Vididiots Arrested! Fined! (Page 8) NEW INFO 12/06

[NintendoMan]

Ship an empty box with DC.

Scammers who sell Fake Sealed games & scam Nintendo Man out of $220. They deserve to be reverse-scammed. Teach the S.O.B. a lesson.

Oh no, I didn't bid on this, luckily on do know what's going on with this guy and could tell they were re-sealed before we all started posting about this a couple months ago when he started doing this.

I always look at completed auctions and am very interested in what stuff goes for, I ran across this and remember this dude selling it, I had been wondering what he got for it? And shit, $220, that's more than most "REAL Factory Sealed" copies go for! It's a damn shame!
I have already notified ebay, as well as the FBI Link in this thread, the one I think bronty posted.
I suggest and hope everyone else who reads this has done the same.

[Mr.Faxanadu]

This truly upsets me as I now look at the sealed NES market as contaminated. I always enjoyed collecting these things but now I'm not so sure. I think if this continues, the market for sealed NES games will be really damaged and the value will go way down.

Unless this stops soon I think people are going to jump on this idea and start doing it themselves. I mean the guys making a killing! Once this happens, the market will be really gone :(

As for a possible solution, I remember a long time ago when I made a post asking for suggestions on how we can verify are sealed NES games are legit. I suggested taking detailed weights of each game and compiling a database as the material included within each box will as this would surely differ from game to game. Man, I got so flamed for this :) but I still think it's a valid idea..... although I see that Vididiots is just taking CIB games and resleaing them so it wouldn't really work in that case :(

I hope eBay does something about this!

[kevin_psx]

if this continues, the market for sealed NES games will be really damaged and the value will go way down.

It's not worth the effort. (1) Of what value does a sealed game have? It just sits there. (2) It might not be real. (3) Games are meant to be opened & played. If I can't play it-- I don't want it.

[mr_nihilism]

Its a shame. Hidden usernames too, cant contact them and warn them. Anything that can be done to stop this guy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8255873095#ebayphotohosting

The Mega Man 4 he won. You can see there is a fold in the manual. Tempted to buy it just to prove it.

Just a few weeks ago I won a few complete NES games off of that completenintendogames guy. One was missing the styrophome insert and the instruction booklet was re-stapled. Both boxes were in less than great shape. Oh well....

[Mr.Faxanadu]

if this continues, the market for sealed NES games will be really damaged and the value will go way down.

It's not worth the effort. (1) Of what value does a sealed game have? It just sits there. (2) It might not be real. (3) Games are meant to be opened & played. If I can't play it-- I don't want it.

Ahhhh yes, I miss this debate LOL Let's just leave it at some people like their games sealed and some don't :)

[kevin_psx]

Go watch Star Trek the Next Generation's "The Most Toys". It's about a collector who abducts Data simply because he's one-of-a-kind.


I can see the value of collecting a sealed game if it has an unusually beautiful cover. Then it's art.

But to just sit there & collect dust?

Nah. I had some old games collecting dust --never opened-- and I got rid of them. Now I can walk 'round my room w/o tripping over stuff. Gives me a feeling of freedom.

Plus $1000 more dollars. Woo-hoo! LOL

[Buyatari]

(3) Games are meant to be opened & played. If I can't play it-- I don't want it.

I call this the Pinnochio syndrome.

Games don't have any desire to be or not be played. They weren't meant to be played. You would think that most of the games sold were opened and played but they weren't meant to do anything. They were produced by a producer for one reason and that was to make money. They have since been sold and as far as the producer cares its on to the next one.

I collect sealed games and there is nothing like a game no one (outside the nintendo factory) has touched.

Collect what you like but don't tell me the game wants to be played or that sealed collectors (the honest ones) somehow do the hobby a disservice.

[NintendoMan]

(3) Games are meant to be opened & played. If I can't play it-- I don't want it.

I call this the Pinnochio syndrome.

Games don't have any desire to be or not be played. They weren't meant to be played. You would think that most of the games sold were opened and played but they weren't meant to do anything. They were produced by a producer for one reason and that was to make money. They have since been sold and as far as the producer cares its on to the next one.

I collect sealed games and there is nothing like a game no one (outside the nintendo factory) has touched.

Collect what you like but don't tell me the game wants to be played or that sealed collectors (the honest ones) somehow do the hobby a disservice.

I second, third, forth, fifth, everything just said by buyatari.
Sure, I open up play plenty of my games, but there are some for instance like NES, SNES, and N64 games, ones I really love, that I also try to get sealed.
There is also nothing like having a game, that's never been opened, that's over 20 years old, still in perfect shape.

There is all kinds of other things that people collect, that I would call bullshit stuff, but you know what, that's what they collect and understand why they do it and completely respect that to the fullest.

[NintendoMan]

This truly upsets me as I now look at the sealed NES market as contaminated. I always enjoyed collecting these things but now I'm not so sure. I think if this continues, the market for sealed NES games will be really damaged and the value will go way down.

Unless this stops soon I think people are going to jump on this idea and start doing it themselves. I mean the guys making a killing! Once this happens, the market will be really gone

Yes, he is making a killing on this. But unless ALL KINDS of people start doing this, which I don't think will happen anytime soon (Who knows though I may be wrong) I don't think it will hurt the market. I remember getting on ebay, way back in 2000 when I first joined, and people re-sealing games. Actually back then, there was a guy selling perfectly re-sealed games that I have been told that he seriouly probably made $50,000+, maybe alot more than that.

But anyways, this guy will eventually be stopped and hopefully we don't have any other dis-honest motherfuckers come on ebay doing this anytime soon.

[kevin_psx]

(3) Games are meant to be opened & played. If I can't play it-- I don't want it.
Collect what you like but don't tell me the game wants to be played or that sealed collectors (the honest ones) somehow do the hobby a disservice.

I did not say that.

Please. Don't put words in my mouth.

I said "I" in my previous message. "I" as in my own opinion about my own life & my own games. I did not say others can not collect sealed games.

[Griking]

Nah. I had some old games collecting dust --never opened-- and I got rid of them. Now I can walk 'round my room w/o tripping over stuff. Gives me a feeling of freedom.

Plus $1000 more dollars. Woo-hoo! LOL

But I tought you only made like $18 last year. LOL

[kevin_psx]

Now I can walk 'round my room w/o tripping over stuff. Gives me a feeling of freedom. Plus $1000 more dollars. Woo-hoo! LOL
But I tought you only made like $18 last year. LOL
$1000 - $980 originally spent = about $20 profit. ECON 101. Guess you never took that? LOL

Put another way-- Had about $980 tied up in games.
Exchanged them for around 1000 cash in the bank.

[Daria]

I thought this topic was about some asstard scam artist. Don't we have like a bajillion other threads devoted to the seal vs. unsealed debate already?

[wcmiker]

I thought this topic was about some asstard scam artist. Don't we have like a bajillion other threads devoted to the seal vs. unsealed debate already?

Well, how could you argue that he is not scamming people?

Part of the description of his Mega Man 4 auction:

FACTORY SEALED MEGA MAN 4!!!

This is MEGA MAN 4, a game for the Nintendo NES, which is still sealed in original shrinkwrap. This game is very difficult to find still in brand new condition.

As shown earlier in the thread, the game was not factory sealed, and consequently was not in its original shrinkwrap. The seller was fully aware of this fact, yet he still presented the item as being factory sealed. The buyer then receives an item they overpaid for because the seller purposely made a false claim about the item. That is a scam.

[Daria]

Well, how could you argue that he is not scamming people?


I never said that he wasn't.

[Damaramu]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

[mister_slug]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

The slug could be anywhere. You wouldn't want him reading things written about him on a public forum, now would you?

[MachineGex]

Here is his latest purchase:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8266486916&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Check out the question and answer section on the auction. @_@

[kainemaxwell]

Here is his latest purchase:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8266486916&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Check out the question and answer section on the auction. @_@

Great, so he bought Darth Vader's Stadium Events (and will likely reseal it somehow and rip more people off. Hope Vader reads this topic...

[Damaramu]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

The slug could be anywhere. You wouldn't want him reading things written about him on a public forum, now would you?

Get bent, cunt rag. -_-

[Daria]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

The slug could be anywhere. You wouldn't want him reading things written about him on a public forum, now would you?

Get bent, cunt rag. -_-

My tampons take offense to that remark.

[Damaramu]

To you Daria, I offer my humblest apologies. :angel:

[NintendoMan]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

Yeah, I saw him on before with the earlier thread of him re-sealing games, under NMORGAN, no doubt viewing the topic about him.

[kainemaxwell]

Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

Yeah, I saw him on before with the earlier thread of him re-sealing games, under NMORGAN, no doubt viewing the topic about him.
Good. Maybe the dickhead knows we're onto him and spreading the word about his actions. :angry:

[platygash]

Good news folks... I am in contact with a buyer who won this clown's "factory sealed" auctions... he is not happy and wants to open them up to bust this tool for fraud but is worried that he will be out of $$ if the game is infact legit...

I emailed him all the links of IDIOTS wins of the games the seller won as "factory sealed" as well with the shrinkwrapper and other auctions


Waiting back for his response... I told the guy if he did open the game and it was a legit sealed I am sure the community will chip in for his loss... not a worry because it is a reseal

[Griking]

Waiting back for his response... I told the guy if he did open the game and it was a legit sealed I am sure the community will chip in for his loss... not a worry because it is a reseal

Who is this "community" who's money you are offering to this guy?

[platygash]

Boy are you one miserable prick... maybe we should pool some$ together and get you some action... maybe then you wouldnt be such a SOB

[platygash]

the buyer is asking advice as what to do about opening the games... should he open them infront of the police... should he just open them at home and get it on video?

any help would be great

[jajaja]

Im also talking to a buyer who bought some sealed NES games, maybe the same guy? He filled out a complaint to IC3.gov.

For the opening of the games, i dont know if the police would take the time for a case like this. I would defenitly go to the police tho. Doesnt hurt to try.

[Darren870]

video tape it and compare every single inch of the one vividiots bought to the one he sealed and then this buyer bought. Noticable creases etc.

[Griking]

Boy are you one miserable prick... maybe we should pool some$ together and get you some action... maybe then you wouldnt be such a SOB

Hey, I'm more than happy to accept any $$$ you're willing to throw my way. Unless of course it's someone else's money you're offering again.

And as for being a SOB at least I'm not some wanna be nternet private eye getting myself involved in other people's business. And whether you're willing to admit it or not, what you're doing is every bit as much against eBay rules as what you're accusing the seller of these auctions of doing.

[kainemaxwell]

Good luck with that guy! Let us know how it turns out!

[NintendoMan]

Good news folks... I am in contact with a buyer who won this clown's "factory sealed" auctions... he is not happy and wants to open them up to bust this tool for fraud but is worried that he will be out of $$ if the game is infact legit...

I emailed him all the links of IDIOTS wins of the games the seller won as "factory sealed" as well with the shrinkwrapper and other auctions


Waiting back for his response... I told the guy if he did open the game and it was a legit sealed I am sure the community will chip in for his loss... not a worry because it is a reseal

Wow, been away all day, alot to read over in this thread!
Anyways, Platyglash, I think it's awesome what your doing and how much your helping in taking this kid down!!!!

I greatly appreciate it and hope people keep getting involved. I am also doing a couple things about contacting the buyers of those "sealed" games.

[NintendoMan]

And as for being a SOB at least I'm not some wanna be nternet private eye getting myself involved in other people's business. And whether you're willing to admit it or not, what you're doing is every bit as much against eBay rules as what you're accusing the seller of these auctions of doing.

I think it's fucking great what platygash is doing, as well as anyone else who has taken the time to makes complaints!
I am guessing you don't collect sealed games, or really am a collector in general. This dude needs to be taken down and hopefully gets in serious trouble, which is doubtful, but at least needs to be kicked off ebay and hopefully more.

And don't even bring up the crap about against ebay rules, I know it is, but it's completely irrelevant in this case. I too am in the process of getting ahold of the buyers of these sealed games, and hopefully we can get them to see they have re-sealed games. (It's obvious they don't know what sealed games really look like, they all so far have left positive's i think).

Here's the link to the buyers of the re-sealed games:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=vididiots

The "private" auctions are for his sealed N64 + NES games, and you can just sift through his feedback for the Re-Sealed PS2 games.

[NintendoMan]

Im also talking to a buyer who bought some sealed NES games, maybe the same guy? He filled out a complaint to IC3.gov.

For the opening of the games, i dont know if the police would take the time for a case like this. I would defenitly go to the police tho. Doesnt hurt to try.

AWESOME!!!!
I too am in the process of contacting EVERY buyer of the games that I can get a hold of.
I also don't think the police can do anything about this, definately the buyers need to get a hold ebay and file on the IC3.gov.com site! But your right, taking this to the police can't hurt either.

[NintendoMan]

https://tips.fbi.gov/

This is what I wrote. I urge you guys to do the same. Don't use the same text but include the same links which really show it all.


This is in reguards to a seller who is defrauding collectors on ebay. Attempts were made by several collectors to contact ebay. Ebay claims they are not experts but this is a clear cut case even a non-collector can determine.

Here is one example of a used game purchased by ebay user vididiots.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8255873095

Here he has the same game which he is now selling but look its NEW.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8266268134

If you notice the wear in the upper left corner this is the same game.
http://students.rwu.edu/dfrickel920/0d_1a.JPG

The user was contacted and has since made his auctions private to prevent us from contacting the potential buyers. Vintage video games are a new but growing collectable. Buyers are often willing to pay many times the going rate if it is factory sealed. Please help us do something and put a stop to this guy.

PEOPLE, here is the link again about reporting this to the FBI! Please do so, the more people that do, the better!

[NintendoMan]

I am in contact with the guy that won this game:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266268068

And here is the auction that vididiots set up for him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266631821

The guy who bought it paid $450 for it. Damn, $450 down the fucking toilet. I am hoping other people have found more on this or have also made some progress.

[Bronty-2]

Keep up the good work n-man

[Bronty-2]

Boy are you one miserable prick... maybe we should pool some$ together and get you some action... maybe then you wouldnt be such a SOB

Hey, I'm more than happy to accept any $$$ you're willing to throw my way. Unless of course it's someone else's money you're offering again.

And as for being a SOB at least I'm not some wanna be nternet private eye getting myself involved in other people's business. And whether you're willing to admit it or not, what you're doing is every bit as much against eBay rules as what you're accusing the seller of these auctions of doing.

If you're so hot for "rules" then why aren't you on vidiots about the "laws" he's breaking?

[Darren870]

I am in contact with the guy that won this game:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266268068

And here is the auction that vididiots set up for him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266631821

The guy who bought it paid $450 for it. Damn, $450 down the fucking toilet. I am hoping other people have found more on this or have also made some progress.

I tried contacting that guy but he never got back to me on the pm i sent him.

Hope you are having better luck then I am.

[Buyatari]

If you're so hot for "rules" then why aren't you on vidiots about the "laws" he's breaking?

I think the seller has to be member of DP and post a thread. THEN Griking will complain about him.

[Damaramu]

He's already posted in this thread twice, IIRC. :angry:

[evil_genius]

He's already posted in this thread twice, IIRC. :angry:

where? and wtf is IIRC?

[Kitsune Sniper]

He's already posted in this thread twice, IIRC. :angry:

where? and wtf is IIRC?

IIRC: If I Recall Correctly.

[Damaramu]

He's already posted in this thread twice, IIRC. :angry:

where? and wtf is IIRC?




Psst. He was on as mister_slug today, about 30 minutes ago. No doubt checking out this thread.

The slug could be anywhere. You wouldn't want him reading things written about him on a public forum, now would you?

[wcmiker]

Nice job NintendoMan. This kid needs to learn that fraud is unacceptable.

[Griking]

Boy are you one miserable prick... maybe we should pool some$ together and get you some action... maybe then you wouldnt be such a SOB

Hey, I'm more than happy to accept any $$$ you're willing to throw my way. Unless of course it's someone else's money you're offering again.

And as for being a SOB at least I'm not some wanna be nternet private eye getting myself involved in other people's business. And whether you're willing to admit it or not, what you're doing is every bit as much against eBay rules as what you're accusing the seller of these auctions of doing.

If you're so hot for "rules" then why aren't you on vidiots about the "laws" he's breaking?

Because its none of my business any more than it's any of your business. The only people who's business this is is the buyer, the seller and eBay. If a buyer isn't happy with a purchase they'll make it known with negative feedback (he's still at 99.6% BTW) and a report to eBay and/or Paypal on their own. It's again eBay's rules for me (or anyone else) to get involved in two other people's transactions and I prefer to obey those rules.

[Bronty-2]

Sorry I prefer laws over ebay rules. -_-

[kevin_psx]

Because its none of my business any more than it's any of your business. The only people who's business this is is the buyer, the seller and eBay.

When Griking sees some guy stealing a lady's purse-- he does nothing. After all "the only people who's business this is is the thief, lady and police." Griking just wwalks away.

What a fine moral character. Doesn't help protect his fellow citizens from thieves.
:angry:

[jajaja]

Because its none of my business any more than it's any of your business. The only people who's business this is is the buyer, the seller and eBay.

When Griking sees some guy stealing a lady's purse-- he does nothing. After all "the only people who's business this is is the thief, lady and police." Griking just wwalks away.

What a fine moral character. Doesn't help protect his fellow citizens from thieves.
:angry:

I agree. Its your duty to help if you can. Im not sure how to laws are, but if you know that someone is scamming people and you dont do anything about it you can get punishment i think. Its the same if you buy stolen goods, you can get jail for that.

[NintendoMan]

I am in contact with the guy that won this game:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266268068

And here is the auction that vididiots set up for him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266631821

The guy who bought it paid $450 for it. Damn, $450 down the fucking toilet. I am hoping other people have found more on this or have also made some progress.

I tried contacting that guy but he never got back to me on the pm i sent him.

Hope you are having better luck then I am.

Yes I am actually. I have luckily been able to email with him LOTS of times now. HE found this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8250216991

So I gurantee you that is the Zelda game that he purchased! I haven't been able to find any other complete Zelda's yet. But yes, I am making progress.

[NintendoMan]

Nice job NintendoMan. This kid needs to learn that fraud is unacceptable.

Of course I can respect someone collecting nes games, but when they re-seal them and is just completely unacceptable!

[jajaja]

One thing i noticed in a PS2 auction from this guy that is fucking crazy and funny hehe.


Do not be fooled by other auctioners who sell pirated versions of their games -- this is an official release, the real deal!!

@_@ LOL

[NintendoMan]

One thing i noticed in a PS2 auction from this guy that is fucking crazy and funny hehe.


Do not be fooled by other auctioners who sell pirated versions of their games -- this is an official release, the real deal!!

@_@ LOL

LOL , Holy shit, I read over that like 15 minutes ago. Am think the same thing.

[Griking]

Because its none of my business any more than it's any of your business. The only people who's business this is is the buyer, the seller and eBay.

When Griking sees some guy stealing a lady's purse-- he does nothing. After all "the only people who's business this is is the thief, lady and police." Griking just wwalks away.

What a fine moral character. Doesn't help protect his fellow citizens from thieves.
:angry:

Not a valid example. Last I checked it wasn't against any rules to defend an defenseless old lady who was being mugged. Besides, these people are freely handing their money to Vididiots, it's not being taken from them. And not only that, they're leaving positive feedback for him. Clearly the sign of a person being mugged. But I'm sure that will change as the personal crusades here convince a few buyers that they can get their product AND their money back if they simply leave negative feedback and cause a big stink with PayPal. Either that or someone will create another of the bogus eBay account that they're famous for and buy something from him just so they can leave negative feedback (something else that's against the rules btw).

[Buyatari]

You are right its not very close. Its more like the local gas station rigging the machine to pump $5.00 worth of gas when you pay for $10.00. If the public doesn't notice does that make it ok?

This is our area of expertise and by not doing something about it we are letting this little jerk both steal money and bring about the destruction of the hobby we all participate it. As was said before, he sells fakes to people who then turn around a resell. Who turn around a resell until they finally get sold to someone who knows they are fakes. This creates many future problems for many buyers and sellers. Its a pryamid scheme where SOMEONE gets left holding the bag and it isn't the one who started it.


Not a valid example. Last I checked it wasn't against any rules to defend an defenseless old lady who was being mugged. Besides, these people are freely handing their money to Vididiots, it's not being taken from them. And not only that, they're leaving positive feedback for him. Clearly the sign of a person being mugged. But I'm sure that will change as the personal crusades here convince a few buyers that they can get their product AND their money back if they simply leave negative feedback and cause a big stink with PayPal. Either that or someone will create another of the bogus eBay account that they're famous for and buy something from him just so they can leave negative feedback (something else that's against the rules btw).

[Darren870]

I am in contact with the guy that won this game:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266268068

And here is the auction that vididiots set up for him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8266631821

The guy who bought it paid $450 for it. Damn, $450 down the fucking toilet. I am hoping other people have found more on this or have also made some progress.

I tried contacting that guy but he never got back to me on the pm i sent him.

Hope you are having better luck then I am.

Yes I am actually. I have luckily been able to email with him LOTS of times now. HE found this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8250216991

So I gurantee you that is the Zelda game that he purchased! I haven't been able to find any other complete Zelda's yet. But yes, I am making progress.

Ask him to take some detailed pictures of the game of every corner and every nook etc. Im sure bronty or even you can spot the obv re-seal. Or maybe we can notice similar defects like I did with the mega man.

Someone make sure they copy that megaman image from mywebsite just in case it goes down. You never know, sadly

[NintendoMan]

Boy are you one miserable prick... maybe we should pool some$ together and get you some action... maybe then you wouldnt be such a SOB

Hey, I'm more than happy to accept any $$$ you're willing to throw my way. Unless of course it's someone else's money you're offering again.

And as for being a SOB at least I'm not some wanna be nternet private eye getting myself involved in other people's business. And whether you're willing to admit it or not, what you're doing is every bit as much against eBay rules as what you're accusing the seller of these auctions of doing.

If you're so hot for "rules" then why aren't you on vidiots about the "laws" he's breaking?

Because its none of my business any more than it's any of your business. The only people who's business this is is the buyer, the seller and eBay. If a buyer isn't happy with a purchase they'll make it known with negative feedback (he's still at 99.6% BTW) and a report to eBay and/or Paypal on their own. It's again eBay's rules for me (or anyone else) to get involved in two other people's transactions and I prefer to obey those rules.

I think you might know the dude that's doing it or something.
Ebay has bitch rules don't think they will do anything about it until who knows when. Please stop bringing up that crap about him having 99.6% positive feedback. Yeah it's true he does, but you know as well as I, that the people who are buying these games don't know shit about sealed ones. Also, he is selling alot of sealed games outside ebay and just ending his auction's early.

You sound pretty law obeyant then, so if there is a time at a stop sign where you don't fully stop, do you go to the police station right then and there and turn yourself in?
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything with you, I just can't see how you can constantly bring up the crap against ebay rules.
I hope you are emailing vididiots then every chance you get with"
Waaa, AGAINST EBAY RULES , the waaa and cry some more.

We have to put a stop to this pussy, sorry if you don't like the way some people are going about it.

[kevin_psx]

But I'm sure that will change as the personal crusades here convince a few buyers that they can get their product AND their money back if they simply leave negative feedback and cause a big stink with PayPal.

You make it sound like Vidiots is an honest seller who deserves every dollar he steals - - - uh, earns - from his resealed games.

Why are you defenindg Vidiots?

Hmmm.
Its more like the local gas station rigging the machine to pump $5.00 worth of gas when you pay for $10.00. If the public doesn't notice does that make it ok? No it's illegal. So are Vidiots actions. It's equal to taking a canceled stamp, washing it & then claiming it's a "brand-new" stamp"

[jonjandran]

Why is there even an argument here?

When ANYONE sees someone doing something illegal it is their moral and ethical and in this country "American" obligation to report it to the proper authorities.

Why is this even being questioned?

It doesn't matter what "rules" there are in a company either.

All of the corporate scandals that have happened lately should have proven to everyone that you can't hide behind the excuse " Well I was just following company policy".

Wrong is wrong, and illegal is illegal. Vidiots should and has been reported. It is the right thing to do. (notice the period :hmm: )

[Griking]

I think you might know the dude that's doing it or something.

Nope. Truthfully I never heard of the guy before the blowup about him here.


Please stop bringing up that crap about him having 99.6% positive feedback. Yeah it's true he does, but you know as well as I, that the people who are buying these games don't know shit about sealed ones.

So you're saying that all of his buyers "don't know shit" about something that they're willing to blindly pay hundreds of dollars for? Sorry, I don't buy it. When a person is going to spend that kind of money they need to do their research. I think you're stretching it a bit here looking for a reason to justify his good feedback rating. Besides, it's not like this guy has only sold to a few dozen people, he has 555 unique feedback comments. Its hard to pull a fast one on that many people.


Also, he is selling alot of sealed games outside ebay and just ending his auction's early.

Well that's just plain foolish for the buyers to agree to. Why would anyone in their right mind pay a complete stranger hundreds of dollars for an item without any record of the transaction?


You sound pretty law obeyant then, so if there is a time at a stop sign where you don't fully stop, do you go to the police station right then and there and turn yourself in?


You're confusing our roles, I'm not the one playing judge, jury and executioners here, that's you guys. And for the record, I routinely roll through stop signs if there's no one coming from the other direction. But something tells me that many here are the type who stand on the side of the road writing down license plate numbers and mail them to the motor vehicle dept


I hope you are emailing vididiots then every chance you get with" Waaa, AGAINST EBAY RULES , the waaa and cry some more.

No, I'm not. Again, it's none of my business. I've said this before.

Don't get me wrong, I've never defended this guy and what you guys claim he's doing. I just don't agree with the way that people here have decided to take the matter into their own hands. There seems to be a trend in this forum where people follow eBay's rules when it's to their own benefit but completely ignore them when it's not. How many times have we seen someone here bid on an auction with a bullshit eBay account just to fuck with a seller they didn't agree with? I've personally seen it numberous times and each time it happen here this vigilante is usually applauded by others in the forum. But God forbid someone bid on one of your auctions and provide anything other than a perfect transaction. It's called being hypocritical and it's why I seem to be bitter and bitch a lot here.

[ryborg]

So you're saying that all of his buyers "don't know shit" about something that they're willing to blindly pay hundreds of dollars for? Sorry, I don't buy it.

Yes. Actually they do. Every mainstream hobby (video games, rare DVDs, sports jerseys, vintage clothing, etc. etc.) has scam-artist sellers like this, and there are always thousands of buyers who eat it right up unknowingly.

One out of a million possible examples: THIS LOSER (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwideworldsportsQQhtZ-1). Every single item that this guy sells is 100% fake. Anyone with any knowledge whatsoever of jerseys knows this. Still, he has 99.7+% feedback, with only ONE neg for selling fake merch. Once football season starts in August, this stuff will be selling for $100-200. And people love it.

The simple fact is that many buyers ARE ignorant and very foolish with their money. Unfortunately, not everyone is a collector/expert with their hobby.
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[Buyatari]

Can we do a cut and paste with the thread here. Start a new thread with just the basic information.

1. Where people can go to report this and what needs to be reported

2. The people we can contact and what they have had to say.

3. Any new information that helps reach a resolution.

The rest you can lump into a thread for those who want to argue about ebay rules.

Griking please stay out of the new thread.

Griking your points are noted and taken under consideration however please understand that many of us feel very strongly about this. I know you don't feel as strong for his defense as we do for his eBay banishment.

If you don't sit this one out you are just going to get trampled because many of us are pretty fucking pissed right now. We don't want to spend time arguing with you because its counterproductive. We have a thief to string up.

[kevin_psx]

How many times have we seen someone here bid on an auction with a bullshit eBay account just to fuck with a seller they didn't agree with? I've personally seen it numberous times and each time it happen here this vigilante is usually applauded by others in the forum.

That is bogus. Someone won my auction & wrote "I hate you" & never paid. Ass.

Ruined my auction.

Collecting evidence and forwarding it to the FBI is the proper response. We detect. They investigate & prosecute.

[NintendoMan]

So you're saying that all of his buyers "don't know shit" about something that they're willing to blindly pay hundreds of dollars for? Sorry, I don't buy it. When a person is going to spend that kind of money they need to do their research. I think you're stretching it a bit here looking for a reason to justify his good feedback rating. Besides, it's not like this guy has only sold to a few dozen people, he has 555 unique feedback comments. Its hard to pull a fast one on that many people.


Also, he is selling alot of sealed games outside ebay and just ending his auction's early.

Well that's just plain foolish for the buyers to agree to. Why would anyone in their right mind pay a complete stranger hundreds of dollars for an item without any record of the transaction?



Yes he definately has alot of feedback but that's because out of the hundreds of items he might sell in a certain period, he probably only has like 5-10 sealed games. And YES YES YES, the people buying have NO CLUE what a sealed game really looks like. Have you noticed any of the people's feedback buying those "sealed" games? There mostly in the lower 10's and 20's.

BUT, there are people that have bought that have feedback in the 400's, but guess what, they said they just started collecting so really have no clue. So they have no clue what they are buying really, and you know what, you should be able to trust someone with almost perfect feecback that's a powerseller at that! But on this occasion, you sure as hell can't.
So you just have to remember that most of his feedback came from other items, not sealed games.

And your right, it is foolish to buy anything "OFF" ebay. WIth the exception of people I know, people on here, or someone I really like that I have purchased from before, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I would blindly send someone hundreds of bucks. I used to but know it would eventually catch up to me. People pay me "blindly" like that, but I come through EVERY TIME! Some people don't unfortunately.

[Darth Sensei]

How many times have we seen someone here bid on an auction with a bullshit eBay account just to fuck with a seller they didn't agree with? I've personally seen it numberous times and each time it happen here this vigilante is usually applauded by others in the forum.

That is bogus. Someone won my auction & wrote "I hate you" & never paid. Ass.

Ruined my auction.

Collecting evidence and forwarding it to the FBI is the proper response. We detect. They investigate & prosecute.

Sorry, I was crabby that day. :D

[MachineGex]

Griking said:

There seems to be a trend in this forum where people follow eBay's rules when it's to their own benefit but completely ignore them when it's not.... It's called being hypocritical and it's why I seem to be bitter and bitch a lot here.

There is a huge difference between what Vidiots is doing and what some of the people trying to stop him are doing. Vidiots is breaking the law. Simple as that. He admitted it. Those are facts. The people trying to get him to stop have not broken any law. They may have violated ebay's rules, but last time I checked, ebay doesn't make the laws. If someone was breaking the law, then it would be hypocritical.

Big difference between breaking an ebay rule and breaking the law.

[kainemaxwell]

And notice that vididiots hides all his buyers ids so he can keep his "selling practices" to himself.

[Buyatari]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614131794

He is quicky going to learn that I am not someone he needs to piss off.

[Buyatari]

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[Darren870]

Adam: Can you edit your link so it doesn't screw up everyones page, thanks for posting it i just reported him.

I also wrote ebay a nice letter today.

Here is the # to his local police department:

(856) 468-0600

Full name: Nick Morgan

He works in:

Liscio's Bakery and Deli
Crosskeys, New Jersey US

and goes to school at

Camden County College
Blackwood,New Jersey

I hope some people call.

[Darth Sensei]

While I do agree that this guy is scum and deserves a life of bad karma for his stealing, I don't think this site really wants the liability of having this guy's information plainly displayed for all and the subsequent harassment that is likely to ensue.

[Darren870]

his myspace account was already linked here. All the college info and where he works was just taken from there.

He put it there, I just coppied and paste

[NintendoMan]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614131794

He is quicky going to learn that I am not someone he needs to piss off.

Same thing happened to me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262622729&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262625158&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8263754326&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262484539&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8264331482&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT

[Griking]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614131794

He is quicky going to learn that I am not someone he needs to piss off.

Same thing happened to me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262622729&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262625158&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8263754326&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8262484539&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8264331482&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT


I'm sorry that this shit is happening to you guys. There's really no excuse for it when anyone does stupid shit like that.