads up! I didn't know that Odin Sphere and Disgaea are scheduled for a Greatest Hits release.

After FIVE (!) years of its release Disgaea will become a Greatest Hits title, a surprise for sure. This policy doesn't make sense to me.

bcks007
08-29-2008, 04:33 AM
lendelin, did you get Shepherd’s Crossing already? If so, i would love to know the slus for it please.

For those 2 new GH games coming out, i also heard that Okami and Maximo vs. Army of Zin, will also be a GH on or around the same time both those other 2 GH games come out. I guess i should do some fact checking, just going off what the word was when news of disgaea and odin spread around.
Maximo vs. Army of Zin is pretty old too.

bcks007
09-05-2008, 07:10 AM
lendelin, I noticed from your topic for all the ps2 rpgs you own, that the The Legend of Alon D'ar was a tad different then i had seen before. Is that a sticker on the case? or is that on the plastic if its still sealed? If its not a sticker, is it part of the artwork? This is a game i don't own yet, so im just making sure it doesn't have variants. Also what does the yellow circle thing say?


Also i didn't see any pictures for,
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness,
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits,
Baroque,
Falling Stars,
Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon. Special Edition,
Romancing SaGa,
Shepherd’s Crossing,
Unlimited Saga.

Plus, .hack//G.U. Vol. 1//Rebirth, and Growlanser: Generations, the normal versions.

bcks007
09-13-2008, 02:16 AM
lendelin, did you die? :p

I went to a few stores today, and saw greatest hits for Okami, Maximo vs. Army of Zin, and Disgaea... :) Still did not see Odin Sphere (GH) yet. I almost bought disgaea and okami (GH), but instead went with a few cheap ps2 games and Yakuza 2. :)

LiquidPolicenaut
09-13-2008, 10:32 AM
Well, apparently, we can add one more game to this list...Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. According to The MagicBox, Square Enix decided to finally release the game here in the US and it will be released Q4 2008. I've always wanted to play the 3D remake of this but was losing hope that it would ever be released here. Thank you SE! I now have this and Persona 4 to play through in December :)

lendelin
09-14-2008, 07:17 AM
:moon:
lendelin, did you die? :p

I went to a few stores today, and saw greatest hits for Okami, Maximo vs. Army of Zin, and Disgaea... :) Still did not see Odin Sphere (GH) yet. I almost bought disgaea and okami (GH), but instead went with a few cheap ps2 games and Yakuza 2. :)


Sorry to respond so late but I'm out of the country (in Germany, at home where I enjoy very much long missed GERMAN FOOD :) ) I'll answer the questions when I'm back in a couple of days.... btw I have Shepherd's Crossing and Falling Stars)

lendelin
09-18-2008, 06:02 AM
lendelin, did you die? :p

I went to a few stores today, and saw greatest hits for Okami, Maximo vs. Army of Zin, and Disgaea... :) Still did not see Odin Sphere (GH) yet. I almost bought disgaea and okami (GH), but instead went with a few cheap ps2 games and Yakuza 2. :)


Added to the Greatest Hits list:

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

Let me know when you see the GH version of Odin Sphere...unfortunately Sony doesn't update their official GH list anymore for some time now

lendelin
09-18-2008, 06:08 AM
lendelin, did you get Shepherd’s Crossing already? If so, i would love to know the slus for it please.


I'm back stuffed like a Turkey with good German food. :)

The SLUS for Shepherd's Crossing is 21798; for Falling Stars it is 21734.

lendelin
09-18-2008, 06:41 AM
lendelin, I noticed from your topic for all the ps2 rpgs you own, that the The Legend of Alon D'ar was a tad different then i had seen before. Is that a sticker on the case? or is that on the plastic if its still sealed? If its not a sticker, is it part of the artwork? This is a game i don't own yet, so im just making sure it doesn't have variants. Also what does the yellow circle thing say?

I bought it used and the sticker is on the case, not on the shrinkwrap. It is not a variant. Usually I remove stickers; but this one 'belongs' to the game from the publisher Ubisoft and for the sake of authenticity I left it on the case.

The sticker says "RPG Giveaway!" and I suspect every game had it because it refers to a foldout ad in the case. The ad is a 'buy 2, get 1 free' deal. If you bought two games from the three titles Grandia II, Jade Cocoon 2, or Alon d'Ar, you got the third one for free by sending in a proof of purchase.

If the other two titles had it I can't say for sure since I bought them used. I checked my copies and none of them had the sticker or the ad in the case.



Also i didn't see any pictures for,
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness,
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits,
Baroque,
Falling Stars,
Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon. Special Edition,
Romancing SaGa,
Shepherd’s Crossing,
Unlimited Saga.

Plus, .hack//G.U. Vol. 1//Rebirth, and Growlanser: Generations, the normal versions.

I didn't purchase yet Baroque and Innocent Life. I have Falling Stars and Shepherd's Crossing but didn't post the pics yet; but all the other games are there.

dot hack doesn't have a standard version. The game in the deluxe set is identical with the standard version; therefore I didn't post a pic of the game case. (the only game in a deluxe set different from the standard version is FF XII, if you have the deluxe sets for the other titles you don't need to bother with another purchase)

We have to clear up Growlanser Generations. If the labels of the two discs are different and exclusive to the stand-alone game and the game in the set then we'd have indeed two versions for this game. I'll post pics of the labels soon and maybe we can answer this question.

lendelin
09-18-2008, 06:54 AM
Well, apparently, we can add one more game to this list...Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. According to The MagicBox, Square Enix decided to finally release the game here in the US and it will be released Q4 2008. I've always wanted to play the 3D remake of this but was losing hope that it would ever be released here. Thank you SE! I now have this and Persona 4 to play through in December :)

Thanks for the heads up!

Update of upcoming releases:

Eternal Poison (November, includes soundtrack CD, a strategy RPG)
Ar Tonelico 2 (December)
SMT Persona 4 (December, includes soundtrack CD)
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories

Oobgarm
09-18-2008, 10:02 AM
Let me know when you see the GH version of Odin Sphere...unfortunately Sony doesn't update their official GH list anymore for some time now

Go ahead and add it. We got some at Best Buy, streeted for 9/11 for some reason. I didn't know they were streeting their GH re-releases.

lendelin
09-18-2008, 01:52 PM
Go ahead and add it. We got some at Best Buy, streeted for 9/11 for some reason. I didn't know they were streeting their GH re-releases.

Thanks for the heads up! I added Odin Sphere to the GH list. Could you confirm the SLUS number (21577GH) since I don't have the GH version?

Oobgarm
09-19-2008, 06:12 AM
Yep. One of the first things I looked at, actually.

lendelin
10-06-2008, 09:00 PM
Interesting: Mana Khemia will be re-released as a stand-alone game on October 28. Amazon presents it as a new release. (seen here Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Mana-Khemia-Alchemists-Al-Revis-Playstation-2/dp/B001E7MMOK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1223340065&sr=1-5)) I'll make a note of that in the list for deluxe sets.

As a rehash - these titles will come out in November and December:

Eternal Poison. Flight-Plan, Atlus, 11/11/08.
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4. Atlus, Atlus, 12/9/08.
Ar Tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica. Gust, NIS America, 12/9/08.

Each of them comes with a soundtrack CD. Ar Tonelico 2 has additionally an artbook. All of them seem to be sold in regular cases.

Pre-order bonus items are offered by Rosenqueen for Ar Tonelico 2 (additional soundtrack CD and additional artbook) and by Amazon for Eternal Poison (artbook).

So far I haven't seen guides for these games. While SMT Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 didn't receive a guide, Devil Summoner, Nocturne, and Persona 3 got guides from Doublejump. There is no scheduled guide for Persona 4.

lendelin
10-08-2008, 01:58 PM
Just a heads up.

Baroque for the PS2 is sold by Amazon (Deal of the Day) for $16.98. The Wii version goes for the same price.

LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Baroque-Playstation-2/dp/B0011GBJO8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1223488525&sr=1-2)

Might be a general price drop to $20. If you can find it at Gamestop used and use the 20% coupon plus 10% edge card it is even cheaper.

...but $17 for a new game of this kind is certainly a good deal.

Press_Start
10-08-2008, 02:13 PM
As a rehash - these titles will come out in November and December:

Eternal Poison. Flight-Plan, Atlus, 11/11/08.
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4. Atlus, Atlus, 12/9/08.
Ar Tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica. Gust, NIS America, 12/9/08.

Each of them comes with a soundtrack CD. Ar Tonelico 2 has additionally an artbook. All of them seem to be sold in regular cases.

Pre-order bonus items are offered by Rosenqueen for Ar Tonelico 2 (additional soundtrack CD and additional artbook) and by Amazon for Eternal Poison (artbook).

Interesting. Are they pre-order offers available at GameStop? Or are the bonuses given by these websites only?

Links would be appreciated. Thanks ;)

Aussie2B
10-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Eternal Poison and Persona 4 both have soundtracks and artbooks. The CDs are in the packages, while the artbooks are pre-order bonuses. Atlus says the bonuses are available from Amazon, GameStop/EB, and Game Crazy.

With Ar Tonelico, you get a CD and artbook in the packaging, but you can get an extra soundtrack from Rosenqueen. Rosenqueen is the only option for that one. They say it's limited to so-so copies, so if you want it, sooner would probably be better than later. I assume the soundtrack is just some item previously available to Japanese consumers. Kinda silly having two soundtracks, though. I don't know why they can't just make one album with all the tracks from the game.

Thanks for the heads up on Baroque, I think I may go for that.

EDIT: The PS2 version of Baroque is showing up as $34.99 for me. o_O Maybe they already blew through however many they were offering at the discount?

lendelin
10-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Eternal Poison and Persona 4 both have soundtracks and artbooks. The CDs are in the packages, while the artbooks are pre-order bonuses. Atlus says the bonuses are available from Amazon, GameStop/EB, and Game Crazy.

Yep, the three games come all standard with soundtrack CDs, and Ar Tonelico 2 comes standard with an additional artbooklet. (probably just in the regular case)


With Ar Tonelico, you get a CD and artbook in the packaging, but you can get an extra soundtrack from Rosenqueen. Rosenqueen is the only option for that one. They say it's limited to so-so copies, so if you want it, sooner would probably be better than later. I assume the soundtrack is just some item previously available to Japanese consumers. Kinda silly having two soundtracks, though. I don't know why they can't just make one album with all the tracks from the game.

As I understood the Rosenqueen pre-order bonus items for Ar Tonelico 2 include an additional soundtrack (I agree, kinda silly to have two soundtracks), but I also thought it comes with an additional artbooklet besides the standard one...which would make it two soundtracks and two artbooklets.

LINK ROSENQUEEN (http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=271&HS=1)

Quote Rosenqueen: "12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection."

Is that a separate artbook? or an extended version of the artbook in the game? or even on the CD? When I read these pre-order stuff I feel like an idiot. :) Either I don't understand it, or they are intentionally vague in order to boost sales.

If someone gets TWO soundtracks and TWO artbooklets it certainly saves the trip to a symphony or the Chicago Art Museum. :)


Thanks for the heads up on Baroque, I think I may go for that.

EDIT: The PS2 version of Baroque is showing up as $34.99 for me. o_O Maybe they already blew through however many they were offering at the discount?

Sorry you missed it. But it might come back even a bit cheaper in a couple of days or weeks. I missed Innocent Life for $17 from Amazon, but I'm sure that one will be offered for the same price again soon.

lendelin
10-09-2008, 02:56 PM
Interesting. Are they pre-order offers available at GameStop? Or are the bonuses given by these websites only?

Links would be appreciated. Thanks ;)

For the link to Rosenqueen (Ar Tonelico 2) see post above, and here is the link to Amazon's pre-order for Eternal Poison:LINK (http://www.amazon.com/Eternal-Poison-Playstation-2/dp/B001DT8FUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1223576288&sr=1-1)

lendelin
10-11-2008, 06:26 AM
Just an update of the scheduled releases for this year:

I thought the GBA remake of Kingdom Hearts will be released in 2009, but Amazon and IGN have a release date of December 2.

Besides Eternal Poison, Ar Tonelico 2 and SMT Persona 4 we'll get also this year

Kingdom Hearts RE: Chain of Memories. Square Enix, Square Enix, 12/2/08.

Slowly I really think the RPG floodgates for the PS2 will never close. :)

slip81
10-11-2008, 07:13 AM
Do we have a "best of" list for PS2 RPGs yet floating around here?

Aussie2B
10-11-2008, 12:34 PM
As I understood the Rosenqueen pre-order bonus items for Ar Tonelico 2 include an additional soundtrack (I agree, kinda silly to have two soundtracks), but I also thought it comes with an additional artbooklet besides the standard one...which would make it two soundtracks and two artbooklets.

LINK ROSENQUEEN (http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=271&HS=1)

Quote Rosenqueen: "12 pages of full color art booklet that aren't in Official Art Collection."

Is that a separate artbook? or an extended version of the artbook in the game? or even on the CD? When I read these pre-order stuff I feel like an idiot. :) Either I don't understand it, or they are intentionally vague in order to boost sales.

If someone gets TWO soundtracks and TWO artbooklets it certainly saves the trip to a symphony or the Chicago Art Museum. :)

Sounds to me that they're talking about the insert in the bonus soundtrack. So, yeah, they're being vague and REALLY stretching the definition of an "art book" to make it seem like people are getting more than they really will. I mean, if we were talking Atlus, we might just get a disc in a generic slipcase, but in general I expect a soundtrack to have an insert which should have a few pieces of art. I don't personally consider that a bonus beyond the soundtrack itself.

Trebuken
10-11-2008, 04:45 PM
Just an update of the scheduled releases for this year:

I thought the GBA remake of Kingdom Hearts will be released in 2009, but Amazon and IGN have a release date of December 2.

Besides Eternal Poison, Ar Tonelico 2 and SMT Persona 4 we'll get also this year

Kingdom Hearts RE: Chain of Memories. Square Enix, Square Enix, 12/2/08.

Slowly I really think the RPG floodgates for the PS2 will never close. :)

Sony has been kind with the RPG's. The PS1, the PS2, and the PSP have all been great systems for RPG's. So when will the PS3 get some more love? They need to keep up with the PS2 until the PS3 steps up its game...

Aussie2B
10-11-2008, 06:06 PM
I don't know, beyond the PS1 ports, I don't really see the PSP as being that spectacular in terms of RPGs. But that's a whole 'nother topic altogether.

Seems like the 360 is getting most of the next-gen RPGs these days. And DS is getting most of the handheld stuff.

Gabriel
10-12-2008, 02:19 PM
Anyone know anything about Eternal Poison?

I've been more than a bit underwhelmed by the tactical RPG offerings of late. I'm just happy I didn't buy Spectral Force 3, Operation Darkness, or Zoids Assault for the 360 based on how bad I'm hearing those three ended up. Eternal Poison looks interesting, but could be just as lame as the three listed above. If it's going to be another disappointment, I'd rather not waste the $40. But, by the same token, I don't want to miss a game I might really enjoy.

lendelin
10-17-2008, 07:49 PM
I 'googled' websites for lists of PS2 RPGs in order to see if our list is still the best out there. Well, it is.

I am used to cheap cut-and-paste jobs from our list claiming that it is actually the work of others, but this one on ebay from electricquarter bothered me:

LINK (http://reviews.ebay.com/Current-list-of-all-PS2-RPG-games-US-Release_W0QQugidZ10000000001471076?ssPageName=BUYG D:CAT:-1:SEARCH:4)

It is a cut-and-paste from 2006 when the list was in its infancy. It just bothers me that it has so many views, and comes pretty high up on a google search; and the "I've compiled this list.." bothered me as well.

I made then 'my own' list on ebay based on ours given Digitalpress members the credit they deserve with links to our site. I posted the main list only to give incentives to visit the digitalpress site:

LINK (http://reviews.ebay.com/RPG-List-for-the-PS2_W0QQugidZ10000000009075598)

This ebay list under my name comes higher up on Google than ours here on Digitalpress. That's why I did it, and also...well...just because of my irking feelings. :)

slip81
10-18-2008, 07:44 AM
"electricquarter" Isn't there a member here who runs an online game store by the same name?

lendelin
10-18-2008, 11:48 PM
"electricquarter" Isn't there a member here who runs an online game store by the same name?

This might be, and I also remember vaguely that there is a DP member "consulting" this ebay business.

To make my point clear: I know that the Internet lives from nonsense as much as from intelligent stuff, and it is also a broad heterogenious mixture from outright honesty to outright scams. In this cultural atmosphere "shamelessness" seems to be a very minor (almost neglectible) aspect of virtual life.

I, however (and this might be my age) still find it shameless to take credit of the work of others. To deliver a cheap cut-and-paste job and then have no shame to say "I've compiled this list..." is just a plain lie, cheap, and something I would never do. At least the source of the work should be mentioned, and the nice effort of others shouldn't be misrepresented as an own labor of love.

To have shame might be antiquated, but I still stand by it.

bcks007
10-19-2008, 06:26 AM
I picked up X-Men: The Official Game recently, in the back of the manual it has pictures for 2 games its advertising, first was Ultimate Spider-Man (GH), which i checked online for, and finally found it really has a GH version, was a bit tricky to find, but it does exist.
The other game being X-Men Legends II (GH), I've yet to find a copy of this game in GH form yet. But there is a chance this does exist.:snipersmile:

lendelin
10-19-2008, 02:49 PM
The other game being X-Men Legends II (GH), I've yet to find a copy of this game in GH form yet. But there is a chance this does exist.:snipersmile:

I saw around a year ago either an advertisement or a pictured GH version of X-Men Legends II and Dragon Quest VIII. I made a note about it, but I couldn't find GH versions of both games! It seems they might have been scheduled as GH but weren't released.

Too bad that the official GH list by Sony hasn't been updated for over a year. If you find the GH versions of both games then shout, scream, and trampel with your feet so we can update the list!!

refan
10-22-2008, 09:28 PM
I love games with cardboard boxes!!!!

lendelin
10-24-2008, 05:15 PM
Just a heads up from the weekly Gamestop ad from today:

Gamestop dropped the price for Baroque (new) to $20 ... just in case you missed out on the Amazon daily deal for $17 two weeks ago. Amazon sells it still for $30.

Used with your 10% edge card it is certainly cheaper. Unfortunately, there is no '20% off for all used games'-coupon this week for GS.

bcks007
10-25-2008, 04:32 AM
Do you know if the Ar tonelico 2, and all its goodies are still available from http://www.rosenqueen.com/?
By goodies i mean all the extra free stuff that will not come with the game unless pre-ordered from that site. The site says only 2,000 of the goodies will be made.
Help me out, i really wanna get this at a decent price and not on ebay later on for a very bad price. :(

Aussie2B
10-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Yeah, it's right there. The "Sacred Army Set". All you get extra is a second soundtrack, though, with an insert with some art that they're playing out to be an additional art book.

bcks007
10-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Yeah i get that it listed at that site, duh. I don't get if i happen to make a order, if im going to get everything in that set. Cause surely 2000 pre-orders for this has happened already, or maybe it hasn't. Thats the part i wanted to know.....

lendelin
10-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Yeah i get that it listed at that site, duh. I don't get if i happen to make a order, if im going to get everything in that set. Cause surely 2000 pre-orders for this has happened already, or maybe it hasn't. Thats the part i wanted to know.....

My limited experience with Rosenqueen but more importantly the extensive experience of others tells us that you'll get it as long as they offer it. If pre-orders exceed the supply they pull the offer immediately.

Was the same with Mana Khemia with the figurine in the box. After four days the offer was over, and I didn't hear anyone complain they didn't get the pre-order.

...so you can pre-order it without uncertainty.

lendelin
10-25-2008, 07:19 PM
I added to the introduction of the list in the OP a short list of upcoming releases with release dates. This way you have a nice overwiew what to expect for the next two months.

I think this is a better way then to look for a post in the thread.

Aussie2B
10-26-2008, 01:58 AM
Yeah, if I remember correctly, it's listed as "Out of Stock" once the supply runs out, and then they'll likely put up pre-orders for just the game without the extra soundtrack.

lendelin
11-01-2008, 03:02 PM
I have questions about cover variants:

I know (or better strongly suspect) that SMT Digital Devil Saga 2 has two covers, the yellow one and the white one. Is this true or is the cover just dual sided? (mine is still sealed so I can't check)

More importantly, does someone of you know if there are more PS2 RPGs with cover variants? (of the standard versions, not for the games already in the special lists, that means for the special edition of FF XII, and the seven games in regular cases with extra content that have mostly two different back covers)

...and also I'd like to know if there are disc label variants and/or manual variants for the games listed. (Growlanser Generations has disc label variants, maybe(!) divided into the deluxe set and standard version) Are there other games?

carlcarlson
11-01-2008, 04:35 PM
DDS 2 does have a double-sided cover. The back image is the same on both.

bcks007
11-02-2008, 01:01 AM
Picked up some new rpgs recently.

Shifters
Chaos Wars
Eternal Eyes (ps1)
The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Final Fantasy XI: Chains of Promathia (don't even own ff11 with HD yet) ROFL
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
King's Field (ps1)
Xenosaga Limited Edition Movie DVD (not a game, but nice) :angel:
Dark Cloud 2
.hack//G.U. vol. 3//Redemption
Falling Stars

lendelin
11-02-2008, 01:47 PM
DDS 2 does have a double-sided cover. The back image is the same on both.

Does this mean it has different covers (the yellow one and white one) on the two sides? I'm interested if the cover is just dual sided with two different covers (like for Stella Deus, Growlanser Generations, and Magna Carta) or if there are two separate cover variants for the game.

carlcarlson
11-02-2008, 02:09 PM
Does this mean it has different covers (the yellow one and white one) on the two sides? I'm interested if the cover is just dual sided with two different covers (like for Stella Deus, Growlanser Generations, and Magna Carta) or if there are two separate cover variants for the game.

I'm not sure I understand the difference between those two examples, but either way yes, one side has the yellow cover, the other has the white.

lendelin
11-02-2008, 02:20 PM
I'm not sure I understand the difference between those two examples, but either way yes, one side has the yellow cover, the other has the white.

Thanks a lot! Well, there was the possibility that the game was sold with two different covers individually; not dual-sided, but sold in two cover variants.

Thanks again for checking!

lendelin
11-02-2008, 02:24 PM
For all of you who are not interested in special editions and missed out on Mana Khemia:

The game got re-released as a stand-alone game for $19.99. Amazon (no taxes, free shipping on orders over $25) has it already in stock.

Electric Blue
11-03-2008, 01:33 PM
[QUOTE=lendelin;1455583]I have questions about cover variants:

I know (or better strongly suspect) that SMT Digital Devil Saga 2 has two covers, the yellow one and the white one. Is this true or is the cover just dual sided? (mine is still sealed so I can't check)
[QUOTE]

I have a related question. Are there sealed copies of DDS2 that display both sides of the cover? I own 3 sealed copies of DDS2, and they all have the same side of the cover (I'm at work but I believe it's the "yellow" side that's referred here).

lendelin
11-05-2008, 01:06 AM
I have a related question. Are there sealed copies of DDS2 that display both sides of the cover? I own 3 sealed copies of DDS2, and they all have the same side of the cover (I'm at work but I believe it's the "yellow" side that's referred here).

My sealed copy has the yellow cover as well. I never saw a sealed one with the white cover.

lendelin
11-08-2008, 06:06 PM
I got lucky and found a copy (new) of Xenosaga III with the Best Buy exclusive lenticular cover. I put pics up of it in the picture section. The only missing picture of all the edition variants is now the little Inuyasha trading card.

The Xenosaga III cover variant is the hardest to find of the edition variants, and not easily to find for a decent normal price.

First it was only distributed by Best Buy for a limited time, and second lots of gamers probably threw the thingie away because it is just a removeable cover on top of the regular cover.

So...if you find it someplace used...grab it! :)

bcks007
11-09-2008, 02:41 AM
You still need Growlanser: Generations Deluxe Pack and Growlanser: Generations, game disc pictures for sure. :)
Wish i owned either one.

Press_Start
11-09-2008, 05:52 PM
I got lucky and found a copy (new) of Xenosaga III with the Best Buy exclusive lenticular cover. I put pics up of it in the picture section. The only missing picture of all the edition variants is now the little Inuyasha trading card.

The Xenosaga III cover variant is the hardest to find of the edition variants, and not easily to find for a decent normal price.

First it was only distributed by Best Buy for a limited time, and second lots of gamers probably threw the thingie away because it is just a removeable cover on top of the regular cover.

So...if you find it someplace used...grab it! :)

Found one at my local Play n' Trade for $15 along with Shadowhearts: Covenant and Front Mission 3.

I'm curious how many of these were distributed?

lendelin
11-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Found one at my local Play n' Trade for $15 along with Shadowhearts: Covenant and Front Mission 3.

I'm curious how many of these were distributed?

You're lucky, congrats, it is more worth for sure (I'd say around $50). No idea how many were distributed.

It was a Best Buy exclusive, and around a year ago I let one of my local Best Buys check the availability. None of the stores in Wisconsin had one, none online.

I got mine yesterday from Best Buy directly. I never check or hunt games regularly (I'm too lazy), but a week ago I looked for the variant on ebay, one (new) was offered for $95.

Because I was in a good mood I checked Best Buy against all odds. I hadn't seen the thing in a year offered. To my surprise it was listed for $20...so I ordered it. It was unclear if they still sold it with the special cover, I didn't really expect it, otherwise I would have posted the info in this thread. Already two days after I ordered it wasn't listed anymore. Yesterday I got it and indeed it was the lenticular cover variant. Obviously a small number of rest stock appeared.

Sometimes, I guess, everyone gets lucky.

lendelin
11-10-2008, 01:36 AM
You still need Growlanser: Generations Deluxe Pack and Growlanser: Generations, game disc pictures for sure. :)
Wish i owned either one.

Ok, I have the pics for some time now. BUT before I post them in the pic section something needs to be cleared up.

IMPORTANT:

I would ask all of you who have GROWLANSER GENERATIONS if you could check your game discs!

The reason is that it might be that the disc label variations are exclusive to the deluxe edition and the standard edition. If this is the case, then we would have indeed a different game from the standard version in the deluxe set and it should be noted in the special listing.

Here are the disc label variations:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/lendelin/DP%20UPLOADS/GrowlanserGenerations-27DiscsUPLOAD.jpg

In the lower left corner is the SLUS number for each disc. Logically according to the SLUS number for the game, Disc 1 and 2 should be one set, and Disc 3 and 4 should be one set.

Could you please check your discs and tell us which ones you have, and (very important) if you bought the stand alone game or if you got the game in the deluxe set? Also important is if you tell us if you bought the game used or new! (used it might be that the discs got mixed up, or the game was taken out of the deluxe set.)

This would help a lot! Two people who bought the standard edition new and two people who bought the deluxe set new would be enough to clarify if the game in the deluxe set had exclusive labels different from the standard version. However, information about used games is also helpful!

...and if you're very accurate about your games, you can check now if disc labels got mixed up if you bought the game used. Disc 1 and 2 belong together, and so does Disc 3 and 4. If you got 1 and 4, or 2 and 3, then the discs got mixed up.