Most expensive system to collect for.

[bangtango]

Neuro:

On the contrary, I lurked enough to find that some people brag about their game collection to make up for other things lacking in their lives. Kind of like something who drives a big truck or fast car.

"Jason":
The only thing post count shows is that someone happens to stick around. I see people with thousands of posts who make pointless claims, much worse than you claim I do.

[AB Positive]

Hands down, Atari 2600 hardest in the USA, and Neo Geo most expensive.

You know, I think this is the best statement put in this thread, humbling even my own self. I still think AES would cost more, but 2600 would have to be the hardest by far. Never even though of that.

-AB+

[portnoyd]

Neuro:

On the contrary, I lurked enough to find that some people brag about their game collection to make up for other things lacking in their lives. Kind of like something who drives a big truck or fast car.

"Jason":
The only thing post count shows is that someone happens to stick around. I see people with thousands of posts who make pointless claims, much worse than you claim I do.

So you come out of the shadows to be a troll. Way to go.

[odyeiop]

This is exactly why one should lurk when joining a new board.
=D


I've only really collected through eBay thus far, as I haven't really established people here (Ontario) that I can trade with. So I can't really say what's the hardest to get so far. Although sounds like Neo-Geo wins =P

[PapaStu]

The trouble with this board is that people tend to believe anyone who has been here less than a month or is under 100 posts has nothing to contribute, which shows your arrogance. Why else would you need to list the number of games you own x_x Get over yourself.

The trouble with this board is that we see far to many people that just spout off and really don't contribute anything to the argument, or even bring anything new to the table. Many of those posters happen to be newer ones. It tends to get pretty old after a while when your getting called out by another newer forum member over something you have as well. If you don't see this board jumping on that person like a rabid dog then you should take it as true in the claims department. We're nothing if not vicious in those regards.

Ya ever think to the fact that he listed the number of games he owns, to show he has a basis to why he thinks system x or y is expensive to collect for?

To stay on topic, I'd think that AES only because the sheer number of $1k games. Those beat out alot of those 50-60buck a pop 2600 games. However i'm not a collector of either system yet.

[AB Positive]

This question was just posted at AA a while back with surprising results:

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=84534

whaddya know, AA seems to think the AES is spendier to collect for as well.

-AB+

[s1lence]

I'm getting in a little late on the subject, but I'm going to agree that the AES is the most expensive with out a question. I personally own a AES system but I don't have any games for it due to the cost.

[ProgrammingAce]

Not that it'll tip the hat over the neo, but the Halcyon is also an expensive beast. Every game for the system usually sells for over $1000 and the system itself is a few grand... unfortunately there are only 2 games for it.

[smokehouse]

DreamTR:This may not be AtariAge but there is still a very healthy Atari bias on this board.

I don’t normally get into these kinds of debates but I can say this is a very fair board. There isn’t much blatant fanboyism plaguing DP. Sure, everybody has a favorite system but I rarely gets annoying.

[DreamTR]

Orrimarko: I made the Air Raid remark based on what a fellow collector said about where the cart came from ;) I think he was only "half" kidding LOL

bangtango: I do not go crazy showing off pictures of my stuff. This is what I mean by you being a hypocrite, because obviously you are going back on what you are saying.

Point for you to take: You just told me to post pics of my Neo collection. I don't even have pictures of my place in Room of Doom if you have not noticed. I told you if you wanted proof, check in this month's VGC. SImple as that. YOu challenged me on if I had this stuff, I pointed you towards members of the board that saw my place when I had less than 8,000 games. I did not reveal the exact number of games I have. I did that specifically in the thread that talks ABOUT how many games each person has.

You told me I don't know what I am talking about with 1,000 or so posts, then you come back about trying to take pity on someone who "does" know what they are talking about with less than a month on this board?

I mean, come on. This is the ultimate in madness If I do say so.

YOu think people are lacking by showing off their stuff? Do you not seem to understand that is WHAT this board is for? Packrat collectors? We don't need someone like you to come on here acting like you are a genius then berate people for showing off their stuff. I don't even SHOW OFF my stuff, but you tried to sneak in the fact that we are using how many games one has to make up for the fact we are missing something in our lives?

That's pretty belittling and offensive to many members on this board, and I am pretty sure everyone is being nice by not taking what you say out of context too much and giving you the benefit of the doubt.

You presume to know thing about me, but in actuality, you know nothing about me, or the members of this board. This is supposed to be a proper discussion, if you have no points to make, and keep crushing your own counterpoints, it's best for you to stay out of the thread.

[Adol]

No,i sold Kizuna for $700 at that time,which was a good price,and 1 year later,i traded Ultimate 11 for a complete&mint Metal Slug 1 US ( which is still $2500 valuable..not up to those 2 babies,but at the time,Metal Slug was considered rarer and more interesting )

Nez,i got 1 Ultimate 11 from AUSTRALIA,so i don't see why you couldn't get one,like i did,from USA,you just had to buy from an Australian Seller

DreamTR: then,why paying thousands of $$ for a GOLD NWC,wheny ou can get a GREY one for way less?
for the color of the cart?this is even more stupid than a manual, an insert and a sticker :)
( no offense,i'm just bashing a little :)

[le geek]

No... still the Neo Geo really.

There's about 30 or so carts in the under $100 range. There's a good 80 more carts beyond that. Not too many fall in the 100-300 range, I'll venture a guess as to another 20.

That leaves another 30 at $300+ a cart, and around ten of those go for over a grand.

This is for the US versions

Then, there's the JP collection, and if you want the full complete set with the Euro titles, you're adding another 12,500 for just one cart.

That one cart could pay for the entire 2600 library, in all forms and in all languages. Period.

Nothing comes close to the Neo.

-AB+

Sorry AB,
I'm not sure "that one cart" would buy a complete US collection - cart only - of 2600 games. Add worldwide stuff and it's not even close.

Eli's Ladder
Air Raid
Video Life

are incredibly rare

Neo-Geo overall is the most expensive, but let's not get out of hand here...

Turbo if your counting US releases is easier and cheaper that 2600...

Cheers,
Ben

EDIT: Should have read more of the thread with breakfast! Looks like DreamTR nailed it with hardest vs expensive...

[orrimarrko]

Neuro:

On the contrary, I lurked enough to find that some people brag about their game collection to make up for other things lacking in their lives. Kind of like something who drives a big truck or fast car.

"Jason":
The only thing post count shows is that someone happens to stick around. I see people with thousands of posts who make pointless claims, much worse than you claim I do.

You're making friends fast here buddy.

Problem is, you didn't do enough homework with the people/person you've chosen to call out on this forum.

Not everyone posts just to post, some actually wait until they have something valuable to say.

Fact is, in this very thread you have at least two of the most prominent collectors of the whole site, and they know from what they speak.

You've decided to challenge one of them, first on knowledge, then second on his claims to owning what he says he does.

I haven't even seen the collection, but I can say with all honesty that if anyone on this board has what he says he does, its DreamTR.

Also, you need to remember that the entire site is mostly for game collectors to share information and to talk about their collections.

If that's not why you're here, I'm sure there are other sites you can hang out in.

No one doubted that you have nothing to contribute because you've been here only for a short while, it was just that you weren't contributing ANYTHING to this particular conversation. You were instigating, and no one really cares for that shiite 'round these parts.

Plus, you should really re-read as to why the word hypocritical was used. Your statement was illogical, but your implication WAS hypocritical.

You were saying that you shouldn't include boxes for the 2600 into the equation because people may not have kept them (certainly not in great shape), because there was no forthought to value down the road. Yet in the same statement, you said that due to the inital prices of the Neo games, people automatically kept the boxes and manuals. Therefore, complete 2600 games shouldn't be counted in the equation, but complete AES titles should. (??)

No. That is the whole point. The 2600 boxes are no less flimsy than any other cardboard boxes for other system libraries. Why not include them?

That's why the statement was hypocritical.

Compare loose to loose, boxed to boxed. That is the exact reason that the 2600 library in boxed form would give the Neo a run for it's money. I seem to recall a prominent 2600 collection selling for over $26,000 a few years back. I don't remember what was in the collection, but the dollar figure speaks for itself.

AES games are almost always found with their cases. That's true. But you need to compare apples with apples when it comes to value.

A loose AES cart would go for FAR less than a complete minty one. Just like a loose 2600 cart would go for much less than a complete minty one.

Discounting the 2600 games just because many can be found loose doesn't mean that the boxed ones shouldn't be considered in the system library value discussion.

[jcalder8]

For the most expensive system to collect for what if we look at the next generation of systems, I'm picking the PS3 just because it'll have the most number of games released for it. If we assume that the collector has decided to buy every game as soon as it comes out the cost would get pretty high pretty quickly. Also when you look at all the games from all the different regions the price would go up more. Then when you take into account that the PS3 will probably be able to play PS2 and possibly PS1 games to have the complete collection of all the games that the PS3 is capable of playing would be huge. I just thought that I would throw my 2 cents into the mix.

[DreamTR]

jcalder: I think it would suffice to say it would be that wya for ANY new system with games. Imagine those buying SNES games or XBOX 360 games, or ANYTHING new for that matter when it came out. I think a large percentage of collectors eventually start picking up games when they go down in price, and only pick up games they WANT to play as new. It makes no sense to pick up the sports titles now for any system (NCAA CB 2K3 for GCN an exception) because the value will go down tremendously. I still obtain a large selection of new titles from various sources upon release, and as soon as I get the sports games, they are out the door.

Adol: You're right about that, gold/gray argument. It is just a "color" variation, but it's still an NWC...and the NWC is around $2800-3000 in terms of assessed eBay value right now, whereas there has not been a gold up in awhile....I am sure it would hit $5000 pretty easily now, and that's a BIG chunk of change. It's a lot different than the Kizuna Enoucnter/Ultimate 11 thing because when you plug in the Japanese version of those games in a US home system, they come up in English mode, and that's my basis for not wanting those specific carts.

[Vectorman0]

This is a very interesting converstation so far, reagardless of the drama. Anyway, this has got me wondering. Since it seems that there isn't an agreed upon definitive most expensive system, why don't we try to agree on a value for the games of each system?


Also, one major flaw I see with this discussion is the assumption that all games are being bought at current market prices. If someone started collecting for their complete Atari 2600 collection twenty years ago, I would bet that they may pay less than someone would for a complete neo-geo collection today. Vice versa, and you would probably have the opposite.

[DreamTR]

The Neo Geo games have not really gone down much, if anything, they have increased, but they were expensive to begin with. Common ones (Samurau Showdown II, etc) can be had for less than retail, whereas it's random on Atari. A lot of the 1st party releases are $1-2 max, and a lot of the weird, unknown releases command big cash.

[Vectorman0]

The Neo Geo games have not really gone down much, if anything, they have increased, but they were expensive to begin with. Common ones (Samurau Showdown II, etc) can be had for less than retail, whereas it's random on Atari. A lot of the 1st party releases are $1-2 max, and a lot of the weird, unknown releases command big cash.

Yeah I know. I was really talking about getting ahold of rarer items, such as Metal Slug 1, Euro Kizuna, Eli's ladder, etc. before their current values had been realized. If you bought every Neo-Geo game on or around when they were released, you would probably be doing pretty well compared to what they go for today. As for Atari 2600, I'm not really sure.

It would be cool to compare the MSRP's of the two said collection against their current collectors values today.

[residentvania]

I never owned a NEOGEO but i remember back in the day when It came out. It was way more exspensive then genesis and snes. So i can see it being exspensive to buy now on ebay. Because i didn't know anyone who owned a NEOGEO. Which is probably the reason its so rare.

What is the sense of owning every game cart for a system???? I feel not all games are great. Why own something that flat out sucks just to have a complete NES, SNES,GENESIS, ATARI etc collection. Just makes no sense to me. I only buy what i like and leave the rest of the booty games for others.

I mean why would you own a copy of : Any of the bible games for NES.

8-)

[Nez]

I mean why would you own a copy of : Any of the bible games for NES.

8-)

To drown baby moses and laugh.

[ryborg]

And to balance a cow on top of a squirrel on top of a pig on top of a hummingbird on top of a haystack on top of a tree monkey on top of your head while loading up the ark.
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[Lozza]

I never owned a NEOGEO but i remember back in the day when It came out. It was way more exspensive then genesis and snes. So i can see it being exspensive to buy now on ebay. Because i didn't know anyone who owned a NEOGEO. Which is probably the reason its so rare.

What is the sense of owning every game cart for a system???? I feel not all games are great. Why own something that flat out sucks just to have a complete NES, SNES,GENESIS, ATARI etc collection. Just makes no sense to me. I only buy what i like and leave the rest of the booty games for others.

I mean why would you own a copy of : Any of the bible games for NES.

8-)

Owning all the games for an AES is a different thing, one day they will no longer exist, and you have them ALL. That's the point, and the fact that NeoGeo is probably the best system ever created.